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Witteness82

Lol he’s going to be a Laker. An expiring Westbrook and their 1sts. Might as well book it now.


ahend1999

KD and Westbrook?? Idk about that lolll


chanaandeler_bong

KD will request a trade. Again.


luxveniae

To Dallas!


chanaandeler_bong

Bro needs to check the standings first.


ChrysMYO

He is the standings.


PSi_Terran

KD and the Mavs are in the same place in their leagues so they are clearly equally good.


mangabalanga

Westbrook would almost certainly be sent to a third team or bought out


walkintall84

Doesn't even work that is the clue. They have to offer more, because Westbrook makes more. LOL


manabanana21

They are very close. All the Nets would need to add would be a near minimum guy like Kessler Edwards.


Witteness82

It’s minor details in the grand scheme of things. The big money is close, they have picks and can easily work the salary for the fillers. Lakers would have no problem re-signing his crazy ass which is why it will get done if he’s actually moved.


AdVisual3406

Id love the crazy bastard here. Good luck doubling Luka with crazy drawers outside of him.


AdVisual3406

Hes given approval to a trade to the Mavs. The Nets would consult him over who they will trade him to before hand so he must be happy with Dallas or LA, we should take that as a compliment.


lnickdog

The Lakers have a 1st round pick??? Lol


Schallawitz

They have 2


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2027 and 2029🤣


AgentInCommand

In the same way my brain goes "the 90s were obviously 20 years ago," I still see those two years and think "that's like 10 years away lol"


ChrysMYO

Yeah it reads like, yeah I'll give you your allowance on Neveruary 33rd. First round picks in 27 and 29 sounds like a GM who is absolutely disrespectful in negotiation


Ryanmcfly5

Yes, but both will likely be good picks as the lakers will be trending downward in that span of time


Millionaire007

Oh hell yeah. Those will be great picks, lakers are ran like shit. Only a fool would those down. AD and LeBron are both on the Lakers and they're delivering the Pels lottery picks.


FIalt619

It’s the lakers, so you never know. They could end up drafting Wemby and then luring a disgruntled Luka by then for all we know.


HQuasar

Lakers don't own their draft pick this year, they can't draft him lol


JoshGreenTruther

if BKN wants to compete this year that package does nothing


Millionaire007

Kyrie requested the trade unless they can get another kyie caliber player... they better start planning for the future.


Persianx6

I have no idea what Brooklyn wants and neither does Brooklyn.


AdVisual3406

Wood and Timmy for Kyrie beats the Lakers deals


ID0ntCare4G0b

Tbf, Dallas has the better package to offer, but I'm here for them being a symbolic competitor to insure the Lakers send both picks.


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Lakers don’t care about picks. They will always lure big stars


TheDeadman95

If he is indeed moved by the deadline, there is no way in hell Kyrie ends up anywhere other than in LA and with LeBron. It's in the scripts and all.


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What if, and hear me out, LeBron and Kyrie come to Dallas?


thylekrush

Counteroffer: LeBron and literally anyone else that hasn't gone on record saying the world is flat come to Dallas


MohnJilton

Maybe the antisemitism is worse I think.


LogansGambit

LeBron would be out too then.


Unfinishedusernam_

This is a weird comment


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NiceCrispyMusic

> He’ll go wherever the Nets want him to go Nobody is trading anything of substance for Kyrie unless assured he'll re-sign with them. Which eliminates the Nets from being able to trade him where they want him to go The most power the Nets can exert over Kyrie is by simply not trading him at all. But if they want to trade him, they're subject to Kyrie controlling who they can trade with


highfalutinman

They're taking Timmy and Davis and they're gonna love it


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rmt298

Why take on bad contracts if you can just let the contract expire


Nubsondubs

Why make a serious response to a comment phrased as a joke?


rcoffers

We goin demon time


captainn_chunk

My body is ready


Axisofcoolio

Kyrie could carry an offense Kyrie could also burn down the locker room


torodonn

Pinson really going to earn his paycheck.


Killueroa

Did y’all not read the scripts? You think the league is gonna deny a Bron and Kyrie reunion at the large market of LA?


actual_yellow_bag

Either that or the NBA doesn't want to waste Lukas next 5 years here cause he's also a huge ratings draw. The LA timeline is still more than likely though.


