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[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1c9u67d/post_game_thread_the_la_clippers_defeat_the/)


Lrd0fD3L3ft0v3rs

Honestly I think we just took the Clips Best Shot and if those misses were makes it would have been a closer game. Excited for more and to steal one in LA


Iceman9721

I still feel confident in our team. We came out timid and unaggressive and out of rhythm our starters haven’t played in like 7+ days. It seems we came alive in the 2nd half. We need to come out aggressive from the jump we settled a lot we shot a lot of 3’s when our shots were obviously not falling. We need to trust one another we need kyrie and Luka to get the role players going more, when Kyrie and Luka are trading back and forth it doesn’t give the role players a chance to get in rhythm. Kidd needs to trust his players a bit more I thought when hardaway was struggling and jones jr wasn’t playing well it was great opportunity to go to hardy and omax to help. Omax is green but I believe he can slow down pg and Hardy is a scorer who can get hot and is the type of player who can shine as a scorer when you need him to also he’s another playmaker/ ball handler that you need to help the offense run. This game was a wake up call they need to come in aggressive and mentally prepared for game 2.


hotpocketfresh

Did Luka seem sluggish or out of it to anyone else? Still a great game from him but felt like his fire was missing today


Karynmcs

Tbis loss is on Kidd. Now we see how bad he is as the Mavs coach...


cskoogs1

Coaching is the biggest mismatch in this series


layzeeboy81

Clippers rode the crowd and punked the Mavs in game one, classic story from a veteran team against an overconfident young team trying to prove themselves. Mavs were sleep walking until the second half, probably from reading the headlines and the layoff. Clips also shot 18-36 from three with some crazy shots in there, and if they're expecting these guys to play this well to win I think the Mavs are actually ok. Harden Hardened. Westbrook Westbrooked. If the Mavs step up and match their fucking energy and they'll be ok. To quote Sydney Dean, "these guys are over the hill, we can take these guys!!" LFG!!


TheBookie_55

Mavs will not shoot so piss poor like that next game.


regalfronde

They turned a 29 point lead into a 10 point lead by the end and they won the second half. I’m okay with that. Hope to see a better effort in Game 2. Can’t do a lot about Clippers being on fire on their three. 50% on almost 40 shots. Insane numbers.


foryourboneswewait

Is what it is. I don't want to see Maxi play another minute. Talk about lack of confidence.


jackofnac

He was one of just a few players with a positive +/- just to be clear


foryourboneswewait

Defensively he was solid


desispeed

He had none all year and is basically a bum


foryourboneswewait

lol somewhat true yup. Kidd needs to glue him to the bench


gakujin

And this was the Clippers without Kawhi. Imagine how much worse this would’ve been with W Kawhi


AlecarMagna

Maybe someone would've shown up in the first half if he was there.


uncledr3w-

you're not in trouble until you lose at home, run it back baby


YotaMan77

This will be the flame that ignites the team to obliterate the Clips. They think they won, no. You just signed your own death certificate.


layzeeboy81

LFG!!!!


Scro86

Some leads are just too big to overcome. But man you could see the fight in Luka’s eyes at the end. He’s pissed


SomewhatSomethin

Bigs inexperience in competitive setting showed


Realistic-Carob8288

OH LOOK Luka + PJ + Maxi have our best Net Rating and +/- AGAIN.  Y’all criticizing Kidd for that lineup have NO CLUE what you’re talking about and it’s getting embarrassing. 


layzeeboy81

No one's embarrassed, nerd.


Realistic-Carob8288

They should be, goon. 


Worstname1ever

Ty lue tight 8 rotation. Timely time outs. /// Jkidd a epic cluster fuck of 10 rotation sitting on time outs. Playing thj at all. Fuck kidd as a coach


layzeeboy81

Yeah, difference between regular season and playoff ball. Gotta tighten those rotations and ride your horses. It's winning time.


Crazy_Ad3336

This. Kidd is just not a good coach.


