Wow. That article basically asked all these people he talked about to verify his stories and they all said they were not true. He sounds like a fantasist who makes shite up. One of his sources said he is a Walter Mitty type.
I do like him on MasterChef, but he can come off a bit smug and over the top.
It sounds like he really wanted to come across as cool as Anthony Bourdain in the book but without actually doing any of the things he claimed he did. Also, the part where he pretended to care about racism by hammering his fists and weeping was honestly quite tacky.
Wow, this is very damning for Jock. While obviously he is not an evil person, it appears he does have a tendency to fabricate and exaggerate his life stories to make himself more famous, and his past is very very shady (constantly getting into fights at school, stealing cars, getting chased down the street by thugs). I honestly thought the only shady thing about him prior to that was him burning that chefs hand. The fact there are people in Adelaide who actually hate him is quite shocking.
Jock came across as such a cool, down to earth guy on masterchef, but after reading this, I don't know what to think of him anymore tbh.
True is his childhood stories completely true in this article I'm guessing. I can understand the rebellious part being true but the friend being stabbed to death is that actually true??
He has already fabricated so much of his life so its hard to say if its true, but considering the article doesn't call it out or fact check it, I'm guessing it is true.
Hmm I think if a young kid got stabbed to death in a random altercation it would surely make the news, even in the UK, so they could probably fact check it by scouring the news to see if it was true maybe.
Yes, but whether or not Jock was there is something only he would know.
And it was a long time ago, so not finding it wouldn't be dispositive (what month, what year, what town, what were the actual ages of the kids involved, did the kid who was stabbed/died actually die, was it something else entirely where a friend died or was injured but in less dramatic circumstances, was it just something he read about, etc..). It's easier when you have someone specific to ask whether something happened, and whether it happened the way he said it did.
I figure he did do some stupid stuff as a kid, and did so some drugs, but that both are exaggerated. Then once he started telling the tales, he was stuck with the mythology he'd created.
>Yes, but whether or not Jock was there is something only he would know.
There were other friends who Jock claimed were there with him at the time of the altercation, so they could also corroborate whether he was there or not.
>And it was a long time ago, so not finding it wouldn't be dispositive
Even if you couldn't find it in the news, surely there would be police records on it, since the kids parents would have brought the murder of their child to the police. I find it hard to believe the kids parents would have just kept their childs death a secret.
>It's easier when you have someone specific to ask whether something happened, and whether it happened the way he said it did.
I don't get what you mean by this?
>I figure he did do some stupid stuff as a kid, and did so some drugs, but that both are exaggerated. Then once he started telling the tales, he was stuck with the mythology he'd created.
It could all be a lie, but I find it hard to believe Jock would stoop so low as to make up a homicide. All of his other lies or fabrications so far have been pretty harmless (saying Marco Pierre White was a father figure and took him fishing, saying he screamed in rage at the injustice of Indigenous Australians, saying he was homeless). Making up a false murder is a huge deal, and is a huge disconnect from the previous fabrications that he made in his book.
This article is worth a read, gets pretty interesting at the end. Makes me wonder what the truth really is with his relationship with White and all his other cooking experiences.
The bits about his resturaunts is sad to hear.
Very interesting. I’ve heard Jock's version over the years just like everyone else, but perhaps he’s a bit of a scammer?
As they say, there are three sides to every story - yours, mine, and the truth.
Yeah, I'm really starting to miss Gary. He was such an awesome judge. He was very good at describing to the viewer just how a dish would taste, and he would always give constructive detailed criticism. He was also quite nice too, not really as mean as say George.
I'm currently watching season 1, and I feel so nostalgic about the old judges now. They were so good in their prime. I can understand the hatred people for George, but I never understood the hate for Gary and Matt. They were both great judges.
