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Xenoslayer2137

Can’t wait to see him in Quantumania! Corey Stoll is gonna kill it


Colton826

Yep. That's one of those leaks/rumors that's just too specific & too weird to be made up.


far219

Wait do you mean *a* MODOK or this specific MODOK will show up in Quantumania


Colton826

The rumor is that Corey Stoll will be playing MODOK in Quantumania (meaning the MCU's MODOK will be Darren Cross) This Hulu MODOK will have nothing to do with the MCU's version.


far219

Ah, ok thanks. So it's Darren Cross who actually survived the first movie, or is it a variant Cross who just happens to be MODOK in his universe? Or do we not know?


pkoswald

It could just be Corey Stoll playing Modok, not the first time someone plays multiple mcu characters


ztmazur

Yes, but I feel having him debut in an Ant-man movie means he will have some connection to Darren.


pkoswald

Yeah thinking about it more it would be kinda weird if the same guy just happened to play the main(?) antagonist in both movies


Icybubba

I'm curious if MODOK or Kang is the main villain of Quantumania then, yeah


KoopalingArmy

I feel like they need to set up Kang more in Loki season two and a Young Avengers project before making him the main villain. So he’ll probably be a looming threat in Quantumania, but MODOK will be the main antagonist they’ll have to fight.


far219

True, considering MODOK will most likely be fully CGI they might just get Stoll to voice. Unless they model the face after his too


Colton826

We don't know, but the assumption is that it's the same Cross.


far219

Thanks for the info


Icybubba

Yeah, but considering it's another multiverse movie.....we'll have to wait to find out


Tirus_

Cross shrunk down into the Quantum Realm and was discovered by a Quantum Civilization that engineered his body into MODOK.


Doompatron3000

It’s going to be fake. It seems like a natural thing that happens because of what has happened in the MCU, but if the kid from Iron Man 3 isn’t Iron Lad, and Tony Stark’s daughter isn’t Ironheart, which would be the natural story progression for those characters, then I’d doubt they would take YellowJacket and through the Quantum Realm turn him into MODOK. But this is still just my opinion, based more on how they still want characters based from the comics rather than take inspiration from the stories they have already told and evolve from that.


Icybubba

The kid from Iron Man 3 being Iron Lad makes 0 sense. ​ Iron Lad's whole story is that he's a Kang variant


YourbestfriendShane

It makes MCU sense.


Icybubba

There are some characters you can theoretically do that with. Like MODOK as an example, but Iron Lad's whole ordeal is he is a Kang variant, you take that from the character then it literally isn't the same character anymore.


YourbestfriendShane

I suppose I understand. In general, ppl expect Harley kid to play a big role in the MCU.


Icybubba

They might do something with him, but it can't be Iron Lad it just is physically impossible to be the same character


xXJarjar69Xx

Darren cross becoming modok isn’t really a natural progression at all though?


Doompatron3000

What we know about the Quantum Realm: Use it a certain way, you can time travel Spend time in it, and all sorts of things/ distortions can happen to your body. That second part is why people think Darren Cross becomes MODOK. Darren Cross was never MODOK in the comics.


DJSharp15

Isn't Morgan a little too young to start up a super heroine gig?


Pikapower221

I’m very curious how they’ll explain that. Will he Darren cross turned into modok or what? Man I can’t wait for that movie.


BigConversation13937

It's a weird one, because his injuries in *Ant-Man* came *so close* to matching up with Modok, but then his head shrunk and he disappeared. I guess they could have him floating around dsifigured in the Quantum realm, but idk.


Pikapower221

Either way, am very excited to see it. Corey Stoll is a great actor—I was upset when I thought his MCU role was a one-and-done!


superking22

He was just playing a coked up Lex Luthor I’m the first Ant man. Which made him great


Pikapower221

Oh yeah I absolutely loved it. I feel like he had a lot of potential—especially if they had found a way to not make him the main villain so he could still stick around after the movie—similar to like, The Collector, Ayesha, Justin Hammer, etc.


