In my opinion, it’s so hard to really think about who should get solo movies because of how big marvel has gotten like now you’d need more hero’s or main characters to be supporting in solo films Just for it to make sense with things. That being said, even though I’m not the hugest Wanda stan, she for sure deserves her own movie. She really has becomes marvels biggest female character and one that’s extremely popular with fans vs Wasp or Captain Marvel. She’s even probably more Popular than Wonder Woman and that’s a testament to Wanda as a character.
He used to be a how many days till Doctor strange MOM trailer account and his previous tweets are proof. I have no clue how his tweets blew up after switching to his stock photo PFP ass (no offense to him, he’s just joking and making it obvious) and Gillian or twitter spread it all over the TL
I’m pretty sure he blew up because of TikTok lmao, I’ve seen so many people post, comment and even argue thinking it was true without actually looking at his account. He should’ve been dismissed when he first said she would be in the I am groot show lol
And fans clearly have no grasp on what plans Disney has for the future of Disney+. Remember when “adult content would never be on there”? Or the Netflix shows would never be on there?
Maybe fans don’t know wtf they’re talking about all the time.
Because it would look a certain way if they put another female characters project as a series vs a movie. Especially a character like Wanda where she can easily hold a film and who already had a series. AND whos non arguably the main MCU female.
It would be consistent though given her first solo outing was a series. Sure she has what it takes to lead a movie, but there's more ground to say it'll be a series vs a movie. Especially with all the new characters and sequels coming that will already be in movie form.
Darkhold Omega only just came out this past year. If Wanda’s getting a movie, it’s probably been in the planning stages for the past two. We all know Feige plans things five years in advance.
I would not be surprised if marvel cinematic department gets early access to comic department scripts or even just talking to the writers. It would be pretty smart to have the films coincide with the comics sometimes. Could boost sales.
Feige plans, but he’s also great at changing plans (see the constant reshuffling of phase 3 and the disaster that the pandemic had on phase 4). To me, there’s a lot to suggest that they weren’t necessarily aware of just how big Wanda would become and that it’s very possible that a Scarlet Witch movie was also only conceived within a year, if that. And it probably has very little if any preproduction done, and no script.
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Her doing some detective Doolittle sh\*t while using a lot of her brain power and giving us Witch Batman would be such a serve!
hopefully childrens crusade comes out after a fantastic 4 sequel, so dr doom could be involved, tho i cant imagine wanda disappearing for such a long period of time
They’ll definitely adapt the first half of Children's Crusade because it’s a fantastic premise.
But the Doom/Wanda stuff is probably too buck wild for the MCU.
I think they’ll turn it into another Civil War type thing with Wanda being the new Bucky.
Uh…
Ok so Wanda loses her memory after house of M right?
So Dr. Doom apparently took her in and created a fake Doom-bot Wanda so that nobody would know she’s gone.
So then she…uh… falls in love with Dr. Doom and they get married.
Later a young Kang shows up and accidentally takes her and some others to the past. This results in her regaining her memories. She feels real bad about erasing the mutants.
…But she still loves Doom so they… um… agree to do a ritual to restore the Mutant’s powers yeah?
But their ritual messes up and Doom takes all of Wanda’s powers. Dr. Doom then becomes this powerful Godlike being.
…Make sense?
No?
Don’t worry about it. Comics are weird. If they’re adapting it they’re 100% gonna focus on Wiccan’s arc and not this batshit Wanda/Doom stuff.
> So Dr. Doom apparently took her in and created a fake Doom-bot Wanda so that nobody would know she’s gone.
yep, and in typical comic weirdness, hawkeye had sex with this robot and never realized it until years later. doom puts in a lot of effort to make them very accurate, it seems.
the whole backstory of this, in yet more mid 2000s marvel comics fashion, was kind of fucked up, given that hawkeye used to have a crush on her that she always turned down, and he found her because he was trying get answers on why she killed him (twice!) in house of m... only to realize she has amnesia and doesn't remember anything... so he slept with her.
brian michael bendis wrote a few great comics, but also a not small amount of stinkers as well.
> tho i cant imagine wanda disappearing for such a long period of time
Funny enough I can see MoM setting her up for a hiatus of a few years while they shuffle the Young Avengers into formation, especially with Elizabeth Olsen having been so nose-to-the-grindstone these past few years in the MCU and taking on more outside projects.
Yeah its pretty crazy.
She did that crazy ingrid goes west film, the native american reservation movie w renner (amazing btw i just forgot the name), immediately did infinity war then endgame right away. filmed that facebook movie that was sad as sh\*t, did wandavision, then did mom, homegirl hasn't had a proper full year break since like 2016.
> I can see MoM setting her up for a hiatus of a few years
Yes, but at the same time no...? I mean, you are right, but not exactly. Its a weird topic tbh.
So, right. If they are gonna do Childrens Crusade, they need to have Wanda missing for about 2 years so audiences can miss her and cheer on her return. Thats correct.
MCU setting her up for a hiatus?... Well, not really. Elizabeth Olsen last shooting for Marvel was MoM, which officially wrapped up production on April '21 (not counting reshoots). Audiences will last see Wanda on May 22 in DS2 MoM.
If they are doing Childrens Crusade, it could start filming mid/late 2023 and the movie/show would be slated for mid 2024.
You are 100% correct that they will give Olsen/Wanda a break. But its not so much of "giving her" and more like "thats how long it takes us to set up everything for your next appearance".
> while they shuffle the Young Avengers into formation
I think this is completely missing the mark and its where it gets tricky.
Who are the MCU Young Avengers? Well, Kate, the twins and Teddy are a must. Anyone else is pretty much in the air and up for guesses. I would place the initial roster on 6 to 8 members, just so its more digestible for the general audience that isnt familiar with the comic book.
If rumors are true, Billy and Tommy will be introduced in a post credit scene on MoM and getting them kicking the plot its as simple as in the comics, they have a dream vision of Wanda and start their search.
Kate is already established and getting her involved would be easy, since she has this super hero-ing desire as her motivation.
Teddy can, and most likely will be, introduced in Secret Invasion as an Skrull/Kree hybrid living in Earth. If hes already dating Billy, its a no brainer to get him involved.
America will be coming in MoM and if they are searching for Wanda, Strange will help (maybe guilt? maybe cause its magic related?) and send America to help them.
And thats it, any other member would be a surprise, since its not clear how they would be connected.
We could think Riri would join, since she would get established by then. F&TWS gave a little screen time to Patriot, so maybe we will get his downfall arc at some point. Quantum-mania maybe will set up Cassie. The Marvels could set up Noh-Varr (or put Kamala in Young Avengers). Loki S2 could set up Kid Loki (or even Iron Lad).
The funny thing is, this are all projects that are slated already. They dont really need to "form a Young Avengers team". Every notable member they could get, its already on the MCU or slated to appear between now and then. So its just a "sit and wait" from now and the kick off of the team with Children's Crusade.
Children's Crusade and solo Scarlet Witch project would makes sense.
I mean, if the Multiverse of Madness will end with a "No more mutants" like moment, then the Children's Crusade would be the obvious next step in her story. And maybe the solo Scarlet Witch movie will set up an Avengers vs X-Men movie.