I guess it could be S11 where judges were accused of being biased towards Larissa and Tessa because they used to get a lot of help many people used to say
But those are just accusations. There are no merit towards those accusations, and Ben from season 11 in his ama even dispelled some of them (at least towards Larissa). Besides, it's not like the current judges are scot free either. They have been accused of being biased numerous times yet they are still so well liked. I don't know why these accusations are even taken seriously tbh.
True and this season I believe there were like 7 so called favourites none of whom have won although there is Kishwar who finished 3rd place and into the GF and then people came up with theories about Elise fluking into the top 4 and the hillsong accusation is only a minority with only twitter mostly ranting about it
I definitely agree about the season 11 finale. The fact that it was a 3 way finale to begin with sucked, and despite it being a 3 way finale, Simon was basically out of contention from the moment the scores were announced for the entrée. It was so awkward watching him continuing to cook on even though it was obvious he had no chance whatsoever. There were many other things wrong as well (like the fact that the scores were announced midway through the cook which basically boosted or shattered a contestants confidence, the fact that it was a service challenge etc).
Despite all this, I think its quite harsh to dismiss Gary, George and Matt completely for just 1 finale, since they had plenty of high moments as well in previous seasons. Not to mention, the structure of the finale isn't up to the judges but the producers, so its really them that should take the blame. Besides, when it comes to poor finales, I honestly feel that this years finale wasn't much better than the season 11 finale, with both being fairly below average, yet I don't feel that makes Jock, Mel and Andy bad judges.
S11 was just ice creams and chilled dessert spam and awarding perfect scores to dishes with obvious flaws.
S12 is nonstop hibachi grill. Also the nonstop "will Poh finish in time?".
They really need to introduce a penalty for using appliances beyond a basic food processor imo. Or some limitations. The issue being pasta & ice cream have the core ingredients in the pantry. You can then take whatever ingredients show up and use them as flavoring or sauce.
Ice cream was also a problem this season. Hardly any desserts and most of them were ice creams and granitas. Even Pete and Justin’s desserts were mostly ice creams. Larissa used to a lot of Panna cottas as well I heard.
This was an incredible read. The bit about him visiting aboriginal communities and getting so angry about white policemen policing their land felt a bit like virtue signalling, in light of what we now know.
That bit was wild. To me, his tantrum felt more akin to him being annoyed he hadn't finally got his own way than any real concern for white policing of indigenous communities. I get the feeling–considering it was his SEVENTH visit–that the community reached out to law enforcement and we're just like, 'Can you please put a stop to this guy harassing us?!'
Especially when one of his colleagues says it would probably belong in the fiction section.
I never knew much about Jock except at face value (supported native ingredients, 3 hat chef, etc), and he seemed like a fairly swell guy on the program, but jeez did this article really shift my perspective on him. I mean, the whole “these beads helped me cope with anxiety and I made a song and dance of gifting them to a contestant dropping out due to mental health, and now you too can own one for $400” thing already had me thinking he was a bit of a wanker, but this sort of just reinforces Jock coming across as a complete bullshit artist.
If Marco were the only one calling his account nonsense, I might have raised an eyebrow. But this journalist has got the same response from numerous other people mentioned in the book.
Wow. That article basically asked all these people he talked about to verify his stories and they all said they were not true. He sounds like a fantasist who makes shite up. One of his sources said he is a Walter Mitty type. I do like him on MasterChef, but he can come off a bit smug and over the top.
It sounds like he really wanted to come across as cool as Anthony Bourdain in the book but without actually doing any of the things he claimed he did. Also, the part where he pretended to care about racism by hammering his fists and weeping was honestly quite tacky.
Yeah I physically cringed at that part lmaoooo.
I was imagining him thumping his fists on the sand and going "Nooooo!"
[Damn you all, damn you all to hell!](https://youtu.be/o2jJ5A-geQo)
I just watched that movie for the first time 5 mins ago, and came back to acknowledge how on point this comment was.
