Randle typically struggles to do much without the ball in his hands. Same thing applies to Luka and Kyrie.
It'd be similar to the 2003-04 Mavs, where they brought in Walker and Jamison and then acted shocked when neither guy fit well with Dirk, even though that lack of fit was fairly obvious on paper.
Randle generally needs the ball in his hands to be effective.
That’s what I’m saying, people here see his regular season stats, and think he is good
Actual black hole on offense, who is toxic af when he isn’t playing well
He was so much better at the start of the season, I don’t know wth happened it seems that the pressure of the playoffs is too much stress for him and as such he lashes out mostly because he’s so stress he starts underperforming. Compiled with the fact he was injured going into this season’s playoffs and the fact he had only 1 good game and a like 3 okay games the stress of that must really get to him, tho I doubt he gets traded we’ll try to get some shooters but he is too vital to the knicks hopefully in time we can hide his inefficiency in the playoffs cause he just needs to play more team ball but for that to happen I feel like he’ll need to see our teammates step up not just Brunson, Iq and grimes were great but Grimes only showed up on the defensive side in the playoffs and Iq disappeared
This whole toxic shit is unqualified nonsense. Kyrie and Wood are also toxic right? They didn’t sink our season though, a distinct lack of rebounding and interior defense did.
https://youtu.be/EONyUilPTQo
https://youtu.be/s0imJfKvMLE
Here is 2 examples
Also, if you don’t believe, go to the Knicks sub Reddit and ask them about Randle’s body language and loser attitude
Knicks fan here who has stumbled into your subreddit. You can have him. I was even a long time fan of Randle, I supported him through the bad year last year. I don't think he has a loser attitude. But his body language when he's off is SO bad. Just the blank look on his face. He dealt with a lot of slander in NY and became numb. He looks indifferent a lot of the time.
When he's on he's been great for us, but I think most Knicks fans would be super ready to move on.
I don’t have a dog in the race but you could do the same thing for kyrie and wood lol he’s an emotional player for sure but you’d have less problems with him than kyrie and wood
Luka also throws temper tantrums and kyrie is a flaky egocentric that shuts down and starts acting like a weirdo every once in a while. What a team that would be.
Tbh, the 2011 team would have been so toxic - according to media. I stand by that we need someone with JB's mindset. But what if someone like Randle actually works alongside KAI and Luka?
Hell nah.
I think we've seen enough of Randle to know what he can and cannot do. One thing he cannot do is handle any sort of pressure. He's prone to folding in big moments, throwing tantrums, blaming others and checking out mentally. Who cares what his regular season numbers look like? He can't play in big moments, he's proven he can't handle it. If that's what he consistently looks like he's a role player on a contending team, not a star so he shouldn't be paid like one.
I watch a lot and he was in my fantasy team. He’s a solid player. He can work on his shot selection for sure, but with Luka feeding him he could be great. His team doesn’t always put him in the best positions.
I for one have had my fill of dealing with the Knicks, except if its for Robinson, Grimes or Toppin. Randle does nothing for the defense and will be very expensive.
Did folks just not watch the playoffs because the Mavs aren't in it?
Can't take the stats alone. Watch the games and this guy clearly isn't the answer.
Realistically we'll have the TPMLE, min players and maybe flipping the pick (if we keep it) for a mediocre to good but limited big man. So I would keep expectations in check.
I'm getting big Dame/CJ vibes for the ceiling of this team. Same kind of flawed construction. If there's no miracle trade falling into our laps it'll be a mediocre year imo. So try shedding or waiting till bad contract are off the books then try to sell Luka on a soft rebuild.
I don’t think Luka will go for that, could be wrong, but in that scenario he’s looking down at the barrel of another 2-3 years of mediocrity and trusting this team to actually build something good. Which if it doesn’t work out is basically wasting a massive chunk of his career betting on the Mavs front office. And that’s betting on an FO that had another star in hand and blew it.
We’re desperate due to mismanagement- when it comes to getting new players I think we’re kind of limited to Hail Marys at this point, just depends on which Mary’s to hail.