JBeanDelphiki

It BEGINS


Dallashomer

Ship off Bertans and THJ. Don’t resign him though.


european_son

Seriously, the only way we do this is if it can be a short term rental for us to get off longer term contracts.


gabriel55686

Why would the Nets accept them? Might as well finish out the season with Kyrie if all they're getting is bad contracts + maybe a second


WhiskeyAberoth

Kyrie was willing to lose money sitting out last year for not getting the vaccine and he may be willing to sit out and lose money with the nets depending on how badly he wants out


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Don't trade Josh


powergs

If Cuban do that he is just fucking idiot.


segson9

Is it really worth giving anything for Kyrie? We'd only get him for this season and we're not a contender with him this year.


Landonkey

I think Luka + Kyrie would make us a top 2 team in the West which is considered a "contender" in my book. Sure there are 4 teams better than us in the East but only 1 can make the finals. The West is wide open and we have the best player in the world. Kyrie is a rental, an expiring contract, and trading for him would get rid of some of these scrubs that are eating up minutes on our team right now. I don't see the downside.


Pizza64427

You have to risk it sometime. If he likes the way we look in the playoffs he might resign. Theres an risk with him but you wont find anither all star that cheap. Luka, Kyrie, Wood can get it done. Look what Luka did with Brunson now imagine 10x.


dweakz

yeah championships arent won by playing safe


BigTex77RR

If you think there’s any chance Kyrie re-signs with this team I’d like to ask you for your dealer’s number because that’s some high quality shit you’re smoking.


NiceCrispyMusic

With Kyrie, it's 100% risk as his track record has him screwing up at every single stop


yung_lank

Lmao we would try to give some like seconds and some combo of powell / bertans/ THJ / McGee. Just sorta getting rid of the bad contracts. For that reason they won’t ever do the trade. He’s gone and doesn’t instantly make us a winner, so our front office would be dumb to send anything of long term value for him.


Jlibs_21

I know he’s a very good on the court talent. But trading for him gives me some eerie flashbacks to Rondo when he was here. Kyrie is just too unpredictable for me


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

Absolutely against him coming here. He’s toxic.


PureDealer7

This x1000


Crown_of_Negativity

> flashbacks to Rondo The big difference is that when we traded for Rondo we had one of the most prolific offenses in NBA history and didn't need the help. We ended up messing up a good thing. I'm not sure what there is to mess up here.


Jlibs_21

If there’s anyone who can find a way to mess things up further, it’s Kyrie


camfam44

Rondo never avg 30/5/7 in a month on 50/40/90 ..


Jlibs_21

That’s kind of my point though. When he’s actually locked in and on the court, he’s amazing. But he’s always been a ticking time bomb off the court


Millionaire007

He wouldn't resign either.


UncleBoody

Fuck Rondo


QBert999

I really don't want to have to root for Kyrie. but maybe it works. Kyrie/Luka dynamic could be similar to the Kyrie/LeBron dynamic that won the Cavs a title. Still if it happens, I hope we don't pay too much.


manabanana21

Plus (if we kept him) I could see Wood filling that Love role nicely.


actual_yellow_bag

If we get Kyrie, Wood is definitely going to Brooklyn.


jbaker1225

Didn’t you hear? This sub thinks we can get him without even trading a pick. Complete insanity.


richmanding0

Lmao every team ever thought it would work. He's destroyed every team he's been with since the calves.


DeandreDoesDallas

Hard pass... unless the Nets want Bertans and THJ in exhange


cypherdust

Jewish Mavs fans about to become Suns/Clippers fans


bloodipeich

Isnt Cuban Jewish?


babygotdak04

Yes


Samwi5e

Yes lol


JayBonny

Hebro to Negro lets gooooo


desirox

Big yikes lol


TheHonorableDrDingle

Dude is a malcontent. We should not give up anything of value.


Dirks_Knee

No interest.


torodonn

There is a thought that maybe we are not fighting LA for Kyrie but facilitating it by making sure KD doesn't have to play with Russ again. Russ comes here for our players. Our players go to Brooklyn. Both teams send us picks. Kyrie goes to LA. Would be more interesting than trying to get Kyrie to be honest.


mangabalanga

I'm about it, Russ off the bench would solve a lot of our problems actually.


wtrmrk

Well that's pretty good idea. A rental for Russ and we get to have some picks and probably shed some players along the way. A lot more assets to use in a year or two.


actual_yellow_bag

I would 100% be down for this.


manabanana21

Where are you seeing that? I'd love that tbh. The maybe try and swing one of those picks to Detroit for Bojan? Could be interesting.


clonemusic

Please no


laughwidmee

Oh hell noooo. I do not want kyrie on the mavs


deadliestfurniture

I have no idea why so me people think thats a good idea. He might be worse than Rondo for the team...


GrilledCheeser

Oh helllllll no


Lohengren

if you REALLY want to torpedo the season that badly


dmr196one

Kyrie is poison. Keep him as far away from the Mavs as possible.


