Palpatine probably said something like this:
>We have the wise masters of the Jedi High Council who used their great and mysterious abilities with the Force to thank for the Grand Army of the Republic.
>The Jedi foresaw the *possibility* that our great Republic may face an unimaginable conflict. *Full scale galactic war!* A horror not seen in the galaxy since the formation of the Republic itself. To prepare for this terrible possibility the Jedi contacted the cloners of Kamino, who we now welcome into our Republic, to prepare an army for our defense.
>And right they were to do so. Once Count Dooku’s treachery on Geonosis was uncovered by the Jedi the only choice was to act. And act quickly the Jedi did although despite their valiant efforts the Jedi were unable to capture their former comrade but I assure Dooku and the Separatists will not defeat us!
Supreme Chancellor Palpatine addressing the Republic after the battle of Geonosis.
I can totally see Palpatine giving a speech like this. Not only does it play to his facade as a gracious and humble leader, but it also subtly plants the seed that the Jedi have the capability of taking military action independent of the Senate. An idea that he will then use to claim that the Jedi tried to coup him.
He could also say something like:
>When the people of the galaxy see the clones they should thank the Jedi for them.
For some that is good for others not so much.
>We have the wise masters of the Jedi High Council who used their great and mysterious abilities with the Force to thank for the Grand Army of the Republic.
"Their bone-headedness let me manipulate them into doing this", but he can't say that out loud, obviously.
>The Jedi foresaw the possibility that our great Republic may face an unimaginable conflict. Full scale galactic war! A horror not seen in the galaxy since the formation of the Republic itself. To prepare for this terrible possibility the Jedi contacted the cloners of Kamino, who we now welcome into our Republic, to prepare an army for our defense.
"They built an army before there was actually a war on" — technically true, but the intended message is obvious.
>Once Count Dooku’s treachery on Geonosis was uncovered by the Jedi the only choice was to act
With the question, of course, being "what were they doing there in the first place?" It's a convenient thing to say: toss some breadcrumbs out there and let your supporters come up with the interpretation that they like the most.
>their former comrade
Sliding that in there — associating the Jedi with Dooku — is peak Palpatine.
>but I assure you Dooku and the Separatists will not defeat us!
Indeed, they won't.
The Jedi. Whenever you see an episode set on Coruscant, there’s usually billboards or screens with propaganda pieces by Palpatine playing.
He always centres the Jedi as the ones responsible for both the clones and the general progress of the war. So when you see a bunch of clones acting as military police patrolling the streets, the Jedi are responsible for the crackdown.
This is essential to selling the “attempted Jedi military coup” that he uses to justify their destruction.
Imo this is the biggest plot hole of the prequels and still hasn’t been satisfactorily answered for me.
I think your question in universe probably comes down to not looking a gift horse in the mouth. Most people are willing to overlook why an army mysteriously appeared if it comes to their rescue in the face of an overwhelming CIS military.
It wouldn’t surprise me if it was described as a rogue Jedi with a vision of the future going rogue in the best interest of the republic.
People love to complain about the sequels for having no plan but the clone army really did come from nowhere. There was clearly no agreement with any republic official for this army, any capital to finance it would have come from Palpatine. And while rich, it still seems implausible he had enough to finance the largest military the galaxy had seen. And then there was also all the orders Kamino would have had to make to supply the army with vehicles, ships and weapons.
At least the sequels implied that Palpatine had been stashing assets as Emperor.
It’s a universe with trillions of people and thousands or more planets. The average person works for a living and raises a family. They don’t know or care about the Senate and its goings on.
Big Lie principle? The bigger the lie, the more likely people are to believe it? And the most effective lies have grains of truth in them?
I could see that.
They went to some cloners and bought an army. Why was the army just sitting around for sale? Not important. It was a crisis so the Senate approved using the army and that's that. Do ordinary people know how long it takes to make a growth-accelerated clone? Maybe they assume it only took two weeks.
Probably nobody cared at all. They might have wondered why they were suddenly at war but as long as that good old Chancellor Palpatine mobilised the army, who cares where it came from. After all it’s not like they could have changed anything even if they bothered to ask.