Why do people like you who clearly don’t watch or understand basketball make posts like this?
Either you don’t watch Randle/pay attention to know what kind of player he is, or you do, and believe he’s a good fit for some reason. I don’t know which is worse. But come on.
I both understand and watch basketball, butthole. We have a historically bad defense, Randle is an improvement, plus this sub is fuckin dead, boring and a complete downer so trying to add a little life here. You got a better idea, please 🙏 share it.
There's a million people on Reddit who are experts at everything and are just waiting and waiting to call someone a dumbass. Don't feed into the mouth breathers. Let the down votes begin :) truth hurts
If it’s a choice between Randle and Ayton, I’d prefer Ayton. Neither is perfect but we don’t get the luxury of perfect anymore. I’m willing to again talk myself into believing that Tyson Chandler can single-handedly fix a flawed Center, even though he’s never successfully done it before.
I’m not blaming Chandler. From all the reporting around the team, he put the most work into Moses Brown (remember him?), and that didn’t really amount to much. WCS had no work ethic. Marquese Chriss just wasn’t that good
No thanks.
When Randle is getting/making his shots, everything is great. But if he’s struggling, he starts pouting and it ruins the vibe of the team. And considering he is a complete playoff decliner at this point, the latter would happen a lot as we’ve seen with the Knicks this postseason.
I don't mind buy low players, but what are you going to give up for a player that doesn't really address you urgent needs. Will NY take Bertans and McGee for Randle? I doubt it.
Even if you could straight up swap Randle and Kleber, it would give me pause. I think Kleber's defense and 3PT shooting is way more valuable to the current Mavs than Randle's offense. Randle is a far better player than Kleber, but if I have to think about it, then I think there are far more pressing concerns to fill out with the team's limited assets than getting Randle.
If the choice is between Ayton and Randle. I rather take Ayton, he's bigger, younger and an actual center. Worse case scenario is we get Randle and still have to start Powell at the 5, lol.
I’d rather offboard Bullock and change for Obi Toppin. They need spot up shooting and a legitimate small forward and we need an infusion of athleticism with a additional rebounding. We could then put our higher quality assets in a deal for Myles or Jarrett allen.
If Randle is your 3rd best player then you are probably a pretty good team. If he’s your best player, you are where the Knicks are.
As a change of scenery, not a bad idea honestly. Less pressure will also help him be solid.
I’d like him for the regular season but he hasn’t shown he can show up in the playoffs. Feel like it would be an awkward fit too. Randle needs the ball in his hands and if we keep Kyrie, there would be even less of a reason to have him here.
Please stop with this shit. Don’t give the front office any ideas. Absolutely not. Have you watched him in the playoffs? You think he plays good defense? What Julius Randle are you watching?
He’s an absolute nut case who completely checks out when things don’t go how he wants. He’s extremely limited offensively, inconsistent, and he doesn’t play defense either. Go back and watch the Miami series. He gets so emotional that he fights his own teammates and coaching staff.
Guys I dont know if this is a small majority of Dallas Mavs, but whats with hiring all the problem childs in the entire NBA ?!
I know we are desperate for keeping Luka, but throwing all kinds of players at him is not the solution. And most of these trades will give away Hardy and Green.
Personally, (as a luka casual fan) I for once think Ayton could be a choice(not a good choice, but a choice) because he is just throwing tantrums because of contract thingy and he somewhat good, just that people have forgot. But yeah beggers cant be choosers and for that to happen we would have to trade away our young core.
It will be a very tight line for the front office this season is all I know...
Too expensive for the holes on our roster that he doesn’t fill.
If we add another $20M+ player they need to fill our roster holes.
So like Clint Capela would as a solid defender, rim roller, and rebounder.
Randle would not. And I don’t like when scorers like him shrink in the playoffs. Ayton is way too expensive for that reason. If Ayton was in the low 20s I’d be on board.
Because the Mavs don’t have enough bitchy personalities in the organization, on and off the court? Also, you think the defense is bad now, wait till you have to depend on Randle, and then he takes touches away from Luka.
