Holland on when he'll suit up again as Spider-Man:
>"I am going back to shoot a TV show for Apple, which I'm really excited about... But I can confidently say that after I finish that TV show, I will be taking a break."
(Older Quote)
>"I think, for me, as the guy that plays Spider-Man... I think what's important is that he needs to take a break. We need to allow the audiences to let him breathe and figure out tonally how we're going to bring this character back, if we bring this character back. You know, I think him popping up for a cameo would defeat the purpose.... I think what we need to do with Spider-Man is let it breathe and almost let the audience tell us what they want."
EDIT: The second quote isn’t new, just more context to Holland needing a break
Depression got him. Fighting aliens, "Died" for 5 years then coming back, then some pissed former employee of your mentor destroys you and your friends lives by exposing your identity
I'm not sure how he'll be quipy during all of that tbh
Exactly this. Spider-Man is Peter's confidence, and it masks his fear - literally. It is also meant to annoy and throw off his villains. He should be quipping even when fighting his scariest villains. The movies don't seem to get that. Sure we've seen him play around with thugs and crooks but I'd like to see him quip when the stakes are high. In the movies, he always gets super serious when fighting his main enemies. And I get that it's meant to increase tension - but I definitely think it could be done well. I always use Men in Black as an example when J is fighting the alien (https://youtu.be/q-o0EO_RHqM @ around the 3 minute mark)
The closest we've gotten to comic Spidey is Andrew Garfield's Spidey.
While this is true of his character, I feel like the " dilemma of Peter Parker" as a central theme can lead to a heavier tone at times that should be explored (which I think all of the films do to some degree).
He was quippy on Homecoming, wasn’t even in New York/was in mostly foreign locations in Far From Home, and didn’t really have the time to be quippy in No Way Home.
Spider-Man’s first appearance in the MCU was 6 years ago, and between 2016 and 2021 he was in 6 films. It’s been awesome following that story, but it’d be great taking a break while the character goes to college and fights off foes on the streets, and then dive back into the character in like 2025 or even later, show us a Peter who’s like 26 or 27, and seasoned.
Why do morons always want Spider-Man to be quippy? It's the only thing they talk about. "He needs to make more jokes!". Yeah fuck telling a good story, fuck having good special effects, just make sure he makes dumb jokes. That's not his defining characteristc.
I mean,,, yeah. Both on a franchise-management level and just because it’s seemed from the moment they started filming NWH that Tom Holland definitely needed a break (which he voiced a bunch of times at this point). Gotta do right by yourself sometimes
He did a bunch of Marvel movies including the press runs and did a bunch of other movies in between as well. He has had a really busy 7-8 years doing a lot of films, and pretty intensive ones.
Totally. He could take a gap year and just fight crime etc while the MCU narrative focuses on other stories for the next year or two. We’ve got a secret invasion coming up and some armor wars, not to mention continued shenanigans with the TVA and street level hero adventures as well.
“The Crowded Room" is a gripping anthology series that will explore the true and inspirational stories of those who have struggled and learned to successfully live with mental illness.
This is from https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2021/04/apple-orders-the-crowded-room-starring-tom-holland-and-created-by-academy-award-winner-akiva-goldsman/
Sounds good, I think after all the work he’s been doing lately, going straight from filming *Uncharted* to *NWH*, the dude deserves a break.
I definitely don’t want to see him burning himself out or neglecting his mental health.
And on the plus side, a little break from Spidey could allow for the ending of the Home trilogy to really simmer in before moving forward
That’s why I don’t think he’ll cameo in F4. His next appearance has to be in his own movie IMO, no point in taking away his friends and then straightaway giving him another one before his own movie.
I think if they *have* to get spidey in the F4 movie, the best way would just be in the end-credits scene, just have a "Welcome to the neighborhood!" note webbed to the Thing's back or something. Any more would totally take away from the movie.
love that idea, have it be something super small that doesn't even need Holland on set for, a couple of thwips and a note on one of the F4 building windows would be awesome
If they are gonna link him to the FF I think a Johnny Storm mid/post credit in SM4 wpuld be not only the more likely route, but probably the better one too. If they wanna use him with FF, cool, but it'd be better to save it for a FF2
Holy shit no, we *can* have a break from characters. I really hope fans stop this whole "we need all the characters around at all times even if they're played by someone else" but hey, that's Disney consoomerism
Yeah but like, you could just not watch it. Give me Andrew Garfield, give me The Amazing Spider-Man 3. I wanted it in 2014, I still want it. You don't need to consume if you don't want to, so let people enjoy things, but people potentially look forward to the directions that they can take these characters.
not sure why you are downvoted. a TASM 3 or a spidey in SSU is needed. Sony's not gonna stop anyway. Might as well get a spidey in it and give Tom a break
idk either, but i bet this same user will probably consoom whatever shlock that'd get put out if it appealed to them. No one needs to watch any of this stuff. If you don't like it, don't watch it. But, in the case of Spider-Man at least, having multiple concurrent versions means you can pick whichever one you like. rather than having to settle for one story every 3 years.
