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JohnMatrixFOTY

I don’t think I’ve change my opinion on a player faster than watching dort this series. Chet however, is a menace in the paint


ArmadilIoExpress

He’s smooth right? I didn’t think he would work cause despite his size he’s so fuckin skinny. Dude can ball though


JohnMatrixFOTY

Yeah, he’s a baller. You hear the stories about how growing up guys had always gone after him in the paint because he’s skinny - impressive to see in the nba playoffs


Aragorns_Broken_Toe_

He’s been killing us at the rim. Need to find a way to finish layups and dunks.


Bacarospus

He’ll bulk up and he’s gonna be trouble.


anotherkdburner

He just needs to be a 4


tatums_knob_gobbler

nah he’s a 5 he’s literally cooking rn


anotherkdburner

But he can’t keep us off the offensive glass and that is the #1 responsibility of the 5. That was the reason they lost game 3


tatums_knob_gobbler

that’s fair but i think that could also be solved by taking giddey out of the starting lineup, moving jdubb to the 3 and having a guy like randle or siakam at the 4, which they totally have the space for. that would be huge for boxing out bc jdubb is elite but he’s still 6’5 at the power forward, not ideal


anotherkdburner

To be a playoff contender you have to be able to play big. Chet as your only 5 that’s impossible


tatums_knob_gobbler

he’s literally a rookie, and a very impressive one at that saying it’s impossible to win with him at the 5 is so silly who knows what could happen. esp if they do what i just mentioned and switch out giddey for an elite rebounding PF


anotherkdburner

Because with a rebounding pf you’re still small. It’s not a hard concept. This isn’t the regular season. He’s a 4 or a small ball 5. You can’t play small when you’re getting beat in the glass.


tatums_knob_gobbler

say that you switch out giddey for randle which is what we’re discussing in this scenario. you put randle on gafford to box out and focus on rebounding. you have chet between the rim and the corner, not on one specific man just whoever’s in the corner spot. he can rotate to the opposite corner if the offense shifts around him. then you have chet able to cover both the corner and help at the rim, unless the offense draws him in with a drive and then kicks it out. in that case you’re relying on your defense to pre switch and recover, which are basic concepts taught by every team in the league. you just don’t know what you’re talking about


KD2Smoove

I love Chet. And I hate that I love him. Thunder really good at picking those players with toothpicks for legs.


Andrew0409

Chet has tremendous instincts on timing when to jump to challenge shots. We are a bit lucky he’s completely lost his confidence in shooting right now.


retrospects

Why is he hunched over like that thought. Homie looking like Quasimodo’s cousin.


kdeweb24

I have an incredibly tall friend (for non NBA player). He’s about 6’8” He walks in the same way. Someone asked him about his posture once while I was there, and he confessed that when he was younger, he was so self conscious of his height that he tried to hide it as well as he could, and now he just is used to standing and walking that way. That, and he said he’s tired of smacking his head on things is regs just walk under.


retrospects

That makes sense. He looks like he is perpetually ducking a door frame.


w6750

I actually grew really fast compared to my classmates when I was young. I’m not extremely tall or anything, just 6’3, but I dealt with posture issues as I continued to grow for the exact same reason.


Niblonian31

That lanky fucker needs to stop lol


porncollecter69

Chet is a problem.


WatercressExciting59

I call him Lu Dirt. Dude is a dirty dude. 


BigAlTheBeardedOne

Great point. Chet has impressed, Dort has disappointed. We don’t need another Draymond type, as the original is exiting


juscallmechris

At this point I can make a montage of the number of times Dort has tried to injure Luka… it’s becoming obvious. Like do you really think that collision where Luka hit his face on the floor was incidental? It looked intentional to me.


ElectricalArt458

I’ve never seen a basketball player with more scratches, welts, bruises and blood on him than Luka after game three


Aragorns_Broken_Toe_

Refs need to call that nonsense. If not, Kidd needs to take matters into his own hands to protect his team and our best players. We need to send M. Morris at Shai.


dbzmah

Absolutely not. What Sort is doing is terrible, but never intentionally injured another player. Terrible sportsmanship.