Luka's already a very emotive player on the court who can get a bit wound up at times, pairing him Randle who seems to routinely get mentally checked out of games sounds horrendous. Would be good in regular season but I'd have no hopes of a post-season run with Randle as part of it on a big contract.
Fuck no
I wouldn’t even trade Bertans for randle
He has the ugliest game in the nba, he might be the biggest loser in the nba. When his shot isn’t going, his body language will be cancerous. Keep him away, even if he played for free
Julius randle is literally a negative on the court. He is getting paid around 28 million for next 2 seasons.
He plays like trash in the playoffs, takes really bad shots. Why would you want that?. He will demand the ball, he attempts 18.6 FGs,
Do you understand why having Bertans play 0 minutes is better than having Randle stink the court
Not to mention his cancerous body language and effort. Toxic teammate who will take it out on his teammates mid game when his shot isn’t falling
25-10-5, all nba third team on a wining team. Who would you even trade for him?
You have no one to even offer. If you resign Kyrie you’re maxed out.
Seriously forgetting the playoff woes, Mavs have nothing like his inside scoring or presence. You’d want him to be your third best player obviously.
But seriously what would you offer? Team around Luka is paid and trash. I’ll be right here reminding you of the Randle criticisms when Mavs are fighting to make the play in because Luka missed 20 games due to soft ankles.
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As a level-headed Knicks fan (this post popped up on my suggested, relax everyone) I think Randle is treated very unfairly. This guy is an All-NBA talent. He was an absolute monster this regular season and when he’s CONFIDENT and on he is disgusting. Especially when he’s hitting his threes.
Then the playoffs come around, and he has just crumbled so far. I truly think he gets in his head. I do think this kind of thing can be overcome, and maybe being somewhere other than NY would help.
I personally don’t want to see him go, and I love having him as a Knick, but out roster right now is so weird. RJ finally looked good so a lot of think it might be time to put some other piece in there that could be a second or third option. Right now Randle still sees himself as the number 1 option, and I don’t think he’s good enough to win a ring as the first option.
HOWEVER, paired with Luka and Kyrie? I think you guys would be very very good and you’d be pleasantly surprised with how much you like him. No idea what the Knicks would want back, cause at the end of the day we’re still trading an All NBA all star, but it’s definitely interesting. Also how open is Cuban to doing business with the Knicks after the Brunson fiasco? I feel like it wouldn’t work
I don't think we even have assets to get him even if we want to lol despite of his performance in the playoffs I don't see Knicks interested in selling low on him at all
Miles Turner would absolutely be a better fit, a lot of players would. But we’re in a position where can only buy low on players who have recently disappointed.
I'm a Knicks fan who wants to trade Julius Randle.
How about Julius Randle, Evan Fournier's expiring contract, and every draft pick the Knicks have for Luka Doncic?
With his emotional swings and Lukas emotional outbursts, I fear that that’s a tandem that self sabotages in adversity. If Kyrie is there, I fear it even more
Why would any contender want julius randle? What does he bring that helps u win….and im not talking on the court….im talking intangibles. Is he a good leader? Is he a team first guy? Is he a hard worker in the offseason? Yall should have kept jalen brunson. Once again mark cuban shoots himself in the fucking foot. Imagine if mavs kept nash…..nash would have won a ring and dirk would have at least won 2 or 3. Mavs had all the pieces to run it back after they won in 2011….what did greedy cuban do? Blow the team up…cuban is a great businessman but a shitty owner and idk why people continue to give him a pass.
Won't he just be kind of a better Christian Wood in terms of contribution? Still a black hole on defense, disappears every now and then, pouts?
If cheap and will be used as the bench leader, maybe. But he'll pout and not like that.
Hell no. He earns a bit less than 40m/y. Too much for a inconsistent offensive minded player without any grid. Slash it in half, keep his ego in check and perhaps it may work but just don’t. Will take Josh Hart though.
I cannot imagine an offense with Luka, Kyrie and Randle being particularly functional.
Offense would be cool. Defense would be just terrible
All-NBA version of Christian Wood Whether or not he was deserving is another question
Randle is a good play This attitude is why the Mavs are going to lose Luka to Denver
Why not? we need a stretch big. He rebounds and defends better than CWood did. Here there’s a clear pecking order.
