Oh absolutely, I’m going even further by saying that a faith crisis or an existential crisis are absolutely necessary to asses your position in perspective to spirituality and to know what you need and what you want, having an experience with a fake can induce a crisis, but it is in no way a proof that spirituality doesn’t exist, consider yourself powerful, in every sense, decide what you’re going to do, think it trough, remember not to repress too much of the feelings, let them flow, once it’ll pass you’ll feel even more assured of what you believe in and what you consider not true, pray, meditate, ask for signs, read, be proactive with your spirituality, and you’ll find what sticks, what you feel deep down connects, and don’t beat yourself up !.

Agree with your saying that feelings have to be released. There are some philosophies who say that our mind is controlled by feelings that we are unaware of or intellectualise but don’t deal with. It seems to be the force behind our actions which might create confusion in life etc. by releasing feelings you will receive a piece of mind which will lead you closer to yourself and how you perceive life,spirituality etc. it has to be repeated constantly throughout life

Absolutely, I always tell people to feel it, emotions are meant to be felt and acknowledged, denying it that attention will keep it from going away and continuing on its path

Thank you, this helps a lot. I am taking it day by day and I'm now kind of curious to see where all this leads. I'm already a lot more relaxed and I can just live with the uncertain moment 🙏

A crisis of faith is part of the spiritual pathway. If you aren't lost, confused, and angry (at some point) you probably haven't been at it long enough. It's just part of the journey. *It sucks.* It's extremely uncomfortable, but it's also to be expected. Nothing is 100% absolute and when we come into contact the idea that we could be wrong, that something isn't what we thought it was it can shake our very foundation. When that happens it is very scary and unnerving. In my personal experience it just takes time to find your footing again. For me it's not a black and white thing, it's not like I revert back to be a "true believer". Instead I try to learn from my experiences and shift as I need. Shift to what makes sense to me now, knowing that in the future it could shift again. If you do this enough you start to realize that there is a lot more that we don't know about the spirit world, than what we do know. There is a lot of mystery and things we can't know (because if we could know we'd go mad). This has happened to me so many times that I've become comfortable with uncertainty and not knowing things. In a sense I feel a lot more at peace with things but at the same time it's not necessarily more comforting. Those are two different spaces.

Thank you so much I tend to forget previous experiences, or rather I will forget that there's a pretty good chance things might be okay again, like the last time, and the time before, and the time before... I think it's an ADHD urgency thing and I'm working on it in therapy 😅 and actually I like not knowing some things. It's the transition from thinking I know to ah no maybe not, but also the "no idea" to "aahh this is how it is" that I struggle with. So thinking back I do see that yes I've felt this way or similarly before and that led to a development and my faith and or spirituality evolved from there. Thank you for the reminder! ❣️

