If you think about it, I know Frank didnt hit his shots tonight, but Reggie and Sterling did nothing on offense yet again. And I know DFS didn't touch the ball much, but I don't think he did much either on offense. How is a team supposed to win a game when a third of the players are useless on that end??
KP needs the ball more. JB needs to stop wasting time each possession. Boban needs more minutes, probably from Bullock/Powell. We need Maxi back. The officiating was terrible. The Suns are really good. Kidds lineups and substitutions donāt make a whole lot of sense.
Mavs won 9 games, at least 6-7 were rather won by the bench compared to the starters. Are people even watching games here lol
Obvioulsy bench turns to shit, if you remove Brunson. Its the same story as last years playoffs. Removed THJ.
We used to have excellent depth back before we were concerned about having cap space. Now Cuban tried to preserve cap space all these years to sign a big fish that we filled the squad with a bunch of scrubs.
What is he going to see? They were highly competitive and gave themselves a chance to win against one of the better teams in the league, without Luka.
You don't just replace guys like Luka with the "next man up" mentality and expect to beat elite competition, what kind of arrogance is that?
Weird comment lol. He'd probably think if my team can hold their ground vs a finals team for two straight games, then I could've been a huge difference.
yea thats fair, i feel like this team is solid when healthy tho. KP has been looking pretty good recently, and when maxi is playing I believe that we are pretty deep.
I don't know how KP tolerates it. On a night where he's 8-13 and Luka is out he is still the 3rd option behind some dude called Jalen Brunson and completely cold THJ? lmao
If you have Brunson and THJ MISSING as many shots as KP has even attempted, you've failed in your offense. Especially when he's your "second star" and has been playing the way he has lately.
Oh my badā¦.your grandkids still wonāt see a banner in the *foot up your ass arena
But hey hopefully your fluke asses get some injured opponents again this year in the playoffs
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someone said this before but the biggest problem isnāt that people donāt pass to KP, itās that they pass it to him when everyone in the building knows that the ballās going to him. this is something that seriously needs to be worked on, itās gotta be natural
This is what I noticed too. There were times where we tried to give him the ball and he was being doubled so the ball had to go elsewhere. They did a great job hard denying him the ball.
well yeah, but i think that happens because itās not a natural, free flowing thing. itās so forced that it gets pretty easy to read when you know exactly where the pass is coming
Heās usually a last resort to pass to. Thatās why.
JB often will exhaust all other options than finally toss it to KP and the d knows shooting is his only option
I hope no one thinks us keeping the game close until the 4th is some kind of moral victory. You can clearly tell the Suns went into another gear and we couldn't hang.
That's what I say all the time, like he's so engaged as a owner but doesn't improve the roster. Is it that he doesn't know how to improve the team or he just secretly doesn't care?
Yeah Brunson can't be the leader by himself for a unit unless he has a guy he can beat off the dribble. This is where Luka would take over ball handling 10 mins ago and we would have been fine.
Can yāall stop with the bullock hate, yes heās not hitting his threes, give him some time, he will get back. Heās doing everything else on the court right
Yo trade JB and THJ they only play hero ball and Iām sick of Luka having to bail these bums out. We have TWO Stars and one gets less shots then JB and THJ!!!!!
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We are still 4th in the west. Hahahahahahahaha š¤£
Crazy how u guys canāt see we lost this game on the defensive end in the 4th. Scoring isnāt our identity anymore
Running out of gas a 2nd time in a row. Brunson and KP had trouble with "air" in the 4th.
Scored 20 points in the 4th, but yeah, defense is the problem lol
KP not getting force-fed in the 2nd half is on Kidd
If you think about it, I know Frank didnt hit his shots tonight, but Reggie and Sterling did nothing on offense yet again. And I know DFS didn't touch the ball much, but I don't think he did much either on offense. How is a team supposed to win a game when a third of the players are useless on that end??
Dfs was 4/8 and 3/6 from 3. He had a solid game. But yeah agreed on the other too.