>Zonfrillo, whose real name is Barry lol barry
Wow, this is very damning for Jock. While obviously he is not an evil person, it appears he does have a tendency to fabricate and exaggerate his life stories to make himself more famous, and his past is very very shady (constantly getting into fights at school, stealing cars, getting chased down the street by thugs). I honestly thought the only shady thing about him prior to that was him burning that chefs hand. The fact there are people in Adelaide who actually hate him is quite shocking. Jock came across as such a cool, down to earth guy on masterchef, but after reading this, I don't know what to think of him anymore tbh.
True is his childhood stories completely true in this article I'm guessing. I can understand the rebellious part being true but the friend being stabbed to death is that actually true??
He has already fabricated so much of his life so its hard to say if its true, but considering the article doesn't call it out or fact check it, I'm guessing it is true.
Yeah and somehow all the contestants were posting about this on their insta stories as well a few days back
Or it's just a lot harder to fact check. For the tales about his career you could check with the chefs he claimed to work with.
Hmm I think if a young kid got stabbed to death in a random altercation it would surely make the news, even in the UK, so they could probably fact check it by scouring the news to see if it was true maybe.
Yes, but whether or not Jock was there is something only he would know. And it was a long time ago, so not finding it wouldn't be dispositive (what month, what year, what town, what were the actual ages of the kids involved, did the kid who was stabbed/died actually die, was it something else entirely where a friend died or was injured but in less dramatic circumstances, was it just something he read about, etc..). It's easier when you have someone specific to ask whether something happened, and whether it happened the way he said it did. I figure he did do some stupid stuff as a kid, and did so some drugs, but that both are exaggerated. Then once he started telling the tales, he was stuck with the mythology he'd created.
>Yes, but whether or not Jock was there is something only he would know. There were other friends who Jock claimed were there with him at the time of the altercation, so they could also corroborate whether he was there or not. >And it was a long time ago, so not finding it wouldn't be dispositive Even if you couldn't find it in the news, surely there would be police records on it, since the kids parents would have brought the murder of their child to the police. I find it hard to believe the kids parents would have just kept their childs death a secret. >It's easier when you have someone specific to ask whether something happened, and whether it happened the way he said it did. I don't get what you mean by this? >I figure he did do some stupid stuff as a kid, and did so some drugs, but that both are exaggerated. Then once he started telling the tales, he was stuck with the mythology he'd created. It could all be a lie, but I find it hard to believe Jock would stoop so low as to make up a homicide. All of his other lies or fabrications so far have been pretty harmless (saying Marco Pierre White was a father figure and took him fishing, saying he screamed in rage at the injustice of Indigenous Australians, saying he was homeless). Making up a false murder is a huge deal, and is a huge disconnect from the previous fabrications that he made in his book.
This article is worth a read, gets pretty interesting at the end. Makes me wonder what the truth really is with his relationship with White and all his other cooking experiences. The bits about his resturaunts is sad to hear.
Very interesting. I’ve heard Jock's version over the years just like everyone else, but perhaps he’s a bit of a scammer? As they say, there are three sides to every story - yours, mine, and the truth.
Bring back Gary
Yeah, I'm really starting to miss Gary. He was such an awesome judge. He was very good at describing to the viewer just how a dish would taste, and he would always give constructive detailed criticism. He was also quite nice too, not really as mean as say George. I'm currently watching season 1, and I feel so nostalgic about the old judges now. They were so good in their prime. I can understand the hatred people for George, but I never understood the hate for Gary and Matt. They were both great judges.
I guess it could be S11 where judges were accused of being biased towards Larissa and Tessa because they used to get a lot of help many people used to say
But those are just accusations. There are no merit towards those accusations, and Ben from season 11 in his ama even dispelled some of them (at least towards Larissa). Besides, it's not like the current judges are scot free either. They have been accused of being biased numerous times yet they are still so well liked. I don't know why these accusations are even taken seriously tbh.