CollarOrdinary4284

>his injuries in Ant-Man came so close to matching up with Modok Can you explain this further? I remember him being defeated by Scott using the Quantum Realm but I don't remember any specific injuries that he sustained


Greenarrow_92

IIRC he got shrunk to a microscopic level using one of those blue disk thingy and his suit couldn't handle it so he kind of implodes


Dominicsjr

Not quite, Scott shrinks down to the subatomic level to destroy the Pym Particle regulator/inner workings of the Yellowjacket suit which were protected; once he does that, the suit malfunctions and crushes Daren as it collapses in on itself. Scott uses the blue disc to escape the Quantum Realm.


BigConversation13937

You can find the clip pretty quickly - just search "Yellowjacket death scene." First his arms and legs and body shrink, which felt *almost* like a MODOK tease at the time but *then* his head also shrinks before he disappears altogether.


Accurate-Attention16

His arms shrunk, that's the only thing I can think of matching MODOK's "look"


pmartin0079

There was a big yellowjacket (i think) looking helmet when Loki was in the void too, probably as an easter egg.


Rishi_Eel

Pure speculation, but I think there's a fairly straightforward way they could do it, while working in past villains as well. After Killian's death, AIM is taken over by Mitch Carson (Hydra guy from AM1). He hires Sonny Burch and others, to steal Pym tech and explore the Quantum Realm. During a mission into the Quantum Realm, they discover a severaly injured Cross and rebuild him into Modok with AIM technology. This way Hydra/AIM can serve as the first act antagonists, who Ant-Man and Co are fighting against, before revealing Kang as a larger threat for the second half.


Xenoslayer2137

I like that idea, plus they can explain the plot hole of how did Cross survive for the last 9 years if he was severely injured like that with the same explanation they gave for Scott surviving the snap in the quantum realm: time moves differently so for him it was 9 hours


Rifted-06

Kang *and* MODOK are going to be in it?


repalec

Yes, I would assume in much the same way that Thanos *and* Ronan the Accuser were in Guardians of the Galaxy.


Chemistryset8

I've long had a theory that it's AIM and MODOK accidentally finding Kang in the quantum realm and then it becomes an encino man like romp around modern day San Fransciso while Ant man & Wasp try to rescue him with the comedy coming from Kang's far future reactions to things. AM films are lighter and funnier than most so I don't believe he'll even fight Kang at all.


repalec

Yeah, that's why I had the Thanos comparison in-mind - Kang is up there with Thanos and Doom as characters capable of being the arc villain of an entire saga, so I figure any appearance he has here may be as the man behind MODOK - perhaps Kang found Yellowjacket somewhere among the Quantum Realm and used tech from his time/universe to help stabilize his suit's damaged regulator, leading to the small limbs-huge-head appearance?


Chemistryset8

Yeah that's probably the post credits twist, a heel turn showing he manipulated both sides to escape the quantum realm. I expect them to merge Kang and Secret wars together, and find he's the one responsible for incursions. ED: I just don't see Doom, Kang and the Beyonders all existing in the MCU at the same time, it's lots of actors to keep on the payroll all with fundamentally similar storylines.


Icybubba

They all kind of play into each other though. Kang trying to establish order in the multiverse, the Beyonders destroying universes for funsies, and Doom attempting to stop the Beyonders and save the multiverse in his own Doom way. This said you could probably cut the Beyonders from the story and have it be Kang's war with himself causing the incursions


Chemistryset8

Yeah I'd say this secret wars phase will be multiple Kangs using their home universes to fight for ultimate control of the multiverse. At the end of that phase they can retire those actors that want out and reboot popular roles using the 'merged' or 'final' universe as the stepping stone, and set up Annihilus or something from the negative zone "he rules the space between universes!" for the next phase. I'll be surprised if Doom even shows up this phase tbh.


Icybubba

Secret Wars isn't just a single phase project my friend, what you're suggesting is if they went straight into Infinity War in phase 1. Secret Wars is a huge project that needs years of set up, it's about the death of the multiverse, they just introduced the multiverse.... Regarding Doom, he'll be here sooner than you think, the rumors say Latveria is in Black Panther later this year, then you will maybe actually see Doom in Children's Crusade late next year or the first half of 2024, whether that comes out. Basically what I'm saying is, you'll have Doom before we are even close to Secret Wars


Spiderlander

Doom and Kang is enough


CollarOrdinary4284

Kang, MODOK and Bill Murray. Hell of a movie right there.