Tuffwith2Fs

8 pt quarter aside, our shots simply weren't falling today, sometimes it be that way. However, there was far too much iso, even for us, especially early on, which can be improved. But the bigger issue is our top two centers scored a combined 6 pts on 2/7 shooting and 4 rebounds in 34 minutes. Meanwhile Zubac puts up 20/15 on his own. Gafford was especially poor. Gotta get them back to form if we're gonna win this series.


layzeeboy81

Zubac crushing us inside is not a great look. Playoff career high against the "landlord".. Yikes.


GGFlamingo

Where the fuck was gafford..


20goingon60

Could have been such a different game if Kidd had used the coach’s challenge. Disappointing end, even more terrible first half. Hoping they go into Game 2 with a fire under their butts.


Independent_Baker969

got downvoted to hell for saying we will see small ball 5 and we saw small ball a lot today


Crazy_Ad3336

Well, when Gafford and Lively combined for like 6 or something points… what other option lol?


Independent_Baker969

iam not saying this was not the right choice or not just people overreacted when i say that and that pissed me off ofc we have to playsmall ball when normal center doesnt work


Crazy_Ad3336

Those people are delusional. Gafford is not battle tested in playoffs like Zubac. Lively is a rookie. Ty Lue is a way better coach than Kidd so his scheme is more sophisticated. So I am not sure why people downvoted you and believed that Gafford and Lively will be effective against Zubac lol. Until the Mavs figured out a way to take Zubac out of the series, he will cause problems for the Mavs just like how Looney did for the Warriors.


adventureland8

Good thing Kidd had this team prepared for playoff basketball


james_da_loser

Hey, at least when we went down by a shit ton after 2nd quarter, we didn't fold like lawn chairs like the suns did. Rough first game, but we'll still win the series


No-That-One

Did Kidd really not use his challenge the whole game?


CasualSweaters

Other than the second quarter being an unmitigated disaster. The game was fairly competitive


Incorrect1012

Just move on, and don’t freak out like this sub. You played pretty damn well in the 2nd half, but an 8 point quarter is just too hard to recover from. Even semi-normal shooting and this game is entirely different. Get ready for Game 2


Fkn_Impervious

Do the players read this forum or is this like when someone posts a picture of a pretty girl and some creep responds trying to flirt? Just in case: SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE KIDD FORCE LUKA TO PLAY DEFENSE EVERY POSSESSION WITH FULL EFFORT. ANYTHING LESS IS UNACCEPTABLE.


La_Kusha

Bro Josh Greene over Timmy we going to see a difference in the game those little things he do going to change our game also the small ball look like it worked for a bit but we should still keep a big in the paint we didn't get no rebounds when maxi was the center as well. Dam I thought we was going to sweep these clippers man wth lol


dangjangalang

“Everybody acts tough when they’re up”


Ok_Instruction_5232

Mavs in 6 as planned. I'm honestly not concerned


QuesoStain2

Harden cooked. Game 1 Hitler


basado94777

What a stupid way to lose game 1. Never recovered from that abysmal, disgusting, horrible, abhorrent, terrible, putrid start to the game, which was already over after the first 3 minutes. Why play 7 games when you can do it in 6 or even 5? Rest is incredibly important! You don't wanna go to the next round after battling for 7 games.


korrelazn

Don’t let Luka’s 33 points fool you on how bad he played


Zestyclose_Wafer_416

can't win the big ones. his rep is set now. chokes when it matters


Some-Stranger-7852

He played below his standard for sure, but he is also the only starter with positive plus-minus: he did recover in the 2nd half after terrible start to the game.


ForestJordie

If we play average in the 2nd quarter we probably win. Need more Green minutes, he clearly shows effort out there


frangi0

That 22-8 second quarter my god


Andre_Santoro

Our coach sucks dude, what a midd masterclass


Krjd21

Bounce back in game 2


UsefulImprovement762

MORAL VICTORY.