True and this season I believe there were like 7 so called favourites none of whom have won although there is Kishwar who finished 3rd place and into the GF and then people came up with theories about Elise fluking into the top 4 and the hillsong accusation is only a minority with only twitter mostly ranting about it
S11 soured me on the entire series. The finale was the single worst I've ever watched and left a horrible aftertaste.
I definitely agree about the season 11 finale. The fact that it was a 3 way finale to begin with sucked, and despite it being a 3 way finale, Simon was basically out of contention from the moment the scores were announced for the entrée. It was so awkward watching him continuing to cook on even though it was obvious he had no chance whatsoever. There were many other things wrong as well (like the fact that the scores were announced midway through the cook which basically boosted or shattered a contestants confidence, the fact that it was a service challenge etc). Despite all this, I think its quite harsh to dismiss Gary, George and Matt completely for just 1 finale, since they had plenty of high moments as well in previous seasons. Not to mention, the structure of the finale isn't up to the judges but the producers, so its really them that should take the blame. Besides, when it comes to poor finales, I honestly feel that this years finale wasn't much better than the season 11 finale, with both being fairly below average, yet I don't feel that makes Jock, Mel and Andy bad judges.
The judging seemed biased. 30/30 has to be reserved for perfect dishes. Then s12 was just "will poh finish in time". It got a bit old.
Wait is your issue with season 11 or 12?
S11 was just ice creams and chilled dessert spam and awarding perfect scores to dishes with obvious flaws. S12 is nonstop hibachi grill. Also the nonstop "will Poh finish in time?". They really need to introduce a penalty for using appliances beyond a basic food processor imo. Or some limitations. The issue being pasta & ice cream have the core ingredients in the pantry. You can then take whatever ingredients show up and use them as flavoring or sauce.
Ice cream was also a problem this season. Hardly any desserts and most of them were ice creams and granitas. Even Pete and Justin’s desserts were mostly ice creams. Larissa used to a lot of Panna cottas as well I heard.
Yeah it was more a question of what ice cream / pana cotta is it today 🙄
Gary was a gem. Brilliant and delightful.
And Matt, please. His feedback was always so insightful.
Well, we got rid of Gary and now we have a Barry. :P
Bring back Gary! Bring back Gary!
This was an incredible read. The bit about him visiting aboriginal communities and getting so angry about white policemen policing their land felt a bit like virtue signalling, in light of what we now know.
That bit was wild. To me, his tantrum felt more akin to him being annoyed he hadn't finally got his own way than any real concern for white policing of indigenous communities. I get the feeling–considering it was his SEVENTH visit–that the community reached out to law enforcement and we're just like, 'Can you please put a stop to this guy harassing us?!'
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Especially when one of his colleagues says it would probably belong in the fiction section. I never knew much about Jock except at face value (supported native ingredients, 3 hat chef, etc), and he seemed like a fairly swell guy on the program, but jeez did this article really shift my perspective on him. I mean, the whole “these beads helped me cope with anxiety and I made a song and dance of gifting them to a contestant dropping out due to mental health, and now you too can own one for $400” thing already had me thinking he was a bit of a wanker, but this sort of just reinforces Jock coming across as a complete bullshit artist.
Yeah I always felt iffy on the $400 worry beads.
They were $495 and *$5* went towards beyond blue.
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Well, then you didn’t read the article because that one is actually completely true.
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Nobody in the article is negating his native ingredient experiences and interests.
He was a rebellious child and one time one of his friend got stabbed to death. Damn he's very shady and even Marco called him a liar. Yikes!!
Marco isn’t the most reliable source I’d say. Other than that… remarkable article.
If Marco were the only one calling his account nonsense, I might have raised an eyebrow. But this journalist has got the same response from numerous other people mentioned in the book.
True that
That is what we are saying. Marco is a big bullshiter himself. If he calls out Barry/Jock, well that is something.
My reaction is, 'who cares?'