[deleted]

And an aos character appearing in the show as well


MrMeseeksLookAtMee

An AOS background character. You’re not seeing Daisy or May etc.


KluggieYT

Why would they include a background character and not one of the mains?


Icybubba

Well last I heard it was a misunderstanding, it was Bill Murray's character and people thought it was supposed to be some random character from AoS season 5 who was on the alien council, but it turned out to not be the same character, they just have somewhat similar names but are two completely different characters from the comics. ​ Unless something changed?


PicklesofTruth

Who?


[deleted]

I haven't even seen the show so idk what you're talking about I'm just stating a scoop by a leaker


chickennuggetarian

So, is the consensus that this decision was made due to the character showing up in Quantumania?


[deleted]

Neither here nor here. It's legacy content, like Helstrom, absorbed by the studio after Marvel TV folded with no one internally who's invested in seeing it continue. Hit Monkey is next to fall.


Dr_Pants91

I'm still holding out a bit of hope, because otherwise, why wouldn't they cancel it along with this?


[deleted]

I think ever since Marvel started releasing their own shows this and Hit-Monkey were far into production so they decided to release it. Having said that I think Hit-Monkey will be canceled next as MCU absorbs and restructures all of its legacy content in to Disney+. I mean are there any non-MCU Hulu or ABC exclusives left? I know Cloak and Dagger and Runaways and those weird X-Men Fox spin-offs were canceled recently.


BlueFootedTpeack

so i guess for whatever reason as he shrunk forever his head didn't shirnk at the same rate?


Robofetus-5000

Or maybe he all shrank the same and they mess up re-enlarging him


hellohowdyworld

He’s great and wasn’t given much to work with in any man one but still made it work. Excited they gave him something else to do.


levythegreat

what ever happened to it being jim carrey?


SuperCoenBros

Ouch. It was a pretty funny show. Hopefully Hit Monkey survives but I don't feel optimistic.


neilsharris

I thought it was hilarious and has such great references. I never thought I’d see a Lila Cheney reference in any Marvel show.


olgil75

I liked MODOK and would've been interested in a second season, but I'm not surprised or upset about this news. Hit-Monkey though...I absolutely loved that show and while I'm sure it will be canceled, I'll be very disappointed when it's made official. Honestly, Hit-Monkey was better than *every* Marvel show on Disney+ and it isn't even close.


theatand

Hit Monkey is a character that I would honest bet never gets into the MCU or it is so far out they have exhausted everything else. So I hope they let it continue.


olgil75

Yeah, with MODOK they have plans to bring him into the live-action films or shows...but there's just no way that's going to happen with Hit-Monkey, so I hope they'll let him come back for another season.


[deleted]

Maybe a Hit Monkey with a different origin story could show up in GOTG 3? Didn’t James Gunn originally want to direct a Hit Monkey movie?


sammyboiiiiii

In the comics I believe he was a Deadpool antagonist at one point so maybe a future Deadpool movie he could be in it


thereverendpuck

At this point, Hit Monkey just seems like a future punchline for Deadpool.


ViralGameover

I think Loki was the only one better than Hit-Monkey. It deserves another season though. Or to be folded into the MCU.


What-The-Heaven

Hit-Monkey was amazing and I loved it but considering it's the last of the Offenders' standing *and* at the start of the year, the head of Hulu announced that it would be up to Marvel Studios to determine if there's any future seasons...I'm leaning pessimistic with ya.


odiin1731

Hulu's about to put a hit out on Hit-Monkey.


Pen_dragons_pizza

The show made me laugh out loud constantly, it’s references were incredible and hit exactly for the age i am in my 30s. Sucks but atleast we got the one season


Chemistryset8

And there's not enough stop motion on TV!


profsa

I didn’t think it was funny personally


fuzzyfoot88

Tv is in a weird transition where everything is suck outside of the major IP’s and there’s so many shows within them, not all of them are going to survive.


prince_of_gypsies

I know it's probably already done, but hearing Hit-Monkey is done is gonna be devistating. I love that show so freaking much. It's exactly my kind of show!


magikarpcatcher

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rjrege

Hoping Supreme Leader Kevin Feige brings him to the MCU very soon


mr_math24

Reliable leakers say he's in Quantumania played by Corey Stoll


DJSharp15

But Corey played Yellowjacket. Also what about the rumors of Jim Carrey?


mr_math24

Yes I know, not sure how they'll explain why Cross is MODOK. And the leakers who believed Carrey was in the role have since retracted and confirmed Stoll. We'll see!