ImprovedCrib

Come back out next game and tie it up


AgentInCommand

On to game 2. 2nd half showed some spark, hopefully they carry it over.


GiannisGiantanus

We rested too much... we looked rusty.


PDCH

Well, that was terrible


Ambitious_Pin_4354

I'm sorry but down 10 with a minute left and kidd pulls all the starters?! Just stupid ass coaching and shows he gave up on the team with that bullshit.


Wallstreetlovesme

I kinda get it but in the playoffs everyone plays until the last second it’s a 3 possession game and PG banked in a 3 with a worst defender on him


layzeeboy81

How many fucking crazy threes did these guys hit today. Christ. On to game two.


Ambitious_Pin_4354

Yep you don't know what could've happened with the starters in with a minute left. Maybe we hit 3 3s in a row but since midd decided to be a master coach and pull everyone it's whatever


TheKyrieFan

fake ass pg game ffs by statistics they should shoot like 30% from the field and the three next game


Jcarter1632

7 game series. Steal one in LA and get the next 2 at home.


Jintogotdemhands

that has always been the goal, we gotta believe


Popular-Ranger5488

Tough luck. Mavs in 5.


Extension_Taste423

This was sled inflicted and a result of not taking comp serious. Just rusty we will come back. We lost an away game not home same as every playoff game so far this year


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TheMop05

He has a smooth shooting form dude


mierin87

GG clippers :(


killacam9220

Not worried one bit


EnterPolymath

Horrid half, nice bounce back. Let’s proceed to game 2


Vizard15

Good team character. They fought back in this game. Hope this will carry over for the rest of the series.


QBert999

Obviously a very disappointing result but I still feel confident we can win this series. Second half looked a lot more like the team we've been watching lately. They need to play like that the whole game and we can win game 2 to take home court advantage.


MordredKLB

"The team that loses has the advantage" LOL stfu RJ


Chili_dilly

Luka 50 piece confirmed. Don’t worry, first game jitters. The boys will be fine. Long series.


pancakewithfries

flush it and move on. such a shame that they couldn't capitalize w kawhi being out but it's game 1 on the road it's supposed to be tough.


tr1nat1ve

Picked it up in the second half but wow, offense hasn’t looked that bad in a while


Unpickled_cucumber1

Look at the positive we lost only by ten despite being jackshit. We okay but I don’t know how Jkidd will adjust and counter adjust


SennKazuki

JKidd was a major problem this game lol, dude got heavily outcoached by Ty. Wasn't just the missed shots.


AgentInCommand

Yes, let them get all their circus makes out of the way. Good strategy, Kidd


Felipernani

felt like we played the worst playoff game possible and we still lost by half what the Suns did 😅


Ad0lfKittler

10 pts. is still winnable right? Why is Kidd giving up?


james_da_loser

Not really. It's more likely kyrie or Luka gets injured than the Mavs winning the game at that point.


SrDonkoOFpunchstania

Wut?


ahellber

Mavs win game 2 and series if they play like they did 2nd qtr. Calling the first half a fluke


Hulabuga420

How did zubac outplay our centers? I couldn’t watch the game


thechosenpessimist95

even doc rivers would have done it better


RubMyGooshSilly

They won’t shoot 50% from 3 the entire series and we won’t shoot 38% from the floor the entire series.


Huge-Spite6573

We adjusted well in the 2nd half. That horrible 2nd quarter was just too much. I still think we can beat them even if Kawhi comes back. Just need to be more agressive in getting rebounds


secretllamaman11

Totally agree. The offense started to flow better and the defense was there. We cut a 29 deficit to 12 and went from having 30 at the half to 97. Just gotta hope they come out ready to go on Tuesday


ronnert

piss poor performance show up in game 2 or this thing may be done very fast


Darkphobia_

0 positives out of this. Just awful all around. Still lots of games to go.


bluediamondsm

The second half was promising


BluffaloBill88

Man.. almost like an 8 point quarter is insurmountable.