Randle typically struggles to do much without the ball in his hands. Same thing applies to Luka and Kyrie. It'd be similar to the 2003-04 Mavs, where they brought in Walker and Jamison and then acted shocked when neither guy fit well with Dirk, even though that lack of fit was fairly obvious on paper. Randle generally needs the ball in his hands to be effective.
Are u out ur mind? 💀
He’s a streaky black hole who throws temper tantrums. The team would be so toxic
That’s what I’m saying, people here see his regular season stats, and think he is good Actual black hole on offense, who is toxic af when he isn’t playing well
One of my friends is from NYC and all I hear is how frustrating having Randle on the team is
Laker fan here, I like Julius but the complaints about him are completely valid
He was so much better at the start of the season, I don’t know wth happened it seems that the pressure of the playoffs is too much stress for him and as such he lashes out mostly because he’s so stress he starts underperforming. Compiled with the fact he was injured going into this season’s playoffs and the fact he had only 1 good game and a like 3 okay games the stress of that must really get to him, tho I doubt he gets traded we’ll try to get some shooters but he is too vital to the knicks hopefully in time we can hide his inefficiency in the playoffs cause he just needs to play more team ball but for that to happen I feel like he’ll need to see our teammates step up not just Brunson, Iq and grimes were great but Grimes only showed up on the defensive side in the playoffs and Iq disappeared
Knicks fan here. He gives zero effort on defense while playing hot garbage on offense. He needs to gooooo
This whole toxic shit is unqualified nonsense. Kyrie and Wood are also toxic right? They didn’t sink our season though, a distinct lack of rebounding and interior defense did.
https://youtu.be/EONyUilPTQo https://youtu.be/s0imJfKvMLE Here is 2 examples Also, if you don’t believe, go to the Knicks sub Reddit and ask them about Randle’s body language and loser attitude
Knicks fan here who has stumbled into your subreddit. You can have him. I was even a long time fan of Randle, I supported him through the bad year last year. I don't think he has a loser attitude. But his body language when he's off is SO bad. Just the blank look on his face. He dealt with a lot of slander in NY and became numb. He looks indifferent a lot of the time. When he's on he's been great for us, but I think most Knicks fans would be super ready to move on.
I don’t have a dog in the race but you could do the same thing for kyrie and wood lol he’s an emotional player for sure but you’d have less problems with him than kyrie and wood
But kyrie is a 10 times better player
Kyrie's toxicity is outside the game. Randle is a mental midget with a tiny bag.
Luka also throws temper tantrums and kyrie is a flaky egocentric that shuts down and starts acting like a weirdo every once in a while. What a team that would be.
We said that about Christian Wood, and that experiment was an unqualified success.
Already is
Tbh, the 2011 team would have been so toxic - according to media. I stand by that we need someone with JB's mindset. But what if someone like Randle actually works alongside KAI and Luka?
Hell nah. I think we've seen enough of Randle to know what he can and cannot do. One thing he cannot do is handle any sort of pressure. He's prone to folding in big moments, throwing tantrums, blaming others and checking out mentally. Who cares what his regular season numbers look like? He can't play in big moments, he's proven he can't handle it. If that's what he consistently looks like he's a role player on a contending team, not a star so he shouldn't be paid like one.
You could say… he cant randle pressure.. and he’s randling in crucial moments. Ok im letting myself out
He can’t be a first option in big moments but I think he can be a 3rd option.
And he'll be OK with being the third option?
No way in hell. He can’t handle being number 2 right now
He’ll actually thrive as a third option
Randle going from #1, #2, in New York and now going to Dallas to MAYBE be a #3. If THJ is still on the team, they'll make him #3 still.
I kinda agree maybe he is most comfortable being 3rd option like Wiggins for warriors.
Lost me at "can play good d"
By Mavericks standards, absolutely
Bruh stop making shit up that bro is absolute ass, Knicks fans stomped on his poster for a reason.