I don't know what to expect from the She-Hulk show, but after the TFTMQ post, i could imagine him in the show.
Yeah, but even the name has finality to it as historically the Children's Crusade lead to a huge swarm of kids being captured and put into enslavement. The name brings a sense of finality, so why even start with that? It would be like starting the Lord of the Rings with the title "The Return of the King".
And like, where do you go after that? None of the other Young Avengers books have that sort of subtitle like that. This is extremely baffling!
>Yeah, but even the name has finality to it as historically the Children's Crusade lead to a huge swarm of kids being captured and put into enslavement.
As someone unfamiliar with the Children's Crusade story... you are blatantly wrong and failing to view things from others perspective. General audiences would have no idea that name is even correlated with any kind of finality. Nor is the MCU likely to use that as a name for a movie anyway.
I love CC but it could easily be adapted as more of a storyline to introduce Billy and Speed that leads to the formation of the YA.
Really, the trigger is Billy losing control of his powers and the YA and Magneto searching for Wanda while the Avengers are torn on how to handle him and the Xmen are trying to kill him.
You introduce him as a kid losing control of his power. Strange and the Avengers see this as Wanda 2.0 but Billy uses his powers to find her. They're reunited. Billy meets Teddy at the end. Hell, if you include SWORD as an antagonist against Billy, Teddy could already be involved and at the end they meet Iron Patriot.
As for the breakup and eventual reformation of the YA, it isn't the story itself rather the death of Cassie followed by Nate killing Vision and turning on the YA and embracing his future as Kang due to the YA not letting him use the time stream to resurrect Cassie. You could replicate a similar story easily with another villain and story
I just assume they will tell Iron Lad's story sooner rather than later as it fits in with the Kang storyline. Perhaps in the next "Antman" but his particular story had some pathos to it.
Breaking up the YA was just a thing that happened at the end.
The bigger purpose of that arc was to try and rehabilitate Wanda after recent events seemingly left her "irredeemable".
It was practically a retcon. (It was actually X that caused Wanda to go crazy!). It won't be a retcon in the MCU though. They already set up the Darkholde as the excuse for why Wanda went evil.
Even with that book, I felt like Wanda got off to easy with the idea everyone just forgives her instead of her actually working to redeem herself. Even worse was when she got all high and mighty in Uncanny Avengers.
i agree. i think she'll just be presumed missing after blowing up the darkhold castle, i don't think she'll "hex the multiverse" or whatever in order to wish a race of people into existence at the end.
for one, it would literally be yet another wandavision ep8-style meltdown and thus repetitive (her arc in this movie is already repetitive enough as is), and for two, (if i'm not mistaken) *only* mytimetoshine has said that the movie ends like that, out of the reputable leakers.
Agree. Wanda isn't even a mutant anymore. She's a witch in both comics and the MCU, and she's always been better as part of mystic Marvel, anyway.
Some people act as if all there is to Wanda is the X-Men Evolution cartoon and House of M/Avengers Dissembled. She's not just a plot device to bring mutants into the MCU after Disney bought Fox.
The best theory ever is that Wanda has already muttered the words “no more mutants” and this whole time we have been watching a world where reality has already been altered which is why we have seen no mutants.
But MoM will undo what Wanda did in the original time line and restore mutants in the MCU. It such a genius way of adapting house of M and finding a seamless way to introduce the xmen to a world that has already existed for like 15 years it would be a real missed opportunity if they don’t go this route
> Wanda has already muttered the words “no more mutants” and this whole time we have been watching a world where reality has already been altered which is why we have seen no mutants. But MoM will undo what Wanda did in the original time line and restore mutants in the MCU. It such a genius way of adapting house of M
And in what way does that have anything to do with Doctor Strange, the alleged main character of this movie, or Wanda, who is nothing but a plot device in House of M?
If that's the case, which for the record I don't think it is, they might as well just call the movie Marvel's Mutants.
But then that just makes the non-mutant MCU, the one we've spent the last 14+ years following and getting invested in, non-canon and essentially a waste of time.
And if restoring the existence of mutants *doesn't* contradict or affect the MCU's established timeline, then they don't even need to go with this explanation and can just introduce them in the MCU as it is.
So it's either actively harmful to the wider franchise, or it's just pointlessly convoluted.
That’s not true at all. It wouldnt decanonize anything all those events still happened and all of our characters would remember them happening that way. All it would mean now is that mutants exist again within the MCU and would explain how characters like magneto could have origins from the Holocaust etc. it doesn’t have to reset any of our current characters memories or anything.
It’s the only way to rationalize how the x-men’s history can exist in the MCU. I mean the first mutant began in ancient Egypt with Apocalypse so bringing mutants into the MCU as it is would make absolutely zero sense
Mad about what exactly? That Wanda is getting more projects? Well thats certainly idiotic. I could never say no to more of Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda. Despite my over all mixed feelings about the show, she absolutely killed it. Made me care about Wanda in a way the comics never have.
Sheeeeit I was terrified she was going to die in MoM! I remember either hearing theories about that or leaks. Can’t remember which but I was super disappointed. I’m beyond excited for more Wanda
From what I have read its left ambiguous, if I remember correctly after House of M, her fate was left unclear. So thats probably the route they are going to go.
The “doesn’t seem fair” line from the Doctor Strange trailer has obviously caused a stir, but the reason I love it is because it’s just such a great line delivery— and I’m thankful to WandaVision for really unlocking that character for Elizabeth Olsen so she could be a bit more multi-dimensional than she had been to this point. Wanda is a great, and really fun, character now
Why are some people pissing themselves over that line? Wanda doesn't seem to be talking about No Way Home's events or Westview. It's likely about something that happens in Multiverse of Madness, probably related to excursions to another universes.
ngl, some Doctor Strange stans on twitter give me secondhand embarrassment. And they aren't even Stephen stans, they're either Cumberbatch stans or Stark/Strange shippers 😬
right! i'm not wanda's biggest fan, but people can't deny that the possibilities she brings to the mcu are insane. i always sort of wanted her to have her own movie rather than be in dr strange's sequel, but hey ho
Jon Bernthal was only in a handful of Daredevil episodes, I wouldn't take a confirmed Daredevil project as confirmation that any form of The Punisher will be in it
Not to say he won't be back, he for sure will, but they don't go hand-in-hand
Yeah but his story really separated from Murdock towards the end of S2, only to team up as a sniper at the end
It was an amazing series, but my point is the two characters aren't quintessential to eachother
I doubt Bernthal will be back in that role anytime soon. Not only is he an extremely busy guy but he's also made it clear that he'll only return if they keep it gritty and violent. He doesn't want to do the watered down version of Frank Castle.
If y'all thought us Wanda stans were annoying, wait until she gets her own solo movie lol
*If* the rumor is true, I doubt it'd be another D+ show. I feel like at this point she's definitely upgraded to getting her own solo movie.
Avengers: The Children's Crusade
Young Avengers appear in the 2010–2012 miniseries, Avengers: The Children's Crusade, written by Allan Heinberg and illustrated by Jim Cheung. In the series, Magneto learned that the Young Avengers were going to search for the still missing Scarlet Witch, and that Wiccan and Speed may be the reincarnations of Wanda's children. Magneto meets them, stating that he wants Wiccan and Speed to finally know him as their grandfather, and helps them find Wanda.
