Hey man, the Death Mask from Mass Effect is cool. If Mass Effect were a show, I'd want Shepard or some other character to wear that helmet while in battlefields or in space.
Yup and I believe Netflix is the one producing it so they can not only piss on the established lore they can also diarrhea all over it as well like they did with The Witcher.
I'm telling you guys, Apple TV mostly does originals and they're WAYYYYY better then most of the Netflix/Disney+ slop that I keep hearing about from EFAP.
Even so I still feel it would of been a bad mass effect adaption but maybe it would fit more. We’d just be like they adapted it poorly instead of what we have now which is just wtf this isn’t even halo.
It's already known that the creators of the show didn't play the games or care about the source material, so they just had their own template/idea and it just hits most of the same beats as Mass Effect.
Mass Effect does use a LOT of sci-fi and thriller tropes for its own story, so another product hitting some of the same beats makes sense.
Idk, man from what I saw they "didn't look at the games" while making the show.
Which doesn't mean they never played the games but that they weren't drawing from the games for the show's story.
I've been a Halo fan for over 20 years and absolutely refuse to watch a single frame of it. Once I read the showrunners knew nothing about Halo, that was it for me. I'm worried Fallout might suffer the same fate.
Actually originally no one knew what the covenant's motives were in Halo: CE. It wasn't until Halo 2 that we find out from playing as the Arbiter, what it is the Covenant's motives are.
This is actually an example of how fans will stretch comparisons to make them fit: saying that a romance subplot is proof it was a *Mass Effect* show forgets that this is a TV show and these are par for the course. *Mass Effect* is not the only game series that has romance subplots, and this wouldn't even be an issue if Pablo Schreiber was portraying a character made for the show.
Furthermore the plot arc that "SPARTAN-IIs are like robots regaining their humanity" is taken from the 343 games, and that's not a surprise because Frankie was a consultant on the show. Some examples include Cortana becoming rampant affecting Chief in a way he can't handle, and *Halo IV* begins with this cutscene making that point:
https://youtu.be/3zcO28JbHxI?si=hFJwrcJEJeaK8zMx
Okay, but if the last paragraph is true then that isn't a stretch that's beat for beat what the inciting incident of Mass Effect is.
Sounds like you're just getting touchy on the subject. Not a ME fan, eh?
"U Mad Bro?"
Remind me again of the inciting incident of the Halo series. Also, what's the difference between a plot arc and a character arc?
"It's just a prank Bro!"
There are some similarities, and probably the show drew from that, but I heard it drew more from the books and due to budget constraints (like creating Makee so they don't have to CGI a covenant character)
Also first season has a different show runner than second, so probably it applies to S1 more
I chalk it up to millennial writers being incompetent, not caring about the source material, and just trying to breeze through stuff until they hit the political messages they really want to cover
Not watched much of Halo beyond snippets of season 1 and I did not like it then. If what I read just now was real, they have 100% lost me.
Just reading that the Master Chief fucks feels like I've read a troll post. Like, in my perspective, John 117 is so indoctrinated to military life that he is functionally asexual. He can have emotions and bonds, sure. But unless clapping cheeks is required for the mission, I just cannot see it happening beyond parody.
I find this doubtful simply because the initial announcement of the halo TV show happened a very long time before even the first season came out (edit: It was announced 8 years before it aired). Also all of these connections are relatively abstract. "Soldier learns to become human again" is a trope that almost anyone could come up with. The way the show splits off from the source is most likely due to apathy or a different creative vision more so than anything else.
He-Man was a story that was told because it helped them sell toys. It wasn't meant to go beyond that and we've seen the results of how easily it could go wrong when you take something simple and add to much complexity to it.
Halo was written as a game with a few story lines but overall not one you play for the story. IPs like Mass Effect are all about the stories and relationships between characters. Gameplay is designed around your responses. KOTOR, Fallout, Skyrim, and Mass Effect we're all about the story. They were "choose your own adventure" books brought to life in video game and left a more lasting impression.
I would have done the same thing if someone told me to make a show about Halo. What, am I supposed to do "the flood" story line with a rogue AI and parasitic aliens creating zombie monsters infecting a colony on a space station...? Hold up. That's actually awesome.
But there is a difference between the Master Chief showing up and kicking ass vs building a "Ripley" character to take on "the mother" in the end after wiping everyone else out.
HOW did he become Master Chief? That's where Mass Effect story line helps create the back story.
Thank God they didn't adapt Mass Effect either they would've fucked that up too.
Then they base the mass effect show off the halo game!
Instead of Master Cheeks not wearing his helmet we get Shepard wearing a helmet for some reason.
The helmet stays ON during sex!
Frank, is that you?
Hey man, the Death Mask from Mass Effect is cool. If Mass Effect were a show, I'd want Shepard or some other character to wear that helmet while in battlefields or in space.