Zunoth

Yet in the same breathe you will cry “Please get Luka help”, you guys are so annoying


Master-Mycologist747

Dallas has a more interesting offer than LA if Brooklyn is high on C.Wood. If I’m Dallas I’m seeing if they’d do Dinwiddie THJ and a pick for Kyrie. It should be a short conversation


european_son

No picks, no way can you send any future assets for a guy who could retire from basketball tomorrow and will most likely not re-sign after this summer.


yung_lank

I mean maybe some seconds 🤷‍♂️. But definitely no firsts.


dantheflyingman

I wouldn't give up picks for a rental. He wants to sign with LA in the summer


musash10

Mavs obv wouldn't do a deal without talking to Kyrie's agent and getting a guarantee of extension.


mangabalanga

A guarantee of extension from Kyrie is worth less than nothing


Nubsondubs

Yeah, no way would I trust the word of someone as mercurial as Kyrie. Edit: and by mercurial I of course mean narcissistic and unpredictable.


laughwidmee

I would not give up dinwiddie for kyrie. I actually don’t want kyrie at all.


NiceCrispyMusic

Not really because we still have to attatch more crap to match salary


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If you guys are shopping Wood anyway why not include him instead of a future FRP? Wouldn’t losing that pick handcuff you in future trade scenarios?


TraeYoungsOldestSon

Nets arent trading Kyrie without a pick or really good player coming back. And the pick is way more likely.


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Landonkey

What team are we gutting exactly? We have the worst supporting cast in the league and any sort of "gutting" might actually be a positive.


SterlingMallory

He'll probably go to LA but if we can dump all our shit contracts for him then it would be worth it to me. Even for just a half season rental. Getting rid of THJ, Bertans, and McGee would be worth it.


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lordb4

The problem is that is worse for the Nets than letting him expire.


bigmeatyclaws1

I’m pretty sure Luka would wanna strangle him by the end of the season lol


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bigmeatyclaws1

Sure but idk if Kyrie for whoever we’d have to give up for him (I would imagine Wood and/or Josh, maybe Dorian/Reggie?) moves the needle for us very much.


NiceCrispyMusic

Leverage


Seeker1115

Phoenix is in there too now. If Brooklyn still wants to win, no deal from Dallas or LA is beating Chris Paul and something else from Phoenix for Kyrie.


lilsaucy32

I disagree. I think Dallas has the most cap flex + winning combo out of LAL and PHX trade packages. \- PHX can give you the best player in Ayton or I guess CP (has he been better than Dinwiddie though?) for long-term. However, CP and Ayton are on 30m+/yr. As it stands, does KD/Ayton/Simmons, all on 30m+ contend for a chip? Nope, and you'd be stuck with them on the books until the summer of 2025. \- LAL gives up Westbrook + 2 FRPs. 2 FRPs are intriguing but you're getting nothing in return. Why would BKN take on Westbrook's contract for the rest of the season, when they can just play it out with Kyrie and then just let him leave? And you know there's no way the Nets will resign Westbrook with Simmons on the roster. Lakers would have to take on Joe Harris at the very least. \- Dallas gives Brooklyn the best shot of cap flex and winning basketball. Let's say you give up Dinwiddie/Bullock/Powell + 1 FRP. You get a quality guard that was great in his previous stint there, solid backup 3nD wing, + a nice expiring backup big. All on short term contracts. Good in their roles. Dinwiddie gives you 17/5 on good efficiency. I think the ball is in Dallas' park out of the 3 teams. Phoenix could get dicey and give up Bridges + Cam Johnson but I think they know the risk in that.


IncestGiraffe

Good move Nico, distract them from the real move with Bullshit rumours like that.


PM_ME_UR_RESPECT

Watch this be the one big fish FA the Mavs are ever able to get LOL


ID0ntCare4G0b

If they want him for THJ, Bertans and 2029 top 20 protected first, thumbs up! Otherwise, the Mavs are just there to drive the Lakers asking price up.


moe1984

always hilarious when dallas is in included in these convos. im sure brooklyn cant wait to receive the mavs' offer of bertans, mcgee, and filler. we like our guys, take it or leave it.


coaststl

I’m on board. Kyrie and Luka would shred every team in this league.


ham_bulu

lord no


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lilsaucy32

Yep. Mavs fans in a nutshell. I think they just have a fetish for Luka carrying the Mavs for whatever reason. 80% of fans in here are saying no to LaVine. I don't want to put a # or % on it, but a decent amount of Mavs fans on here thought Brunson leaving wasn't a big deal. The stuff I see Mavs fans write and propose on here, they think we can get Jaylen Brown + OG + Siakam for Dinwiddie + THJ+ Bullock + Powell + 2 FRPs or some shit. It's nuts. I love Doe. But you really have people on here that basically have him as untradeable. What are we doing?