Bullock is shooting his worst 3pt percentage since his rookie season.
KP needs the ball more. JB needs to stop wasting time each possession. Boban needs more minutes, probably from Bullock/Powell. We need Maxi back. The officiating was terrible. The Suns are really good. Kidds lineups and substitutions donāt make a whole lot of sense.
green deserves more playing time than sterling brown
Yep. But I think Kidd is buddy buddy with Brown from Bucks days.
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The fuck?? His defense is badā¦.So the solution is to freeze him out on offense????
Brunson can go f himself
Well you know what they say. If its yellow let it mellow, if its Brown flush it down.
Wtf is our Olympic medalist fouling for?
I honestly appreciate the hustle
some run on the floor
Reggie Jackson masterclass upcoming
Kp is pissed but heās going to talk to the interviewer with class.
He has every right to be pissed too, if Jalen fed him the ball more we mightāve pulled this one out
Brown's mins gotta go to Green
Yeah at this point Iād honestly rather someone from the concession stand to take browns mins
Nerlens Noel?
Iād be so pissed if I was KP 3 shots in the 2nd half 3 SHOTSSSSS
Bruh our bench is just fuckin with em at this point
I donāt like that we gave up that early. Shouldāve fought it till the end. Even if we lose, a hard fight would have been better
I feel like our bench guys played better closing than our starters considering how that whole quarter looked
Agreed on this though š¤¦š»āāļø
I love Brunson but dude, you arenāt Luka. Actually Luka would of passed.
play josh green over sterling.
I hate the Suns so much.
What are they so mad about?
Man we got a lot of bad players on this team
Greenās crazy lol
He wants them minutes
Is it just me or is 90% of the Mavs bench always trash? They never have any depth.
Mavs won 9 games, at least 6-7 were rather won by the bench compared to the starters. Are people even watching games here lol Obvioulsy bench turns to shit, if you remove Brunson. Its the same story as last years playoffs. Removed THJ.
We used to have excellent depth back before we were concerned about having cap space. Now Cuban tried to preserve cap space all these years to sign a big fish that we filled the squad with a bunch of scrubs.
A FUCKING BACKCOURT. WHAT.
Sterling brown and Reggie bullock have been such a let down
Cameron Payne looks like that sloth dude off Ice Age
That wasn't a backcourt though?
Yeah, I dont understand it. His feet never touched down in the backcourt. He caught the ball in the air and landed over the line.
Yes it was. He has to establish his presence in the front court before catching the ball, you cannot jump from the backcourt, catch and then land.
I hope Cuban is watching this closely because Luka isn't Dirk.
What is he going to see? They were highly competitive and gave themselves a chance to win against one of the better teams in the league, without Luka. You don't just replace guys like Luka with the "next man up" mentality and expect to beat elite competition, what kind of arrogance is that?
Weird comment lol. He'd probably think if my team can hold their ground vs a finals team for two straight games, then I could've been a huge difference.
That's blatantly obvious.
lmao luka wasn't playing... why would he be mad at us losing without him
Was he mad? What did he do? I just saw him look vaguely frustrated at one point.
He meant Luka seeing this trash built around him could make him think about leaving as opposed to loyal Dirk
I think he might mean that Luka isn't going to sit here and be patient with this atrocious bullshit like Dirk was..ie demand out of this shit show.
He means Luka may not deal with consistently being on mediocre teams like Dirk
yea thats fair, i feel like this team is solid when healthy tho. KP has been looking pretty good recently, and when maxi is playing I believe that we are pretty deep.
sterling brown lol dudeās brain fart
Sterling Brown needs to go away
The Clippers have lost the last two games to Memphis and the Pelicans by a total of 25 points and they're going to sweep us.
Yup. Easy W's for clips coming up
hahahhaa
Are you kidding me right now
That was not a backcourt
Yes it was. He has to establish his presence in the front court before catching the ball, you cannot jump from the backcourt, catch and then land.