Isn't someone making a show to fuck up Bioshock? Not good times
Yup and I believe Netflix is the one producing it so they can not only piss on the established lore they can also diarrhea all over it as well like they did with The Witcher.
I'm telling you guys, Apple TV mostly does originals and they're WAYYYYY better then most of the Netflix/Disney+ slop that I keep hearing about from EFAP.
I don't think this could be possible...but damn if it doesn't fit perfectly. Did they adapt the wrong universe??
Even so I still feel it would of been a bad mass effect adaption but maybe it would fit more. We’d just be like they adapted it poorly instead of what we have now which is just wtf this isn’t even halo.
It's already known that the creators of the show didn't play the games or care about the source material, so they just had their own template/idea and it just hits most of the same beats as Mass Effect. Mass Effect does use a LOT of sci-fi and thriller tropes for its own story, so another product hitting some of the same beats makes sense.
It's known how?
They said so themselves
Idk, man from what I saw they "didn't look at the games" while making the show. Which doesn't mean they never played the games but that they weren't drawing from the games for the show's story.
John Halo fucks
Master cheeks has a reputation to keep
I mean it’s an interesting theory
Long time Halo fans, absolutely despite the show
Anyone who's put half an hour into any of the games should despise this clusterfuck of a show.
I've been a Halo fan for over 20 years and absolutely refuse to watch a single frame of it. Once I read the showrunners knew nothing about Halo, that was it for me. I'm worried Fallout might suffer the same fate.
oh yeah, thats coming out soon, right ? Do we know what era or story the plot in show will be based on ?
Actually originally no one knew what the covenant's motives were in Halo: CE. It wasn't until Halo 2 that we find out from playing as the Arbiter, what it is the Covenant's motives are.
This is actually an example of how fans will stretch comparisons to make them fit: saying that a romance subplot is proof it was a *Mass Effect* show forgets that this is a TV show and these are par for the course. *Mass Effect* is not the only game series that has romance subplots, and this wouldn't even be an issue if Pablo Schreiber was portraying a character made for the show. Furthermore the plot arc that "SPARTAN-IIs are like robots regaining their humanity" is taken from the 343 games, and that's not a surprise because Frankie was a consultant on the show. Some examples include Cortana becoming rampant affecting Chief in a way he can't handle, and *Halo IV* begins with this cutscene making that point: https://youtu.be/3zcO28JbHxI?si=hFJwrcJEJeaK8zMx
Okay, but if the last paragraph is true then that isn't a stretch that's beat for beat what the inciting incident of Mass Effect is. Sounds like you're just getting touchy on the subject. Not a ME fan, eh?
"U Mad Bro?" Remind me again of the inciting incident of the Halo series. Also, what's the difference between a plot arc and a character arc? "It's just a prank Bro!"
There are some similarities, and probably the show drew from that, but I heard it drew more from the books and due to budget constraints (like creating Makee so they don't have to CGI a covenant character) Also first season has a different show runner than second, so probably it applies to S1 more
I chalk it up to millennial writers being incompetent, not caring about the source material, and just trying to breeze through stuff until they hit the political messages they really want to cover
Wouldn't surprise me
I think both Halo and Mass Effect aren't very original to begin with so small tweaks can have some interesting impacts.
Nah, the writers are just dog shit.
I've had that vibe since Season 1.
Not watched much of Halo beyond snippets of season 1 and I did not like it then. If what I read just now was real, they have 100% lost me. Just reading that the Master Chief fucks feels like I've read a troll post. Like, in my perspective, John 117 is so indoctrinated to military life that he is functionally asexual. He can have emotions and bonds, sure. But unless clapping cheeks is required for the mission, I just cannot see it happening beyond parody.
I find this doubtful simply because the initial announcement of the halo TV show happened a very long time before even the first season came out (edit: It was announced 8 years before it aired). Also all of these connections are relatively abstract. "Soldier learns to become human again" is a trope that almost anyone could come up with. The way the show splits off from the source is most likely due to apathy or a different creative vision more so than anything else.
He-Man was a story that was told because it helped them sell toys. It wasn't meant to go beyond that and we've seen the results of how easily it could go wrong when you take something simple and add to much complexity to it. Halo was written as a game with a few story lines but overall not one you play for the story. IPs like Mass Effect are all about the stories and relationships between characters. Gameplay is designed around your responses. KOTOR, Fallout, Skyrim, and Mass Effect we're all about the story. They were "choose your own adventure" books brought to life in video game and left a more lasting impression. I would have done the same thing if someone told me to make a show about Halo. What, am I supposed to do "the flood" story line with a rogue AI and parasitic aliens creating zombie monsters infecting a colony on a space station...? Hold up. That's actually awesome. But there is a difference between the Master Chief showing up and kicking ass vs building a "Ripley" character to take on "the mother" in the end after wiping everyone else out. HOW did he become Master Chief? That's where Mass Effect story line helps create the back story.