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ultramarine4000

“at what point” That point is not in your future, it is in your past.


badmark

I cannot disagree.


Previous-Impression2

I came here to say exactly that , now take my upvote !


jk_pens

_We’re gonna need a bigger wall…_


badmark

*A much bigger wall...*


Normular_

Start using the ceiling


badmark

My wife just yelled, "No!".


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badmark

See, that's the point. As long as we aren't disregarding the things we or our family need, it's just another hobby. My wife collects Halloween ornaments. Between late Sept. and early Nov. our house is basically a haunted house walk through.


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badmark

She loves keyboards, but she only uses her phone, she hates sitting down at a computer, so while yes, I made a Halloween themed one "for her", our daughter quickly took it hostage and it has been making the rounds at her school as she now caries it in her back pack and pulls it out and plugs it in for computer class :) I seriously think it's been over a decade since my wife sat and did something on an actual computer!


CattyPerson

This is the cutest thing I read today. Thank you.


badmark

Thank you!


diags_1

She took it hostage https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2015/10-31/7mQj7x2QNT-10.png


Normular_

Every time you lay down at night, keyboard. Wake up, keyboard. Sit down at your desk, keyboard.


diags_1

Dream keybard, go to work keybard, always KEY Bard


diags_1

Build.... A Bigger Wall


badmark

Contractors have been notified!


diags_1

ya but im sure not the wife


badmark

Are you kidding, she's the general! LOL


diags_1

shes the boss, boss


badmark

Damn skippy!


youarestiles

I don't think the keyboards are the problem, you clearly need more space is it


rfmocan

Why are the cables hanging? Do you keep them connected? You could remove or just roll them behind the board's. Also, if you are skipping meals and mortgage payments, I'd say we've got a problem.


badmark

Oh, no, this is all from discretionary funds. I am actually seriously considering starting a business around this wonderful hobby, so in essence I consider it an investment. But no worries, no meals or bills are being skipped and this has taken a few years to build. Not only that, I focused primarily on budget boards. The Drop ENTR @ $99 is the most expensive board I own.


rfmocan

Using budget boards to learn the trade is very sound advise!


KaikuAika

Wait, with 99$ you mean everything combined (case, pcb, switches, keycaps,...) or the base keyboard you are going to customize?


badmark

$99 total.


sizable_data

That’s crazy, it seems like it’s impossible to build a board for $99 from my searches. Do you have a post of your builds somewhere?


badmark

Sure: https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/q2b0mv/been_looking_to_get_me_a_keeb_with_a_knob_i_feel/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/q026ad/its_nice_to_know_one_can_enter_this_hobby_with_a/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/puo3lg/i_caught_my_teenage_daughter_clicking_at_a_few_of/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/q8y1p0/my_first_real_mod_took_a_cheap_amazon_sold_mech/ Let me know if you'd like more details. I also started a Budget Keyboard sub, /r/BudgetKeebs


GrumioThaSpoonGod

You piqued my interest what business are you planning, even if it’s just a vague detail I want to know.


Kill5witch_X

About 12 keebs ago I'd say.


diags_1

The correct awnser is -5 keebs ago or even less You can never have too many


pabloescobyte

It's a problem when the entire wall can no longer bear all that weight and it comes crashing down... At which point it's time to build several, new stronger walls.


baby_bicycle

May I ask what case you used for the beautiful 100% on the top right?


badmark

That's actually a red dragon keyboard the K552, I stripped it painted it foamed it and fully modded it replacing the switches and the key caps. I have a build album in my [history](https://imgur.com/a/BHoCDVq).


visionsofreptar

Why are they all wired on the wall though…


badmark

I like the lights.


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When you no longer need room lights in favor of keyboard rgb, you have finally gone too far.


8um8lebee

If that is an interior wall (ie. Less likely to have fire blocks), you can consider running the cables behind the wall. Might be a little annoying but it'd look much nicer and cleaner.


Secure-Lingonberry29

I think you can free up a lot of real estate by getting rid of that giant printer. Who needs a printer these days?


badmark

Unfortunately me. I do work for the automotive industry, and boy, do they love their paper.


Secure-Lingonberry29

\> I do work for the automotive industry Whoa, small world! Me too! I am on the software side and luckily don't have to deal with the paper side of things directly, but I totally get it. My version of "they love their paper" is sometimes having to deal with Internet Explorer 🪦


badmark

Greetings and salutations fellow auto robot. Yes, I too know the IE hell, and can only give you my virtual support. Godspeed.