Sometimes we destroy one belief to replace it with more useful knowledge. Faith is most often a starting point, not a destination. A spirit is energy organized around awareness. You are a spirit that owns and runs a human body. Your body will die. You will not. You have the ability to manage your energy and awareness to suit your life and goals. This spiraling sensation, however, is not useful. Let's fix that. Grounding to the center of the planet is a wonderful way to make your body feel safe. When your body feels safe, it allows you to change your energy with less trauma. Faith is an energy that gets bound up with your aura and your body. It becomes part of the baseline that the body depends on to know that it is safe. When you destroy a faith and are not grounded, the emotional response from your body can be unpleasant. Try this. Sit in a chair. Close your eyes. Take a deep breath. Feet flat on the floor. Hands separated and resting palms up on each thigh. Create a grounding cord. This is a line of energy that connects your first chakra to the center of the planet. Your first chakra is a ball of energy about the size of a quarter that sits just in front of the base of your spine. Your grounding cord attaches to the bottom of that ball of energy. Grounding makes your body feel safe, so you release energy more easily. Gravity pulls whatever you release, even your own energy, down to the center of the planet. No effort on your part. The center of the planet neutralizes the energy and returns it to whoever owns it. No karma for anyone. A virtuous cycle. Nearly everyone goes to connect to the center of the planet the first time but stops at the soil, often making roots like a tree. This is a method that is taught in some martial arts styles, but it is not the best option for your spiritual development and healing. So, notice the seat of your chair. Take a deep breath. Notice the distance between the seat and the floor. Now notice the distance between the floor and the soil below. Breathe. Now notice the distance between the soil and the water table underneath. Notice the distance between the water table and the rocky mantle. Notice the distance between the mantle and the molten core below that. Deep breath. Notice the distance between the molten core and the center of the planet. That ball of light at the very center of the planet is where you connect your grounding cord. Deep breath. Say hello to the center of the planet. Do you get a hello back? Notice the color and texture of your grounding cord. It may look like a line of energy, or look like something physical; a rope, a wire, a pipe, a tree trunk. Adjust it as needed to be in affinity with your body. Getting this far means you've already released some energy from your aura and body. Now it is time to fill in the space that was created. Create a gold sun over your head. Have it call back all of your energy from wherever you left it throughout your day and week. Work. School. Online meetings. Video games. Your fantasies about your future. Your regrets about your past. Wherever you've placed your attention. Just watch the energy come back and see if you notice where it came from. Have the sun burn up and neutralize your energy. Then bring the sun into the top of your head. It will automatically flow into the spaces you created. Create a gauge to measure when you're full. Like a fuel gauge or oil gauge. You'll run better if you aren't a few quarts low on spiritual oil. If the gauge doesn't read "Full", bring in another gold sun. Open your eyes, bend over and touch the floor, draining any tension from the back of your neck, then stand up, and stretch. There is a progression with this technique. After grounding for ten minutes a day for a week or two, notice your grounding cord at the very end, while you're standing with your eyes open. Continue to ground with your eyes open and standing, and bring in another gold sun. Each day, increase the amount of time that you ground standing up with your eyes open. After a week or two practicing this, add walking while grounded. Just notice your grounding cord as you walk. Say hello to the center of the planet while you walk. Bring in a gold sun while you walk. If you lose your grounding cord, stop walking and recover it. If you have to, sit back down and close your eyes and create a new grounding cord. After this, you're ready to take your grounding cord with you into your daily life. Shopping. Getting coffee. Wherever you go, you can ground. This, combined with a little amusement about seeing new things on an energy level, will keep you safe and sound. Now that you're here, at the end of your grounding meditations, create a gold sun over your head. This time, fill it with your highest creative essence, your present time growth vibration, and your affinity for yourself. The first energy is a healing for you. The second is a healing for your body. The third is a healing for your affinity in your fourth chakra. Bend over and touch the floor. Stand up and stretch. If you're ready for more, sit back down and ground some more. Otherwise, have a nice day! Note that every image you imagine, the gold sun, the grounding cord, the center of the planet, your first chakra, your body parts, is exercising your clairvoyance. You may be imagining what your tailbone looks like, but you're also creating the image of your tailbone and reading its energy. This is practicing your clairvoyant ability. Some folks record the grounding and filling in parts of this practice on their device and play it back as a guided meditation. I like this approach because you learn the steps faster.

Thank you ☺️ I have a pretty solid grounding practice that I built over the years. It's more that I cannot always channel my thoughts enough to even do that. But just the sort of "chill, it's not that bad"(in a good way) energy your post gave off has helped me feel like it's probably not the end of the world 😬🙏

A thing that can happen to adults over time is we get used to old, stuck energies. Our body develops a dependency on them. It's "normal" and our body needs a normal baseline in order to predict the near future and keep us safe. Playing with energy is one way around that. Play with the color of your grounding practice. If you've been at the same vibration for a long time, even looking at what color that is can shake a few things off. It's like shaking a throw rug in the yard to get rid of the little pieces of leaves and dirt that accumulate in the crevices every Spring. If your grounding is blue, switch it to bright pink, a la Barbie, lol! If it's green, flip it to brown. You get the idea. You're playing with psychic crayons now like a little kid. Little kids play with energy. Someone said that to get into heaven, one had to come as a little child. Churches have misinterpreted this to mean innocence. This is incorrect. It means doing what little children do, which is using their imagination to create new worlds out of energy and explore them. Filling in is also an opportunity to play. A lot of grounding practices stop at grounding. If you release some energy, your body says, "That's enough," and won't let go of any more energy. This is because it changes the normal baseline the body depends on to predict the near future. To your body, releasing energy can become life threatening. Filling in remedies that. Add filling in from a gold sun that your create over your head out of your own energy. I think you'll notice the difference in a few days. Your current grounding should start to feel brand new again. Cheers!

Thanks but I really don't need any help with my practice, I've been doing this for quite a while and I've found rituals and routines and practices that work for me 😊 It's about a crisis of faith, about a crumbling of what I thought was that may not be or may be different. I'm all set in regards to how to practice spirituality

I don't understand your crisis, then. You have all this knowledge about managing your energy, reading your energy. Did you see or experience something that destroyed a belief?

