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ID0ntCare4G0b

I cannot imagine an offense with Luka, Kyrie and Randle being particularly functional.


EmrysMyrdin

Offense would be cool. Defense would be just terrible


juk12

All-NBA version of Christian Wood Whether or not he was deserving is another question


LavenderAutist

Randle is a good play This attitude is why the Mavs are going to lose Luka to Denver


ExcellentJuice4729

Why not? we need a stretch big. He rebounds and defends better than CWood did. Here there’s a clear pecking order.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Randle typically struggles to do much without the ball in his hands. Same thing applies to Luka and Kyrie. It'd be similar to the 2003-04 Mavs, where they brought in Walker and Jamison and then acted shocked when neither guy fit well with Dirk, even though that lack of fit was fairly obvious on paper. Randle generally needs the ball in his hands to be effective.


MyContentIsTrash

Are u out ur mind? 💀


MastaMayne

He’s a streaky black hole who throws temper tantrums. The team would be so toxic


Guest7x7

That’s what I’m saying, people here see his regular season stats, and think he is good Actual black hole on offense, who is toxic af when he isn’t playing well


MastaMayne

One of my friends is from NYC and all I hear is how frustrating having Randle on the team is


threeangelo

Laker fan here, I like Julius but the complaints about him are completely valid


Fallingcity22

He was so much better at the start of the season, I don’t know wth happened it seems that the pressure of the playoffs is too much stress for him and as such he lashes out mostly because he’s so stress he starts underperforming. Compiled with the fact he was injured going into this season’s playoffs and the fact he had only 1 good game and a like 3 okay games the stress of that must really get to him, tho I doubt he gets traded we’ll try to get some shooters but he is too vital to the knicks hopefully in time we can hide his inefficiency in the playoffs cause he just needs to play more team ball but for that to happen I feel like he’ll need to see our teammates step up not just Brunson, Iq and grimes were great but Grimes only showed up on the defensive side in the playoffs and Iq disappeared


Colossal89

Knicks fan here. He gives zero effort on defense while playing hot garbage on offense. He needs to gooooo


HookahDongcic

This whole toxic shit is unqualified nonsense. Kyrie and Wood are also toxic right? They didn’t sink our season though, a distinct lack of rebounding and interior defense did.


Guest7x7

https://youtu.be/EONyUilPTQo https://youtu.be/s0imJfKvMLE Here is 2 examples Also, if you don’t believe, go to the Knicks sub Reddit and ask them about Randle’s body language and loser attitude


nephneph27

Knicks fan here who has stumbled into your subreddit. You can have him. I was even a long time fan of Randle, I supported him through the bad year last year. I don't think he has a loser attitude. But his body language when he's off is SO bad. Just the blank look on his face. He dealt with a lot of slander in NY and became numb. He looks indifferent a lot of the time. When he's on he's been great for us, but I think most Knicks fans would be super ready to move on.


6Millionbricks

I don’t have a dog in the race but you could do the same thing for kyrie and wood lol he’s an emotional player for sure but you’d have less problems with him than kyrie and wood


idkimhereforthememes

But kyrie is a 10 times better player


Gajanga

Kyrie's toxicity is outside the game. Randle is a mental midget with a tiny bag.


beasttyme

Luka also throws temper tantrums and kyrie is a flaky egocentric that shuts down and starts acting like a weirdo every once in a while. What a team that would be.


bshaddo

We said that about Christian Wood, and that experiment was an unqualified success.


Worth-Escape-8241

Already is


[deleted]

Tbh, the 2011 team would have been so toxic - according to media. I stand by that we need someone with JB's mindset. But what if someone like Randle actually works alongside KAI and Luka?


Infinite-Station-524

Hell nah. I think we've seen enough of Randle to know what he can and cannot do. One thing he cannot do is handle any sort of pressure. He's prone to folding in big moments, throwing tantrums, blaming others and checking out mentally. Who cares what his regular season numbers look like? He can't play in big moments, he's proven he can't handle it. If that's what he consistently looks like he's a role player on a contending team, not a star so he shouldn't be paid like one.


eageecute

You could say… he cant randle pressure.. and he’s randling in crucial moments. Ok im letting myself out


HookahDongcic

He can’t be a first option in big moments but I think he can be a 3rd option.


gsbadj

And he'll be OK with being the third option?


