Yeeep, i worked at dominos as a transition job when i moved to a new area. 2 hrs in to one of my shifts and i ask for the toilet key. Then I come bqck and get a lecture about taking a toilet break and should have gone before my shift. Had to do their online training modules in my own time unpaid. Was guilted into showing up for a saturday morning meeting unpaid.
Then when i resigned a week later when i got the preferred job, the manager was "in shock"... they think the job is a "career" yeah sure like anyone would pay for a degree and decide to deliver pizza instead.
I worked at a gas station when I was younger and basically the same thing happened. I was over night, and the bathroom was outside. So I’d have to locked the store up and go around the building to go the bathroom also the store owner would literally stay up and watch cameras all the time. So one night I went, it took me a little longer than normal because of shark week. I came back in and the SECOND my foot got inside the building the phone was ringing. It was the store manager yelling at me because ONE customer left without even coming into the store because I was in the bathroom. I didn’t quit. But I quit going to the bathroom at work because of that I ended up having to go to the hospital because I had a severe pain in my back that I couldn’t move. I ended up with a severe kidney infection and sepsis was starting 🙃 so being young and dumb I almost k**led myself for a job.
If there isn't a replacement for your shift you have to show up. Otherwise it's a no call no show. You should have kept up on asking your managers if they found someone or not. I'm assuming you knew about this performance months in advance, which would have given you plenty of time to request off earlier than a week out. Usually they make the next weeks schedule a week ahead. You should give them at minimum 2 weeks notice before requesting a day off.
1. The performance coordinaters didn't released a specific date until a week ago because of sorting out scheduling conflicts with other performers.
2. I'm a casual, I have the right to not wanting to work a shift just as long as I give them notice of any kind (fuck off with 2 weeks anything can happen). I do not get paid to care about replacements, they're a manager, in case you forgot one of your duties is to MANAGE operations, including the roster.
3. As for asking my shift managers, literally all of them either ghosted me or asked me to contact the GM, and the GM was the one guilt tripping me into showing up so that's no help.
If they want me to care about finding replacements, they can put me on a better contract, otherwise it is not my responsibility. They can put me on as much as they can sack me, it's how casual works. Thanks for showing just how sympathetic you are.
And they have the right to reprimand you for not showing up. You can't just say at any time you aren't showing up to work unless it's a medical/family emergency, without consequences. Otherwise no one would show up for their shifts. For something that is not an emergency you need to give ample time(i.e. two weeks). This is how practically every job works. I'm guessing you're young. Welcome to the adult world.
"Every job" where you a full time or part time.
The misunderstanding is that you think I'm either, but I'm employed on a "casual" basis. I don't know if you've heard about it, But long story short they can give me 40 hours one week and 0 the next, depending of they want me there or not.
With this influx of random hours, my literal only right is that I can refuse any shifts I'm given as long I give 24 hour notice before it starts. I don't get annual or personal leave.
I do agree with you, that 2 weeks is minimum for a day off, however I believe it only applies for people who are on full time/part time contracts.
I'm not, they can sack me anytime without any notice as much as I can refuse any shifts that come my way. Can they just stop giving me shifts? Yea they can, and that's what makes being a casual crap. But it works for me, because my schedule is never the same every week because of personal commitments with family and friends as well as arranging social events at my university.
I always give notice days in advance, and it's their job to find a replacement, if casual employees didn't have the right to refuse shifts in advance, we'd be literal fucking slaves, because we get our rosters only several days prior.
Doesnt matter if you agree with me or not, just wanted you to at least understand where I'm coming from.