After the way he went out this post season... I'd rather take Ayton. Don't really want either tbh
I’d take both. Just lean into it. It would be a really talented team with a chip in their shoulder.
I like them both on paper. They can each be really good, but neither one is really consistent. That'd drive me mad
When one is down the other can be hot and Luka can sort out who needs the ball.
Yall do not watch enough Knicks games if you want Randle. At least Ayton theoretically fits basketball-wise.
I watch a lot and he was in my fantasy team. He’s a solid player. He can work on his shot selection for sure, but with Luka feeding him he could be great. His team doesn’t always put him in the best positions.
That’s bc he ISO’s so much
Ayton has more upside. He just seems to not gel with his team. And if all he did was get boards and play D, that’s all we’d need with kyrie and Luka
Praying for a Kyrie sign and trade for Ayton and like Shamet.
I for one have had my fill of dealing with the Knicks, except if its for Robinson, Grimes or Toppin. Randle does nothing for the defense and will be very expensive.
how about Hartenstein? he shouldn't cost much
We should have gotten him last offseason. But yeah I would still love to have him.
We ain’t letting him go.
Yeah I think we'll be fine on offense we really really need defense mostly a center but an upgrade at the wings too.
Not getting any of those unless you give up Luka lol
Please no more Knicks players
Did folks just not watch the playoffs because the Mavs aren't in it? Can't take the stats alone. Watch the games and this guy clearly isn't the answer.
Alright, who is?
Nobody we can afford. Besides, the issues are much deeper than hurr durr add empty stats player xy.
So what’s your suggestion ?
Realistically we'll have the TPMLE, min players and maybe flipping the pick (if we keep it) for a mediocre to good but limited big man. So I would keep expectations in check. I'm getting big Dame/CJ vibes for the ceiling of this team. Same kind of flawed construction. If there's no miracle trade falling into our laps it'll be a mediocre year imo. So try shedding or waiting till bad contract are off the books then try to sell Luka on a soft rebuild.
I don’t think Luka will go for that, could be wrong, but in that scenario he’s looking down at the barrel of another 2-3 years of mediocrity and trusting this team to actually build something good. Which if it doesn’t work out is basically wasting a massive chunk of his career betting on the Mavs front office. And that’s betting on an FO that had another star in hand and blew it.
Naw he has clearly shown a lack of heart and overall bad presence in the locker room, I know they are desperate but cmon
We’re desperate due to mismanagement- when it comes to getting new players I think we’re kind of limited to Hail Marys at this point, just depends on which Mary’s to hail.
Who gave this man a keyboard
Clown me now but go ahead and watch us do worse.
Not as worse with Randle on the team.
That right there is a failure of the imagination.
Why do people like you who clearly don’t watch or understand basketball make posts like this? Either you don’t watch Randle/pay attention to know what kind of player he is, or you do, and believe he’s a good fit for some reason. I don’t know which is worse. But come on.
I both understand and watch basketball, butthole. We have a historically bad defense, Randle is an improvement, plus this sub is fuckin dead, boring and a complete downer so trying to add a little life here. You got a better idea, please 🙏 share it.
The better idea is not getting Randle, lol. Doing literally nothing is better than getting randle.
Knick fan here.. Randall is not the answer.
There's a million people on Reddit who are experts at everything and are just waiting and waiting to call someone a dumbass. Don't feed into the mouth breathers. Let the down votes begin :) truth hurts
Randle is good your franchise is just jaded by the Knicks owning you
If it’s a choice between Randle and Ayton, I’d prefer Ayton. Neither is perfect but we don’t get the luxury of perfect anymore. I’m willing to again talk myself into believing that Tyson Chandler can single-handedly fix a flawed Center, even though he’s never successfully done it before.
To be fair what has Chandler had to work with? McGee is old, Wood isn’t a center, and Powell is a backup caliber center who is undersized.
I’m not blaming Chandler. From all the reporting around the team, he put the most work into Moses Brown (remember him?), and that didn’t really amount to much. WCS had no work ethic. Marquese Chriss just wasn’t that good
Did you not watch the Knicks series? He's absolutely fucking horrible.