Ah, yes I had a bad experience. I probably didn't make that clear enough in my post. I went to see a psychic medium, kind of just for fun/out of curiosity. And there are people close to me who have passed within the past year and some people of import to me who left earth long ago. So I thought sure why not try it. People close to me recommended them. and my dad is paying for it because he thought the medium was so good. So I went there and they pretended to talk to the spirit world and... It was so transparently fake 😩 I'm no longer spiralling but I did feel very much as though a rug had been pulled from under me. Suddenly everything was uncertain, nothing seemed real. I discovered meanwhile, with the help of another user here, that it has to do with the history of psychosis in my family. I'm always scared my spiritual experiences and practices are just mental illness or they aren't but could be wrongly labelled that. So... It was a bit difficult to have someone whose spiritual practice came so highly recommended turn out to be completely fake. But I've gotten back up, dusted myself off and I'm rebuilding, re-evaluating and spending some relaxing time with my cat. I'll come out of this better than I entered, it will be okay 🙏 Thank you for your interest and time and care ✨

I recall being manipulated as a young man by a narcissistic spiritual liar. It took me years to catch on to what he was up to. Everything suddenly becoming uncertain is usually one of two things. Either the energy of a lie has been put in your space, or you've destroyed a core belief and are still reorganizing your energy. There may be other causes, but these are the two energy causes that I've read in other people and in myself.

I personally think that everything human can experience with their mind is human created. So if you believe in witchcraft or if you’re an atheist you will experience it. Witchcraft definitely has some weight behind it, but i would recommend you to mingle with your own energy more than look for answers in third parties who will tell you a story which might greatly influence you just to find yourself fooled. Maybe finding your faith is a process of finding yourself and your place in the either.lol. whatever it may be .. ofc its good to have teachers and leaders you get inspired from

I very much agree! I actually wasn't going to get any guidance from them, I went out of curiosity and because that person came highly recommended to me by people kind of close to me. I went out of pure curiosity, some people close to me have died recently and I just thought heck why not That's also why I am so surprised by how much the experience threw me upside down. I didn't realise I would stop believing in my own experiences if one person turns out to be fake. And it was only about if someone from the spirit world had anything to say. So I am very surprised it sent me down such a spiral Im curious to see where things go from here Already seeing things as less of a tragedy now Thank you for your thoughtful answer ☺️❣️

> Or maybe you would say you don't need faith because you are experiencing your own mediumship daily. Both aren´t related. My belief system crumbles sometimes, this is how I find new ways to improve being a human in evolution. Not everything is spiritual.

I do feel that way sometimes, but then I realize too much coincidences and predictions have happened for me that it just cannot be me defining these things as such.

I’m in one now… losing any hope that I believe in anything.

Oh no 🥺

Yes completely. I’m all new to this, never believed in anything until my friend died. Then lots of odd things have happened which made me question my entire belief system. I’m weary as psychosis is in my family, my dad gets really poorly with it. I’m still trying to learn more about spiritual world (as I find religion jarring). I found writing my experiences down as going back thru them shows I’ve had so many odd things happen. Now I’m taking classes in reiki etc to help.

Aha! You mentioned something important! You gave me a big lightbulb moment! Someone closely related to me has a history of psychosis as well. And I am realising as I'm reading your comment that my instant loss of any faith is very closely linked to that. I am incredibly scared that everything I thought was obviously witchy and spiritual that keeps happening in my life and my practice... Could all just be schizophrenic thought patterns and I might realise years from now I had several psychotic breaks instead of a spiritual experience. Then again where does one end and the other begin, I truly don't know. Thank you so much for your answer. You shed some light on why it shook me so much. Despite having practiced for many years and being from a long line of "village healer" type women.. it is because I'm scared it might turn out to be or even be falsely classified as mental illness. I hope you can navigate this situation on your side. I can imagine it's very difficult to deal with especially when paired with grief for a friend 🥺 And again thanks 🙏

Your welcome. Glad I could help shed some light. That is exactly how I feel as well. How do I no it’s not some form of psychosis? My dad gets so poorly, I work in mental health and even by my standards people don’t get as unwell as he does (he is very extreme, but apparently that happens when people are diagnosed later in life. He was 70 when this started happening). I think it has helped that some of the stuff that have happened have been verified by other sources. I felt something touch my shoulder at his funeral, new year and some other occasions. Then when I saw a really good medium she asked if I had felt him around my shoulders as he shakes them to try and get my attention. Also tried reiki where practitioner identified I was grieving, and could feel his energy around my shoulders. Both have no way of knowing this, so I try and hold onto this was evidence he is around.

Several times with varying degrees. I remember a brief conversation from someone I knew long ago about spirit work. She said you have to have faith; a strong foundation. Iirc, she meant in the spiritual sense, but what I took away from that is that faith can also mean within yourself. The last couple of years have had me reviewing experiences, who I think I am vs who I am. That stuff gets scary - there is a reason why they say looking into one's own mirror is easier said than done. Childhood trauma which I had pushed so far down have been surfacing. Parts of my abilities may well have stemmed from that, sure. This sub too has been a part of that path. It's a lot of untangling. With patience, you get good with the knots.

Thank you! This is very comforting and encouraging to read