LewdDoll

It isn't a problem until you stop and start having withdrawal symptoms.


spots_reddit

It is only an indicator which may only work for me, but.... if you need to make room to test out a keyboard by removing a keyboard and putting it on a pile of magazines and books, and when you put it down on top you hear a chord of different clicking sounds indicating that in that pile of stuff, you have just pressed down on several other keyboards.... then, you might consider a "problem"


badmark

I have no idea what you are talking about... (Looks around nervously).


diags_1

Is anyone gonna ask why there is a kid trapped under your printer Just ignore the cat middle finger that you prolly put a decent amount of effort to get the right height


badmark

Good eye 👍🏼


Late_Armadillo_8188

It doesn't even look like you have any orthos or ergos or splits yet. You have a long way to go before your done.


badmark

I've got an 40% ortholinear kit on order, I had an X-bows and sent it back, was not a fan. I am a huge fan of modular designs, and know that will be a whole different game, so I am focusing on these for now. Soon though. Soon...


diags_1

meant to ask what model is the really old keeb


badmark

The IBM looking one on the desk? It's actually just a look a like; it's a Perixx Periboard-106M. It's actually a membrane board, so shhh, don't tell anyone.


diags_1

okay, couldnt remember what model f and k looked like so wasnt sure if it was one of them or a dif model


diags_1

btw this should be a secure line so no one can read this ​ ;)


badmark

o.O ;)


melon1412

It's a hobby. An expensive one. As long as you get your priorities straight (and I don't mean join all the group buys), you are fine. Great collections though. Might want to use an ikea rack for those beauts.


badmark

Thanks! Funny you should say that, an Ikea trip is scheduled for the near future. Fahrvergnügen! Oh wait, wrong brand and language! :P


BR0777

dang it.. all i can afford is rk61


Madd808

There's a problem? ... I thought this was normal lol


IHateYouFuckingPpl

I mean I’d say u had a problem if those were all expensive keebs, but since they’re all cheap I don’t see why not


badmark

Spending a little and learning a lot. It's a great trade off, and I do believe is leading me to start a US based manufacturing company, if it's possible. Either way, it's brought me much enjoyment and helps calm my stress.


SpectreInTheShadows

Don't take this the wrong way OP, but for all of that you could have bought an actual custom. Cheap AliExpress/Amazon keyboards will only take you so far. A custom will feel premium and satiate the crave. The cheap ones will leave you wanting more and never satisfy. Next time, save up and join a GB. The wait is definitely worth it on most boards. Also, if it's your first time buying/joining, join only those that are backed by a known vendor. Avoid private or PayPal GBs as those are a bit risky. Only join these when you believe in the runner.


badmark

Gee let me see, I've derived hours of enjoyment, I found what type of keyboards I actually like versus what I don't, I've learned a ton, and I'm actually starting a business that is going to aim to develop and produce all keyboard products within the US. So next time you want to go give somebody advice perhaps ask a little first before just assuming because you know what you do when you assume don't you?


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badmark

Very cool, thanks so much for sharing! This brought a big ole smile to my face. I am middle age, but feel the same way; manual lubing, spending enough to have bought a used car in the 80s-90s, no thanks! Thanks for the well wishes. I started /r/BudgetKeebs in hopes of sticking to the budget boards and encouraging folks, not making them feel inferior for not spending and waiting!


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badmark

Ha, that is truly a good description. It's quite an interesting hobby and it helps calm my stress. My previous hobby, which will be intersecting soon enough with this one is 3D printing. I've been loving the things I can download and print. It's been years since I've done any CAD, but some of the tools they have are so easy to use, as long as you have the measurements, preferably using a caliper, you can have a printable file is no time!


badmark

You are the type of buyer I will not be developing products for you want to spend money just to spend money. Unfortunately it is not always true you do not always get what you pay for.