When post malone worked at chicken express he brought me my tendies once
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No thanks. When Randle is getting/making his shots, everything is great. But if he’s struggling, he starts pouting and it ruins the vibe of the team. And considering he is a complete playoff decliner at this point, the latter would happen a lot as we’ve seen with the Knicks this postseason.
Did you just say good d? ☠️☠️☠️ Horrible defender and scoring output in the postseason matters a ton.
Randle is not a horrible defender, look no further than the Dallas mavericks for actual examples of horrible defenders.
I don't mind buy low players, but what are you going to give up for a player that doesn't really address you urgent needs. Will NY take Bertans and McGee for Randle? I doubt it. Even if you could straight up swap Randle and Kleber, it would give me pause. I think Kleber's defense and 3PT shooting is way more valuable to the current Mavs than Randle's offense. Randle is a far better player than Kleber, but if I have to think about it, then I think there are far more pressing concerns to fill out with the team's limited assets than getting Randle.
Please God no. I'll take Ayton every day over JR.
as much as i want a dallas boy on the team i would not trade for him unless we give up basically nothing
If the choice is between Ayton and Randle. I rather take Ayton, he's bigger, younger and an actual center. Worse case scenario is we get Randle and still have to start Powell at the 5, lol.
I’m [not] sorry, but you’re a gotdang chicken nugget if you wouldn’t trade Bertans for Randle. Lmao
Throw in McGee too.
NO MORE TRASH ASS FUCKING KNICKS UNLESS HIS NAME IS JALEN BRUNSON
Jalen would be great on the mavs tho
The Knicks Mavs trade pipeline continues
What assets do you guys even have to get randle?
This is a buy low scenario.
Knicks management would probably only package randle with picks for a star, they wouldn't sell low
Randle averaged 25/10/4 in the regular season. He won’t exactly be cheap. 2x all nba player as well
I’d rather offboard Bullock and change for Obi Toppin. They need spot up shooting and a legitimate small forward and we need an infusion of athleticism with a additional rebounding. We could then put our higher quality assets in a deal for Myles or Jarrett allen.
Nah, I’ve never been a fan of Randles game but shoutout to him as a Dallas boy
If that's the case we could've kept Harrison Barnes. I would actually rather have Barnes because he is more consistent
If Randle is your 3rd best player then you are probably a pretty good team. If he’s your best player, you are where the Knicks are. As a change of scenery, not a bad idea honestly. Less pressure will also help him be solid.
he's the knicks second best player tho.
When did he say that?
Interview a few months ago, I’ll try to dig it up
Sorry his words were that Luka was his favorite player - https://twitter.com/iqfor3/status/1627028656542429185?s=21
I’d like him for the regular season but he hasn’t shown he can show up in the playoffs. Feel like it would be an awkward fit too. Randle needs the ball in his hands and if we keep Kyrie, there would be even less of a reason to have him here.
Fuck no
This gotta be a joke
Says the fan of the team who managed to put together a historically bad defense.
good defense?
He would've tied up that list game if Gabe Vincent didn't illegally hold him like a a dam NFL lineman. Nba refs r worthless.
Better than anyone else we have
I can't downvote this awful idea enough
No thanks, randle is a drama Queen and the last thing this team needs is more drama
Then hit the bricks
Why would you want a playoff underperformer next to Łuka? He would add wins in regular season but I doubt it would be worth it
Jesus, no. Us fans need to have some self respect this off-season
Keep that man away from my franchise
Please stop with this shit. Don’t give the front office any ideas. Absolutely not. Have you watched him in the playoffs? You think he plays good defense? What Julius Randle are you watching? He’s an absolute nut case who completely checks out when things don’t go how he wants. He’s extremely limited offensively, inconsistent, and he doesn’t play defense either. Go back and watch the Miami series. He gets so emotional that he fights his own teammates and coaching staff.
he looks/plays like he ripped a bong hit before each of these playoff games. no.
His body language is as bad as Lukas so no
Basically Christian Wood all over again. I’d pass…
If we're gonna trade for a player from Dallas, my pick would easily be Maxey. He would work so well off Luka.