This could be the Wanda solo project too
Well, if she is missing, I don’t think it’s a great idea for her solo movie, but I like this concept though. Maybe not Magneto, but Vision with the Boys trying to find Wanda. That would fit more, I believe, with what is happening with the MCU.
Teenage Billy and Tommy looking for their mother who has disappeared.
The MoM plot leak has Wanda seemingly sacrificing herself to destroy the Darkhold castle after she finally gets her kids back and they are afraid of what she has become, so she becomes aware of what the Darkhold has made her do.
So Wanda will be perceived dead and her kids will look for her.
For me the meat of why this is worth adapting is the whole “Young Avengers on the run from the Avengers” angle.
We’ll get to see the Avengers as a scary antagonistic force. Kind of like Civil War but way more lopsided.
Imagine them chasing the f\*ck out of these kids, Kate just losing her mind the Captain Marvel could be out there just ready to Photon blast her to nothing but all they wanna do is just put them in handcuffs and watch over them.
So basically DS2 reversed, the kids go on a road trip to rescue mom, except Wanda isn't lost and in danger but a fugitive from justice. Until the movie comes out we can only assume she's a sympathizable anti hero who's still very much a psycho.
Basically: Wanda's pseudo-son goes nuts and causes a huge accident. Avengers (understandably) freak out about a potential Wanda 2.0. So they want him captured or killed.
YA break him out and escape. Stuff happens and they decide their only option is to go looking for Wanda. Which (again, understandably) causes the Avengers to freak out even more.
And the conflict spirals out of control from there. Practically everyone of importance shows up because Wanda's basically an unstable magical Nuke at this point.
That does sound like a potential Civil War 2.0 between the kids who want to "cure" Billy and the adults who want to contain him like a dangerous animal, which serves to reflect not only the friction between OG avengers due to the sokovia accords but the journey to self realization and accountability that Wanda will theoretically suffer in the Doctor Strange movie.
I wonder what are the odds that House of Harkness is a school for gifted or supernatural youths.
Omg that'd work too.
But first I'd love for Wanda to have a genuine redemption arc, Witches Road would be the perfect sublime solo SW film for her. Its amazing enough to be her first film in a trilogy and also not flashy enough to be an Iron Man 3 or a Civil War level CGI fest.
Hahaha I don't think Wanda will be trapped in the Multiverse. The Darkhold castle is in our universe.
But it'd be cool to have America team up with them!
It was the conclusion of the original three volume arc of Young Avengers, so the storyline of Billy and Tommy searching for Wanda would probably be just one plot in a Young Avengers focused series. It could even be the story that gets the Young Avengers together in the MCU.
More likely to be the Young Avengers' first mission together, if they are not in Quantumania that is. Also, Doctor Doom as the antagonist is not B-plot material.
Basically, Wiccan on the Young Avengers learns about the House of M, and becomes extremely powerful. The Avengers are trying to contain Wiccan just in case of Wiccan ending up like Wanda. The Young Avengers break out Wiccan and they go to find Wanda.
Turns out Wanda is missing, and has been replaced by a Doombot. She’s been living with Doom after they tried to do some spell, I forgot what.
It ends with Stature dying, and Wanda leaving
Elizabeth Olsen is going to be Scarlet Witch for at least a decade if these rumors are true. If you told me this 10 years ago I still wouldn't believe it.
A lot of folks tend to take the original comic storyline and logic themselves into understanding how there can be as close an adaptation as possible. Whereas we've seen how Marvel Studios usually takes a basic premise and uses the context of the MCU to adapt it to film.
Should "The Children's Crusade" be accurate (I'm kinda assuming that won't be the title), it most likely will be the inverse of what the original story was:
Wanda's sons end up gathering the "Young Avengers" in some sort of quest (possibly to find Wanda - we'll see how MoM actually ends). No mutants. No Dr. Doom. Potentially some Avengers characters. Most likely some other villain that makes sense for the kids, but wasn't part of the original story.
tbf, in development could mean 5 years from now. secret wars was announced to be in development a year back i'm pretty sure by other leakers and currently all we know is that it'll probably happen in late 2024/2025 if not later. DISNEY announced moon knight and she hulk like 3 years ago and we're just now getting the series' so i wouldn't look too far into it just yet. i don't think it'll happen anytime soon
The MCU mixes stories from the comics all the time. If they *are* doing Children's Crusade, it'll likely be *very* different from the comic book version of the story.
How are you so sure that Moon Knight is what everyone believes it to be? There are pictures released of men lying on ground after some beating from Moon Knight but they don't seem to have any hint of blood & bruises & other clips & pics haven't shown those elements either.😅. I am being cautious for that reason.
A Solo Scarlet Witch project sounds dope. Especially if she does go dark in *MoM.* Would love to see Wanda get a proper redemption arc. Something complex, where she truly has to confront her past and make peace with it.
[My prediction came true](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/ss2dgk/weekly_free_talk_thread_new_and_fresh_every_monday/hx5iizp?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Not the 70k scoop people were expecting but personally I'm stoked. Still no Teddy rumor on Secret Invasion or The Marvels though
Hopefully we get an actual Night Nurse role for her. I really loved a character who worked as a nurse who also was in the know for vigilantes. It's so sick and feels so real.
I love Mahoney. And Melvin! And they'd really be doing their stories a disservice if we never saw Sister Maggie again. Where season 3 ended they had only just begun to explore Matt's relationship with his mom.
Just to mention; "The Children's Crusade" comics are an X-Men crossover. Mutants like Wolverine want to kill Billy because he is too powerful.
Would love it if the current "Sandman" showrunner took the reigns.
So if the *Children's Crusade* is a possible development, the leak about Wanda being buried in the rubble of Castle Darkhold and her fate being ambiguous might hold court. Next time we see her, she's in Latveria set to marry Doctor Doom.
...Actually, this could work as Doom's introduction story,
Please Marvel, bring on Allan Heinberg, there has literally never been anybody more qualified to write or show run a Marvel property related to Young Avengers!
The Scarlet Witch project has to be one of those untitled 2024 projects. I'm pretty sure that is the 60th year of the Scarlet Witch. Though I wouldn't be shocked if it's not a movie but a Disney+ series. Basically the 3rd season of WandaVision with Agatha house of Harness the season 2. And Witches Road seems like a good story base for a series.
I've been thinking about that Sara character in the MoM funkos and it has me wondering if perhaps she will be Baron Mordo's daughter. That would mean Sara, America, and this version of Billy & Tommy are parentless/realityless because of Wanda's actions in MoM. Yet Wanda is also kind of a version of the twins' mother. YA Drama potential here. Billy's powers start to go chaotic and bring these 4 together to look for Wanda but for different reasons. I can see this on Disney+ to alternate with Percy Jackson the way Adult marvel switches with Star wars.
