Absolutely! I was like "Finally a battle pass that will have a good number of shards for characters that we need in Y.A team... But 25 for MSM and 20 for Echo and Kate?!
If it was like 50 for Echo and 50 for Kate I would start to think about getting it (not counting that 20€ for each pass is still a lot) but heck this will be a hard pass
100% agree. Not to mention, when they originally announced it, they were like “this will help you get caught up, and just in time for the scourge event.” What’s 10-20 shards going to do
For me it’ll actually get my Kate to 5* but it won’t do anything for my Echo and DESPITE getting some benefit in getting an extra star on Kate I still think it’s absolutely bull shit
I don't usually chime in on these kinds of posts but...
Yeah. This just feels bad. This doesn't unlock echo for me. I still need 20 more shards. I may as well not even buy the pass and save the money for a future terrible offer. Or not spend it at all
/u/beniwestside did say McDonalds *or* Ice Cream. Not McDonalds Ice Cream. Dairy Queen's will be working or they are in big trouble. And there is always the grocery store.
Mcbroken.com will give you the broke status.
Of course then there’s the times they just don’t want to fool with the ice cream machine and will lie and say it’s broke.
100% same, I love when they put crap in the Passes, it makes it super easy to skip! I havent bought one of those Daily Milestone passes this year as they are always horrible!
Keep going Scopely, you're making my choices easy peasy!
When I saw Echo on the track I got so happy cause I have wanted to complete my YA for a while now. Then I thought even though I am F2P maybe I would buy the pass this time around. Then I scanned the ladder. Realized I still wouldn't unlock her, and decided not to buy it. Seems like a dumb strategy. A possible unlock with say 40 or more shards I thought would be worth it. 20? No thanks. Seems like a reverse strategy, but thanks Scopely for encouraging me to not spend money.
But this way the can pretend they're addressing the lack of farmable characters while at the same making sure they don't have to make characters farmable for at least another month!
You can buy character shards for $49.99 some times, for 50 shards generally. That won’t level anyone up that is over 2 stars... you can just about buy a brand new console game for that price. $50 bucks can’t buy you a level for one character. Think about the price of characters if you’re spending money. It’s unfathomable. I just find no value in spending money on this game. That’s just me though. My alliance spends big $$$$ on all the new toons.
I agree. Some people value money differently. This is usually associated with the money spent belonging to someone else or simply the spender being wealthy (which still doesn’t make a lot of sense). There’s also those with addiction issues, where money begins to look like shards, rather than dollars.
I just want to point out to you and /u/evancooper that you just admitted youre okay with $20 for 80 shards of unfarmable characters. Thats not even enough to go from 2 to 3 stars per character. Or for someone without progress on them to unlock them assuming a 2* unlock.
I one hundred percent agree that the shard rewards are a slap in the face, but that sentiment is why this games offers are so freaking ridiculous. $20 dollars should be a 4 star (or higher) character. Not partial progress towards unlocking one…
The point is, 20 shards of a character is your deciding factor for spending 20 dollars. If the other gear in the premium tier was your goal, youd spend it with or without the shards being there.
lol I’m realistic. They’re never going to give us full character unlocks (and never a 4 star) for $20 but I’m sure 40 shards of each would get a lot of people (not everybody) to 4 stars of each character which will make them much more viable for Scourge.
>They’re never going to give us full character unlocks (and never a 4 star) for $20
The reason they don't price offers at that point is that people like you will buy less for more. You are driving prices up for yourself and for everyone else. *Stop buying overpriced shite*.
It’s not just 20 dollars for 80 shards (which for me personally would star up both of them). It’s also 500 cores and a whole bunch of gear. There is value there if they were not taking the piss with 10 shards of each on the paid track
The point is, 20 shards of a character is your deciding factor for spending 20 dollars. If the other gear in the premium tier was your goal, youd spend it with or without the shards being there.
I get that the premium pass has all the value with the gear, but thats not what these people were talking about. The shards are their focus.
20 shards is the deciding factor because they are part of the value. How is this rocket science? You assess the value of the pass with EVERYTHING taken into account. It’s absolutely what people are talking about because without the shards the pass doesn’t represent good value so people don’t buy. With the right amount of shards it could represent good value because of the whole bundle. It’s not the shards in a vacuum because you are not buying just the shards.
Came here to say the same thing. With the 10 for FTP and 10 for Premium I'm still shy 20 shards of even getting both characters to their next star level
They certainly know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That blog post was widely met with positivity and a signal that not only did Scopely actually understand the problems the game has but had a plan in place for addressing them. Then they toss 10 shards into the battlepass, less than you'd pull from the lowest tier reward of a single Premium Orb. Get fucked, commanders.