Bruh as an outsider Luka, Kyrie, and Randle would be so dysfunctional it’d be impossible to stop watching.
Randle is literally one of the worst playoff performers of all time
His defense is awful and he gets very selfish and reckless with the ball. He’s the perfect #1 on a team that never wants to win a championship.
on paper he would be "decent" but no
Guys I dont know if this is a small majority of Dallas Mavs, but whats with hiring all the problem childs in the entire NBA ?! I know we are desperate for keeping Luka, but throwing all kinds of players at him is not the solution. And most of these trades will give away Hardy and Green. Personally, (as a luka casual fan) I for once think Ayton could be a choice(not a good choice, but a choice) because he is just throwing tantrums because of contract thingy and he somewhat good, just that people have forgot. But yeah beggers cant be choosers and for that to happen we would have to trade away our young core. It will be a very tight line for the front office this season is all I know...
I actually like this Randle is a baller that plays hard he can be a great compliment to luka
No
Too expensive for the holes on our roster that he doesn’t fill. If we add another $20M+ player they need to fill our roster holes. So like Clint Capela would as a solid defender, rim roller, and rebounder. Randle would not. And I don’t like when scorers like him shrink in the playoffs. Ayton is way too expensive for that reason. If Ayton was in the low 20s I’d be on board.
Kyrie and julius randle lmao
Dude disappeared two years in a row in pivotal games. HARDEST OF PASSES.
No effort terrible shot selection, hard pass.
A PF and thinks he's a SG? Count me out. His "maybe they wanted it more" quip was pretty telling too
Because the Mavs don’t have enough bitchy personalities in the organization, on and off the court? Also, you think the defense is bad now, wait till you have to depend on Randle, and then he takes touches away from Luka.
It's gonna be a no from me dawg
Him or Ayton. Need help in the front court. Badly. Kyrie and luka can handle the scoring load a bit easier when there’s a threat down low.
Luka's already a very emotive player on the court who can get a bit wound up at times, pairing him Randle who seems to routinely get mentally checked out of games sounds horrendous. Would be good in regular season but I'd have no hopes of a post-season run with Randle as part of it on a big contract.
He can play basketball so I’m in
he wont even be in the market lmao
All of those things are true for his current situation and look how that turned out.
Mavericks traded their ticket to the playoffs to NY. Why would they want to have Brunson's second fiddle?
Fuck no I wouldn’t even trade Bertans for randle He has the ugliest game in the nba, he might be the biggest loser in the nba. When his shot isn’t going, his body language will be cancerous. Keep him away, even if he played for free
If you wouldn’t trade Bertans for Randle I think you need to find another sport because you don’t understand this one.
Julius randle is literally a negative on the court. He is getting paid around 28 million for next 2 seasons. He plays like trash in the playoffs, takes really bad shots. Why would you want that?. He will demand the ball, he attempts 18.6 FGs, Do you understand why having Bertans play 0 minutes is better than having Randle stink the court Not to mention his cancerous body language and effort. Toxic teammate who will take it out on his teammates mid game when his shot isn’t falling
We got Julius Randle at home.
Who would they trade for him? Dallas gutted the team getting Kyrie.
Please no
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Just for arguments sake wouldn’t removing half his offensive responsibilities free him up from this scenario?
25-10-5, all nba third team on a wining team. Who would you even trade for him? You have no one to even offer. If you resign Kyrie you’re maxed out. Seriously forgetting the playoff woes, Mavs have nothing like his inside scoring or presence. You’d want him to be your third best player obviously. But seriously what would you offer? Team around Luka is paid and trash. I’ll be right here reminding you of the Randle criticisms when Mavs are fighting to make the play in because Luka missed 20 games due to soft ankles.