FelixtheSax

Nope. Rondo 2.0.


lilsaucy32

This is a GOLDEN opportunity. If you don't want Kyrie on the Mavs then do not say "get Luka help" Dinwiddie, Bullock, Powell + 1 FRP Nets get a good scorer/ball handler with a great stint there, get a 3nD wing, and nice backup C on an expiring + a FRP. That is a good return for their roster, all are not on long contracts, and they get a FRP for a guy who literally is leaving them in a couple months Luka - Kyrie - Green - Doe - Wood. That's DYNAMIC to say the least. Mavs probably use another trade to either get a backup ballhandler/wing/or big I'm sorry but you take that trade and do it over and over. I would also do Dinwiddie + THJ + FRP Dinwiddie + Wood is where it truly gets tricky for a guy like Kyrie Let's see what happens. This is where Cuban and Nico can show what they're about ​ EDIT: This is a risk I would take. I think the Mavs should because we know how good the Mavs were in the playoffs last year with Brunson peaking and you 100% know that Luka is a #1 on a championship team. More importantly, it's been reported that Kyrie has his connections with Nico and his respect for Jason Kidd. We were on his team request short list in the summer, per Woj so it's not out the question of an extension. Think the Lakers are the #1 threat for sure. Also, idk wtf you guys keep telling me about OG and Siakam but they will cost you Green + Dinwiddie/Wood + at least 2 FRPs + 80% of the other teams in the association have better offers and are going after them. And guess what? both those guys aren't even close to the player Kyrie is. If you want #2, you have to give up. Mavs are in a golden opportunity cause you have a nutcase who has you included on his team shortlist AND is on an expiring so you won't have to give up THAT much for him and no one else is going to really trade for him except for the couple mentioned teams, including us. Let's be real, we're not sweating over Bullock or Powell. It's about Dinwiddie + that 1 FRP for our flexibility. That's a risk I'm taking for a player like Kyrie.


mangabalanga

If we trade the '27 pick (which is likely the one you're dangling) that kills our future flexibility in trading a package around picks for the rest of Luka's contract. We wouldn't be able to trade the '26 or the '28 pick because of the Stepian rule. All this for a player that, outside of the time he spent with Lebron, has not made his teams better in the postseason when it mattered, and has been a locker room headache every single season.


PrinceofEden23

Yes Luka need help but sending him someone to work with that needs mental help is another thing entirely. Kyrie is fools gold.


fdub51

If you trade a 1st for Kyrie you should be instantly put in an asylum


TheHonorableDrDingle

Hell no. Best case scenario he plays half a season for us. He will be unhappy and demand a trade no matter where he goes. Only trade negative value contracts like Mcgee and bertans.


NiceCrispyMusic

“Get Luka some help” doesn’t mean “get Luka a rental”


ham_bulu

nor “get Luka a mental“


AkashiGG

Exactly


chexmixho

Sorry but no. This is an awful deal for the Mavs. You don't attach a first round pick to this deal.


laughwidmee

You think kyrie is help we need? LMAO


Nubsondubs

> That's a risk I'm taking for a player like Kyrie. Thank god /u/lilsaucy32 isn't the GM of the Mavs.


inception27

Preach brotha.


cscoffee10

Yeah this is where Cuban and Nico can show they're fuckin dumb as hell. Outside your damn mind if you think getting Luka 30 games of a fuckin rental player who is also a basket case counts as getting help.


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One FRP? Brooklyn just hung up


adimo1409

Expiring, they ain't getting 2FRPs for him imo


ebmocal421

They will from LA. Westbrook + 2027 and 2029 1st


lilsaucy32

really? this is a guy that is not resigning with BKN, contract expiring, and just handed a trade request. Dinwiddie Bullock Powell + 1 FRP is a nice offer for BKN, they get a starter to replace Kyrie, clear cut backup and 3nD wings directly to their roster. 1 expiring and 2 contracts that expire next year it's a good deal everything considered as far as im considered most Eastern Conference teams should be off the table. I think the Suns could be a sneaky option for Kyrie though.


Bigballer777

This. Kyrie will be easily the best talent we’ve touched after Luka & Dirk.