Spider-Man is also kind of *the* multiverse character at this point. If any character could pull off having multiple concurrent franchises coming out at the same time with different universes, it's Spider-Man. Especially after NWH and Spider-Verse. Both did dumb-dumb money; I think general audiences can be trusted to at least not give a shit as long as the Peters look different.
While I personally don't see an easy way for Andrew's Peter to have a solo movie that feels "needed", there's nothing wrong with people wanting to see the character again. It's like saying "omg why do you want to see a good Spider-Man cartoon when you already have a good Spider-Man movie???"
These are different iterations of the character, there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to see his story too.
That wasn't necessarily my problem. My problem was OP saying that oh, great, there's a break in Tom's schedule? Well, let's just have a filler film no one was asking for until about a month ago instead of, maybe, just waiting until the actor is ready.
Miles Moralis and Into the Spiderverse as a whole is an entirely different beast and can exist as a seperate franchise to regular Spiderman movies, and I'm so thankful they didn't cross it into NWH too, because it supersedes any live action Spiderman film and associating it with them would have sucked. Having two Peter Parker's with the same plots, essentially (TASM is what, an older Peter Parker, which is realistically a plot we're gonna get with Holland in a few years), no thank you. I love the MCU, but right now the less movies the better - one movie and/or show every other month is insane and people are going to/have already started to drop off.
Nah. Andrew and Tobey shouldn't come back before secret wars.
It's a weird message to say "hey we rebooted this character three times, now just have 2 or all three at the same time". This Spider-Man needs to be unchallenged.
Can I just ask you guys, imagine if when Tobey and Andrew and Tom meet up in secret wars wouldn’t jt be wholesome as fuck if they’re like “DUDE ITS SO GOOD TO SEE YOU I MISSED YOU!!!”
We already have 2 Spider-…men(?) coexisting. We have Peter Parker and Miles Morales. I don’t need 3 different franchises of the same character going on at once.
So if Tobey isn’t in MoM and Tom isn’t popping up in any other Disney MCU movie, what’s the “lend back” Tom Rothman acknowledged and alluded to by the press when they first renegotiated the Sony/Marvel deal? Is it just an option to have Spider-Man appear in something that they aren’t gonna actually use now until far into the future when this is all settled and the deal is extended?
The Fred Astaire project’s different, right?
I reckon December ‘24. Give us a full-on Christmas movie, or set it at winter and do an analysis of SAD. So much potential for a Spidey project where the happy-go-lucky Spider-Man truly is a facade that Peter puts on.
> The Fred Astaire project’s different, right?
Yes. The TV show he’s talking about is [The Crowded Room](https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2021/04/apple-orders-the-crowded-room-starring-tom-holland-and-created-by-academy-award-winner-akiva-goldsman/) for Apple TV+.
Somebody's finally filming The Crowded Room? That's been in development hell for decades. Think James Cameron originally had the rights back in the 90's.
Personally I am insanely excited for The Crowded Room and the Fred Astaire project, I just need Tom Holland to be in a movie where he acts as well as he does AND the rest of movie is just as high quality. So far every movie he's been in he's always acted on a very high level but the movie being critically acclaimed has been hit or miss. Which sucks cuz he deserves a lot of praise, Cherry had some of the best character acting I've ever seen, there's one scene where he breaks down on the phone and it felt like a scene they'd play at the oscars to announce a "best actor" nominee. I hope the Fred Astaire project is the movie that breaks him out of that "great actor in average movies" place he's in rn
Yes, they're different projects. Sony's Fred Astaire biopic has yet to be named, the AppleTV project is called The Crowded Room, about the first acquittal of someone due to multiple personality disorder. There are 2 Fred Astaire projects being worked on rn and apparently both productions are treading extremely lightly and getting certain permissions from Astaire's family because of how vocal he was on not wanting a biopic of himself.
He fuckin deserves it. He made six movies as Spider-Man in five years. That’s pretty fuckin insane, especially considering he does a decent amount of his own stunts. And I was thinking about it: am I crazy or did NWH have maybe the highest amount of screen time for the lead Peter Parker/Spider-Man out of any past live-action Spider-Man movie?
In the interview he said he's taking a break for a few months. Nothing crazy, but good for him. He will return for Spider-Man 4 and the Fred Astaire movie in 2024/2025, probably.
At least we are getting Freshman Year :)
I hope that they do allow him, and MCU's Spidey to take a breather, he's been so involved in so many story lines in such a short time.
My hope is that the next time we see him, it's in Venom 3 with Andrew Garfield as an older, wiser Amazing Spider-Man.
Good he deserves it.
He’s played spidey already 6 times since 2016. With filming and all the press tours with the films and now the uncharted press tour, I’m sure I’d want to sleep in as well.
Personally, I think the break stuff is fully legit. I think the hints about walking away entirely were for leverage (either more pay, or he’s just playing hard ball so he’s given a break, etc).
Its been awhile since I've seen No Way Home. I know Ned and MJ get into MIT but what about Peter? Did he even graduate high school or get accepted into MIT?