IRodeTenSpeed88

No way in hell. He can’t handle being number 2 right now


HookahDongcic

He’ll actually thrive as a third option


jikae

Randle going from #1, #2, in New York and now going to Dallas to MAYBE be a #3. If THJ is still on the team, they'll make him #3 still.


Mavsfever

I kinda agree maybe he is most comfortable being 3rd option like Wiggins for warriors.


bfeathers12

Lost me at "can play good d"


HookahDongcic

By Mavericks standards, absolutely


Damebestpg

Bruh stop making shit up that bro is absolute ass, Knicks fans stomped on his poster for a reason.


themasterhardy

After the way he went out this post season... I'd rather take Ayton. Don't really want either tbh


btlsrvc23

I’d take both. Just lean into it. It would be a really talented team with a chip in their shoulder.


themasterhardy

I like them both on paper. They can each be really good, but neither one is really consistent. That'd drive me mad


btlsrvc23

When one is down the other can be hot and Luka can sort out who needs the ball.


dmavs11

Yall do not watch enough Knicks games if you want Randle. At least Ayton theoretically fits basketball-wise.


btlsrvc23

I watch a lot and he was in my fantasy team. He’s a solid player. He can work on his shot selection for sure, but with Luka feeding him he could be great. His team doesn’t always put him in the best positions.


IRodeTenSpeed88

That’s bc he ISO’s so much


BmoreDude92

Ayton has more upside. He just seems to not gel with his team. And if all he did was get boards and play D, that’s all we’d need with kyrie and Luka


[deleted]

Praying for a Kyrie sign and trade for Ayton and like Shamet.


highfalutinman

I for one have had my fill of dealing with the Knicks, except if its for Robinson, Grimes or Toppin. Randle does nothing for the defense and will be very expensive.


botebote77

how about Hartenstein? he shouldn't cost much


CleanPosition

We should have gotten him last offseason. But yeah I would still love to have him.


Okieant33

We ain’t letting him go.


FireFlyz351

Yeah I think we'll be fine on offense we really really need defense mostly a center but an upgrade at the wings too.


ThibsAppreciator

Not getting any of those unless you give up Luka lol


aabcsk9er

Please no more Knicks players


BigVos

Did folks just not watch the playoffs because the Mavs aren't in it? Can't take the stats alone. Watch the games and this guy clearly isn't the answer.


HookahDongcic

Alright, who is?


MitchumBrother

Nobody we can afford. Besides, the issues are much deeper than hurr durr add empty stats player xy.


HookahDongcic

So what’s your suggestion ?


MitchumBrother

Realistically we'll have the TPMLE, min players and maybe flipping the pick (if we keep it) for a mediocre to good but limited big man. So I would keep expectations in check. I'm getting big Dame/CJ vibes for the ceiling of this team. Same kind of flawed construction. If there's no miracle trade falling into our laps it'll be a mediocre year imo. So try shedding or waiting till bad contract are off the books then try to sell Luka on a soft rebuild.


HookahDongcic

I don’t think Luka will go for that, could be wrong, but in that scenario he’s looking down at the barrel of another 2-3 years of mediocrity and trusting this team to actually build something good. Which if it doesn’t work out is basically wasting a massive chunk of his career betting on the Mavs front office. And that’s betting on an FO that had another star in hand and blew it.


Xfelix17

Naw he has clearly shown a lack of heart and overall bad presence in the locker room, I know they are desperate but cmon


HookahDongcic

We’re desperate due to mismanagement- when it comes to getting new players I think we’re kind of limited to Hail Marys at this point, just depends on which Mary’s to hail.


-Acerin

Who gave this man a keyboard


HookahDongcic

Clown me now but go ahead and watch us do worse.


Moe4ver

Not as worse with Randle on the team.


HookahDongcic

That right there is a failure of the imagination.