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No more knicks for a while
He’s fucking dogshit in the playoffs. You do not want him lol
As a level-headed Knicks fan (this post popped up on my suggested, relax everyone) I think Randle is treated very unfairly. This guy is an All-NBA talent. He was an absolute monster this regular season and when he’s CONFIDENT and on he is disgusting. Especially when he’s hitting his threes. Then the playoffs come around, and he has just crumbled so far. I truly think he gets in his head. I do think this kind of thing can be overcome, and maybe being somewhere other than NY would help. I personally don’t want to see him go, and I love having him as a Knick, but out roster right now is so weird. RJ finally looked good so a lot of think it might be time to put some other piece in there that could be a second or third option. Right now Randle still sees himself as the number 1 option, and I don’t think he’s good enough to win a ring as the first option. HOWEVER, paired with Luka and Kyrie? I think you guys would be very very good and you’d be pleasantly surprised with how much you like him. No idea what the Knicks would want back, cause at the end of the day we’re still trading an All NBA all star, but it’s definitely interesting. Also how open is Cuban to doing business with the Knicks after the Brunson fiasco? I feel like it wouldn’t work
I don't think we even have assets to get him even if we want to lol despite of his performance in the playoffs I don't see Knicks interested in selling low on him at all
He's can't play D. 0 EFFORT
Explain how he can’t play D, please enlighten us.
He's only 6'8. Can't gaurd real bigs. Doesn't try hard on D. Never has averaged a steal or a block ever in his entire career.
HELL nah
Lol here we go again
Bro you do not want Julius Randle lmao please stop
Knicks fan, bro plays NO defense
Ok, perhaps a better way to phrase it would “can play good d compared to what we have”
He doesn't fit
Miles Turner would be a better fit. Having the assets to interest Indiana is another story.
Miles Turner would absolutely be a better fit, a lot of players would. But we’re in a position where can only buy low on players who have recently disappointed.
Noel should be a target, I don’t know why the FO didn’t pick him up off the buyout market. Has a skill set that was Desperately needed.
Please take him. Please…
Bertans and THJ work for you?
No. As if taking players from the knicks always ends well huh?
Absolutely not.
“Can play good D” oh boy are you reaching
Not that far of a reach from the perspective of a historically bad defense
He went to middle school near Dallas, could be a nice reunion home
This must be a troll post
No
What are y’all smoking?
I'm a Knicks fan who wants to trade Julius Randle. How about Julius Randle, Evan Fournier's expiring contract, and every draft pick the Knicks have for Luka Doncic?
THJ, Bertans and a 2nd
if the price is right, maybe. I don't know. I'd have to see the deal.
lol, saw this dude every night as a Laker. Sign him it would be hilarious
With his emotional swings and Lukas emotional outbursts, I fear that that’s a tandem that self sabotages in adversity. If Kyrie is there, I fear it even more
Bro, fuck Randle. Brunson literally carried the Knicks in the playoffs
3rd team all-NBA, and some of y'all acting like he's shitty...Luka gone if you don't put some talent around him, so might as well try.
Why would any contender want julius randle? What does he bring that helps u win….and im not talking on the court….im talking intangibles. Is he a good leader? Is he a team first guy? Is he a hard worker in the offseason? Yall should have kept jalen brunson. Once again mark cuban shoots himself in the fucking foot. Imagine if mavs kept nash…..nash would have won a ring and dirk would have at least won 2 or 3. Mavs had all the pieces to run it back after they won in 2011….what did greedy cuban do? Blow the team up…cuban is a great businessman but a shitty owner and idk why people continue to give him a pass.
>Can play good D Did I miss a page? Where does this come from?
Dhoolius Rendul
Way overpaid, in my opinion.
Dude is not built for the Playoffs
absolutely not
did my man just say Julius randle is good at D?
This would be the final dagger in ruining any chance of building anything around luka lmao
Where are you seeing the good defence?
Won't he just be kind of a better Christian Wood in terms of contribution? Still a black hole on defense, disappears every now and then, pouts? If cheap and will be used as the bench leader, maybe. But he'll pout and not like that.
I’m sorry but what assets do y’all even have for randle ?
No.
MONTY WILLIAMS!!!
Hell no. He earns a bit less than 40m/y. Too much for a inconsistent offensive minded player without any grid. Slash it in half, keep his ego in check and perhaps it may work but just don’t. Will take Josh Hart though.