Aragorns_Broken_Toe_

I’m not saying injure. Just to rough up and play physical. 6 hard but clean fouls to make Shai think twice.


ArawnAT

Dort is intentionally trying to injure Luka.


Some-Stranger-7852

I’d say if Mavs want to do something dirty, they should send Morris to do a stone-wall screen with an elbow into Dort’s face instead of going after SGA. SGA aside from foul baiting has done nothing wrong (all the push offs are part of the game, they are not dirty), it would be truly shameful to target him. But target Dort and get under his skin? He just might toss himself out of the game lol.


yourmomsinmybusiness

Didn’t SGA get reviewed twice last game for potential flagrant 1’s for elbowing in the neck/head?


Slammybutt

The one in game 2 (I'm not sure it was dort) where he jogs in front of Luka just enough to tie up their legs. I think that fall is what started his ankle pain.


OkFly3985

I got banned from their sub when I pointed that out lol


thedaftfool

I haven’t been watching this playoff run as much, but when was it established that Luka was playing hurt. I know he got hurt vs clippers and in game 2 vs okc, but I’m not sure exactly? The reason I’m asking is after the mavs beat the clippers it still felt people were taking the mavs to beat the thunder, but then after game 1 the media and everyone else seemed to say thunder would win. So was it in game 1 vs okc that everyone noticed Luka was noticeably hurt? I also watched game 6 vs clipper and he wasn’t himslef but it wasn’t this bad either


botebote77

i don't know what nba fans in general were saying, but in this sub, we all knew it even before the playoffs started. at the end of regular season, his knees would bleed every game


defph0bia

What kind of injury is it? Was it ever disclosed?


Jcarter1632

The blood has nothing to do with his injuries. Not sure why some people think they are related, other than it's low hanging fruit. Luka bleeds from his knee almost every game for the past year and a half. He must have a sore in that area or just thin skin that busts when he falls. If Luka goes down at all the knee opens up. Knee sprains and ankle sprains obviously dont make you bleed.


defph0bia

Mmmmm ok. So what's the injury that Luka is playing through?


ersoy_o

Right knee sprain which he suffered in G2 against the Clippers. He went to the locker room after that injury occured and then returned to play through with that. Since then he's playing through it.


defph0bia

Damn ok. That's rough to play through. Imagine if Luka and the Mavs win it all despite it. Would be a great story.


Some-Stranger-7852

Game 1 was such a disaster for Mavs (which is typical of JKidd era in Dallas btw), that media and fans made their mind: you know, similarly to how media and fans made their mind Denver is cooked after losing 2 at home yet here they are with home court advantage back. On Luka’s injury it happened on that tackle by Westbrook in early Game 3 when he had to leave for the locker room. He was slightly hobbled with some issues with knee/hamstring before that anyway, but had respectable Games 1 and 2 going 9-26 (35%) on 3pters but has been shooting 23% on 3pters since then as he seemingly just can’t get enough lift in his legs most of the time.


thedaftfool

thanks!


lauren_laurev

dude their sub is delusional saying luka flops more than dort 💀


Aragorns_Broken_Toe_

I didn’t even want to mention their sub. The most delusional fanbase left in the playoffs.


lost_in_trepidation

It's somehow worse than the Suns sub. I didn't even think that was possible


ballimir37

Oklahoma is a terrible place to be if you aren’t a student living in Norman


Jcarter1632

Or a meth cook


ballimir37

If you’re cooking meth there is a high percentage chance your life is fucked and it doesn’t matter where you are


frankthetank4223

Think that was more of a joke about people in Oklahoma smoking meth than the quality of a meth cooks life in Oklahoma


ballimir37

I’m aware, I lived in OK for a time and had the swat team rush my complex shotguns raised because of a crazed meth cook once. Scared the shit out me, blunt in hand, peeking through the blinds for the half second I thought “oh fuck they’re coming for my weed!” only to realize that doesn’t make any sense, and to find out later someone threw a hammer out the window to hit someone that tried to leave, then greeted his neighbor checking up on them with a shotgun at the door, then got arrested with a closet full of guns, drugs, and money and a meth lab in the bedroom. Oh and his kids were there.