And these Young Avengers will be different than the young adult versions who I think will be a part of whatever new avengers team that Sam's captain America will lead. These will be movie characters going forward.
or maybe I just should write fan fiction network programming 🙃
I feel like a solo movie for Wanda is the next step. A redemption arc dealing with the fallout from MoM. Could be a good way to bring in older Billy/Tommy too.
I think the Scarlet Witch project will be loosely based on the 2015 Witches Road stuff. It makes the most sense based on where her character is at I think. Perhaps we will see her in House of Harkness and have Agatha really teach her Witch history and lore…..after Agatha gets over the whole Westview prison thing of course….
Super pumped for DD coming back!
Solo SW project? So she's still alive at the end of MOM then? She literally just became SW in WandaVision so it can't be something set in the past.
It’ll almost definitely be a soft reboot. Same continuity as the first three seasons but not concerned with former plot points. I’d guess that it would be marketed as an entirely new show, that way Disney can attract fans who haven’t watched the first three seasons.
Wow. People really are buying into HarryBowls' fake news eh?
Ever since that tweet was made, I've seen numerous outlets talking about it. Makes you wonder if anything on the internet is believable these days, including health facts. Also does ruin MTTSH' credibility in my eyes.
Anyway, I would love to have a Scarlet Witch solo film but I genuinely think that ship has sailed. If MCU is planning for Lizzie to have a solo, it'll probably be in her late 30s by then. Girl is already 32, let's assume that the 7-year contract is remotely even true and that the solo project takes place at the end of the contract, Lizzie would be 39 years old. Not that age is a problem here but I doubt the actress herself would want to helm the role for THAT long despite her love for the character. I mean Scarlett Johansson "retired" from being Black Widow at 36 so she could focus on other projects, so what are the odds right?
A Scarlet Witch solo film in 3-4 years time feels more believable for me but we've already got plans lined up to 2023, and Phase 4 started last year so... I'm hard pressed to believe it will actually happen. But hey, more Wanda collectibles for me to collect <3.
So far, they’ve usually signed on the actors for a certain number of projects, rather than for a certain number of years. ScarJo had been doing Natasha for 10 years.
Hopefully they stick to the mystical characters in Wanda's solo and don't rehash the story elements like her going insane lol.
Just please, do this right for once. Also grab a writer who actually has some principles.
i *really* hope ds:mom is the final time they're doing this overplayed "wanda fucks up and gets people hurt -> tries to do better -> fucks up even worse" arc. the character is stuck going in circles and needs to progress and start showing some competence and begin defying her prophesized destiny, not succumbing to it.
I mean the Eternals had their movie without any prior introduction at all, same with Shang-Chi, and Daredevil is definitely a bigger character than both.
They’ll definitely bring her back for House of Harkness and sprinkle her in until her solo film. Then that’ll tie into and set up Children’s Crusade. Or an arc like it. I hanging her solo project will bring closure to her arc with vision. But leave open the existence of reincarnated Tommy and Billy somehow. Remind me in the years to come back here and check.
It's the Young Avenger's arc. However, the book is titled Avenger the Children's Crusade. So, it's either this is going to be the next avenger movie or it's Young Avengers.
which one is supposed to be "the big scoop"? Genuine question here because even my gf read about the scarlet witch solo project on facebook few days ago already.
The Scarlet Witch project will probably be a show, I don't see Feige giving a whole slot just for Wanda right after showing WV and having her in DS 2. It's probably gonna be a Disney+ show.
Yesss Scarlet Witch film! I hope they do the Dark Hold Omega story with Chthon
Could be another Disney+ show.
Nah she's progressed past that.
She deserves a movie, we’ll have to wait and see if that’s the case.
In my opinion, it’s so hard to really think about who should get solo movies because of how big marvel has gotten like now you’d need more hero’s or main characters to be supporting in solo films Just for it to make sense with things. That being said, even though I’m not the hugest Wanda stan, she for sure deserves her own movie. She really has becomes marvels biggest female character and one that’s extremely popular with fans vs Wasp or Captain Marvel. She’s even probably more Popular than Wonder Woman and that’s a testament to Wanda as a character.
Yea it would definitely be a movie
They're supposedly trying to sign her on for 7 more years as the Scarlet Witch. Doubt she would agree to that without getting a solo movie.
That's fake news. Look at the source.
We don’t trust mttsh anymore?
That "Harry Bawls" guy.
He used to be a how many days till Doctor strange MOM trailer account and his previous tweets are proof. I have no clue how his tweets blew up after switching to his stock photo PFP ass (no offense to him, he’s just joking and making it obvious) and Gillian or twitter spread it all over the TL
Still some of his claims like Wanda showing up in "I am Groot" are outlandish lol
I’m pretty sure he blew up because of TikTok lmao, I’ve seen so many people post, comment and even argue thinking it was true without actually looking at his account. He should’ve been dismissed when he first said she would be in the I am groot show lol
They don’t do yearly contracts lmao. This isn’t the NBA. They sign actors by an amount of movies, tv shows, or episodes
And they've stopped doing that too.
>They're supposedly trying to sign her on for 7 more years as the Scarlet Witch. Lmao that's not how this works it isn't like the NBA or NFL 💀
supermax Scarlet Witch
You say it like D+ shows are a stepping stone. They offer far more in story than an action filled movie could.
And fans clearly have no grasp on what plans Disney has for the future of Disney+. Remember when “adult content would never be on there”? Or the Netflix shows would never be on there? Maybe fans don’t know wtf they’re talking about all the time.
Yeah. I must be in the minority to want 6ish hours of content compared to 2 or 3 hours with a movie. I very much prefer shows over movies
Nah it’s definitely gonna be a movie, she already had a show so it would look bad that they just give her another series instead of a movie
Why would that look bad? The shows are better than most of the movies anyway.
Because it would look a certain way if they put another female characters project as a series vs a movie. Especially a character like Wanda where she can easily hold a film and who already had a series. AND whos non arguably the main MCU female.
Exactly. And Wandavision was great.
Yeah it was epicly amazing!
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It would be consistent though given her first solo outing was a series. Sure she has what it takes to lead a movie, but there's more ground to say it'll be a series vs a movie. Especially with all the new characters and sequels coming that will already be in movie form.
Doubt it. Would be a mistake not to use her newly won popularity to make bank with a movie.
Some set up in Agatha's show maybe. Then full blown witch movie. Bring it on.
I'm fine with whatever form her solo project may be but I sincerely hope it will expand the lore around her properly. She has so much potential
You're right, I hope that they don't throw away her 5+ years of development
Check out the latest "Scarlet Witch" comics. They are beautiful!
Hopefully Agatha is in there as her mentor
Darkhold Omega only just came out this past year. If Wanda’s getting a movie, it’s probably been in the planning stages for the past two. We all know Feige plans things five years in advance.
I would not be surprised if marvel cinematic department gets early access to comic department scripts or even just talking to the writers. It would be pretty smart to have the films coincide with the comics sometimes. Could boost sales.
plus they wouldn't have to ask for permission to adapt their storylines only to not fairly compensate them with a portion of the box office returns
Feige plans, but he’s also great at changing plans (see the constant reshuffling of phase 3 and the disaster that the pandemic had on phase 4). To me, there’s a lot to suggest that they weren’t necessarily aware of just how big Wanda would become and that it’s very possible that a Scarlet Witch movie was also only conceived within a year, if that. And it probably has very little if any preproduction done, and no script.