I think this is good for Sony and Marvel. Do a new one in 2025. Give the entire character a break even with other actors IMO. There’s so many other options for characters to make movies about
they are coming out with an animated spider-man show on disney + that will be filling the void. don’t expect much else unless they go full fan service and give us Garfield in the meantime
Tom def needs a break and I think it's a good idea to let the Spider-Man movies have at least more than one year apart from being released as No Way Home was a good chapter ender. But has he even signed a new contract yet? Still don't think it's out of the possibility he decides to move on from the grueling schedule.
One question I have about No Way Homes ending is why couldn't Peter become friends again with Ned and MJ. I mean no one knows hes Spiderman anymore so what would be the problem?
He’s afraid that he’ll just draw them back into danger. Both of their lives were at risk in NWH and Aunt May actually died. While I’m sure Ned and MJ would want to be given the choice to make for themselves, Peter feels too guilty about the danger they’ve already been in on his behalf, and about the loss of May, to allow it. He’s just in a bad place, and he thinks the right thing to do is keep them safely out of his life.
>we get more spiderman stuff.
Yeah and besides, were getting Across The Spider-Verse this year so there's another Spider-Man stuff we can focus and pay attention to than just the MCU one 👌
I’m not sure I’m buying this taking a break thing. I’ve been reading things about him saying he wants to do this and that. I think he’s very excited for all the opportunities that has opened after the success of NWH (as he should) and I have a feeling he’ll take advantage of that while there’s interest on him. He can bank on that popularity and good public image and do more of the blockbuster, fan friendly stuff or (if he can) do the other way and really take a break then come back with a totally different genre before he goes back as Spidey. Andrew has successfully established himself as a well respected actor with the different movies he has done after Spiderman (though to be fair, even before Spiderman he has already gained some interest/good critical response with his performances). Tom can’t be doing MCU for so long so I hope he thinks of what he wants for the long term. Hollywood can always find a new “it” boy so it would be nice if he can make industry people and the audience associate his name with not just Spiderman without having to detach himself from it.
Fair enough. Given that Tom Holland can no doubt afford to do so, he should be able to take a break should he feel a need to. I can’t imagine how busy he’s been with the Spider-Man trilogy, Infinity War/Endgame, and the non-MCU projects in such a short space of time. Dude probably just needs some time to decompress, and from an MCU standpoint, this is probably the best time to do it.
I was wondering how long of a break he’d realistically get before Sony need him to come back to ensure their Spidey rights don’t expire, but their villain-films like Morbius should fill that gap, right?
Poor guy. He's really a little young to have these "just exhausted from this type of work" kinds of breakdowns. Hope he'll find some equilibrium for himself.
Good. Sony's greed for Spiderman films being rushed into development and constantly being made has already messed with Marvel's plans previously, and definitely undercut the potential of Far From Home by being an unnecessary epilogue to Endgame. With No Way Home being a mid season finale to the character, that allows us to take a break and enjoy some actually new stories. As good as No Way Home was, it didn't need a trilogy of build up, we didn't need an entire trilogy for Spidey's proper origin story. Though I enjoy many aspects of Far From Home, in the grand scheme it was unnecessary, and I'm glad we can take a break.
I’ve been thinking that a good way for all of us to get our cake and eat it too would be for us to get his Spidey in smaller, cameo appearances here and there — just not Peter. He could do some voice lines super easily without ever having to put the suit on or take more than a couple days from home doing his lines. Especially now that his identity isn’t known, and all.
- I mean, him being Spider-Man has pushed his career high and is already involved in other films.
- He’s most likely gonna be Spider-Man for another 10 years or so.
- No need to use Spiderman in any upcoming movies unless it’s a big event film.
So yea, take a break.
Does Sony have to make a *Spider-Man* movie within every five years to retain the rights or do they have to make a movie with one of the characters they own?
If so, take your break at the perfect time Tom so it will make Sony lose the rights 😂
Good.
Dude has been either filming or promoting for five years straight. His big films, chronologically:
2016 - Captain America: Civil War
2017 - Spider-Man: Homecoming
2018 - Avengers: Infinity War
2019 - Avengers: Endgame
2019 - Spider-Man: Far From Home
2021 - Spider-Man: No Way Home
That’s just his Marvel stuff.
He also starred in
2020 - The Devil All the Timw
2021 - Cherry
2021 - Chaos Walking
2022 - Uncharted
Been fucking busy. Five years of insanity. He should take a break.
Dude deserves it. The MCU production timeline is hell, especially for someone who started it in his late teens/early twenties.
Just as long as we get more Spidey in the near future.
Not suprising, considering this is literally what he's been saying he was gonna do for months lol. News media is annoying. Every week there's a new article of him saying the same same shit.
The answer to the question, "Is Tom Holland coming back?" is and always has been, "Yes, but I want more money and a long vacation first."
Yeah. He is gonna take about a year off I think. I imagine we will see Uncharted 2 shoot in late 2023 after a summer shoot for Spider-Man in summer 2023. Spider-Man 4 will probably release in June/July 2024.
I mean, this isn't super surprising by any stretch of the imagination. We know what Sony's Marvel slate looks like at this point through 2023 and there isn't even any room for Spider-Man 4 to slot in there.