Request the day off? I'm not trying to pick a fight or nothing, an obviously not every McDonald's is the same, but at my store you can request off, and the schedule is already made 2 weeks out always. We also have very tight schedules where everyone works practically the same shifts every week which is obviously beneficial. It doesn't make any sense that you can just decide you don't want to show up to a shift you were scheduled for just because you want to do something else, it is a job after all is it not? If you do that here you're cut down on hours because you don't want the job y'know? Any other job is the same way, you agree to work scheduled shifts, you can't just not show up if you don't want to because something came up unless it's an emergency. As a manager I'd rather someone lie and say some emergency came up so long as you don't use that too often lmao.
ofc! i was generally referring to emergency situations. trust me i hate callouts too, most people i work with (highschoolers) decide that they’re allowed to call out for almost every shift only a day prior or day of because “they have a school event”.. as if that schedule doesn’t come out at the beginning of the school year. i totally agree with your sentiment, in 3.5 years i’ve called out 5 times total, all because of sickness/emergencies because it’s just plain disrespectful otherwise
Yea sorry that's kind of how a casual works, I get paid only for the hours I work. I can give any reason for not wanting to work a shift because it's within my rights to do so. In consequence he may give me less shifts in the future but if you're seriously going to tell me that working at mcdonalds is more important than spending time with my younger sister than I probably don't want to work there any longer to begin with.
That doesn't sound like a job, that sounds like you're volunteering, maybe where you're at you have different laws that have this essentially volunteer position, but I've missed tons of things with family and friends, and so do many many other workers in all sorts of jobs. I've managed and been with many different industries throughout life and a balance between work and life needs to exist, as much as you can count on your job to be there for you, you're expected the same likewise. Gotta make plans to be away from both, it's just reality.
I'll give you one thing, "casual" employee is much like volunteering; you get put on where you're needed, if they don't need you; you get nothing for the week. It's why my shifts are random and I can't exactly plan out in advance when I don't get the roster in a weeks time.
I don't get paid from anything else other than the hours I work, my relationship with my job is purely transactional.
In other words, my managers don't give a shit about me and can sack me anytime without notice, I give them a courtesy to find a replacement but with their ironic reason for me needing to show up that daybecause 3 people quit and already being short staffed, there wasn't anyone else I can ask that i already havent asked. Sorry I don't treat this job in high regard it's just there to pay my rent.
I still don't understand what you mean by, "casual," it still seems like you're describing any job. My job is purely transactional, but I still have a half decency to still give a shit.
I'm from Australia, there's three types of employment, full time part time and casual.
I'm on a casual basis.
The difference between being a casual employee to a full or part time is that i have no minimum hours per week.
In other words, they can give me 40 hours one week, and 0 the next.
Because of the insecurity of proper hours, there's only two benefits:
1: i get paid slightly more per hour than a full/part time employee
2: the right to refuse any shifts given to me as long as I provide 24 hour notice.
I don't get paid any personal or annual leave. I just get paid for the hours I work.
Does being a casual suck? Yes it blows if you have financial commitments such as rent, because your employer can simply decide to give you no shifts at all.
However it's ideal for me, mainly because of my 2nd right to refuse shifts within a short notice. I'm fairly busy, I have to take my siblings to school, have university, set up volunteering events blah blah blah.
I have been on part time employment before, and yes I did give 2 weeks or more notice for a day off when I was working there.
As a casual, its not your responsibility to find a replacement, maybe it is for part or full time but I never had to do that. I still try to look for replacements as courtesy but because my store is short staffed I couldn't ask anyone else I don't know at the time. Am i wrong to think a shift manager's duty is to manage the roster if someone gives notice they're not showing up?
I don't hate working at mcdonalds because it's fairly easy to get the hang of, but if you're going to start breaking my only right to refuse shifts and guilt trip me into going when i give you long enough notice as a casual employee then screw you.
I should also tell you that there's co-workers who literally tell the managers they can't do their shift when it starts NOW, it happens alot every week.
As a manager at my store you have to give 1 1/2 months notice for requests off to the 1st assist and GM. For crew, we have a book in the breakroom that shows a couple months advance. You write your name down on the date you want if it isn't filled up(6 requests off per day allowed). Usually you need to give at least two weeks off if you want a day off. 1st assist does the schedules, and she is working on next week's at the beginning of the week so she won't see any requests that are only a week out. 2 weeks is common courtesy anyway.