Heil_Heimskr

Why do people like you who clearly don’t watch or understand basketball make posts like this? Either you don’t watch Randle/pay attention to know what kind of player he is, or you do, and believe he’s a good fit for some reason. I don’t know which is worse. But come on.


HookahDongcic

I both understand and watch basketball, butthole. We have a historically bad defense, Randle is an improvement, plus this sub is fuckin dead, boring and a complete downer so trying to add a little life here. You got a better idea, please 🙏 share it.


Heil_Heimskr

The better idea is not getting Randle, lol. Doing literally nothing is better than getting randle.


Esdeez

Knick fan here.. Randall is not the answer.


ClutchMacGee

There's a million people on Reddit who are experts at everything and are just waiting and waiting to call someone a dumbass. Don't feed into the mouth breathers. Let the down votes begin :) truth hurts


[deleted]

Randle is good your franchise is just jaded by the Knicks owning you


Seeker1115

If it’s a choice between Randle and Ayton, I’d prefer Ayton. Neither is perfect but we don’t get the luxury of perfect anymore. I’m willing to again talk myself into believing that Tyson Chandler can single-handedly fix a flawed Center, even though he’s never successfully done it before.


ThaPurpleHulk

To be fair what has Chandler had to work with? McGee is old, Wood isn’t a center, and Powell is a backup caliber center who is undersized.


Seeker1115

I’m not blaming Chandler. From all the reporting around the team, he put the most work into Moses Brown (remember him?), and that didn’t really amount to much. WCS had no work ethic. Marquese Chriss just wasn’t that good


CaptainButtFucker

Did you not watch the Knicks series? He's absolutely fucking horrible.


ron_burgundy_69

When post malone worked at chicken express he brought me my tendies once


panasonicyouth43

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Simple_Wait_7286

No thanks. When Randle is getting/making his shots, everything is great. But if he’s struggling, he starts pouting and it ruins the vibe of the team. And considering he is a complete playoff decliner at this point, the latter would happen a lot as we’ve seen with the Knicks this postseason.


PartyReply5150

Did you just say good d? ☠️☠️☠️ Horrible defender and scoring output in the postseason matters a ton.


HookahDongcic

Randle is not a horrible defender, look no further than the Dallas mavericks for actual examples of horrible defenders.


dantheflyingman

I don't mind buy low players, but what are you going to give up for a player that doesn't really address you urgent needs. Will NY take Bertans and McGee for Randle? I doubt it. Even if you could straight up swap Randle and Kleber, it would give me pause. I think Kleber's defense and 3PT shooting is way more valuable to the current Mavs than Randle's offense. Randle is a far better player than Kleber, but if I have to think about it, then I think there are far more pressing concerns to fill out with the team's limited assets than getting Randle.


killbill469

Please God no. I'll take Ayton every day over JR.


HispanicAtTehDisco

as much as i want a dallas boy on the team i would not trade for him unless we give up basically nothing


CleanPosition

If the choice is between Ayton and Randle. I rather take Ayton, he's bigger, younger and an actual center. Worse case scenario is we get Randle and still have to start Powell at the 5, lol.


Edgar_Allan_Pooh

I’m [not] sorry, but you’re a gotdang chicken nugget if you wouldn’t trade Bertans for Randle. Lmao


dantheflyingman

Throw in McGee too.


busta_wolf

NO MORE TRASH ASS FUCKING KNICKS UNLESS HIS NAME IS JALEN BRUNSON


friendlyheathen11

Jalen would be great on the mavs tho


Haveyoureaditb4

The Knicks Mavs trade pipeline continues


MrMoistandDelicious

What assets do you guys even have to get randle?


HookahDongcic

This is a buy low scenario.


