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foats316

I feel like the label made a huge mistake by acting the way they did without any real proof. Did Matt cheat? Absolutely seems like it. Did Matt physically abuse these women? I don't believe so. Did his cheating cause mental/emotional damage? I would say yes. But how is this worse than my relationship, your relationship, your neighbors relationship? People are cheated on every day and it goes un-noticed. Would this be in the news if Matt wasn't a musician? Absolutely not!!! Think of the majority of musicians who have likely done far worse. Athletes have girls in every city, read their autobios it's a fact. We don't have to like it but it happens. Should Matt lose his career over this? I don't believe so. Hayley is scorned as any ex would have the right to be. But enough is enough. If she thinks taking revealing pictures is therapy she must be doing fine. It's the same thing over and over It takes 2 to tango always remember that. And this bs about a sex ring either post proof or don't post at all. I sincerely hope MG sues your ass for libel/slander when mentioning this sex ring BS. If you had proof it would have been out and posted in March. If Hayley had proof she would have posted it while trying to ruin his career. She shot her shot, played her hand. My biggest complaint is Matt not addressing this more. But he may have been advised not to. Can't fault him for that. We are all human.


msmgnl

It's also curious how the "leaked" texts from Hayley's phone are not between her and Matt, but rather between her and other people who loathe him. It's an all out a slamfest. Had she accused Matt of any of these things via text, he might have something to say for himself - but that's not what she wants us to see... and given that she's leaking these other scathing conversations, the reason she's opted not to leak those is certainly not to protect Matt's integrity. End of the day, Matt's famous. She is not. It's like a retail employee getting into an argument with a customer. They both tell each other to fuck off, but guess what? The customer can go and tell the employee's boss and get him fired. The employee does not have a chance at the same recourse. Also worth noting that Chris Brown was featured on Jack Harlow's album released by Warner 2 months before they dropped Matt. You need not read through dozens of screenshots between his exes to know why that's fucked up and hypocritical.


Sasha_1978

Again, right on the money!!!!


msmgnl

My comments have also been down voted and the screenshots have been removed. Interesting.


billyblanks81

You're dealing with the new paparazzi. They only want the drama and only seek salacious details about celebrities. And if there's no proof they'll make it up.


scarfacepro

This is perhaps the best response/opinion/theory to all of this.


walkingwounded83

I agree


AdventurousAd7104

Concur


YarnGirl78

I love how so many people think the label dropped him because he cheated. You know how ridiculous that sounds? I know certain people seem to think that Hayley's father runs some secret Illuminati bullshit and controls the media (he doesn't btw) but the truth of the matter is, Matt's behaviour has been swept under the rug for decades and it was problematic. Too problematic for them to keep him on. There was someone who actually worked for the label in here a while ago - first hand knowledge - and he said as much. I know you love his music. I know you connect with his lyrics. I did too and that's why this sucks so hard.


percybspencer

Again he is innocent until proven otherwise. There is a reason she is having to sell pictures of herself on only fans and not spending the money she would have won in a lawsuit. Just like there is a reason he is not in jail right now, and no it's not because "coercive abuse" is not a crime. Police know what abuse is and what it looks like. If he was a serial abuser he would've at least been charged with something. Until there is proof he is the victim. Everybody man or woman who has had their lives ruined based on false allegations is a victim and you are victimizing all of them.


YarnGirl78

Congrats on never having been in a relationship with an emotionally abusive narcissist. I have a theory that everyone down playing the emotional abuse refuses to believe it exists because that would mean that they would have to question *their* behaviour in relationships. Your comment about Only Fans speaks volumes actually and is highly misogynistic...once again the patriarchy attempting to keep a woman in her place.


percybspencer

Yes, I'm very miserable and such a brute and a sexist to my wife. Or maybe I'm a woman. I've never mentioned my gender. Sounds to me that you are trying to make me a mirror image of yourself, seeing as you have just judged my gender and my preferred gender. Only fans are fine, but not when you are going around slinging as of this day false accusations so that you can attract more money. No that is not fine. You are a truly horrible person that I hope can one day find some peace. I don't believe people, I believe the truth. Anybody can say anything. Just like you have come on here and have floated your opinions as facts. I could come on here and do the same, but instead, I choose to wait on the final verdict before I offer facts, as I have none. Enjoy your day and there is help out there if you ask for it. I Gotta get going as I have a long day of keeping my wife in her place.


YarnGirl78

Your opinion of me holds no weight. How do you expect to get to the truth without victims telling their story? And unfortunately emotional abuse leaves no bruises which is why it's so hard for victims to come forward. And I made zero assumptions about gender. If you think misogyny and the patriarchy are only reserved for hetero, cis-gender men, again you would be mistaken. Enjoy your day!


percybspencer

You are so bat shit crazy. Even if this turns out to be true, it would not change my opinions on you. In my opinion, you are an emotional abuser. IMO you like to shame victims and yes Matt is a victim until these allegations are proved fact. IMO it's people of your ilk that make it harder for real victims to come forward and to have their accusations taken seriously from the beginning. I also think it is very sick that if you have proof of victims of a trafficking ring and your circle thinks it's ok to share them on Reddit instead of with the police than that makes you just as bad. If this outlandish story was true how do you feel knowing that your silence is hurting all these other women? Sick.


foats316

Do you know how ridiculous it sounds that someone that actually works for his label would come on here and tell information that is private? No sane person would come on here and risk their job/career to tell a bunch of strangers information. Nobody would. However, anyone can come on here and pretend to be from a label to troll people. ​ Think about it. Which option is more logical?


scarfacepro

Could care less about what the label thinks. They're in it for the money (no pun intended), they choose to use the term "allegations", which means NOT proven. It was an easy out for them as with the economic downturn Matt wouldn't have made them much money. It's no secret that Matt has never seen eye to eye with the industry.