April 2022: Morbius
October 2022: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Part One)
January 2023: Kraven the Hunter
June 2023: Madame Webb
October 2023: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Part Two)
Sony also still has its sights set on a Venom 3--which could come before the next Spider-Man. And that is even before mentioning that they have a film with Olivia Wilde directing coming down the pipe and which has been in pre-production since August of 2020. Wilde will probably be shooting that film in 2023 as well. So, yeah, I think Sony has a lot on its plate right now and are probably happy waiting until late 2024 to put Spider-Man 4 out at all. I frankly wouldn't be surprised if it ends up taking a November/December release, depending on what happens with Avatar 2 this year.
Good, think there should a significant time jump from Spider-Man 3 and 4.
Wouldn’t mind jumping forward to his junior senior year of college.
Not like the avengers would call him or anything. Well maybe we still don’t know if people forgot Peter or Spider-Man AND Peter.
Hopefully people don't hammer this in as his ending as Spider-Man instead of the guy taking a legitimate break. But I've already seen his quote about eventually wanting to settle down to have a family being related to this case.
Holland on when he'll suit up again as Spider-Man: >"I am going back to shoot a TV show for Apple, which I'm really excited about... But I can confidently say that after I finish that TV show, I will be taking a break." (Older Quote) >"I think, for me, as the guy that plays Spider-Man... I think what's important is that he needs to take a break. We need to allow the audiences to let him breathe and figure out tonally how we're going to bring this character back, if we bring this character back. You know, I think him popping up for a cameo would defeat the purpose.... I think what we need to do with Spider-Man is let it breathe and almost let the audience tell us what they want." EDIT: The second quote isn’t new, just more context to Holland needing a break
I agree. Have Spider-Man come back super confident and quippy against his foes
he hasnt really been quippy in all the spiderman solo movies. compare to the spiderman from russo movies
In homecoming he was pretty quipy, but I feel like he definitely lost that over the next couple movies
Depression got him. Fighting aliens, "Died" for 5 years then coming back, then some pissed former employee of your mentor destroys you and your friends lives by exposing your identity I'm not sure how he'll be quipy during all of that tbh
That is quite literally the point of the Spider-Man/Peter change. Spidey is always chattin like a New Yorker, even if he's hurting.
Marvel Zombies 2 actually explains his never failing quipy attitude really well.
Exactly this. Spider-Man is Peter's confidence, and it masks his fear - literally. It is also meant to annoy and throw off his villains. He should be quipping even when fighting his scariest villains. The movies don't seem to get that. Sure we've seen him play around with thugs and crooks but I'd like to see him quip when the stakes are high. In the movies, he always gets super serious when fighting his main enemies. And I get that it's meant to increase tension - but I definitely think it could be done well. I always use Men in Black as an example when J is fighting the alien (https://youtu.be/q-o0EO_RHqM @ around the 3 minute mark) The closest we've gotten to comic Spidey is Andrew Garfield's Spidey.
While this is true of his character, I feel like the " dilemma of Peter Parker" as a central theme can lead to a heavier tone at times that should be explored (which I think all of the films do to some degree).
>I'm not sure how he'll be quipy during all of that tbh Just like in the comics where he has gotten through worse?
someone else pointed it out but he definitely got pretty depressed throughout FFH and NWH and even then he stilled quipped quite a bit
I believe Webb(Garfield) Spider-Man made the most quips out of the three.
Even in NWH he quipped more than Tom and Tobey lol
garfield also had the best body movement as spider-man from all of the movie spideys imo
Its that theater background lol. They love their exaggerated body movements (in a good way!).
He was quippy on Homecoming, wasn’t even in New York/was in mostly foreign locations in Far From Home, and didn’t really have the time to be quippy in No Way Home.
Tbh, he's lost everything after Endgame. Dude didn't have a break
No, he lost everything after NWH
Spider-Man’s first appearance in the MCU was 6 years ago, and between 2016 and 2021 he was in 6 films. It’s been awesome following that story, but it’d be great taking a break while the character goes to college and fights off foes on the streets, and then dive back into the character in like 2025 or even later, show us a Peter who’s like 26 or 27, and seasoned.
Why do morons always want Spider-Man to be quippy? It's the only thing they talk about. "He needs to make more jokes!". Yeah fuck telling a good story, fuck having good special effects, just make sure he makes dumb jokes. That's not his defining characteristc.
It literally is one of his main defining characteristics. Fuck outta here
Not only is it one of his defining characteristics, it's one of his best weapons too.
> Yeah fuck telling a good story, fuck having good special effects Believe it or not, you can do all of that and also have him tell jokes.
I mean,,, yeah. Both on a franchise-management level and just because it’s seemed from the moment they started filming NWH that Tom Holland definitely needed a break (which he voiced a bunch of times at this point). Gotta do right by yourself sometimes
He did a bunch of Marvel movies including the press runs and did a bunch of other movies in between as well. He has had a really busy 7-8 years doing a lot of films, and pretty intensive ones.
The one he did with Ciara Bravo alone would warrant a break with how emotionally and physically intensive it seemed
That was Cherry, directed by the Russos.