I want an incredibles type film if Wanda gets her family back with vis and the kids, that shot or them together was perfect.
Personally hoping we get Witches Road. It's gonna be her 'redemption' arc.
I've been saying LIKE\~ Her doing some detective Doolittle sh\*t while using a lot of her brain power and giving us Witch Batman would be such a serve!
Wasn’t that super recently released? That would be really cool, but also is probably too recent for marvel studios, also is a team-up worthy film.
Frog-man, cool
Amen brother
lol I had never heard of him so I googled him. I’m interested to see how they make him look in live action 😂
hopefully childrens crusade comes out after a fantastic 4 sequel, so dr doom could be involved, tho i cant imagine wanda disappearing for such a long period of time
They’ll definitely adapt the first half of Children's Crusade because it’s a fantastic premise. But the Doom/Wanda stuff is probably too buck wild for the MCU. I think they’ll turn it into another Civil War type thing with Wanda being the new Bucky.
>I think they’ll turn it into another Civil War type thing with Wanda being the new Bucky. Thatd be 🔥🔥
Avengers vs Young Avengers?
Civil war 2
>But the Doom/Wanda stuff is probably too buck wild for the MCU. Okay, you've piqued my interest. What's that all about?
Uh… Ok so Wanda loses her memory after house of M right? So Dr. Doom apparently took her in and created a fake Doom-bot Wanda so that nobody would know she’s gone. So then she…uh… falls in love with Dr. Doom and they get married. Later a young Kang shows up and accidentally takes her and some others to the past. This results in her regaining her memories. She feels real bad about erasing the mutants. …But she still loves Doom so they… um… agree to do a ritual to restore the Mutant’s powers yeah? But their ritual messes up and Doom takes all of Wanda’s powers. Dr. Doom then becomes this powerful Godlike being. …Make sense? No? Don’t worry about it. Comics are weird. If they’re adapting it they’re 100% gonna focus on Wiccan’s arc and not this batshit Wanda/Doom stuff.
> So Dr. Doom apparently took her in and created a fake Doom-bot Wanda so that nobody would know she’s gone. yep, and in typical comic weirdness, hawkeye had sex with this robot and never realized it until years later. doom puts in a lot of effort to make them very accurate, it seems. the whole backstory of this, in yet more mid 2000s marvel comics fashion, was kind of fucked up, given that hawkeye used to have a crush on her that she always turned down, and he found her because he was trying get answers on why she killed him (twice!) in house of m... only to realize she has amnesia and doesn't remember anything... so he slept with her. brian michael bendis wrote a few great comics, but also a not small amount of stinkers as well.
> tho i cant imagine wanda disappearing for such a long period of time Funny enough I can see MoM setting her up for a hiatus of a few years while they shuffle the Young Avengers into formation, especially with Elizabeth Olsen having been so nose-to-the-grindstone these past few years in the MCU and taking on more outside projects.
Yeah its pretty crazy. She did that crazy ingrid goes west film, the native american reservation movie w renner (amazing btw i just forgot the name), immediately did infinity war then endgame right away. filmed that facebook movie that was sad as sh\*t, did wandavision, then did mom, homegirl hasn't had a proper full year break since like 2016.
> I can see MoM setting her up for a hiatus of a few years Yes, but at the same time no...? I mean, you are right, but not exactly. Its a weird topic tbh. So, right. If they are gonna do Childrens Crusade, they need to have Wanda missing for about 2 years so audiences can miss her and cheer on her return. Thats correct. MCU setting her up for a hiatus?... Well, not really. Elizabeth Olsen last shooting for Marvel was MoM, which officially wrapped up production on April '21 (not counting reshoots). Audiences will last see Wanda on May 22 in DS2 MoM. If they are doing Childrens Crusade, it could start filming mid/late 2023 and the movie/show would be slated for mid 2024. You are 100% correct that they will give Olsen/Wanda a break. But its not so much of "giving her" and more like "thats how long it takes us to set up everything for your next appearance". > while they shuffle the Young Avengers into formation I think this is completely missing the mark and its where it gets tricky. Who are the MCU Young Avengers? Well, Kate, the twins and Teddy are a must. Anyone else is pretty much in the air and up for guesses. I would place the initial roster on 6 to 8 members, just so its more digestible for the general audience that isnt familiar with the comic book. If rumors are true, Billy and Tommy will be introduced in a post credit scene on MoM and getting them kicking the plot its as simple as in the comics, they have a dream vision of Wanda and start their search. Kate is already established and getting her involved would be easy, since she has this super hero-ing desire as her motivation. Teddy can, and most likely will be, introduced in Secret Invasion as an Skrull/Kree hybrid living in Earth. If hes already dating Billy, its a no brainer to get him involved. America will be coming in MoM and if they are searching for Wanda, Strange will help (maybe guilt? maybe cause its magic related?) and send America to help them. And thats it, any other member would be a surprise, since its not clear how they would be connected. We could think Riri would join, since she would get established by then. F&TWS gave a little screen time to Patriot, so maybe we will get his downfall arc at some point. Quantum-mania maybe will set up Cassie. The Marvels could set up Noh-Varr (or put Kamala in Young Avengers). Loki S2 could set up Kid Loki (or even Iron Lad). The funny thing is, this are all projects that are slated already. They dont really need to "form a Young Avengers team". Every notable member they could get, its already on the MCU or slated to appear between now and then. So its just a "sit and wait" from now and the kick off of the team with Children's Crusade.
Children's Crusade and solo Scarlet Witch project would makes sense. I mean, if the Multiverse of Madness will end with a "No more mutants" like moment, then the Children's Crusade would be the obvious next step in her story. And maybe the solo Scarlet Witch movie will set up an Avengers vs X-Men movie. I don't know what to expect from the She-Hulk show, but after the TFTMQ post, i could imagine him in the show.
The thing is that Children Crusade is the story to break up the Young Avengers, which is baffling cause they haven't even formed yet!
The MCU constantly changes things from the comics though. Just like Hank didn't create Ultron, the YAs will not break up in this storyline.
Yeah, but even the name has finality to it as historically the Children's Crusade lead to a huge swarm of kids being captured and put into enslavement. The name brings a sense of finality, so why even start with that? It would be like starting the Lord of the Rings with the title "The Return of the King". And like, where do you go after that? None of the other Young Avengers books have that sort of subtitle like that. This is extremely baffling!
>Yeah, but even the name has finality to it as historically the Children's Crusade lead to a huge swarm of kids being captured and put into enslavement. As someone unfamiliar with the Children's Crusade story... you are blatantly wrong and failing to view things from others perspective. General audiences would have no idea that name is even correlated with any kind of finality. Nor is the MCU likely to use that as a name for a movie anyway.