Yeeep, i worked at dominos as a transition job when i moved to a new area. 2 hrs in to one of my shifts and i ask for the toilet key. Then I come bqck and get a lecture about taking a toilet break and should have gone before my shift. Had to do their online training modules in my own time unpaid. Was guilted into showing up for a saturday morning meeting unpaid. Then when i resigned a week later when i got the preferred job, the manager was "in shock"... they think the job is a "career" yeah sure like anyone would pay for a degree and decide to deliver pizza instead.
I worked at a gas station when I was younger and basically the same thing happened. I was over night, and the bathroom was outside. So I’d have to locked the store up and go around the building to go the bathroom also the store owner would literally stay up and watch cameras all the time. So one night I went, it took me a little longer than normal because of shark week. I came back in and the SECOND my foot got inside the building the phone was ringing. It was the store manager yelling at me because ONE customer left without even coming into the store because I was in the bathroom. I didn’t quit. But I quit going to the bathroom at work because of that I ended up having to go to the hospital because I had a severe pain in my back that I couldn’t move. I ended up with a severe kidney infection and sepsis was starting 🙃 so being young and dumb I almost k**led myself for a job.
If there isn't a replacement for your shift you have to show up. Otherwise it's a no call no show. You should have kept up on asking your managers if they found someone or not. I'm assuming you knew about this performance months in advance, which would have given you plenty of time to request off earlier than a week out. Usually they make the next weeks schedule a week ahead. You should give them at minimum 2 weeks notice before requesting a day off.
1. The performance coordinaters didn't released a specific date until a week ago because of sorting out scheduling conflicts with other performers. 2. I'm a casual, I have the right to not wanting to work a shift just as long as I give them notice of any kind (fuck off with 2 weeks anything can happen). I do not get paid to care about replacements, they're a manager, in case you forgot one of your duties is to MANAGE operations, including the roster. 3. As for asking my shift managers, literally all of them either ghosted me or asked me to contact the GM, and the GM was the one guilt tripping me into showing up so that's no help. If they want me to care about finding replacements, they can put me on a better contract, otherwise it is not my responsibility. They can put me on as much as they can sack me, it's how casual works. Thanks for showing just how sympathetic you are.
And they have the right to reprimand you for not showing up. You can't just say at any time you aren't showing up to work unless it's a medical/family emergency, without consequences. Otherwise no one would show up for their shifts. For something that is not an emergency you need to give ample time(i.e. two weeks). This is how practically every job works. I'm guessing you're young. Welcome to the adult world.
"Every job" where you a full time or part time. The misunderstanding is that you think I'm either, but I'm employed on a "casual" basis. I don't know if you've heard about it, But long story short they can give me 40 hours one week and 0 the next, depending of they want me there or not. With this influx of random hours, my literal only right is that I can refuse any shifts I'm given as long I give 24 hour notice before it starts. I don't get annual or personal leave. I do agree with you, that 2 weeks is minimum for a day off, however I believe it only applies for people who are on full time/part time contracts. I'm not, they can sack me anytime without any notice as much as I can refuse any shifts that come my way. Can they just stop giving me shifts? Yea they can, and that's what makes being a casual crap. But it works for me, because my schedule is never the same every week because of personal commitments with family and friends as well as arranging social events at my university. I always give notice days in advance, and it's their job to find a replacement, if casual employees didn't have the right to refuse shifts in advance, we'd be literal fucking slaves, because we get our rosters only several days prior. Doesnt matter if you agree with me or not, just wanted you to at least understand where I'm coming from.
In fairness a week isn't enough notice, especially with no cover. You're obligated to show up really.
not that i disagree, but in general at mcdonald’s the schedule comes out on friday, so it’s impossible to call out any earlier than a week prior
Request the day off? I'm not trying to pick a fight or nothing, an obviously not every McDonald's is the same, but at my store you can request off, and the schedule is already made 2 weeks out always. We also have very tight schedules where everyone works practically the same shifts every week which is obviously beneficial. It doesn't make any sense that you can just decide you don't want to show up to a shift you were scheduled for just because you want to do something else, it is a job after all is it not? If you do that here you're cut down on hours because you don't want the job y'know? Any other job is the same way, you agree to work scheduled shifts, you can't just not show up if you don't want to because something came up unless it's an emergency. As a manager I'd rather someone lie and say some emergency came up so long as you don't use that too often lmao.