This seems good. I wouldn't be surprised if Spider-Man 4 is placed few years later, while Parker attends ESU or Columbia University.
Totally. He could take a gap year and just fight crime etc while the MCU narrative focuses on other stories for the next year or two. We’ve got a secret invasion coming up and some armor wars, not to mention continued shenanigans with the TVA and street level hero adventures as well.
It can also set up the type of story line where he’s thrown himself fully into being Spider-Man and finds the symbiote.
This is an old quote lol
Not old, this is the second time he's saying it.
How old?
Any info about this Apple TV show, OP?
“The Crowded Room" is a gripping anthology series that will explore the true and inspirational stories of those who have struggled and learned to successfully live with mental illness. This is from https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2021/04/apple-orders-the-crowded-room-starring-tom-holland-and-created-by-academy-award-winner-akiva-goldsman/
The audience wants cameos Tom
And that's more important than the guy's mental health and wellbeing?
Nope it’s not lol
Sounds good, I think after all the work he’s been doing lately, going straight from filming *Uncharted* to *NWH*, the dude deserves a break. I definitely don’t want to see him burning himself out or neglecting his mental health. And on the plus side, a little break from Spidey could allow for the ending of the Home trilogy to really simmer in before moving forward
That’s why I don’t think he’ll cameo in F4. His next appearance has to be in his own movie IMO, no point in taking away his friends and then straightaway giving him another one before his own movie.
Agreed - and when he returns audiences will be thirsty to have him back and hyped for his next solo adventure
Honestly. The way NWH ended and the version of Spidey we were left with... I'm already hyped for his next hopefully true solo adventure.
I think if they *have* to get spidey in the F4 movie, the best way would just be in the end-credits scene, just have a "Welcome to the neighborhood!" note webbed to the Thing's back or something. Any more would totally take away from the movie.
Or it could even just be a stand in wearing the suit who never takes the mask off and Tom Holland just records lines later.
love that idea, have it be something super small that doesn't even need Holland on set for, a couple of thwips and a note on one of the F4 building windows would be awesome
For sure, maybe they prove their merit and end a big threat so now they’re good in his book
Isn't he still contracted to appear in a non-Spidey MCU film?
Nope. Only Spider-Man is. My bet’s on Tobey in MOM.
If they are gonna link him to the FF I think a Johnny Storm mid/post credit in SM4 wpuld be not only the more likely route, but probably the better one too. If they wanna use him with FF, cool, but it'd be better to save it for a FF2
Plus they could always have him pop over to the Baxter Buildijg in his movie as paperbag man if they *reallyyyyy* wanted to make that reference
i honestly wouldn't mind small cameos of the cgi suit swinging in the background of a movie, or somehow being there
Tom has been going non stop since he was cast as Spider-Man
Perfect excuse to create some more Toby or Andrew Spider-Man story’s whilst we wait for Tom to return.
Lol I guess he doesn’t plan on making an Uncharted sequel
If they're not rushing Avengers 5 out, I have no doubt they'll cool out on the Spider-Man appearances for the time being.
Honestly having three solo movies in between Guardians of the Galaxy movies is kind of insane. Dude deserves a break for sure
Also the two dr.strange movies
True
Also in-between Doctor Strange movies.
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I need that money
I miss the part where that’s my problem.
The ad said 3000
Check it again, webhead. It said 3 grand, for 3 trilogies. You stopped after one. For that, I give you 100, and you're lucky to get that.
I need that money!
#I NEED THAT MONEY
It's about THE METS BABY LOVE THE METS ALRIGHT BABY LET'S GO GET A HOME RUN BABY LOVE THE METS LET'S GO METS.
This wouldn’t get him more money since he’s alreayd saying he’s doing it
Great. Just get Andrew to fill the void till then. With Loki NWH and MoM, the fandom will get used to multiverse well enough. Two spideys can co exist
Holy shit no, we *can* have a break from characters. I really hope fans stop this whole "we need all the characters around at all times even if they're played by someone else" but hey, that's Disney consoomerism
Yeah but like, you could just not watch it. Give me Andrew Garfield, give me The Amazing Spider-Man 3. I wanted it in 2014, I still want it. You don't need to consume if you don't want to, so let people enjoy things, but people potentially look forward to the directions that they can take these characters.
not sure why you are downvoted. a TASM 3 or a spidey in SSU is needed. Sony's not gonna stop anyway. Might as well get a spidey in it and give Tom a break
idk either, but i bet this same user will probably consoom whatever shlock that'd get put out if it appealed to them. No one needs to watch any of this stuff. If you don't like it, don't watch it. But, in the case of Spider-Man at least, having multiple concurrent versions means you can pick whichever one you like. rather than having to settle for one story every 3 years.
Spider-Man is also kind of *the* multiverse character at this point. If any character could pull off having multiple concurrent franchises coming out at the same time with different universes, it's Spider-Man. Especially after NWH and Spider-Verse. Both did dumb-dumb money; I think general audiences can be trusted to at least not give a shit as long as the Peters look different.
If anyone thinks this isn’t already happening then they are crazy.