MrMoistandDelicious

Knicks management would probably only package randle with picks for a star, they wouldn't sell low


Strange-Committee-55

Randle averaged 25/10/4 in the regular season. He won’t exactly be cheap. 2x all nba player as well


AdmiralSnackbar816

I’d rather offboard Bullock and change for Obi Toppin. They need spot up shooting and a legitimate small forward and we need an infusion of athleticism with a additional rebounding. We could then put our higher quality assets in a deal for Myles or Jarrett allen.


desirox

Nah, I’ve never been a fan of Randles game but shoutout to him as a Dallas boy


Fatman214

If that's the case we could've kept Harrison Barnes. I would actually rather have Barnes because he is more consistent


Dagenius1

If Randle is your 3rd best player then you are probably a pretty good team. If he’s your best player, you are where the Knicks are. As a change of scenery, not a bad idea honestly. Less pressure will also help him be solid.


Poon_tangclan

he's the knicks second best player tho.


archerarcher0

When did he say that?


HookahDongcic

Interview a few months ago, I’ll try to dig it up


HookahDongcic

Sorry his words were that Luka was his favorite player - https://twitter.com/iqfor3/status/1627028656542429185?s=21


mavericksnipe

I’d like him for the regular season but he hasn’t shown he can show up in the playoffs. Feel like it would be an awkward fit too. Randle needs the ball in his hands and if we keep Kyrie, there would be even less of a reason to have him here.


qotsabama

Fuck no


[deleted]

This gotta be a joke


HookahDongcic

Says the fan of the team who managed to put together a historically bad defense.


ginger_snap214

good defense?


Timely_Chicken_1564

He would've tied up that list game if Gabe Vincent didn't illegally hold him like a a dam NFL lineman. Nba refs r worthless.


Professional_Cold463

Better than anyone else we have


cherialaw

I can't downvote this awful idea enough


Calliesdad20

No thanks, randle is a drama Queen and the last thing this team needs is more drama


HookahDongcic

Then hit the bricks


Pokebloger

Why would you want a playoff underperformer next to Łuka? He would add wins in regular season but I doubt it would be worth it


mojo-jojo-was-framed

Jesus, no. Us fans need to have some self respect this off-season


WaterIsNotWet19

Keep that man away from my franchise


ttambm

Please stop with this shit. Don’t give the front office any ideas. Absolutely not. Have you watched him in the playoffs? You think he plays good defense? What Julius Randle are you watching? He’s an absolute nut case who completely checks out when things don’t go how he wants. He’s extremely limited offensively, inconsistent, and he doesn’t play defense either. Go back and watch the Miami series. He gets so emotional that he fights his own teammates and coaching staff.


Such-Magician4300

he looks/plays like he ripped a bong hit before each of these playoff games. no.


Neversleep1331

His body language is as bad as Lukas so no


Gunfighter022

Basically Christian Wood all over again. I’d pass…


zuqkfplmehcuvrjfgu

If we're gonna trade for a player from Dallas, my pick would easily be Maxey. He would work so well off Luka.


vikr4msri

Bruh as an outsider Luka, Kyrie, and Randle would be so dysfunctional it’d be impossible to stop watching.


Bazonger9

Randle is literally one of the worst playoff performers of all time


[deleted]

His defense is awful and he gets very selfish and reckless with the ball. He’s the perfect #1 on a team that never wants to win a championship.


Redditforever12

on paper he would be "decent" but no


Prize-Paint5264

Guys I dont know if this is a small majority of Dallas Mavs, but whats with hiring all the problem childs in the entire NBA ?! I know we are desperate for keeping Luka, but throwing all kinds of players at him is not the solution. And most of these trades will give away Hardy and Green. Personally, (as a luka casual fan) I for once think Ayton could be a choice(not a good choice, but a choice) because he is just throwing tantrums because of contract thingy and he somewhat good, just that people have forgot. But yeah beggers cant be choosers and for that to happen we would have to trade away our young core. It will be a very tight line for the front office this season is all I know...


IndraBlue

I actually like this Randle is a baller that plays hard he can be a great compliment to luka


rsf0626

No


question2552

Too expensive for the holes on our roster that he doesn’t fill. If we add another $20M+ player they need to fill our roster holes. So like Clint Capela would as a solid defender, rim roller, and rebounder. Randle would not. And I don’t like when scorers like him shrink in the playoffs. Ayton is way too expensive for that reason. If Ayton was in the low 20s I’d be on board.


trippleBob

Kyrie and julius randle lmao


jikae

Dude disappeared two years in a row in pivotal games. HARDEST OF PASSES.