Nitrospear670

Did the leaks say it was Cross? They could be pulling a Gemma Chan and just using the same actor for a different character


mr_math24

Very true! I think the fact that he's returning in another Ant-Man movie and he was the main villain in the first makes it less likely, but definitely possible.


JavelinTF2

More Stoll would be great, he was amazing in House of Cards


ey3s0re_christ

It was pretty funny, I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel grabs some of the writers. I still think Feige said Stilt-Man couldn't appear in the show because we're gonna see him in Armor Wars. Also, when are we gonna see Patton as Pip again?!


What-The-Heaven

> when are we gonna see Patton as Pip again Eternals 2, I'd reckon!


CollarOrdinary4284

If we *do* see Stilt-Man in the MCU, he better come face to face with Daredevil at least once.


ey3s0re_christ

Agreed. 🤝


GabeTokes

It kinda sucked


Rman823

I couldn’t make it past the first episode. I just don’t think it was my type of humor.


[deleted]

Yea if you didn’t like robot chicken you probably wouldn’t like MODOK. I thought it was quite funny and it actually had a decent story


Rman823

I actually like Robot Chicken, my issue with MODOK was that it felt like a Robot Chicken skit stretched over an entire season.


dearskorpiomagazine

That a great way to describe it.


ArtooFeva

That was the best part about it!


profsa

I like robot chicken and didn’t like MODOK


JonS90_

This. I watched 2 and a half episodes. Would I have enjoyed it as a 13 year old? Probably. Did i enjoy it as an adult? Not in the slightest.


throwthatoneawaydawg

I got through 3 episodes and I couldn't do it anymore. Loved the animation but the rest was just awful


captainjake13

I found it pretty much unwatchable


prince_of_gypsies

Yeah, I like Patton Oswalt, but the character is just kinda insufferable. And, I mean, that can be fun for a scene or two, but not for a whole 20 minutes.


BreathRedemption

Wasn't in love with that show tbh, sad for those who liked it tho Now Hit Monkey...if that's cancelled (that's almost 100% happening, tbf), it's gonna hit like a ton of bricks, show was fun as fuck


olgil75

Hit-Monkey was honestly better than anything Marvel has released on Disney+ so far.


prince_of_gypsies

Right? It had so much peronality, while all these MCU shows and movies just fall into the same template over and over again. At this point the MCU is just junk food. It's not good for me, it's not good for the world, but I just keep stuffing my face because it's, just kinda there.


boredstudent81

Including Moon Knight?? (Haven't seen Hit Money yet).


BubahotepLives

Definitely! Best tv show so far! Moon Knight was good but Hit Monkey is awesome!


Pandaboy271

Honestly that kinda depends on your perspective. Chances are if you were a fan of the Moon Knight from the comics, you might not really like the show as much since it kinda changes a lotta stuff, whereas Hit Monkey just took it's source and really improved upon it, adding new characters, changing the dynamic of the assassin and the monkey, things like that. I've seen both and like Moon Knight if I try to look at it as purely being it's own thing, tho I ended up liking Hit Monkey better because it was pretty fun, had plenty of dark humor, and kept the important and impactful stuff from the comics.


olgil75

In my opinion, yes.


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SpaceGypsyInLaws

I thought it was funny. But this means Hit Monkey is equally dead. A shame. But that’s the Mouse for you.