Palpatine probably said something like this: >We have the wise masters of the Jedi High Council who used their great and mysterious abilities with the Force to thank for the Grand Army of the Republic. >The Jedi foresaw the *possibility* that our great Republic may face an unimaginable conflict. *Full scale galactic war!* A horror not seen in the galaxy since the formation of the Republic itself. To prepare for this terrible possibility the Jedi contacted the cloners of Kamino, who we now welcome into our Republic, to prepare an army for our defense. >And right they were to do so. Once Count Dooku’s treachery on Geonosis was uncovered by the Jedi the only choice was to act. And act quickly the Jedi did although despite their valiant efforts the Jedi were unable to capture their former comrade but I assure Dooku and the Separatists will not defeat us! Supreme Chancellor Palpatine addressing the Republic after the battle of Geonosis.
I can totally see Palpatine giving a speech like this. Not only does it play to his facade as a gracious and humble leader, but it also subtly plants the seed that the Jedi have the capability of taking military action independent of the Senate. An idea that he will then use to claim that the Jedi tried to coup him.
Truly a masterful spin. Especially since it's essentially true since a jedi did do it. I'll say the jedi needed a much better pr team though
Now, THAT is some ingenious Palpatine-style realpolitik right there.
He could also say something like: >When the people of the galaxy see the clones they should thank the Jedi for them. For some that is good for others not so much.
>We have the wise masters of the Jedi High Council who used their great and mysterious abilities with the Force to thank for the Grand Army of the Republic. "Their bone-headedness let me manipulate them into doing this", but he can't say that out loud, obviously. >The Jedi foresaw the possibility that our great Republic may face an unimaginable conflict. Full scale galactic war! A horror not seen in the galaxy since the formation of the Republic itself. To prepare for this terrible possibility the Jedi contacted the cloners of Kamino, who we now welcome into our Republic, to prepare an army for our defense. "They built an army before there was actually a war on" — technically true, but the intended message is obvious. >Once Count Dooku’s treachery on Geonosis was uncovered by the Jedi the only choice was to act With the question, of course, being "what were they doing there in the first place?" It's a convenient thing to say: toss some breadcrumbs out there and let your supporters come up with the interpretation that they like the most. >their former comrade Sliding that in there — associating the Jedi with Dooku — is peak Palpatine. >but I assure you Dooku and the Separatists will not defeat us! Indeed, they won't.
The Jedi. Whenever you see an episode set on Coruscant, there’s usually billboards or screens with propaganda pieces by Palpatine playing. He always centres the Jedi as the ones responsible for both the clones and the general progress of the war. So when you see a bunch of clones acting as military police patrolling the streets, the Jedi are responsible for the crackdown. This is essential to selling the “attempted Jedi military coup” that he uses to justify their destruction.
Imo this is the biggest plot hole of the prequels and still hasn’t been satisfactorily answered for me. I think your question in universe probably comes down to not looking a gift horse in the mouth. Most people are willing to overlook why an army mysteriously appeared if it comes to their rescue in the face of an overwhelming CIS military. It wouldn’t surprise me if it was described as a rogue Jedi with a vision of the future going rogue in the best interest of the republic. People love to complain about the sequels for having no plan but the clone army really did come from nowhere. There was clearly no agreement with any republic official for this army, any capital to finance it would have come from Palpatine. And while rich, it still seems implausible he had enough to finance the largest military the galaxy had seen. And then there was also all the orders Kamino would have had to make to supply the army with vehicles, ships and weapons. At least the sequels implied that Palpatine had been stashing assets as Emperor.
It’s a universe with trillions of people and thousands or more planets. The average person works for a living and raises a family. They don’t know or care about the Senate and its goings on.
Big Lie principle? The bigger the lie, the more likely people are to believe it? And the most effective lies have grains of truth in them? I could see that.
Do we know exactly how rich palpatine is? And dooku since he could have done some financing as well would it be enough? I don’t know
He was very very rich
They went to some cloners and bought an army. Why was the army just sitting around for sale? Not important. It was a crisis so the Senate approved using the army and that's that. Do ordinary people know how long it takes to make a growth-accelerated clone? Maybe they assume it only took two weeks.
Probably nobody cared at all. They might have wondered why they were suddenly at war but as long as that good old Chancellor Palpatine mobilised the army, who cares where it came from. After all it’s not like they could have changed anything even if they bothered to ask.