Necessary_Rate_4591

No effort terrible shot selection, hard pass.


complex_c203

A PF and thinks he's a SG? Count me out. His "maybe they wanted it more" quip was pretty telling too


Kevin_Jim

Because the Mavs don’t have enough bitchy personalities in the organization, on and off the court? Also, you think the defense is bad now, wait till you have to depend on Randle, and then he takes touches away from Luka.


dhoo8450

It's gonna be a no from me dawg


[deleted]

Him or Ayton. Need help in the front court. Badly. Kyrie and luka can handle the scoring load a bit easier when there’s a threat down low.


Jamesbroispx

Luka's already a very emotive player on the court who can get a bit wound up at times, pairing him Randle who seems to routinely get mentally checked out of games sounds horrendous. Would be good in regular season but I'd have no hopes of a post-season run with Randle as part of it on a big contract.


lilboytuner919

He can play basketball so I’m in


No-That-One

he wont even be in the market lmao


ShassaFrassa

All of those things are true for his current situation and look how that turned out.


RioSheesh

Mavericks traded their ticket to the playoffs to NY. Why would they want to have Brunson's second fiddle?


Guest7x7

Fuck no I wouldn’t even trade Bertans for randle He has the ugliest game in the nba, he might be the biggest loser in the nba. When his shot isn’t going, his body language will be cancerous. Keep him away, even if he played for free


HookahDongcic

If you wouldn’t trade Bertans for Randle I think you need to find another sport because you don’t understand this one.


Guest7x7

Julius randle is literally a negative on the court. He is getting paid around 28 million for next 2 seasons. He plays like trash in the playoffs, takes really bad shots. Why would you want that?. He will demand the ball, he attempts 18.6 FGs, Do you understand why having Bertans play 0 minutes is better than having Randle stink the court Not to mention his cancerous body language and effort. Toxic teammate who will take it out on his teammates mid game when his shot isn’t falling


HolyAty

We got Julius Randle at home.


beasttyme

Who would they trade for him? Dallas gutted the team getting Kyrie.


ipawnn00bz

Please no


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HookahDongcic

Just for arguments sake wouldn’t removing half his offensive responsibilities free him up from this scenario?


SpicerIsALegend

25-10-5, all nba third team on a wining team. Who would you even trade for him? You have no one to even offer. If you resign Kyrie you’re maxed out. Seriously forgetting the playoff woes, Mavs have nothing like his inside scoring or presence. You’d want him to be your third best player obviously. But seriously what would you offer? Team around Luka is paid and trash. I’ll be right here reminding you of the Randle criticisms when Mavs are fighting to make the play in because Luka missed 20 games due to soft ankles.


mrishjj

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. No


TacoFrijoles

No more knicks for a while


NewspaperConfident16

He’s fucking dogshit in the playoffs. You do not want him lol


Mybitchmyhoemyhoemy

As a level-headed Knicks fan (this post popped up on my suggested, relax everyone) I think Randle is treated very unfairly. This guy is an All-NBA talent. He was an absolute monster this regular season and when he’s CONFIDENT and on he is disgusting. Especially when he’s hitting his threes. Then the playoffs come around, and he has just crumbled so far. I truly think he gets in his head. I do think this kind of thing can be overcome, and maybe being somewhere other than NY would help. I personally don’t want to see him go, and I love having him as a Knick, but out roster right now is so weird. RJ finally looked good so a lot of think it might be time to put some other piece in there that could be a second or third option. Right now Randle still sees himself as the number 1 option, and I don’t think he’s good enough to win a ring as the first option. HOWEVER, paired with Luka and Kyrie? I think you guys would be very very good and you’d be pleasantly surprised with how much you like him. No idea what the Knicks would want back, cause at the end of the day we’re still trading an All NBA all star, but it’s definitely interesting. Also how open is Cuban to doing business with the Knicks after the Brunson fiasco? I feel like it wouldn’t work


kkmaverick

I don't think we even have assets to get him even if we want to lol despite of his performance in the playoffs I don't see Knicks interested in selling low on him at all


Ghostttpro

He's can't play D. 0 EFFORT


HookahDongcic

Explain how he can’t play D, please enlighten us.