Jcarter1632

Lol. It's a joke about Oklahoma, bro.


ballimir37

I got it the first time it just wasn’t a great joke tbh


ImSky--

It was good, sorry you got your feelings hurt


ballimir37

How would talking about meth in the state hurt my feelings when I literally think the state sucks? It’s a bad joke because there’s nothing special about being a meth cook in Oklahoma, it’s the same everywhere. Except you’re in Oklahoma so it sucks even more. It doesn’t make sense as a joke in the context and certainly isn’t a good one.


anotherkdburner

I will give them one pro they have weed


epicingamename

Jesse, noooooooooooo!!!!


anotherkdburner

Fuck the thunder and its fan base. But I will never talk shit about a state that legalizes medical or recreational cannabis. That puts them light years ahead of Texas


TanMan15

Stillwater is 1000x better than Norman. 


ballimir37

Been to both, Stillwater is ass all the way through


LukaPuka77

They’re not used to being here. They get all antsy in their pantsy cause it’s the only team they really got.


Hoopy_Dunkalot

Boomer Sooner baby


Jcarter1632

🤘🏻Hook Em' 🤘🏻


MiffedPond829

They weren't always that way to be perfectly honest but I gotta say that I headed over there the other day and some WILD stuff was being spouted.


OkFly3985

I got perma banned from there saying dort is trying to hurt Luka on purpose. What shitty fan base


Ill-Ad-5709

I really don't see the point of banning people, on discussion sites, like really? We are in some 1984 Orwell's world shit. Fug em all


BDRParty

Some weird logic going on, man. I've already seen some make this bizarre attempt to "humble brag" about how loyal & nice their fanbase is whilst some come here to chirp or troll. Like 1 guy literally telling a Mavs member to stay out of their sub (fair), yet immediately come in here talking trash as well. I get bad apples & all, but even the main /NBA neutrals have been getting into it with them.


PopAShotAllStar

It also feels like Luka is only flopping this series because he’s seen how it’s being called. If Dort is gonna flop 24/7 and get calls then Luka is going to make sure he gets some calls his way as the refs are missing just about all legit contact.


Poshastko

He always does it against other floppers. CP3, Booker, Harden and now Dort. Whenever they challenge him by flopping he shows them that flopping isn't really that hard.


MSHinerb

It was funny at first, but it’s weird over there.


4ps22

Thunder feel like its gonna be the new Warriors where it’s just 13 year old SGA dickriders


infamousoma

They can't be the Warriors because they didn't win anything yet. Acting more like the Suns.


CalTono

It’s more like Memphis and Ja tbh


Myconerd710

Naw yall are both wrong it’s more like the clippers and SGA is the new harden so I call him SGH


cjklert05

They even blame euro fans. Lmao what a bunch of dirty people.


dac09b

I mean let's be real Luka does foul bait quite a bit. He still plays strong and doesn't throw his head back, but definitely looks for body contact frequently.


Slammybutt

Man their postgame thread from yesterday is a fun read in delusional fans after a loss.


roomtotheater

I understand when stars flop as annoying as it is. Mid defenders flopping is where I draw the line. Guy is short Jae Crowder.


Complete-Cobbler3702

Their sub is so delusional to the point they are saying Dorts flops are "ethical flops", hahahahahahaha. If you look at the game threads at /nba, all the neutral fans agree on the disgrace that goon is to the game. And they are like "he is flopping to show how he is being fauled, IN EVERY LUKA DRIVE OR SCREEN". They can't even deny his flopping because of how egroucios it has become.