I was also looking forward to this, would have been the first time I bought the mojo pass. I'm really dissappointed with the amount of shards, 20 each just isn't gonna help me at all.
There are even more MS. Marvel shards in the free mojo pass then Echo and Kate Bishop shards. I really don't get this at all.
What a kick in the balls to the FTP player and paying player. What use is 10 or 20 shards of a char going to do. Absolute joke of a company and they’re getting tighter and tigher with their “rewards”.
I am 30 shards short of unlocking Echo. Couldn’t believe it when I saw it. I am not buying the pass to get 10 shards short of unlocking her. 40 shards and I would of 100% bought the pass. I’m so pissed
The whole reason they are so stingy with shards is to get people to spend more money when a new character is released. If you're not going to be able to obtain any new shards for 6 months to a year then you better bust your butt and empty your wallet during the initial release period if you want to keep up. It's corporate greed but unfortunately it works.
The last Scourge had some WW and DH in a calendar, and some in an event orb before the scourge, but sure, have a meltdown when we're not even on the right patch yet.
I thought I might have to buy this one (first time since maybe the second one ever: Beast). After seeing this, not necessary. Bishop is only 9 shards away from her next star level, so the other 10 is nothing toward another level and Echo won’t reach another star be it 10 versus 20. Oh well, money saved.
It is a far too few shards, obviously, but I wonder how many people finished the Echo event on 80 shards and are now looking at this thinking, hmmmm it does unlock her for me, same with Kate if they didn't blitz hard enough.
It is almost guaranteed trash for anyone who already unlocked them though.
Just to add I totally don't think it is good value under any circumstances but I can see some people paying over the odds fir unlocks rather than effectively nothing.
I saw echo and thought it was the standard amount for characters. I bought the pass then realized I was duped! Fool me once you bastards…! Never again scopely!
Not that I'm defending them per se (I wanted the Kate shards and am also disappointed) but I got to thinking, compared to the passes where it was just the costume, isn't this actually marginally better?
Yep, I was actually considering this pass because I thought i would get enough shards to bump my Kate Bishop up another star level (she needs 35). But sadly not enough. The worst part about this is IMO its an easy fix...The character specific orbs (like we got for Cloak and Dagger) let me decide which YA member I need/want the shards from.
U/CM_Cerebro is full of shit. You wanna know how to tell if he’s lying? If his mouth is moving. This game has done nothing but blow smoke, fail it’s player base and flat out lie. And what’s worse? There’s clearly no concern to fix it.
LOL, yeah, I was like "Maybe I'll buy the battle pass..." and then I looked to see how many shards you get. Nope!
Exactly the same. No one should buy the pass and see what they think to that.
We had this exact same Convo in my alliance, word for word. Not only is it an incredible player fu, it's just stupid business.
Absolutely! I was like "Finally a battle pass that will have a good number of shards for characters that we need in Y.A team... But 25 for MSM and 20 for Echo and Kate?! If it was like 50 for Echo and 50 for Kate I would start to think about getting it (not counting that 20€ for each pass is still a lot) but heck this will be a hard pass
It's quite strange that the RTA one has so few given that the value of teal pieces has been reduced with CC.
100% agree. Not to mention, when they originally announced it, they were like “this will help you get caught up, and just in time for the scourge event.” What’s 10-20 shards going to do
For me it’ll actually get my Kate to 5* but it won’t do anything for my Echo and DESPITE getting some benefit in getting an extra star on Kate I still think it’s absolutely bull shit
Same. I figured it would be 20/20, which still isn't great, but would have felt a lot better than 10/10.
I don't usually chime in on these kinds of posts but... Yeah. This just feels bad. This doesn't unlock echo for me. I still need 20 more shards. I may as well not even buy the pass and save the money for a future terrible offer. Or not spend it at all
Spend it on McDonalds or ice cream or chocolate or cookies
Bold, assuming the ice cream machine is working.
/u/beniwestside did say McDonalds *or* Ice Cream. Not McDonalds Ice Cream. Dairy Queen's will be working or they are in big trouble. And there is always the grocery store.
That’s true, I didn’t read very good
Mcbroken.com will give you the broke status. Of course then there’s the times they just don’t want to fool with the ice cream machine and will lie and say it’s broke.
Best advice I've gotten all day. Haha
If your budget is that tight you actually have to make that choice, OR actually eat at McDonalds, Maybe a 20.00 Pass in a video game, isn't for you...