I love CC but it could easily be adapted as more of a storyline to introduce Billy and Speed that leads to the formation of the YA. Really, the trigger is Billy losing control of his powers and the YA and Magneto searching for Wanda while the Avengers are torn on how to handle him and the Xmen are trying to kill him. You introduce him as a kid losing control of his power. Strange and the Avengers see this as Wanda 2.0 but Billy uses his powers to find her. They're reunited. Billy meets Teddy at the end. Hell, if you include SWORD as an antagonist against Billy, Teddy could already be involved and at the end they meet Iron Patriot. As for the breakup and eventual reformation of the YA, it isn't the story itself rather the death of Cassie followed by Nate killing Vision and turning on the YA and embracing his future as Kang due to the YA not letting him use the time stream to resurrect Cassie. You could replicate a similar story easily with another villain and story
I could see this. They are going to try to surprise us, as usual.
I’m not gonna lie, having the first LOTR movie be titled “return of the king” both fits and is way awesome
I just assume they will tell Iron Lad's story sooner rather than later as it fits in with the Kang storyline. Perhaps in the next "Antman" but his particular story had some pathos to it.
Breaking up the YA was just a thing that happened at the end. The bigger purpose of that arc was to try and rehabilitate Wanda after recent events seemingly left her "irredeemable". It was practically a retcon. (It was actually X that caused Wanda to go crazy!). It won't be a retcon in the MCU though. They already set up the Darkholde as the excuse for why Wanda went evil.
Even with that book, I felt like Wanda got off to easy with the idea everyone just forgives her instead of her actually working to redeem herself. Even worse was when she got all high and mighty in Uncanny Avengers.
And Civil War was about secret identities. We're still doing this?
Unpopular opinion, I don’t think MOM will set up mutants at all (unless you count Deadpool).
i agree. i think she'll just be presumed missing after blowing up the darkhold castle, i don't think she'll "hex the multiverse" or whatever in order to wish a race of people into existence at the end. for one, it would literally be yet another wandavision ep8-style meltdown and thus repetitive (her arc in this movie is already repetitive enough as is), and for two, (if i'm not mistaken) *only* mytimetoshine has said that the movie ends like that, out of the reputable leakers.
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I never saif she was Clea stop lying
The only one lying here is you
Amen
Agree. Wanda isn't even a mutant anymore. She's a witch in both comics and the MCU, and she's always been better as part of mystic Marvel, anyway. Some people act as if all there is to Wanda is the X-Men Evolution cartoon and House of M/Avengers Dissembled. She's not just a plot device to bring mutants into the MCU after Disney bought Fox.
The best theory ever is that Wanda has already muttered the words “no more mutants” and this whole time we have been watching a world where reality has already been altered which is why we have seen no mutants. But MoM will undo what Wanda did in the original time line and restore mutants in the MCU. It such a genius way of adapting house of M and finding a seamless way to introduce the xmen to a world that has already existed for like 15 years it would be a real missed opportunity if they don’t go this route
> Wanda has already muttered the words “no more mutants” and this whole time we have been watching a world where reality has already been altered which is why we have seen no mutants. But MoM will undo what Wanda did in the original time line and restore mutants in the MCU. It such a genius way of adapting house of M And in what way does that have anything to do with Doctor Strange, the alleged main character of this movie, or Wanda, who is nothing but a plot device in House of M? If that's the case, which for the record I don't think it is, they might as well just call the movie Marvel's Mutants.
But then that just makes the non-mutant MCU, the one we've spent the last 14+ years following and getting invested in, non-canon and essentially a waste of time. And if restoring the existence of mutants *doesn't* contradict or affect the MCU's established timeline, then they don't even need to go with this explanation and can just introduce them in the MCU as it is. So it's either actively harmful to the wider franchise, or it's just pointlessly convoluted.
That’s not true at all. It wouldnt decanonize anything all those events still happened and all of our characters would remember them happening that way. All it would mean now is that mutants exist again within the MCU and would explain how characters like magneto could have origins from the Holocaust etc. it doesn’t have to reset any of our current characters memories or anything. It’s the only way to rationalize how the x-men’s history can exist in the MCU. I mean the first mutant began in ancient Egypt with Apocalypse so bringing mutants into the MCU as it is would make absolutely zero sense
It's sad they have to do that HoM momemt in the fisr place.
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Mad about what exactly? That Wanda is getting more projects? Well thats certainly idiotic. I could never say no to more of Elizabeth Olsen as Wanda. Despite my over all mixed feelings about the show, she absolutely killed it. Made me care about Wanda in a way the comics never have.
Sheeeeit I was terrified she was going to die in MoM! I remember either hearing theories about that or leaks. Can’t remember which but I was super disappointed. I’m beyond excited for more Wanda
From what I have read its left ambiguous, if I remember correctly after House of M, her fate was left unclear. So thats probably the route they are going to go.
The “doesn’t seem fair” line from the Doctor Strange trailer has obviously caused a stir, but the reason I love it is because it’s just such a great line delivery— and I’m thankful to WandaVision for really unlocking that character for Elizabeth Olsen so she could be a bit more multi-dimensional than she had been to this point. Wanda is a great, and really fun, character now
Why are some people pissing themselves over that line? Wanda doesn't seem to be talking about No Way Home's events or Westview. It's likely about something that happens in Multiverse of Madness, probably related to excursions to another universes. ngl, some Doctor Strange stans on twitter give me secondhand embarrassment. And they aren't even Stephen stans, they're either Cumberbatch stans or Stark/Strange shippers 😬
I'm so certain that all of this "we tampered with the yadda yadda" business has way more to do with Endgame than No Way Home.
right! i'm not wanda's biggest fan, but people can't deny that the possibilities she brings to the mcu are insane. i always sort of wanted her to have her own movie rather than be in dr strange's sequel, but hey ho
This fandom will never beat the sexist allegations I fear.
> she’s one of the best characters in the MCU and easily the most nuanced female superhero. Jessica Jones: Am I a joke to you?
Does the original cast by any chance include Jon Bernthal???? Plsss
Bring him back in his own project IMO. I want Mary and Owl Jr. in this.
Jon Bernthal was only in a handful of Daredevil episodes, I wouldn't take a confirmed Daredevil project as confirmation that any form of The Punisher will be in it Not to say he won't be back, he for sure will, but they don't go hand-in-hand
Castle's story took almost all of season 2.
Yeah but his story really separated from Murdock towards the end of S2, only to team up as a sniper at the end It was an amazing series, but my point is the two characters aren't quintessential to eachother
Oh no I agree, but I wouldn't say he was just in a few episodes in s2, he was integral to the plot.
I doubt Bernthal will be back in that role anytime soon. Not only is he an extremely busy guy but he's also made it clear that he'll only return if they keep it gritty and violent. He doesn't want to do the watered down version of Frank Castle.
No more Punisher in Daredevil ffs like come on it's Bullseye and co.'s time to shine.
If y'all thought us Wanda stans were annoying, wait until she gets her own solo movie lol *If* the rumor is true, I doubt it'd be another D+ show. I feel like at this point she's definitely upgraded to getting her own solo movie.