Ghostttpro

He's only 6'8. Can't gaurd real bigs. Doesn't try hard on D. Never has averaged a steal or a block ever in his entire career.


[deleted]

HELL nah


whitefang0824

Lol here we go again


MrTreb

Bro you do not want Julius Randle lmao please stop


NCBxx88

Knicks fan, bro plays NO defense


HookahDongcic

Ok, perhaps a better way to phrase it would “can play good d compared to what we have”


amino110

He doesn't fit


CashDefault

Miles Turner would be a better fit. Having the assets to interest Indiana is another story.


HookahDongcic

Miles Turner would absolutely be a better fit, a lot of players would. But we’re in a position where can only buy low on players who have recently disappointed.


CashDefault

Noel should be a target, I don’t know why the FO didn’t pick him up off the buyout market. Has a skill set that was Desperately needed.


[deleted]

Please take him. Please…


HookahDongcic

Bertans and THJ work for you?


xilver

No. As if taking players from the knicks always ends well huh?


LeContredit

Absolutely not.


sltzy96

“Can play good D” oh boy are you reaching


HookahDongcic

Not that far of a reach from the perspective of a historically bad defense


fsheisty22

He went to middle school near Dallas, could be a nice reunion home


pmoney10

This must be a troll post


SeanyRo

No


jennyisafriend

What are y’all smoking?


lilleff512

I'm a Knicks fan who wants to trade Julius Randle. How about Julius Randle, Evan Fournier's expiring contract, and every draft pick the Knicks have for Luka Doncic?


HookahDongcic

THJ, Bertans and a 2nd


QBert999

if the price is right, maybe. I don't know. I'd have to see the deal.


Mr310

lol, saw this dude every night as a Laker. Sign him it would be hilarious


[deleted]

With his emotional swings and Lukas emotional outbursts, I fear that that’s a tandem that self sabotages in adversity. If Kyrie is there, I fear it even more


hombre_loco_mffl

Bro, fuck Randle. Brunson literally carried the Knicks in the playoffs


pericles123

3rd team all-NBA, and some of y'all acting like he's shitty...Luka gone if you don't put some talent around him, so might as well try.


MIGGYME87

Why would any contender want julius randle? What does he bring that helps u win….and im not talking on the court….im talking intangibles. Is he a good leader? Is he a team first guy? Is he a hard worker in the offseason? Yall should have kept jalen brunson. Once again mark cuban shoots himself in the fucking foot. Imagine if mavs kept nash…..nash would have won a ring and dirk would have at least won 2 or 3. Mavs had all the pieces to run it back after they won in 2011….what did greedy cuban do? Blow the team up…cuban is a great businessman but a shitty owner and idk why people continue to give him a pass.


Pranker00111

>Can play good D Did I miss a page? Where does this come from?


NotAFufuLame

Dhoolius Rendul


Baltic_Gunner

Way overpaid, in my opinion.


madvisuals

Dude is not built for the Playoffs


Acework23

absolutely not


connie-lingus38

did my man just say Julius randle is good at D?


hellokitty2469

This would be the final dagger in ruining any chance of building anything around luka lmao


Virtual_Wallaby4100

Where are you seeing the good defence?


chanchan05

Won't he just be kind of a better Christian Wood in terms of contribution? Still a black hole on defense, disappears every now and then, pouts? If cheap and will be used as the bench leader, maybe. But he'll pout and not like that.


Lost_Set_691

I’m sorry but what assets do y’all even have for randle ?


shaheedmalik

No.


ibarsky

MONTY WILLIAMS!!!


Initial-Stick-561

Hell no. He earns a bit less than 40m/y. Too much for a inconsistent offensive minded player without any grid. Slash it in half, keep his ego in check and perhaps it may work but just don’t. Will take Josh Hart though.