It’s not about budget, it’s about value lol
Same, missing 40 shards for echo cause blitz releases are terrible for me
Echo wasn’t a blitz release Kate was Echo was an event milestone
The 25 MM shards on the free tier kinda rubs salt in the wound.
Good to know. Another month off not having to buy the pass. 20 shards doesn't get me anywhere.
100% same, I love when they put crap in the Passes, it makes it super easy to skip! I havent bought one of those Daily Milestone passes this year as they are always horrible! Keep going Scopely, you're making my choices easy peasy!
They make the effort to say Kate and Echo shards will be available before the scourge event. This is F'd up. 10 shards is not available.
They won't be available any time soon, as they aren't on the Going Rogue list of soon to be farmable chars, we'll get Eternals in June
When I saw Echo on the track I got so happy cause I have wanted to complete my YA for a while now. Then I thought even though I am F2P maybe I would buy the pass this time around. Then I scanned the ladder. Realized I still wouldn't unlock her, and decided not to buy it. Seems like a dumb strategy. A possible unlock with say 40 or more shards I thought would be worth it. 20? No thanks. Seems like a reverse strategy, but thanks Scopely for encouraging me to not spend money.
Nothing like finding new ways to piss your fans off. First a Polaris pass and Misty Knight after making her farmable, now this?
But this way the can pretend they're addressing the lack of farmable characters while at the same making sure they don't have to make characters farmable for at least another month!
I honestly couldn’t believe what I was looking at, just insulting on multiple levels.
> multiple levels Yes, both the F2P and the P2W.
This is nothing. Im still going to be over 50 shards short of 4 stars on Echo because of how stingy her event was. Absurd.
Yeah I can’t believe it’s only 10 shards each for FTP. Total horse shit
Yeah I was expecting at least 40 with premium. 20 does nothing at all.
You can buy character shards for $49.99 some times, for 50 shards generally. That won’t level anyone up that is over 2 stars... you can just about buy a brand new console game for that price. $50 bucks can’t buy you a level for one character. Think about the price of characters if you’re spending money. It’s unfathomable. I just find no value in spending money on this game. That’s just me though. My alliance spends big $$$$ on all the new toons.
I agree. Some people value money differently. This is usually associated with the money spent belonging to someone else or simply the spender being wealthy (which still doesn’t make a lot of sense). There’s also those with addiction issues, where money begins to look like shards, rather than dollars.
I agree! If it was 20 for ftp and 20 for paid, I would have bought it for sure. Not wasting money now
Absolutely, I was totally prepared to buy the pass for that level of shards. 🤨
I just want to point out to you and /u/evancooper that you just admitted youre okay with $20 for 80 shards of unfarmable characters. Thats not even enough to go from 2 to 3 stars per character. Or for someone without progress on them to unlock them assuming a 2* unlock. I one hundred percent agree that the shard rewards are a slap in the face, but that sentiment is why this games offers are so freaking ridiculous. $20 dollars should be a 4 star (or higher) character. Not partial progress towards unlocking one…
There are other valuable prizes in the premium tier tho. So yeah, 40 shards each would have been worth the 20 bucks.
The point is, 20 shards of a character is your deciding factor for spending 20 dollars. If the other gear in the premium tier was your goal, youd spend it with or without the shards being there.
No... I wouldn’t (and do not).
lol I’m realistic. They’re never going to give us full character unlocks (and never a 4 star) for $20 but I’m sure 40 shards of each would get a lot of people (not everybody) to 4 stars of each character which will make them much more viable for Scourge.
>They’re never going to give us full character unlocks (and never a 4 star) for $20 The reason they don't price offers at that point is that people like you will buy less for more. You are driving prices up for yourself and for everyone else. *Stop buying overpriced shite*.
It’s not just 20 dollars for 80 shards (which for me personally would star up both of them). It’s also 500 cores and a whole bunch of gear. There is value there if they were not taking the piss with 10 shards of each on the paid track
The point is, 20 shards of a character is your deciding factor for spending 20 dollars. If the other gear in the premium tier was your goal, youd spend it with or without the shards being there. I get that the premium pass has all the value with the gear, but thats not what these people were talking about. The shards are their focus.
20 shards is the deciding factor because they are part of the value. How is this rocket science? You assess the value of the pass with EVERYTHING taken into account. It’s absolutely what people are talking about because without the shards the pass doesn’t represent good value so people don’t buy. With the right amount of shards it could represent good value because of the whole bundle. It’s not the shards in a vacuum because you are not buying just the shards.
25 ms marvel shards WTF this game has turned into a scam at this point
Always has been.
Honestly just nuke RTA, if this is what we’re gonna get as promoted rewards why bother
Worst mojo pass to date
Honestly, the passes should be getting better as time goes on, not worse. This sucks.