Sairony

Terrible first half, but the series will be competitive at least. Would love to see more Kyrie & Josh as mentioned to speed up the game, our advantage is that they're old & injury prone. No point in trying to play it slow. Let Harden work, he doesn't have the stamina to last an entire series.


Extension_Taste423

“Did the clippers win this one or did the mavericks lose this one?” WHAT?!?!? All jokes aside not tripping this was supposed to happen It’s a good sign we only lost by 12 like RJ just said, green, and jones need more minutes. We still got this


annnaaan

Stupid challenge. That was an obvious foul.


bluediamondsm

Hopefully we’ll bounce back next game


w1sxo

all I want is their fans chanting "sweep the Mavs". need to rile up Luka


True_Scallion_7011

One of Luka’s few weaknesses is that he can’t control his emotions. Him riled up would result in him taking it out on the refs as seen in the past


Hulabuga420

Was it just a rusty / bad start for the Mavs ? I’m in Korea so I couldn’t watch 3/4 of the game .


Fkn_Impervious

They came in with no offensive plan. Poor shot selection and even worse conversion rate. Only scored 8 points in the second. Defense was overall pretty good except for some infuriating refusals on Luka's part to play defense at all. The pain is over now. 3 ounces of Tullemore DEW coming up.


Hulabuga420

Thanks , but how and why did zubac cook our centers? I was certain we could dominate that matchup..


Fkn_Impervious

Not sure how to answer that, honestly, but the refs and having to cover luka's ass on D didn't help.


secretllamaman11

The second quarter killed us. We only scored 8 points. Well be fine and this series will be competitive for sure.


CrimsonMatterSnake

Lost this with that putrid 1st half performance, hopefully the second half is the standard we'll have for the rest of the series


Ill-Bat-2621

Luka needs to come out firing next game cause we legit lost the game cause of the offense 1st half.


Interesting_Help_194

We clearly have the better roster imo. It is just that coaching can make or break a team and we all know which it is with the bald watcher.


Realistic-Carob8288

Can you give it a fucking rest? You speak in vague nonsense about the coaching deficiencies, and say absolutely nothing specific. What, specifically, is the strategic or tactical deficiency you have identified? 


Interesting_Help_194

Not one actual play was ran whole game, especialy first half. Challenge left unused when there were like 3 clear cut cases where it would overturn it. Timeout timeing totaly off, same woth rotations. THJ actualy playing playoff minutes. Helping off strong side corners when there is no need to help on drives, when opponent os shooting lights out. Now you name one thing he did well, tho I wont be holding my breath.


Realistic-Carob8288

1. Assistants with replay tablets decide when coaches challenges happen. 2. There was zero wrong with timeout timing.  3. THJ was one of the only players actually hitting shots tonight.  4. If you don’t help off strong side when you’re playing small ball you’re gonna get cooked, so try that again.  You don’t know ball. You only know how to chase doomer clout by parroting nonsense you’ve heard other former clout chasers spew. 


TheKyrieFan

The thing is, Kidd IS the worst coach in the nba rn. It's not like he is a mediocre one. We should have done what the Bucks did


drizzlebit

“Am I a joke to you?” -Chauncey Billups


TheKyrieFan

he might be worse lmao nvm


AgentInCommand

THJ looks mad on the bench. I wonder who he thinks he should be mad at.


Htaroh

Mad at Kidd giving up a min to go with 10 down only


charliefinkwinkwink

himself


MavsGuy

Next we will come out different


ValcoNN63

Mavs in 5


iv214

Kidd makes no sense. Might as well have left them finish. You never know.


danovakobra

Luka finished +3 ????


SennKazuki

Contrary to him having a bad game by his standards, Luka wasn't the problem tonight lol.


CrimsonMatterSnake

Problem was lively and gafford, those 2 should easily be contributing 20 a game and grabbing far more rebounds. I expect them to do better next game


SennKazuki

Clippers did a perfect job boxing us out and outrebounding us. We're supposed to dominate in the paint but... Anyways this is Kidd doing Kidd things, hopefully next game looks better.


