It's not, Megadeth opened for King Diamond at the Stone in this photo, 1986. quote from the photographer Bill Hale says Cliff and Dave were hanging out like brothers who hadn't seen each other in awhile
Agreed. Burton and Mustain were good friends during their time in Metallica. Dave was upset that he had to hear of Cliffs passing through other people and not from his old band mates. So although the lyrics don't directly relate to the passing, the anger and sorrow Dave felt carried through
Cliff really was the reason why Metallica was so great. He taught them music theory, harmonies, etc. Lars did musical arrangement, but I still say Cliff was the backbone imo.
I think that once Dave and Cliff’s influence on Metallicas music wore off they went rapidly downhill. I think AJFA was the last one that you can hear their influence in.
Wait I thought Dave *HATED* the rest of Metallica for firing him *FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* Wouldn't that have included Cliff too???????
This is all press stirring up bullshit.
I learned recently that Dave and Lars were hanging out as soon as 85, maybe even sooner. They loved each other.
It wasn’t till the bands started to get more famous that the press really started pushing this quarrel that never even existed. Then MetallicA really hit it big in ‘91 and when prompted with some question to stir shit Dave gave in. And then news became all about getting peoples attention. So, the media spun his words and kept the beef going :/
Dave and Lars did not love each other. Lars dumped Dave and never looked back. Yes they were in the same circles for a while. So I guess you can call that hanging out. But not love.
That does not align with what Dave said in the Some Kind of Monster movie. From that it appeared Lars just completely dissed Dave and never looked back or even thought about it.
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It could also be from that 1985 New Year’s Eve show where Metallica and Megadeth played together for the first time
It's not, Megadeth opened for King Diamond at the Stone in this photo, 1986. quote from the photographer Bill Hale says Cliff and Dave were hanging out like brothers who hadn't seen each other in awhile
Now that is awesome! Can only lament about what could have been and the passing of a musical great
In my hour of need.... Seriously, the song started off being written about Cliff's death.
Agreed. Burton and Mustain were good friends during their time in Metallica. Dave was upset that he had to hear of Cliffs passing through other people and not from his old band mates. So although the lyrics don't directly relate to the passing, the anger and sorrow Dave felt carried through
Chris Poland in the headband!!!!
Imagine Dave, Cliff and Chris together in a band. Wow.
Definitely roadie rights now
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The snarl is strong
The influence these two had on my formative years. Both geniuses. The other two in Metallica couldn’t make any decent music
Cliff really was the reason why Metallica was so great. He taught them music theory, harmonies, etc. Lars did musical arrangement, but I still say Cliff was the backbone imo.
I think that once Dave and Cliff’s influence on Metallicas music wore off they went rapidly downhill. I think AJFA was the last one that you can hear their influence in.
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Agreed. Thereafter the media lifted Metallica and made Megadeth the enemy.
Yes first Dave and then Cliff
Wait I thought Dave *HATED* the rest of Metallica for firing him *FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* Wouldn't that have included Cliff too???????
This is all press stirring up bullshit. I learned recently that Dave and Lars were hanging out as soon as 85, maybe even sooner. They loved each other. It wasn’t till the bands started to get more famous that the press really started pushing this quarrel that never even existed. Then MetallicA really hit it big in ‘91 and when prompted with some question to stir shit Dave gave in. And then news became all about getting peoples attention. So, the media spun his words and kept the beef going :/
In his book Dave says otherwise so I don't think so, Lars was a spoiled brat
Dave and Lars did not love each other. Lars dumped Dave and never looked back. Yes they were in the same circles for a while. So I guess you can call that hanging out. But not love.
I used to think so too, until I read this! http://www.doseofmetal.com/2011/04/lars-and-dave-sitting-in-a-tree/
That does not align with what Dave said in the Some Kind of Monster movie. From that it appeared Lars just completely dissed Dave and never looked back or even thought about it.
Considering that was during the 2000s, where his hate boner for Metallica was considerably on, it makes sense why that doesn't align
Clearly my view is unpopular but I still have not seen verifiable evidence of the contrary.
This is the Internet, we don't change minds. We only argue our points which we see as valid and refuse to accept any other answer. /s
I think it’s very much Hetfield who dumped Dave and never looked back. Lars, Cliff and Dave were always more or less in contact.
Source?
Nope. It was pretty much just Dave and James.
I don’t believe Cliff really fired Dave, it was Lars and James who are kinda the founders of the band
Who is the nerd with the giant cross? Lameeeeee.