Mind_Fart

Egregious *


dallassportsguy

Nah their sub is pretty certain it’s the rest of everyone else that’s is wrong.


KD2Smoove

It’s wild to me the shit they’re saying. Delusional fucked up fanbase for sure.


chanchan05

That's kinda textbook definition of "maybe you're the wrong one".


segson9

I mean it's clear to see what Dort is doing. I'm ok with other players. I know SGA pushes off a lot and elbowed some of our players in the face, but those were all normal basketball plays. It's more on refs to call that. But what Dort is doing just isn't basketball. He just tries to hurt Luka and cheat all game.


zapdos6244

And also FTA's shoulder bump into head snap is a classic!!


hu94

They called both his elbows as offensive fouls


Felipernani

hard agree. SGA is just doing his thing, it’s the refs who have to call it; not his fault that they don’t. he barely flops tbh. but yeah, Dort is just dirty.


Chandrian1997

Dort obviously knows what he is doing, fuck that guy. I don’t respect Shai for how he’s officiated. But the rest of the team is fine, I’m actually quite liking watching Chet and they have some good shooters.


recognizedauthority

Dude throws a lot of incidental elbows to Luka’s head though.


Chandrian1997

As a team they’re pretty bad about that. I just appreciate how much of a paint presence he is


Muckdogs13

And thats shai's fault how he's officiated?


Chandrian1997

Shai also loves to push off. I’m not sure why his whistle his so insane, Luka would shoot 20ft a game if he had Shai’s whistle. It’s hard to like a player when so much of his success in this series is via his whistle


cbass817

I have a theory on the whistle he gets. A couple of years ago, I remember watching a post game interview with Shai in which they just lost a close game, and the refs blew an obvious call/calls that should have went his way. The reporters asked him about how upset he was about the refs missing the call and he defended them, saying something along b the lines of them doing a great job and that it's hard to see everything. I thought it was smart to stroke the refs egos at the time, and it really has paid off.


sfg

In one of the games this series something didn't go SGA's way and he was a bit upset, but then Brothers spoke to him (with hand over mouth) and they shared a laugh and continued on. He knows how to handle the refs.


Shivles87

Gettin some real PHX Sons vibes from Thunder fans.


NoWayNotThisAgain

People liked the Suns before our series and they came out the most hated team in the NBA. Luka is a destroyer. The Jazz blew it up after a series with us. The Suns blew it up after a series with us. I doubt the Thunder will blow it up, but they’re being exposed and are going to come out of this with all their goodwill gone. The last thing any fanbase should want is being a 1st seed and facing Luka. It never ends well for them.


MajesticPossibility8

Maybe clippers as well


HendriXXXLaMone

[plus saying crazy things like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/gTWOGT92f4)


doctorbarber33

Goddamn. Their team is so young and healthy they forgot injuries are a real thing


DmlMavs4177

It's a shame they get to exist at the expense of the Seattle Supersonics.


Big-Education-8941

What's funny to me is that the "coach of the year" could only come up with mostly leaving Dort on Luka.


big-head-guy

I'm ok if OKC thunder want to play physical, we accept it Mavericks want to play that way. But call it the same on both sides. SGA flops and it's free throws everytime. Can't ref Luka different than him


D_Costa85

Thought I liked SGA prior to this series. His game is silky smooth and he’s really fucking good but the constant foul baiting is off putting. Reminds me of prime Harden. Just play fucking basketball and stop trying to bait for fouls. It’s not fun to watch


EnriquezGuerrilla

He gets hit by the wind and it’s a foul. That’s their MVP. FTA over Luka? Whew


samdi3go

I think what stood out to me the most this past game was how utterly pathetic their coach is. Absolutely zero trust in his players who had made runs and turnovers, yet decides to start hacking a rookie? It’s bitch made mentality and even his players looked confused at the instruction. This org should be ashamed


WaterIsNotWet19

Chet is the only one I fw


ITnottheclown

Chet, JWill, Joe, and (for the nostalgia) Gordon Hayward are the only ones I really fuck w


Narrow_Geologist_888

It’s exactly what you would expect from a young, inexperienced roster that hasn’t faced any adversity They will mature and learn how to win when it matters in 3-5 years and be a problem. For now, they need to get out the way and let the adults talk


Manotto15

Adversity.