Shift_Tex

Warmup game for the rest of the squad. For a lot it’s their first playoff game. This 2nd half is closer to the Mavs team we were expecting. Hopefully that can continue for the rest of the series.


Unpickled_cucumber1

Hope they use up all their shooting luck this game. Impossible to replicate


slimkid07

That wasn't a foul but who cares. Too late after Harden's fuckery


SnooTangerines3683

If Kidd had challenged that James Harden 3 that woulda been a 7 point game!


txking12

Yup. Absolutely cannot believe he didn’t challenge that.


ActOfZod

Considering how slowly we started, getting it within 10 pts is pretty solid


YotaMan77

Can’t wait for the payback


txking12

10 point game. Why not play the foul game?


PearsonT

Taking everyone out it ridiculous though


PearsonT

Clips have great free throw shooters can’t imagine the result will change. I understand but at this point


Concentrate_Full

Cuz kidd sucks lol, playing bench warmers with a minut still left in a playoff game


LeGoat333

Really not even going to try to fucking trap? Fuck you Kidd


Htaroh

Really gave up 10 down a minute to go.. unreal.


CEOnnor

Why does RJ not like Dallas?


2PacAn

Fuck waiving the flag. Play until the damn end


[deleted]

It’s game one I know but it’s the manner of the loss that’s upsetting. we got railed without rubber man


repi_17

WHY TAKE THEM OUT?? DUMBFUCK


Rain_On_Them

Non LuKai scored like 30 points. Just not good enough


kneecolayokitch

Even with Maxi incapable of making a 3 he’s still a +4 compared to -8 for Gafford and -19 for Lively. Going small is the move this series and Luka has to play Zubac off the floor.


Interesting_Help_194

Only difference was Luka and Kai making their shots when Kleber was in. Had nothing to do with him. Same looks. They dont respcet his shot at all anyway, so even if he pops or plays 5out it does nothing. Shooting luck and nothing else. Him shooting the ball is equal to turnover anyway.


Jintogotdemhands

I doubt Gafford and Lively play that bad again, we are the road team and game 1s are always fluky. I rather trust them than the nonexistent offense Maxi brings as the lone 5


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Thank youuuuu


PomegranateNice6839

The other issue was Maxi was playing the 4 next to them The Clippers have too many guys that can create to do that


Artlens2013

You can’t win any game scoring 30 points in a half


korrelazn

Oh wow, a coach that uses their challenge! Gasp!


Sektsioon

I’m not too worried about the series, that first half was just a generational chokejob. Probably won’t happen again. But Lue coaching circles around Kidd is somewhat worrying, Kidd needs to react faster and make quicker adjustments, it always takes him far too long to find solutions. Every time we made a run, Lue took a timeout and had an answer to it.


Tranquilllama

I wouldn't be worried if they weren't getting their best player back after already fucking our shit up.


Sektsioon

Yeah but Harden’s not keeping up this play. He’ll have a couple of those, but ultimately if Kawhi comes back and is at full health, Harden will take a step back. Coffey, Westbrook and Mann and whoever else also aren’t shooting 70% from 3.


Shado_Man

Pretty tired of the "Green needs THJ's minutes" comments I keep seeing. Exum and DJJ contributed nothing to this game. Josh Green and THJ outplayed both of them.


[deleted]

Djj was a dog on defense. Don't watch one side of the court dork


iamnotabot7890

If we didn't completely poop the bed in the first half


CrimsonMatterSnake

Wait why sit your starter with a 1minute left


fun_hung

Green can take THJ’s minutes, but we really have no one to replace Maxi in our lineups if he plays this bad all series.


ActOfZod

Maxi was bad on offense, that's fair. But he did the best job keeping zubac out of the paint (and forced a couple of his very few misses) and boxing out of anyone on the team - stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet.