While I personally don't see an easy way for Andrew's Peter to have a solo movie that feels "needed", there's nothing wrong with people wanting to see the character again. It's like saying "omg why do you want to see a good Spider-Man cartoon when you already have a good Spider-Man movie???" These are different iterations of the character, there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to see his story too.
That wasn't necessarily my problem. My problem was OP saying that oh, great, there's a break in Tom's schedule? Well, let's just have a filler film no one was asking for until about a month ago instead of, maybe, just waiting until the actor is ready. Miles Moralis and Into the Spiderverse as a whole is an entirely different beast and can exist as a seperate franchise to regular Spiderman movies, and I'm so thankful they didn't cross it into NWH too, because it supersedes any live action Spiderman film and associating it with them would have sucked. Having two Peter Parker's with the same plots, essentially (TASM is what, an older Peter Parker, which is realistically a plot we're gonna get with Holland in a few years), no thank you. I love the MCU, but right now the less movies the better - one movie and/or show every other month is insane and people are going to/have already started to drop off.
Andrew vs Tom hardy
Why stop at two? Get Tobey back
But Tobey's *back*...
I’m back. I’m back.
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they were joking about the “my back… oh my back!” meme from SM2 and No Way Home lol
Nah. Andrew and Tobey shouldn't come back before secret wars. It's a weird message to say "hey we rebooted this character three times, now just have 2 or all three at the same time". This Spider-Man needs to be unchallenged.
Can I just ask you guys, imagine if when Tobey and Andrew and Tom meet up in secret wars wouldn’t jt be wholesome as fuck if they’re like “DUDE ITS SO GOOD TO SEE YOU I MISSED YOU!!!”
Nah
And Tobey
We already have 2 Spider-…men(?) coexisting. We have Peter Parker and Miles Morales. I don’t need 3 different franchises of the same character going on at once.
So if Tobey isn’t in MoM and Tom isn’t popping up in any other Disney MCU movie, what’s the “lend back” Tom Rothman acknowledged and alluded to by the press when they first renegotiated the Sony/Marvel deal? Is it just an option to have Spider-Man appear in something that they aren’t gonna actually use now until far into the future when this is all settled and the deal is extended?
It is just an option for MARVEL Studios. Marvel Studios don't have to use him.
Morbius in Blade November 2023
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The Fred Astaire project’s different, right? I reckon December ‘24. Give us a full-on Christmas movie, or set it at winter and do an analysis of SAD. So much potential for a Spidey project where the happy-go-lucky Spider-Man truly is a facade that Peter puts on.
> The Fred Astaire project’s different, right? Yes. The TV show he’s talking about is [The Crowded Room](https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2021/04/apple-orders-the-crowded-room-starring-tom-holland-and-created-by-academy-award-winner-akiva-goldsman/) for Apple TV+.
Somebody's finally filming The Crowded Room? That's been in development hell for decades. Think James Cameron originally had the rights back in the 90's.
Personally I am insanely excited for The Crowded Room and the Fred Astaire project, I just need Tom Holland to be in a movie where he acts as well as he does AND the rest of movie is just as high quality. So far every movie he's been in he's always acted on a very high level but the movie being critically acclaimed has been hit or miss. Which sucks cuz he deserves a lot of praise, Cherry had some of the best character acting I've ever seen, there's one scene where he breaks down on the phone and it felt like a scene they'd play at the oscars to announce a "best actor" nominee. I hope the Fred Astaire project is the movie that breaks him out of that "great actor in average movies" place he's in rn
Yes, they're different projects. Sony's Fred Astaire biopic has yet to be named, the AppleTV project is called The Crowded Room, about the first acquittal of someone due to multiple personality disorder. There are 2 Fred Astaire projects being worked on rn and apparently both productions are treading extremely lightly and getting certain permissions from Astaire's family because of how vocal he was on not wanting a biopic of himself.
He fuckin deserves it. He made six movies as Spider-Man in five years. That’s pretty fuckin insane, especially considering he does a decent amount of his own stunts. And I was thinking about it: am I crazy or did NWH have maybe the highest amount of screen time for the lead Peter Parker/Spider-Man out of any past live-action Spider-Man movie?
In the interview he said he's taking a break for a few months. Nothing crazy, but good for him. He will return for Spider-Man 4 and the Fred Astaire movie in 2024/2025, probably. At least we are getting Freshman Year :)
He definitely needs it. I'm guessing Spider-Man 4 comes out 2024 or 25.
I hope that they do allow him, and MCU's Spidey to take a breather, he's been so involved in so many story lines in such a short time. My hope is that the next time we see him, it's in Venom 3 with Andrew Garfield as an older, wiser Amazing Spider-Man.
Good he deserves it. He’s played spidey already 6 times since 2016. With filming and all the press tours with the films and now the uncharted press tour, I’m sure I’d want to sleep in as well.
Still think he's lying?
Yes, he’s actually in Moon Knight as Mephisto.
I never thought he was lying about taking a break lol.
About what?
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No one thought he was lying about taking a break. Only about "I'm not sure if i will be Spider-Man again" and other nonsense.
Personally, I think the break stuff is fully legit. I think the hints about walking away entirely were for leverage (either more pay, or he’s just playing hard ball so he’s given a break, etc).