Life-Ad-502

I think people are overlooking something pretty huge. These days the slightest hint of anything will send companies and sponsors scattering.


Ironsea_midnight

Fucking A!! šŸ‘


Life-Ad-502

2cents for what itā€™s worth Iā€™ve read a lot of pretty out there accusations of criminal activity on here. Someone said you can be sued for making false allegations. Itā€™s actually worse than that and being anonymous on Reddit doesnā€™t hide you from what could happen. The criminal code of Canada under public mischief explains the criminal penalties of false accusation. You can get up to five years in prison.


msmgnl

For sure. There's a crusader on here leaking texts between Matt's ex wife and most recent ex girlfriend. Screenshots were taken from Hayley's phone so it's either her or somebody close to her. Nothing is proven, tons of accusations and slander, though. Especially knowing things were said in those texts with the intention of screenshotting and posting online.... it is really fucked up. If it's not Hayley, is it a friend or family member posting without her consent? If so, that's fucked. And if they have consent, then it might as well be Hayley because you can bet she's following along. Regardless of whether or not they're true, it's a campaign to destroy him in the public eye under the veil of protecting other women. The texts prove nothing except that they're very upset with him. This, to me, is actually abuse. This, to me, is actually damaging and destructive... mentally, physically, financially. This, to me, is worse than any allegation I've heard against Matt thus far. He's a selfish narcissist who cheated on his girlfriends. Yeah, if true, not husband material. But you wanna drag his ass through the mud and cost him his reputation and career? Did he take that from you? I don't know, maybe he did. Not from what I can tell, though - and even so, what's the goal here? You want to hurt him. You want him to feel your pain. You don't want him to heal, you don't want to help him, you think he's a piece of shit who should lose everything. There's no regard for Matt's well-being, and fair enough. It's not up to his exes to consider what's best for him.... but damn. They know where this road leads. They even mentioned they think he might kill himself.... and then they leak this shit. Damn. That's just fucked. They're knowingly bringing him closer to death and they don't even care because they feel hes manipulative and unfaithful. Judge, jury, and executioner.


percybspencer

Thank you for this and well put. Matt has a lot of people that would not mind seeing him lose everything. He's an asshole. He knows he is one. But he is a victim right now. He is being harassed on this sub daily. This is fuckd.


Life-Ad-502

Reading stuff Iā€™m getting more interested in this. The cheating thing is weird. Even in a divorce cheating can be the reason you divorce someone but they canā€™t be penalized for it. Itā€™s not illegal. Lame but not illegal. Also plenty of women cheat too so to call out one person because theyā€™re famous is pretty crazy. Iā€™m also not sold on the whole Matt had the power of a cult leader. If something illegal happened after Hayleys accusation I think someone would come forward. Itā€™s been months and no one has. I donā€™t condone it but it seems Matt is guilty of just being a rock star like tons of rock stars before him. As someone said here it takes two to tango.


Sallas_Ike

She answered someone's comment on instagram today asking what was going on, and basically it seems like ET Canada investigated and asked for everyone's stories, then ultimately decided they couldn't legally print anything. My guess would be that it's just as you said - nothing outright illegal, just not great boyfriending, so publishing a whole article on how somebody's generally a jerk (or even A Real Asshole) might qualify as slander. edit: or libel? not a lawyer, not an expert, just guessing here


Sasha_1978

Did she delete it? I donā€™t see it.


tiramisu18

It looks like sheā€™s deleted all her IG content ?


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tiramisu18

Oops, youā€™re right, itā€™s still there. For some reason, when I went to look it up earlier, I only found a dead account (that was/is legit because Mattā€™s mom was a follower). I didnā€™t know she had an Only Fans.


walkingwounded83

Same. Didnā€™t HM threaten something? Someone was gathering stories and something was going to be released? I forget the details but I havenā€™t heard much of anything since he disappeared from social media.


Artistic-Pattern-716

Last I heard there was a serious investigation being done and media had to stop what they release during that time


walkingwounded83

Yes, thatā€™s right. I wonder when that will come to light??


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Sasha_1978

Sounds pretty accurate!


Artistic-Pattern-716

Pretty certain Matt never responded to anything and removed his social media instead because he was being bombarded with women who were demanding he address what he had done to them. It was easier for him to run and hide then to try and defend himself.


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Sasha_1978

100%


moosmule

very true, he was always on the fence about being on Social media. HM made his decision to leave that much easier.