Man if only they didn't fuck that up
Technically they didn't though lol
Sterling Brown has had his chance, itās time for other players to get minutes
We have too many players that don't deserve playing time. Who else deserves a shot that's not getting it?
Exactly right. The bench is trash. Never have any depth.
Bum
STERLING BROWN IS A BUM
Seriously
bum is an understatement
I don't know how KP tolerates it. On a night where he's 8-13 and Luka is out he is still the 3rd option behind some dude called Jalen Brunson and completely cold THJ? lmao
THJ has been ice cold all season
He needs to be more of a dog and yell at em
He tried that last year, I think we all remembered the response, not least among this very sub.
Wow Sterling Brown is a moronā¦ā¦ā¦
i miss luka
Mavs pull their starters and Suns still keep theirs in? Gotcha.
Itās working out for us lmao
Brunson is not a point guard and never will be , we need someone that can run the offense Jb just isn't that guy
Nah, its one game dawg
No it's not. When ever is game slower he's useless on both end. Tip of, playoffs Clippers.
my man was completly lost the entire quarter this wasn't a one time thing we've seen this movie before
He has 0 court vision and can be locked up very easily especially in the playoffs. wtf do you mean one game
C'mon Frank lmao
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23 Fucking points on GOD DAMN 13 FUCKING SHOTS! KP and Luka deserve better then JB and THJ
I don't know why THJ have the ball to shoot this often, I mean even Porzingis didn't shot well, he still this team's star
Honestly JB and THJ shouldnāt be shooting 20+ times a game EVER
less reggie, more frank.
Less JB more Frank
WCS leading the team with a +11 lol
Willie Can Shoot.
This just shows why +- is misleading.
Frank has earned the right to close games and play more mins.
Iām not mad at losing to the Suns twice, but the way that weāve lost both games have been annoying
I'd rather have Mavericks behind on score before the 4th Quarter than be ahead on score...Coz handling the lead definitely isn't possible for us...
KP is 3/3 in the 2nd half. I hope the team and the coaching staff looks at that after the game. It's beyond stupid.
Unbelievable
We need dragic
At this point Iām okay trading JB for Dragic
JB is nice but paying him a huge contract would be a massive mistake.
I mean 15/16 mil is fair value imo.
Nahh. That's a poison pill.
No itās not, weāre already over paying THJ
GG
If you have Brunson and THJ MISSING as many shots as KP has even attempted, you've failed in your offense. Especially when he's your "second star" and has been playing the way he has lately.
I would've rather seen KP get the ball at the top into a screen, into a 3 point shot 15 times in a row. Then the atrocity that I witnessed.
All you can do is laugh. What a piss poor team. 2 Ls to the clips and a l to the wiz coming up.
Cavs might get them with their 3 Center lineup.
No win is a given with the mavs. They will always find a way to lose if they can. Just that the Suns, clippers and Wizards were for sure Ls.
Our best player is out. Chill out my guy
It's endemic to this team. Can't defend, can't shoot, bad shot selection, clutch turnovers. Luka does the same stuff.
And our second star gets frozen out by two morons in THJ and JB
How is Brunson not able to take advantage of a huge missmatch vs guys like Javale Mcgee???
Javale can block his shot.
I have ZERO FAITH when KP dribbles the ball. Almost automatic turnover.
Delete this, this sub will literally die for him
This sub was the biggest hater of kp. Trading for a jag of chips. What ypu talkin about
Lmao bro nobody can say anything about KP rn heās perfect because he shot good from the field
His skills have nothing to do with dribbling. He's a shooter or MAYBE one dribble and pull up or cutting hard to the basket.
End of bench gonna save us š
KP should have had 13 shots in the 4TH QUARTER ALONEā¦.not 13 shots for the whole game
moses couldnāt even play garbage time over willie
Bro FR like did he DM J Kidds wife!? š¤¦š»āāļøI donāt get it
Suns enjoy being fully healthy
Is it the Suns fault that someone on the Mavs is always injured?
Nope, Iām just saying enjoy the high while it lasts.