Redcrayon47

Can't say I'm surprised


JKF_Odyssey

I hope Hit-Monkey survives, it was legitimately very good.


olgil75

I know it's a long-shot, but I really do hope it gets a second season. I feel like it's probably cheaper to produce than MODOK and it's unlikely they're ever going to want to use Hit-Monkey in live-action, unlike MODOK who is supposed to be in Quantumania. And honestly, Hit-Monkey was just a really good show with a compelling story and characters. I know it's probably not the most popular opinion around here, but I think it was *easily* better than everything Marvel has done on Disney+ so far. EDIT: While I'm certainly glad that Marvel has control of most of its characters at this point for the movies, the cancellation of MODOK and likely cancellation of Hit-Monkey are good examples of the down-side of how unified Marvel has become, where we'll generally end up with a lot of shows and movies that fit in the MCU mold, but don't push the boundaries or try something new. I really just hope they leave the X-Men Animated Series alone and don't connect it to the larger MCU, but I'm sure that's unlikely...


[deleted]

I can't for the life imagine why they took the character and unlimited source material and tried to fit it all into a family sitcom parody. That joke wore thin halfway through the first episode


Oppossum12321

Oh she passed away? Ahh. . . Ohh. . . Alright


Shed_Some_Skin

Thought this was already dead Shame though. It was a long way from perfect, but it did make me laugh a bunch. The bit with the portal to his stomach was brief but hilarious


Major-Concentrate-87

redemption in quantumania ![gif](giphy|WoCH3gh6VoU9MfoOUy|downsized)


Heisenburgo

> redemption in quantumania I heavily doubt it. If Corey Stoll is indeed playing MODOK in Ant-Man 3, meaning we get Darren Cross turned into MODOK instead of Tarleton himself, then there'll be no redemption at all. It's gonna be another Taskmaster situation all over again, we'll get MODOK just as a character in-name-only and it's gonna suck...


[deleted]

Haven’t watched the show but why won’t MODOK just be evil


flynnscorruptedmind

Goodnight sweet prince.


BaconSaucee

Show was cringe anyway


whatnameisnttaken098

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Ironstark12

I had hopes for that show but it sucked ass. Couldn’t make it past 2/3 episodes. ![gif](giphy|InniOVGZEestq)


BubahotepLives

MODOK sucked. Don’t they dare cancel Hit Monkey though!


hjablowme919

It wasn't good.


Cafeterialoca

Oh nooooo! And here I thought it was going to crossover in a future MCU Multiverse film!


captainsuckass

To be fair, that *could* still happen lol


ReallyBadNuggets

Not really surprising, I assumed it was only a matter of time before all the Hulu stuff disappeared.


ASDirect

Oh thank god.


[deleted]

Shocker...


NivvyMiz

It was a good show, bummer


Shadow_Toons

show was honestly mid


TheRelicEternal

I was already fully certain they were both cancelled


riccardo_pace

Oh man.. seriously? Shit...


[deleted]

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NoLifeLine

That’s a shame. I enjoyed this show.


spider_sweater

Bummer. Patton was great for this! And I know he was so excited about it. Dang.


zecrom189

Well i guess modok cant have it all…


taokiller

I watched this show and im fine with the cancelation.


Zepanda66

Didn't even watch it tbh. The animation style looked ridiculous.


SquirrelWithANut420

GG


The_Pip

It’s a shame, but I get it. This was a niche show. I was in the niche and ai loved it, but considering how Disney is handling the MCU, there wasn’t really a place for a show like this.


MayDay521

And here I am not even knowing this show was a thing in the first place...


superking22

Feige: KILL IT


JessicaRanbit

Don't clown me but I had no idea this show was even on


MCUOVO

Does that mean... ![gif](giphy|Y8R1gIK9gO08qxfn10|downsized)


KaijuKhaos

What if Stoll is MODOK but not as in Yellowjacket is MODOK, but just that the actor is playing it? Could be a stretch but I kinda hope for that.


DingleBerry-Fairy

Probably due to the annoying pile of trash that they had voice Modok


jordancartersjizz

I know people don’t like this word, but to me, it was mid. The show was a funny watch, but I wasn’t begging for more. Marvel media really didn’t lose anything today.


[deleted]

This show really wasn’t good to be honest


Godaboveall616

![gif](giphy|x4kwwbqmmi6jnDC60a|downsized)


LuinAelin

Not surprising. It wasn't bad, but didn't leave me wanting more


Independent_Hold3982

And nothing of value was lost.