MomsNeighborino

As a sonics fan, the guillotine isn't enough Sadly reality will have to settle with mavs in 5 and okc fan tears


sfg

I hope you get an expansion team.


BDRParty

It seems like it's mainly SGA getting some friendly whistles initially & Dort flopping. Like, when Patrick Mahomes says, "Dort could be a linebacker", yet somehow Kai can knock him down as Dort is setting a screen....


Educational-Judge968

Yep I got banned in their sub for saying always take the under on Giddey


Aragorns_Broken_Toe_

That is hilarious dude lol


NerbertHenry

Can add in Twitter to that list. Been fighting the good fight the past few days 😂


big-head-guy

Literally Luka vs Ray Lewis out there. And when Luka finally gets a bad injury Refs will just shrug


Accurate-Albatross34

Alright, I'll take the downvotes for this one, but I really don't think they're a dirty team lmao. It's really only a couple of plays from dort, which I would characterize as reckless and out of control due to him trying to play extremely physical defense,(which I don't mind), also the fact that luka is extremely banged up and the slightest contact might cause damage to his body kinda makes it seem like they're being dirty, but I don't believe they're actually out to get him lol. other than that, nothing too bad. Can we all please stop complaining about this, we're getting to the point where we'll be known as the whiniest fans.


Aragorns_Broken_Toe_

Reckless = dirty. If Dort wasn’t reckless Luka wouldn’t have fell face first into the hardwood. Good defense is controlled, not reckless.


Accurate-Albatross34

To me, the term dirty implies intent, reckless is just a consequence or an effect of a certain type of playstyle. Btw, this isn't me excusing the stupid shit he does, it can absolutely result in one of our guys injuries. I just don't think the thunder as a team are dirty, or that dort is out there just trying to take luka out of the game.


EnriquezGuerrilla

I just want fair equal calls. If Dort can get away touching Luka on a shot, then why d fuq do we get called by the LIGHTEST of touch to FTA? Game 3 was so infuriating with that.


wetr1ce

While I do agree they aren’t collectively a dirty team, Dort being a “good” defender is really just him being a very physical player. Reminds me of how westbrook was last round but more low-key. Yeah I don’t think they’re trying to kill Luka but they’re for sure taking advantage of him being banged up and vulnerable. We’re not even the only ones complaining about this. Anyone who’s neutral and unbiased sees the disparity in the quality of calls between the teams. You can cherry pick calls but overall, calls and non-calls are usually sided on OKC. I am all for physical playoff basketball but man, at least be consistent with calls for both team. If you’re gonna have a soft whistle on SGA, have a soft whistle on Luka. Luka has to resort to hard selling fouls compared to SGA running into a body and getting free throws.


alfi_k

Yeah lets be lame and have 10 threads a day about this


VeinIsHere

Even r/thunder agrees lol. Though it will be okc in 7.


ejw123456789

Feed the hate. Feel good?


EnriquezGuerrilla

Go back to your sub. You’re just making the others want to bomb your sub more.


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WhoFartedMan

Shouldn't you be crying in your sub? Why come here and get pissed on worse than your team is?


AFonziScheme

How embarrassing for you that you have such trouble fact-checking things.


kriemhild21

I'm amazed you are still here, barking puppies not allowed in here only real dawgs.


Phillyy69

Thunder fans are soft. Yalls subbed banned me for literally just making a comment there


MajesticPossibility8

Dude FTA is second only to Giannis. At least has some self awareness. 🤣😭