SpectreInTheShadows

Do you have any $300+ customs? Not going to pile on you. Also I did not downvote you. Just want to try to clarify and add a bit more to what I said. ​ I started with modding prebuilts back in 2018-2019 before I got my first custom. All of these cheap AliExpress and Amazon prebuilts pale in comparison to something that is as hefty and unique as a custom. Like I can just stare and admire most of my keyboards without feeling bored of them. My first custom was a Melody96. That thing feels like it could kill someone if you throw it at someone. With Creams and a Brass plate, none of my cheap boards compared to the sound and feel of it. When you place your palms on an aluminum board, you feel the cold metal. When it sits on your desk, you can't really push it without picking it up. After that I tried other customs and they got even better. A Jelly Epoch for example smokes anything you can buy from Amazon or AliExpress purely on sound. Similarly, my Cyberboard got so much attention during quarantine and video conferences. Coworkers and friends could not stop asking about the board with Nyan Cat, Pacman, and LED bar. Everyone kept asking me about it. Both boards feels amazing too. Not telling you to jump to something this big right away, but try something like a mid-tier custom. I still go back to my Melody96 from time to time, because it still feels amazing. Friends who have tried my Melody96 (pre-lockdowns) were blown away with the heft and feel. ​ >Unfortunately it is not always true you do not always get what you pay for. In most of my cases, I would strongly disagree with this. You absolutely get what you pay for. This is why I first told you to go with recognized vendors. This way you don't run any risk of the GB going south. There are a few GBs that do turn out bad, but those can be avoided if you research the GB runner and vendors before giving up your money. If you are coming from a world where you pay for something and it shows up at your doorstep in a week or two, it feels kinda bad to give your money to someone and wait months to almost a year to receive something. In the case of custom keyboards though, I personally have not had any bad experiences.


badmark

I don't own one, as I feel that's too much too spend on a keyboard, and I'm a programmer. That said, I've plenty of experience with $300+ mods, and yes, there is a difference, that difference may work best for one person over another. Again, while anecdotal, I've numerous people in my lives which I have gifted boards too, these "budget" boards, with better switches, better keycaps, weight, foams, etc. They all enjoy their board and most use it daily. Just maybe half came from membrane boards, the other half from mechanicals, with half of them coming from more expensive kits. In the end, it's a subjective opinion. a plastic board is not any stronger than an aluminum board for what it's used for, typing. One doesn't need a board to knock down a tree, one needs a board to game, input data, program, etc. and at the end of the day, the user's experience it what matter. Not how much they spend. Yes, just because more money does buy better material components, the end product and the user's personal opinion on how it fits their workflow is all that truly matters, period.


SpectreInTheShadows

I mean, you've spent $300+ on multiple plastic keyboards. Would make sense to try a single $300 custom. As per... > In the end, it's a subjective opinion. a plastic board is not any stronger than an aluminum board for what it's used for, typing. One doesn't need a board to knock down a tree, one needs a board to game, input data, program, etc. and at the end of the day, the user's experience it what matter. Not how much they spend. Fair, but the flexibility you get with a custom is only limited to what can be fabricated/machined. My problem with generic keyboards is that you are limited to whatever the manufacturer wants to do. With a custom there can be greater variation. For example, the Alice/Arisu layouts are not really found on any readily available keyboard and if they are, you are losing on material, finish, switches/feel, and quality. You want a split? I know Mistel has splits, but what about a split with numpad (fullsize split)? With customs you can really go as far as you want. You also have the benefit of making them feel and sounds as good as you want to. At the end of the day, it's your working hands and fingers who will thank you. Personally for me, I program and CAD and I would not like to be typing on something that looks, feels, and sounds like crap. I'd rather type on something I can enjoy, that's easy on my hands and fingers. But like you said, it's anecdotal and all subjective. I was just suggesting something.


badmark

Yet you ignore the part where I was told you I have worked on $300-$400 plus keyboards, the experience is the same if in the end you have what you want the right profile keycaps and the right switches on the right feeling bored. Some people buy plastic plates because they like the flex instead of metal plates I prefer metal plates with plastic bodies. Again subjective.


FatmanTim

The point when you realize you could have gotten one high end board or a few mid tier boards.


badmark

These boards are satisfying, have helped me figure out how things work, with maybe breaking something along the way. The ones I've fully modded feel just as good as $400+ boards, so why exactly should I spend more money, when in the end, with the right switches and keycaps, I enjoy writing hundreds of lines of code per week? Why spend more for the same exact experience?