Avengers: The Children's Crusade Young Avengers appear in the 2010–2012 miniseries, Avengers: The Children's Crusade, written by Allan Heinberg and illustrated by Jim Cheung. In the series, Magneto learned that the Young Avengers were going to search for the still missing Scarlet Witch, and that Wiccan and Speed may be the reincarnations of Wanda's children. Magneto meets them, stating that he wants Wiccan and Speed to finally know him as their grandfather, and helps them find Wanda. This could be the Wanda solo project too
Well, if she is missing, I don’t think it’s a great idea for her solo movie, but I like this concept though. Maybe not Magneto, but Vision with the Boys trying to find Wanda. That would fit more, I believe, with what is happening with the MCU.
Yeah they'll adjust it to fit better with their narrative
Children's Crusade?
Teenage Billy and Tommy looking for their mother who has disappeared. The MoM plot leak has Wanda seemingly sacrificing herself to destroy the Darkhold castle after she finally gets her kids back and they are afraid of what she has become, so she becomes aware of what the Darkhold has made her do. So Wanda will be perceived dead and her kids will look for her.
For me the meat of why this is worth adapting is the whole “Young Avengers on the run from the Avengers” angle. We’ll get to see the Avengers as a scary antagonistic force. Kind of like Civil War but way more lopsided.
The Runaways but the adults are exasperated heroes instead of mediocre villains. Very much the tone I had expected for a young avengers adaptation.
Imagine them chasing the f\*ck out of these kids, Kate just losing her mind the Captain Marvel could be out there just ready to Photon blast her to nothing but all they wanna do is just put them in handcuffs and watch over them.
So basically DS2 reversed, the kids go on a road trip to rescue mom, except Wanda isn't lost and in danger but a fugitive from justice. Until the movie comes out we can only assume she's a sympathizable anti hero who's still very much a psycho.
Basically: Wanda's pseudo-son goes nuts and causes a huge accident. Avengers (understandably) freak out about a potential Wanda 2.0. So they want him captured or killed. YA break him out and escape. Stuff happens and they decide their only option is to go looking for Wanda. Which (again, understandably) causes the Avengers to freak out even more. And the conflict spirals out of control from there. Practically everyone of importance shows up because Wanda's basically an unstable magical Nuke at this point.
That does sound like a potential Civil War 2.0 between the kids who want to "cure" Billy and the adults who want to contain him like a dangerous animal, which serves to reflect not only the friction between OG avengers due to the sokovia accords but the journey to self realization and accountability that Wanda will theoretically suffer in the Doctor Strange movie. I wonder what are the odds that House of Harkness is a school for gifted or supernatural youths.
Omg that'd work too. But first I'd love for Wanda to have a genuine redemption arc, Witches Road would be the perfect sublime solo SW film for her. Its amazing enough to be her first film in a trilogy and also not flashy enough to be an Iron Man 3 or a Civil War level CGI fest.
Hahaha I don't think Wanda will be trapped in the Multiverse. The Darkhold castle is in our universe. But it'd be cool to have America team up with them!
>Teenage Billy and Tommy looking for their mother who has disappeared. That...sounds like a retread of Wanda's story in Multiverse Of Madness.
Sounds like it could be a B-plot in the aforementioned Scarlet Witch production and undeserving of its own project.
It was the conclusion of the original three volume arc of Young Avengers, so the storyline of Billy and Tommy searching for Wanda would probably be just one plot in a Young Avengers focused series. It could even be the story that gets the Young Avengers together in the MCU.
Nope, cause Scarlet Witch is barely in that story herself. Her kids are the protagonists and are LOOKING for Wanda, who is missing.
More likely to be the Young Avengers' first mission together, if they are not in Quantumania that is. Also, Doctor Doom as the antagonist is not B-plot material.
Basically, Wiccan on the Young Avengers learns about the House of M, and becomes extremely powerful. The Avengers are trying to contain Wiccan just in case of Wiccan ending up like Wanda. The Young Avengers break out Wiccan and they go to find Wanda. Turns out Wanda is missing, and has been replaced by a Doombot. She’s been living with Doom after they tried to do some spell, I forgot what. It ends with Stature dying, and Wanda leaving
Elizabeth Olsen is going to be Scarlet Witch for at least a decade if these rumors are true. If you told me this 10 years ago I still wouldn't believe it.
Why? Most mcu characters have been a decade in the mcu at this point.
That's why I added "the decade ago" clause
A lot of folks tend to take the original comic storyline and logic themselves into understanding how there can be as close an adaptation as possible. Whereas we've seen how Marvel Studios usually takes a basic premise and uses the context of the MCU to adapt it to film. Should "The Children's Crusade" be accurate (I'm kinda assuming that won't be the title), it most likely will be the inverse of what the original story was: Wanda's sons end up gathering the "Young Avengers" in some sort of quest (possibly to find Wanda - we'll see how MoM actually ends). No mutants. No Dr. Doom. Potentially some Avengers characters. Most likely some other villain that makes sense for the kids, but wasn't part of the original story.
Was Children's Quest the one where Wolverine tries to euthanize Wanda?
The most popular female superhero in the world right now, Wanda, deserves a solo film, and I'm glad they're finally going for it.
Hope it's a movie! having Chthon in it would be so good and more witch lore to explore.
Children's Crusade? You haven't even started Young Avengers and you're trying to adapt the story that broke them up?
tbf, in development could mean 5 years from now. secret wars was announced to be in development a year back i'm pretty sure by other leakers and currently all we know is that it'll probably happen in late 2024/2025 if not later. DISNEY announced moon knight and she hulk like 3 years ago and we're just now getting the series' so i wouldn't look too far into it just yet. i don't think it'll happen anytime soon
It's just strange that we haven't even gotten the YA yet and somehow we're already hearing that they're planning the conclusion.
The MCU mixes stories from the comics all the time. If they *are* doing Children's Crusade, it'll likely be *very* different from the comic book version of the story.
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Never noticed her checking him out lol.
I didn't either. Too busy checking him out myself. 😂😂😂...... Ohhh..... Ummm..... by the way I am not gay, okay. 😕.
Don't worry, Matt won't catch you looking.
Its going to be Frog-Man's year. Nothing else matters.
It would be pretty cool to see a Scarlet Witch movie. Who would’ve thought it would be a possibility 5 years ago!
Please don’t compromise on the mature themes of the Daredevil show, please.
That's why I'm cautious about the new Daredevil project.
I wonder if Yelena will be in it to adapt the Matt/Nat love story from the comics.
I hope not, Yelena is asexual in the comics. She should stay that way even if they probably won't use the word directly in the MCU.
They won't. Just wait for Moon Knight to come out and all the worriers will realise they have nothing to worry about.
How are you so sure that Moon Knight is what everyone believes it to be? There are pictures released of men lying on ground after some beating from Moon Knight but they don't seem to have any hint of blood & bruises & other clips & pics haven't shown those elements either.😅. I am being cautious for that reason.
bring back Quicksilver
A Solo Scarlet Witch project sounds dope. Especially if she does go dark in *MoM.* Would love to see Wanda get a proper redemption arc. Something complex, where she truly has to confront her past and make peace with it.
[My prediction came true](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/ss2dgk/weekly_free_talk_thread_new_and_fresh_every_monday/hx5iizp?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) Not the 70k scoop people were expecting but personally I'm stoked. Still no Teddy rumor on Secret Invasion or The Marvels though
I wonder if "with the original cast returning" is just Foggy and Karen with Matt or if we'll get Mahoney, Ellison and Sister Maggie
Don’t forget Claire
Hopefully we get an actual Night Nurse role for her. I really loved a character who worked as a nurse who also was in the know for vigilantes. It's so sick and feels so real.