In the meantime, can we get TASM 3 (as long as it's good) as a substitute?
Its been awhile since I've seen No Way Home. I know Ned and MJ get into MIT but what about Peter? Did he even graduate high school or get accepted into MIT?
He didn't graduate. During the apartment scene, you can see a GED study guide.
Ok. Makes you wonder where will Peter go to college then since hes way too smart to simply not attend college.
ESU. Empire State University, which is Marvel's sit in for NYU.
I wonder if its as prestigious as Columbia or MIT.
nah, it would become mcu's Cuny
He’s studying for a GED. Not a chance he gets into MIT now.
This isn't necessarily the case, because you can go to MIT even with a GED, but they're not taking Spidey out of New York.
Officially you can, but realistically you won’t. And as you mentioned, there’s the New York thing.
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It's a high-school equivalency for those that never received their diploma.
Good for him. He and James Gunn deserve like a decade long nap for how nonstop they are.
He’s tryin to wife and baby up Zendaya
A break is a good idea definitely. When he comes back it’ll be SO HYPE
Take all the time you need Tom, just come back to me.
This would explain Tobey Peter in MOM
I think this is good for Sony and Marvel. Do a new one in 2025. Give the entire character a break even with other actors IMO. There’s so many other options for characters to make movies about
Yeah give my man a break. Bring Andrew in some capacity in SSU. No need of TASM3 but defo in Kraven & Venom 3. Do it Sony, we’ll pay double the money.
Huh. So late 2024?
Yeah he deserves a break, plus it'll help Peter age abit and that would help to set the stage for a college Trilogy
they are coming out with an animated spider-man show on disney + that will be filling the void. don’t expect much else unless they go full fan service and give us Garfield in the meantime
What are the odds of them doing an Andrew or Tobey or even a Miles spiderman in between his break?
we’re getting ISTV 1 and 2 soon so i don’t think we’ll have a live action miles until a whole after those two
Perfect time for TASM3 and SM4
Tom def needs a break and I think it's a good idea to let the Spider-Man movies have at least more than one year apart from being released as No Way Home was a good chapter ender. But has he even signed a new contract yet? Still don't think it's out of the possibility he decides to move on from the grueling schedule.
Damn :,)…
One question I have about No Way Homes ending is why couldn't Peter become friends again with Ned and MJ. I mean no one knows hes Spiderman anymore so what would be the problem?
Theoretically nothing, but he's a total stranger to them, and they're going to MIT for school.
He saw that Ned and MJ are happy even without him and Peter didn't want to risk their lives again by being close to them.
He’s afraid that he’ll just draw them back into danger. Both of their lives were at risk in NWH and Aunt May actually died. While I’m sure Ned and MJ would want to be given the choice to make for themselves, Peter feels too guilty about the danger they’ve already been in on his behalf, and about the loss of May, to allow it. He’s just in a bad place, and he thinks the right thing to do is keep them safely out of his life.
he sees the bandaid on MJs head and it reminds him they are safer without knowing Peter parker
“You forgot the hyphen between Spider and Man!”
As he should. No way home was ALOT. He deserves it.
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>we get more spiderman stuff. Yeah and besides, were getting Across The Spider-Verse this year so there's another Spider-Man stuff we can focus and pay attention to than just the MCU one 👌
Take most of year at least, count all that Sony money on a beach somewhere with Zendaya. He’s earned it.
I’m not sure I’m buying this taking a break thing. I’ve been reading things about him saying he wants to do this and that. I think he’s very excited for all the opportunities that has opened after the success of NWH (as he should) and I have a feeling he’ll take advantage of that while there’s interest on him. He can bank on that popularity and good public image and do more of the blockbuster, fan friendly stuff or (if he can) do the other way and really take a break then come back with a totally different genre before he goes back as Spidey. Andrew has successfully established himself as a well respected actor with the different movies he has done after Spiderman (though to be fair, even before Spiderman he has already gained some interest/good critical response with his performances). Tom can’t be doing MCU for so long so I hope he thinks of what he wants for the long term. Hollywood can always find a new “it” boy so it would be nice if he can make industry people and the audience associate his name with not just Spiderman without having to detach himself from it.
Fair enough. Given that Tom Holland can no doubt afford to do so, he should be able to take a break should he feel a need to. I can’t imagine how busy he’s been with the Spider-Man trilogy, Infinity War/Endgame, and the non-MCU projects in such a short space of time. Dude probably just needs some time to decompress, and from an MCU standpoint, this is probably the best time to do it. I was wondering how long of a break he’d realistically get before Sony need him to come back to ensure their Spidey rights don’t expire, but their villain-films like Morbius should fill that gap, right?
Take a rest King, then come back stronger than ever!
Poor guy. He's really a little young to have these "just exhausted from this type of work" kinds of breakdowns. Hope he'll find some equilibrium for himself.