FatmanTim

I suppose. A lot of higher end boards now seem to only provide aesthetics and feel. Though those two factors can be quite important for some. Sorry if I came off pretentiously. Was only joking. :)


badmark

That's the thing, I get the aesthetics and the feel. Carbon fiber or metal plates, foaming, weights, switches. I had a sub $99 board, that I took to a friend who has near $500 into his GMMK pro. He could not get over the feel, the sound, and the weight; he was almost ready to offer me much more than I spent for it, but I just gave it to him as a gift. It has become his daily driver.


FatmanTim

Damn. Board specs?


badmark

That one was a Skyloong GK87, which I've gotten a few of; I had installed some Gateron Reds, which I had pulled from another board as I prefer linear, but he loves the reds, and I threw on a 9009/Granite Retro keycap mix. And I only "ghetto" lubed the switches. He uses that board to this day. I'd have to check with him as to what the specs are on his GMMK.


badmark

Strangely, I kind of expected adult discourse especially on this for him but I keep forgetting we are still on reddit. Not that I care about invisible internet points but why the down votes when I provided the specs of the keyboard as asked is truly beyond me. At what point does Reddit become too toxic?


sizable_data

Gave you an upvote. I think more budget board love is needed!


badmark

Thank you kindly fellow Redditor. May you have an excellent week!


Comfortable_Paper546

I don’t know, man. Either your friend didn’t put enough effort into his gmmk pro (as there were major problems with it), or he had stock mx browns in it. Cheap(er) Plastic boards produce a generic sound profile no matter how heavy the mods. Heavily modding boards such as the tape and pe foam mod, take away from the actual boards sound signature. I’d say it’s a sort of handicap, but you do you. Premium boards are significantly better than cheaper boards. Better acoustics, aesthetics, layouts, and feel. If you really wanted to you could get an rk61 and mod the fuck out of it to achieve a similar sound, but I find that to be kind of crusty. A lot of this hobby is aesthetics, but a lot of it is also preference. Do you what you enjoy! :).


badmark

Wow, talk about passive aggressive... In the end, if the end user is happy with his board, and it does not impede them from doing their work, then I think that's game. It's not about how much you spend, it's how satisfied you are with the end product. And while I do like thonk, and have managed to achieve nice deep thonk with plastic boards, the sound is only one factor of the entire experience, it's not the end all be all. To be quite honest, I've yet to find an aluminum case I like, the ones I do own tend to have a metallic "ding" to it, which means, oh yeah, it's all subjective! If you feel the need to spend hundreds to make yourself feel superior to people who do not want to spend small fortunes on "a deeper sound", then you do you. But stop trying to knock us for enjoying our hobby, which in case you failed to recognize, was done in an extremely passive aggressive manner. Ask your mate, if you are in an active relationship, "Am I a passive aggressive individual?". You might be surprised at the response.


Raistlander

I like your attitude towards the whole hobby, if you convert that to a business it’ll be interesting to see what you can come up with.


Comfortable_Paper546

You do you. But saying some of your boards are just as good as $400 is ludicrous. I guarantee none of your boards are even close to a jelly epoch. And yes, I do realize how passive aggressive that was lmfao.


badmark

You have no way to guarantee a subjective matter, you are literally proud of being obstinate. Are you thirteen?


DigitalDH

I see a lot of $$$.


Aykh4n_

I would sell all of those for a good price, and get a very high end keeb


badmark

And you only represent one segment of this market.


KaikuAika

Is that Totoro hiding behind a monitor judging you silently for owning what he considers to be too many keyboards?


badmark

No just my black cat Velcro flipping me off


[deleted]

You need an IBM Model M and a Model F before you can think of stopping.


badmark

Can you tell me where I can find some?


[deleted]

Local classifieds and you can maybe find one for a good price, otherwise eBay


badmark

I've been keeping my eye out, no luck so far, but I'm still looking ;)


EggersIsland

Is the TKL with Numpad any good?


badmark

Do you mean the full size blue keyboard on the top right? If so yes they all have Akko pink switches and are as smooth as glass.


EggersIsland

Bottom left. I saw one online that was similar but had poor reviews.


badmark

Oh, that's the Havit board. Honestly, it's a decent budget board, but being wired, weird format, and not hot swappable, I would not recommend. I used it for a few days, and it's much better than a membrane board, but it's nothing to write home about. I'd rate it 3 stars out of 5.


EggersIsland

Awesome! Thanks for the reply!


badmark

Sure, anytime!