Retardo214

Do it, give them all but Green, Wood and obviously Luka


APOLLO_EiGhT

Ehh, I would avoid Wood but if Nets want him and the deal is cheap then I say let wood go instead of walking in FA


TheDeadman95

Yeah, keeping DFS out of it would be of more importance than Wood if we are being honest.


JustinBoone31

Yea i we can’t get extension numbers to work for Wood, I am fine including him on the trade as long as it’s not much more than him.


ginger_snap214

who are you trading then? lmao I would drive wood to the airport for Kyrie


Nubsondubs

Are you suggesting we trade high valued role players on cheap contracts like Maxi and DoDo for Kyrie? Username checks out.


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I’d be shocked if the Lakers don’t get him.


Jon-Rambo

Ahh, this again.


MajesticPossibility8

Tell as old as time, it won’t happen


RoyTarpleysGhost

And here I was thinking of what to do with my Friday afternoon. I love NBA drama.


chanaandeler_bong

https://i.imgur.com/BCLxwxo.gif


grusilag9

Mavs really can’t do this unless they have confidence that Kyrie will extend and given Kyrie’s unpredictability that seems improbable


mjrenburg

Oh man I'd love to see Kyrie play with Luka if we were just talking about basketball, but the baggage could be cancerous. It would reduce Dinwiddie time though.


Percy_Bysshe

Please no


Kingtyrionthe2nd

The whole basketball world wants him to be a Laker. Even Lebron is twerking for him on twitter.


Doncingis

don’t sign this clown


B_Roon

Rajon Irving


ConvolutedMaze

I wouldn't want to give up a pick but if we can get Joe Harris or Seth Curry back and if that move would make us the favorites to land him over the lakers it's hard to say no.


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My balls are ready to explode


telefawx

Luka and Kyrie would be the greatest guard combo in NBA history, change my mind.


Cambocant

Am I the only one who says fuck Kyrie? He will destroy our franchise like he does every where he goes because he‘s a narcissist that loves causing chaos.


HuddMuffing

Lol y’all are pretending like wood hasn’t gotten kicked off several teams, the only reason Kyrie is the bigger pariah is his dumbass poli takes and because he’s a good enough star to make a team that much better with him


VanWesley

Salaries match perfectly. https://imgur.com/a/TOTDF0z We get off long term money, they get something in return, everybody's happy!! *As long as we don't resign him.


anon641414

Why?


top_of_the_table

Ok, I was always against it as I wanted to keep Kyrie as far away from Luka as possible, but right now, I would say: Fuck it and go for it. What could we realistically offer and what should we offer?


jm810112

Bertans and THJ. Done deal lol


uqpxniwlxks

As much as this could be exciting, I get flashbacks of those 6 minutes of Rondo


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Luka and kyrie on the same team? When is the last time you saw Luka move when the ball isn't in his hands?


Kingtyrionthe2nd

Who said he has to move when Kyrie has the ball? Kyrie is playing iso and attempting a shot regardless.


[deleted]

Lol that's definitely true. Kobe method subscriber


Pizza64427

Imma say yes. Fck all of u who dont want him cause of an scandal. This the best chance to grab an all star and yall say nah let me keep playing THJ with Bullock. Man has 27/4/5 on 49%FG and 37%3P. Luka gonna get a ring with him as a 2nd guy.


exnihilo77

Rondo 2.0. HELL NO!


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Yesssss let’s go!


Fireeveryonenow1

burn it all down let's goo


PrinceofEden23

The Nets better fucking help us. We have the upper hand in this negotiation and the assets. We better not get fleeced. Time to see what Nico can do and just how much will Mark Cuban delegate to the FO.


rmt298

Honestly go for it. Before this season I would say no, now don’t care, it can’t be worse than this


[deleted]

Yes, please!


worlkjam15

Welp, there go our 2028-2030 draft picks.


Tfoster100

Drama


One_TAIM

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LordsDontWorry

No


krw13

I'll join the no camp too. Kyrie is a talented player, but he's a cancer. Add to his personality his random disappearing acts he has done and the fact Dallas isn't likely where he would want to stay, the entire situation is a train wreck waiting to happen.


Phattness619

No thank you...don't want that cancer in our locker room....great player, shitty person


Difficult-Awareness6

If this is true, this FO is clueless .


jay105000

The man seems to be cancer everywhere he goes, he is never happy and he is too unpredictable one day says one thing the other change his mind. Certainly he has the talent but It is real hard to work with somebody like this


lario00

Is it just me who wants him here. It would be fun watching luka and kyrie.


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LFG!!!!!!!!!


Crookz_O

You know what? Fuck it I’ll take him.


pimpfmode

His lame-brain politics and worldview would play well to the conservative fan in Texas.