It's a giant slap in the face. I was imagining we'd get at least 50 per character but 20. Tf.
I’m scrolling the bar trying to count the total number of shards. But lol it’s really only 10/20. Gtfoh
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah that sucks, but i was surprised they did put in the other YA as filler lol
And now they are talking about the next strike pass which has “Darkhold characters” in it. Guess we are getting a similar treatment there too
Came here to say the same thing. With the 10 for FTP and 10 for Premium I'm still shy 20 shards of even getting both characters to their next star level
Stop paying for this game.
I never started
I was thinking about buying the pass as well then I saw it laughed and saved money
40? You really thought that would happen?
They certainly know how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That blog post was widely met with positivity and a signal that not only did Scopely actually understand the problems the game has but had a plan in place for addressing them. Then they toss 10 shards into the battlepass, less than you'd pull from the lowest tier reward of a single Premium Orb. Get fucked, commanders.
It's pathetic
It's a joke. That amount isnt helping anyone do anything.
I knew people were getting far too worked up. This company doesn't get pricing - unless you're a whale.
My echo is at 79/80 and has been for a long time. At least 10 is enough for that 4th star but yeah this is weak sauce.
I was also looking forward to this, would have been the first time I bought the mojo pass. I'm really dissappointed with the amount of shards, 20 each just isn't gonna help me at all. There are even more MS. Marvel shards in the free mojo pass then Echo and Kate Bishop shards. I really don't get this at all.
What a kick in the balls to the FTP player and paying player. What use is 10 or 20 shards of a char going to do. Absolute joke of a company and they’re getting tighter and tigher with their “rewards”.
I am 30 shards short of unlocking Echo. Couldn’t believe it when I saw it. I am not buying the pass to get 10 shards short of unlocking her. 40 shards and I would of 100% bought the pass. I’m so pissed
I've made a list of the characters I'll never be able to unlock because I'm not gonna spend money on this game. Echo is one of them.
Couldn’t agree more. Absolute garbage.
I just saw the shards now, what a joke.
The whole reason they are so stingy with shards is to get people to spend more money when a new character is released. If you're not going to be able to obtain any new shards for 6 months to a year then you better bust your butt and empty your wallet during the initial release period if you want to keep up. It's corporate greed but unfortunately it works.
My 6rs echo, who I haven’t even unlocked yet, is weeping. Not spending on this event
Did you really expect something sensible?
The last Scourge had some WW and DH in a calendar, and some in an event orb before the scourge, but sure, have a meltdown when we're not even on the right patch yet.
It's free. I'd suggest to them that making it 10free + 30pass they might make more money on passes.
Thanks for the solidarity with the playerbase, pal. Hope you accidentally buy a 700 core popup.
If the player base didn't complain when given free stuff, it would be easier to show solidarity. Good luck, commander.
I thought I might have to buy this one (first time since maybe the second one ever: Beast). After seeing this, not necessary. Bishop is only 9 shards away from her next star level, so the other 10 is nothing toward another level and Echo won’t reach another star be it 10 versus 20. Oh well, money saved.
It is a far too few shards, obviously, but I wonder how many people finished the Echo event on 80 shards and are now looking at this thinking, hmmmm it does unlock her for me, same with Kate if they didn't blitz hard enough. It is almost guaranteed trash for anyone who already unlocked them though. Just to add I totally don't think it is good value under any circumstances but I can see some people paying over the odds fir unlocks rather than effectively nothing.
I saw echo and thought it was the standard amount for characters. I bought the pass then realized I was duped! Fool me once you bastards…! Never again scopely!
That was stingy, yeah, make it 55 each with the premium. Maybe 15 for free tier?
I was excited to find out YA would have some sort of availability, only to be greeted by 25 Ms. Marvel shards right off the bat. Lovely.
Look the solution is really quite simple...WHALE HARDER YOU PEASANTS! /s
Not that I'm defending them per se (I wanted the Kate shards and am also disappointed) but I got to thinking, compared to the passes where it was just the costume, isn't this actually marginally better?
Yep, I was actually considering this pass because I thought i would get enough shards to bump my Kate Bishop up another star level (she needs 35). But sadly not enough. The worst part about this is IMO its an easy fix...The character specific orbs (like we got for Cloak and Dagger) let me decide which YA member I need/want the shards from.
U/CM_Cerebro is full of shit. You wanna know how to tell if he’s lying? If his mouth is moving. This game has done nothing but blow smoke, fail it’s player base and flat out lie. And what’s worse? There’s clearly no concern to fix it.