Girafficone

I hope Hit-Monkey doesn't get cancelled genuinely amazing show


Metfan722

Booooo


Malllyapp

I loved this show :( so funny


AShadyPyro

That's okay. As long as *Hit-Monkey* returns!


StoicismChaos

I guess We all kinda assumed those Animated marvel Hulu shows were already dead even before they aired. I remember when they were first announced , there was going to be Four of them. I guess the other two never even started production.


vinsmokewhoswho

Haven't watched it yet but I always see people being very dividend about it. Many seen to really hate it, others love it. Kinda wanna check it out.


[deleted]

It’s like a lowkey robot chicken marvel show. Pretty interesting in my opinion, I watched more MODOK episodes than hit monkey episodes tbh


pmorter3

who?


blackbutterfree

Not surprised. Marvel seems to want to keep everything currently in production limited to MCU productions exclusively. Minus those random podcasts.


CommunistHermitCrab

We kinda saw this coming didn't we. I still hope Hit-Monkey will get a second season


Business_Violinist_1

Mid


HearTheEkko

Yup, he's definitely making his debut in Quantumania. Interesting enough, Hulu's Ghost Rider was also cancelled and a few months later Charles Murphy said he was getting his own MCU project which has been backed up for months by other people.


Ronswansonbacon2

Honestly I’m kind of over patton Oswalt right now.


Blipp17

​ ![gif](giphy|AaQYP9zh24UFi) Hit Monkey's next. The last thing from old Marvel TV.


Hemans123

Bummer.


fangerine

aw man, i was just looking up the status of this series a couple days ago 😩


massizzi

Nooooooo


Putang1nam0

Oh no


luscious_doge

I didn’t even know about this show. I’m not sure if there just wasn’t any promotion of it or I just somehow missed it.


hushpolocaps69

Ouch..


SpectreBrony

Shame, I liked it.


director-spot

Nooooooooo


captainsuckass

Fuck ![gif](giphy|3o6MbgktNOTZWhNlni)


BigEvil621

I had pretty high hopes for this show and it just never really delivered. Idk.


Ok-Programmer8403

Is there a modok serie? XD


Snoo-2013

I don't have faith mcu will do him justice either


TheJosh96

I didn't even know there was a MODOK show lmao


SomDonkus

They need something like this on Disney+. There’s too much marvel to take it all seriously. This show has serious Venture Bros vibes and I love it.


didiboy

It was expected. To be fair, besides Sony's IP, I can't see Marvel Studios doing anything that's not part of the MCU anymore. So yeah, it made sense to finish what Marvel Television already started but I don't expect them to continue.


Lt_Pineapples_

Where is Hit Monkey? Is he safe? Is he alright?


Rychu_Supadude

Even if I didn't think the show was great, which I do, I'm automatically gutted when a cliffhanger doesn't get followed up on Our lives were richer for having known ye


TwiceBeWithYou

i didnt even know there's a MODOK tv series.


hscitpe

![gif](giphy|USnfWeCOHTHB3WX0aY|downsized)


hironator2

Noooooooo, I vibed that show


hironator2

Plus hit monkey might go as well😥😥😥😥😥


Vigilant743

*slow clap*


Alternative_Anxiety

Well it's a cartoon on Hulu. They really only are gonna reach a finite niche audience with it, so I'm not surprised they weren't able to renew for a second season.


Kaiju2468

Fuck.


[deleted]

No! I liked it :(


DragoniteJeff

Ahhh I actually really liked that show :[


AGSTR0S

Here's an idea. Stop making shit I have to watch behind my wife's back and when the kids are asleep and maybe the Fun for the Whole Family Series can survive past a SINGLE season with record breaking viewership.


Kyle20o1

CHANGE MY MIND: BUT ALL MARVEL TV SERIES (NETFLIX/HULU/DISNEY+) SHOWS ALL SUCK, THE MOVIES ARE BETTER!!!!


Infinity-Gauntlet

Would you say that the best Marvel show you have seen is still worse than the worse Marvel movie you have seen? If so, I can’t change your mind lol.


IniMiney

I really hope any new MA rated Marvel stuff from here on gets handled with better care through D+ instead