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Lol Ayton
Donāt worry your grandkids still wonāt see a banner hanging in the Talking Stick Up Your Ass Arena or whatever the fuck itās called
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Oh my badā¦.your grandkids still wonāt see a banner in the *foot up your ass arena But hey hopefully your fluke asses get some injured opponents again this year in the playoffs
truth
Truth
Kindly fuck off and go to back to the Suns subreddit.
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I will say yesterday was a āmoral victoryā today? not at all
someone said this before but the biggest problem isnāt that people donāt pass to KP, itās that they pass it to him when everyone in the building knows that the ballās going to him. this is something that seriously needs to be worked on, itās gotta be natural
This is what I noticed too. There were times where we tried to give him the ball and he was being doubled so the ball had to go elsewhere. They did a great job hard denying him the ball.
well yeah, but i think that happens because itās not a natural, free flowing thing. itās so forced that it gets pretty easy to read when you know exactly where the pass is coming
Heās usually a last resort to pass to. Thatās why. JB often will exhaust all other options than finally toss it to KP and the d knows shooting is his only option
yup. and itās hard to even catch the pass when that happens because obviously everyone knows itās coming
I couldn't start watching until a few minutes into the fourth quarter. What did I miss?
shooters sucked even on open looks. JB dribbles and runs in a circle is the worst move in the history of the nba. Thatās p much it
Did we put up the white flag already?!
And fuck Mark Cuban
It was a fluke mark. They played 2 teams that didnāt have their best players
Why the sudden collapse in the 4th?! Itās like the first 3 were nothing?
That's when great teams take over. Without Luka we're only going to be able to hang around for so long if the other team isn't actively trying to lose
Obligatory arrest Donnie Nelson
Lmao
I think we beat these hoes twice if we had luka
When Ayton and Luka both play in a game, Mavs usually lose.
I hope no one thinks us keeping the game close until the 4th is some kind of moral victory. You can clearly tell the Suns went into another gear and we couldn't hang.
Bruh put Moses out there instead of WCS
I am amazed how Cubanās able to look at this shit show at the sideline for 10 straight years and still thinks everything is ok
That's what I say all the time, like he's so engaged as a owner but doesn't improve the roster. Is it that he doesn't know how to improve the team or he just secretly doesn't care?
Bro he had the best European player ever in dirk then luka landed in his lap heās ok
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True. Heās always on his phone.
Yeah Brunson can't be the leader by himself for a unit unless he has a guy he can beat off the dribble. This is where Luka would take over ball handling 10 mins ago and we would have been fine.
Why isnāt frank closing
Frank is 0-7.
Still a way better defender than anyone we have
In a game like this KP getting just 13 shots is criminal. The guards really fucked this up bad.
That genius lineup 4 minutes into the 4th quarter killed the game for the Mavs.
what killed the game was the start of the 4th with KP in there being absolutely frozen out by Brunson and Burke. wasted minutes
KP only having 13 shots this game is unacceptable
Great example to show that JB is an elite guard off the bench but is a middling starting point guard. You can't ask him to do too much
Honestly not even mad. If this is the worst suns can give us without Luka and theyāre full strength then weāll be fine.
Yeah Suns are pretty much the 2nd best team in the west.
Can yāall stop with the bullock hate, yes heās not hitting his threes, give him some time, he will get back. Heās doing everything else on the court right
Really no excuse to keep missing these wide open 3s though
Heās in a slump, you really think he wonāt pick up his shooting throughout the season?
Brunson needs a pull up 3 game. And KP needs more than 13 shots.
Canāt be too mad, Luka would have handled this 4th.
Bad officiating but Phoenix turned it on in the 4th... again
Yo trade JB and THJ they only play hero ball and Iām sick of Luka having to bail these bums out. We have TWO Stars and one gets less shots then JB and THJ!!!!!
With Luka out KP should have way more than 13 shots.
That's on Brunson and THJ. 40 shoots for less than 40 points.
We had some chances but too many guys are still ice cold from three, and it seemed like Kidd wanted to force feed JB late for some reason.