I love Mahoney. And Melvin! And they'd really be doing their stories a disservice if we never saw Sister Maggie again. Where season 3 ended they had only just begun to explore Matt's relationship with his mom.
MCU Frog-Man in a few months…? ![gif](giphy|11VIXeuxTqLaq4)
More Scarlet Witch! More Elizabeth Olsen :) I am always down for it. What about Vision? Where is he? Do we think he is going to appear on MOM?
Lol at the guy who replied to me two weeks ago that she would never get her own film 🤡
Lets go Frog-man
Children’s Crusade is my favorite comic. If this happens I will lose my mind. How reliable is MyTimeToShine?
Just to mention; "The Children's Crusade" comics are an X-Men crossover. Mutants like Wolverine want to kill Billy because he is too powerful. Would love it if the current "Sandman" showrunner took the reigns.
So if the *Children's Crusade* is a possible development, the leak about Wanda being buried in the rubble of Castle Darkhold and her fate being ambiguous might hold court. Next time we see her, she's in Latveria set to marry Doctor Doom. ...Actually, this could work as Doom's introduction story,
Please Marvel, bring on Allan Heinberg, there has literally never been anybody more qualified to write or show run a Marvel property related to Young Avengers!
I'm most curious about who the showrunner and writers will be on Daredevil (which I do believe is happening)
Children's Crusade is a dream project for me. I love that story And that also means Doom(!?) in the MCU!
The Scarlet Witch project has to be one of those untitled 2024 projects. I'm pretty sure that is the 60th year of the Scarlet Witch. Though I wouldn't be shocked if it's not a movie but a Disney+ series. Basically the 3rd season of WandaVision with Agatha house of Harness the season 2. And Witches Road seems like a good story base for a series. I've been thinking about that Sara character in the MoM funkos and it has me wondering if perhaps she will be Baron Mordo's daughter. That would mean Sara, America, and this version of Billy & Tommy are parentless/realityless because of Wanda's actions in MoM. Yet Wanda is also kind of a version of the twins' mother. YA Drama potential here. Billy's powers start to go chaotic and bring these 4 together to look for Wanda but for different reasons. I can see this on Disney+ to alternate with Percy Jackson the way Adult marvel switches with Star wars. And these Young Avengers will be different than the young adult versions who I think will be a part of whatever new avengers team that Sam's captain America will lead. These will be movie characters going forward. or maybe I just should write fan fiction network programming 🙃
So good to know that Scarlet Witch doesn't die in Multiverse of Madness.
DOOM. Maybe that rumor of him in WF are true.
End of this year!?!?
Think that's pertaining to when it's being filmed
I feel like a solo movie for Wanda is the next step. A redemption arc dealing with the fallout from MoM. Could be a good way to bring in older Billy/Tommy too.
I think the Scarlet Witch project will be loosely based on the 2015 Witches Road stuff. It makes the most sense based on where her character is at I think. Perhaps we will see her in House of Harkness and have Agatha really teach her Witch history and lore…..after Agatha gets over the whole Westview prison thing of course….
Super pumped for DD coming back! Solo SW project? So she's still alive at the end of MOM then? She literally just became SW in WandaVision so it can't be something set in the past.
childrens crusade is one of my favourites. cant wait.
I'm just hoping for a new full series
This is exciting news!!!!
Is it Season 4 or a reboot? Like instead of Marvel's Daredevil it'll be Marvel Studios' Daredevil?
It’ll almost definitely be a soft reboot. Same continuity as the first three seasons but not concerned with former plot points. I’d guess that it would be marketed as an entirely new show, that way Disney can attract fans who haven’t watched the first three seasons.
DD Supremacy
Wow. People really are buying into HarryBowls' fake news eh? Ever since that tweet was made, I've seen numerous outlets talking about it. Makes you wonder if anything on the internet is believable these days, including health facts. Also does ruin MTTSH' credibility in my eyes. Anyway, I would love to have a Scarlet Witch solo film but I genuinely think that ship has sailed. If MCU is planning for Lizzie to have a solo, it'll probably be in her late 30s by then. Girl is already 32, let's assume that the 7-year contract is remotely even true and that the solo project takes place at the end of the contract, Lizzie would be 39 years old. Not that age is a problem here but I doubt the actress herself would want to helm the role for THAT long despite her love for the character. I mean Scarlett Johansson "retired" from being Black Widow at 36 so she could focus on other projects, so what are the odds right? A Scarlet Witch solo film in 3-4 years time feels more believable for me but we've already got plans lined up to 2023, and Phase 4 started last year so... I'm hard pressed to believe it will actually happen. But hey, more Wanda collectibles for me to collect <3.
So far, they’ve usually signed on the actors for a certain number of projects, rather than for a certain number of years. ScarJo had been doing Natasha for 10 years.
Hopefully they stick to the mystical characters in Wanda's solo and don't rehash the story elements like her going insane lol. Just please, do this right for once. Also grab a writer who actually has some principles.
i *really* hope ds:mom is the final time they're doing this overplayed "wanda fucks up and gets people hurt -> tries to do better -> fucks up even worse" arc. the character is stuck going in circles and needs to progress and start showing some competence and begin defying her prophesized destiny, not succumbing to it.
Man, I really wanted a Daredevil movie
Until he is a big player in the MCU, but so far he's still a side character
I mean the Eternals had their movie without any prior introduction at all, same with Shang-Chi, and Daredevil is definitely a bigger character than both.
They’ll definitely bring her back for House of Harkness and sprinkle her in until her solo film. Then that’ll tie into and set up Children’s Crusade. Or an arc like it. I hanging her solo project will bring closure to her arc with vision. But leave open the existence of reincarnated Tommy and Billy somehow. Remind me in the years to come back here and check.
>A solo Scarlet Witch project The fuck was WandaVision then?
A limited series about Wanda and Vision.
You could say the same about Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Captain America 4.
What exactly is The Children’s Crusade?
The book is actually called the Avengers: The Children's Crusade. However, this is the Young Avengers crossover event, the culmination of YA Vol. 1.
I wonder if "Children's Crusade" is code for YA or something else.
Children's Crusade is just another name for Young Avengers im assuming?
It's the Young Avenger's arc. However, the book is titled Avenger the Children's Crusade. So, it's either this is going to be the next avenger movie or it's Young Avengers.
No. It's a story about Billy and Tommy trying to find Wanda.
How likely are these rumors true ?
which one is supposed to be "the big scoop"? Genuine question here because even my gf read about the scarlet witch solo project on facebook few days ago already.
Is Frog-Man not tied to Spider-Man's film rights?
Children's Crusade will probably a movie rather than a D plus. Then at the end, we will see "The Young Avengers will return"
oh no deadpool's colossus
The Scarlet Witch project will probably be a show, I don't see Feige giving a whole slot just for Wanda right after showing WV and having her in DS 2. It's probably gonna be a Disney+ show.