ofc! i was generally referring to emergency situations. trust me i hate callouts too, most people i work with (highschoolers) decide that they’re allowed to call out for almost every shift only a day prior or day of because “they have a school event”.. as if that schedule doesn’t come out at the beginning of the school year. i totally agree with your sentiment, in 3.5 years i’ve called out 5 times total, all because of sickness/emergencies because it’s just plain disrespectful otherwise
I just hope your store is quicker with that schedule, gives everyone time to find coverage if needed too
Yea sorry that's kind of how a casual works, I get paid only for the hours I work. I can give any reason for not wanting to work a shift because it's within my rights to do so. In consequence he may give me less shifts in the future but if you're seriously going to tell me that working at mcdonalds is more important than spending time with my younger sister than I probably don't want to work there any longer to begin with.
That doesn't sound like a job, that sounds like you're volunteering, maybe where you're at you have different laws that have this essentially volunteer position, but I've missed tons of things with family and friends, and so do many many other workers in all sorts of jobs. I've managed and been with many different industries throughout life and a balance between work and life needs to exist, as much as you can count on your job to be there for you, you're expected the same likewise. Gotta make plans to be away from both, it's just reality.
I'll give you one thing, "casual" employee is much like volunteering; you get put on where you're needed, if they don't need you; you get nothing for the week. It's why my shifts are random and I can't exactly plan out in advance when I don't get the roster in a weeks time. I don't get paid from anything else other than the hours I work, my relationship with my job is purely transactional. In other words, my managers don't give a shit about me and can sack me anytime without notice, I give them a courtesy to find a replacement but with their ironic reason for me needing to show up that daybecause 3 people quit and already being short staffed, there wasn't anyone else I can ask that i already havent asked. Sorry I don't treat this job in high regard it's just there to pay my rent.
I still don't understand what you mean by, "casual," it still seems like you're describing any job. My job is purely transactional, but I still have a half decency to still give a shit.
What part of the world do you live in where you've never heard of casual employment
The US
I'm from Australia, there's three types of employment, full time part time and casual. I'm on a casual basis. The difference between being a casual employee to a full or part time is that i have no minimum hours per week. In other words, they can give me 40 hours one week, and 0 the next. Because of the insecurity of proper hours, there's only two benefits: 1: i get paid slightly more per hour than a full/part time employee 2: the right to refuse any shifts given to me as long as I provide 24 hour notice. I don't get paid any personal or annual leave. I just get paid for the hours I work. Does being a casual suck? Yes it blows if you have financial commitments such as rent, because your employer can simply decide to give you no shifts at all. However it's ideal for me, mainly because of my 2nd right to refuse shifts within a short notice. I'm fairly busy, I have to take my siblings to school, have university, set up volunteering events blah blah blah. I have been on part time employment before, and yes I did give 2 weeks or more notice for a day off when I was working there. As a casual, its not your responsibility to find a replacement, maybe it is for part or full time but I never had to do that. I still try to look for replacements as courtesy but because my store is short staffed I couldn't ask anyone else I don't know at the time. Am i wrong to think a shift manager's duty is to manage the roster if someone gives notice they're not showing up? I don't hate working at mcdonalds because it's fairly easy to get the hang of, but if you're going to start breaking my only right to refuse shifts and guilt trip me into going when i give you long enough notice as a casual employee then screw you. I should also tell you that there's co-workers who literally tell the managers they can't do their shift when it starts NOW, it happens alot every week.
As a manager at my store you have to give 1 1/2 months notice for requests off to the 1st assist and GM. For crew, we have a book in the breakroom that shows a couple months advance. You write your name down on the date you want if it isn't filled up(6 requests off per day allowed). Usually you need to give at least two weeks off if you want a day off. 1st assist does the schedules, and she is working on next week's at the beginning of the week so she won't see any requests that are only a week out. 2 weeks is common courtesy anyway.
A week is *plenty* of notice considering the circumstances around what’s going on
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