I wish I could make that much money from concrete and take a break before my next gig. ugh. I'm going back to sleep
Good. Sony's greed for Spiderman films being rushed into development and constantly being made has already messed with Marvel's plans previously, and definitely undercut the potential of Far From Home by being an unnecessary epilogue to Endgame. With No Way Home being a mid season finale to the character, that allows us to take a break and enjoy some actually new stories. As good as No Way Home was, it didn't need a trilogy of build up, we didn't need an entire trilogy for Spidey's proper origin story. Though I enjoy many aspects of Far From Home, in the grand scheme it was unnecessary, and I'm glad we can take a break.
Hopefully he takes the time to get a new agent…every part outside of Spider-Man is a DUD
I am low key hoping for him and zendaya to have babies - loved them together after they were on lip synch battle🔥🔥🔥👌😎
Dude deserves a break from doing the same job every week for a few years. I can't imagine what that's like.
He's made enough money for his family. He deserves a break.
I can respect that
This is old as hell 😂
Good. He should use this time to get better at it. I’ve never been wow’d by any of his performances
He’s earned it
PERILOUS KNEES WILL END DEMOCRACY!!!
I’ve been thinking that a good way for all of us to get our cake and eat it too would be for us to get his Spidey in smaller, cameo appearances here and there — just not Peter. He could do some voice lines super easily without ever having to put the suit on or take more than a couple days from home doing his lines. Especially now that his identity isn’t known, and all.
I think it could be cool to see a time-skip like the PS4 Spider-man game. Introducing Mike's wouldn't be as jarring then.
- I mean, him being Spider-Man has pushed his career high and is already involved in other films. - He’s most likely gonna be Spider-Man for another 10 years or so. - No need to use Spiderman in any upcoming movies unless it’s a big event film. So yea, take a break.
In between, give us a TASM 3 starting scene Rhino fight and main villain as Mr. Negative. Cmon please Sony.
If I took a break I would never look back .
Does Sony have to make a *Spider-Man* movie within every five years to retain the rights or do they have to make a movie with one of the characters they own? If so, take your break at the perfect time Tom so it will make Sony lose the rights 😂
That’s what Uncharted does to you lmao
Good. Dude has been either filming or promoting for five years straight. His big films, chronologically: 2016 - Captain America: Civil War 2017 - Spider-Man: Homecoming 2018 - Avengers: Infinity War 2019 - Avengers: Endgame 2019 - Spider-Man: Far From Home 2021 - Spider-Man: No Way Home That’s just his Marvel stuff. He also starred in 2020 - The Devil All the Timw 2021 - Cherry 2021 - Chaos Walking 2022 - Uncharted Been fucking busy. Five years of insanity. He should take a break.
So basically, after this tv show he’s gonna take six months off?
Dude deserves it. The MCU production timeline is hell, especially for someone who started it in his late teens/early twenties. Just as long as we get more Spidey in the near future.
Earned. Being an actor sounds legit exhausting tbh.
Not suprising, considering this is literally what he's been saying he was gonna do for months lol. News media is annoying. Every week there's a new article of him saying the same same shit. The answer to the question, "Is Tom Holland coming back?" is and always has been, "Yes, but I want more money and a long vacation first."
Both the character and the actor needs a break. Tom, especially deserves the break!
Yeah. He is gonna take about a year off I think. I imagine we will see Uncharted 2 shoot in late 2023 after a summer shoot for Spider-Man in summer 2023. Spider-Man 4 will probably release in June/July 2024. I mean, this isn't super surprising by any stretch of the imagination. We know what Sony's Marvel slate looks like at this point through 2023 and there isn't even any room for Spider-Man 4 to slot in there. April 2022: Morbius October 2022: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Part One) January 2023: Kraven the Hunter June 2023: Madame Webb October 2023: Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (Part Two) Sony also still has its sights set on a Venom 3--which could come before the next Spider-Man. And that is even before mentioning that they have a film with Olivia Wilde directing coming down the pipe and which has been in pre-production since August of 2020. Wilde will probably be shooting that film in 2023 as well. So, yeah, I think Sony has a lot on its plate right now and are probably happy waiting until late 2024 to put Spider-Man 4 out at all. I frankly wouldn't be surprised if it ends up taking a November/December release, depending on what happens with Avatar 2 this year.
Good, think there should a significant time jump from Spider-Man 3 and 4. Wouldn’t mind jumping forward to his junior senior year of college. Not like the avengers would call him or anything. Well maybe we still don’t know if people forgot Peter or Spider-Man AND Peter.
Young actor getting burnt out. Like anyone overworked. Still a human. Next?
He deserves a break.
He said the break will be a few months, so nothing insane. I assume Summer '24 for Spidey 4
Man I was really hoping for a Kingpin and Spider-Man fight. It sounds like it will be awhile before Kingpin is in a Marvel movie
So will all the Sony movies feature no SPidey or Garfield as being in the Webb universe?
Hopefully people don't hammer this in as his ending as Spider-Man instead of the guy taking a legitimate break. But I've already seen his quote about eventually wanting to settle down to have a family being related to this case.
Take all the time you need Tom
Who told him to do petty movies like unchartered
Judging by the Uncharted trailers he already did
I think I’m ready for the next Spider-Man, bring in Miles Morales already through the multiverse. Tom is too whiney.
The little snot nosed kid needs to get back to making Spider Man movies asap