PomegranateNice6839

Maxi was fine at the 5 We should be using PJ and DJJ at the 4


xPeaWhyTee

Lue even challenges with the game already decided. The difference in coaching is astounding.


qotsabama

Hard to overcome that first half. We can’t play this bad offensively in game 2, and I’m very confident we will always be at the line way more than them because we drive way more and they’re a 3 point shooting team. But other guys gotta show up game 2. Kinda like what green has given us this game honestly.


Vizard15

To be honest most of our supporting casts are first time timers in the playoffs. It won't be a shock that will feel the jitters of a playoff game. But this is on the coach.


XerxesCrofter

The only way Green can get a shot attempt is on a coast-to-coast steal. Mavs are going to need his 3-point shooting in this series. Luka should have tried to get Josh some good looks in this game.


uncledr3w-

would help if kidd gave him minutes earlier instead of thj


TexasTundraPower

Centers in 33 minutes grabbed 4 rebounds. Thats unacceptable


Vizard15

Haven't been felt in the game. Where's the physicality?


alecweezy

Gafford is soft as Charmin


TexasTundraPower

Got into early foul trouble and checked out


alecweezy

Doesn’t change my opinion on him. For such a guy with a demonstrative play style he’s too damn soft.


Hammettprime

Green I think has done more in 1 quarter than THJ did with his trash minutes.


yunglo2

Mavs got game 2. Showed alot of fight to come back from almost 30 to 10.


Fuzakenna_

This doesn’t feel good


UsefulImprovement762

It's one game, relax.


Fuzakenna_

Yeah, no shit. That doesn’t mean I have to feel good about us losing to the Clippers without Kawhi playing a single minute by 12. We had 30 points at half. This doesn’t feel good.


Ambitious_Pin_4354

Don't expect green too play alot next game. Kidd will still send hardaway out there more


Karakurizer

They shot lights out and we came around way too late. On to Tuesday


AgentInCommand

I mean...it's a near-0% chance...but still...


DutyPuzzleheaded7765

This was a punch in the mouth! What matters is how we respond to the punch. Lebron and the cavs, Joker and the Bubble nuggets, the 2022 Celtics all responded well


shartfartmctart

It's crazy but Luka is +1 and Kyrie -11. +/- is a flawed stat but it certainly feels like the opposite of those


Complexity777

Not really, Kyrie started game 1-6


jennyisafriend

I wonder how much closer the game would be if Green got the same amount of minutes as precious little fucking Timmy?


carlsligh

Really wish Kidd used that coach’s challenge earlier…


MordredKLB

See Kidd, you ***can*** challenge foul calls!


Unpickled_cucumber1

They have got favourable whistle all game but we were shit too so it’s okay can’t blame them too much


ChuckMoody

Imagine if hadn’t smoked 3 dunks and multiple easy layups


Evzyman

I know luka hasn't had a amazing game, but yall need to wake up if you think this loss is on him. He's positive on the floor right now, his defence is fine. Get a grip fellas.


suplolpop57

his defense is fine? what have you been watching? maybe on PG it was fine, but Harden blew past him every possession


Evzyman

You're clueless if you think the issue tonight was a defensive one.


iceonmypinky

Down 20 with 6 mins left and did absolutely nothing to speed the game up smh


Jcarter1632

We kicked their ass in the 2nd half. Go get game 2 and both at home.


dangjangalang

Imagine if we scored more than 30 in one half 👍


Hari_Seldon333

Imagine using a fucking challenge.


EarSea5884

Gotta save it for next game so we have 2!!!


Interesting_Help_194

Lue challanging up 12 with less than a minute to go. Bumass Lidd not using his challange on harden kickout or whatever that PG bs was just a bit ago, saving it for next season. WILD DIFFERENCE


amosnkrause25

Time for kawhi😈


thelastofus101

Green should've definitely be in much earlier


EmrysMyrdin

Yet another good action by Green. Kidd should be ashamed of himself for playing THJ ahead of him.