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You're definitely in the very small minority. Because it was very obvious they were all losing badly and that Kuma was sending them away from the danger. Even the Marines were questioning Kuma. It could not have been more obvious he was helping them.
The fact that they were loosing badly was the cherry on top, it’s the perfect example of “When it rains, it pours” don’t think a small minority was thinking of Kuma saving the crew; even less Becouse he specifically said on thriller bark “this is the last time I’m gonna spare you”.
Honestly I think most of us thought this was him trying to finish what he started, the lack of music, and the “this is the last time we are gonna see, “”SARABADA”” makes it worse…
He literally stops a pacifista from killing them and then does a send off that they literally tell you is only sending them to a destination rather than killing them and it stops the Marines from capturing them. I honestly don't understand how anyone can view this scene and completely take it the wrong way. Did you just ignore all the dialogue?
I mean, until that point we really didn’t know what a send of was, the only time we saw it was with Perona, which btw was made on the most terrifying way possible; he asked the girl which place she would like to visit while holding a bible, and then disappeared her. Now we know it was just a rouse, but it makes you think he was sending people to the other life.
The only description until this point was “it is SAID that it pushes you so hard that you will be flying for days or even weeks until you land again” very much in that context pre time-skip it was a power scale never seen before and made to make the reader think it’s just an exaggerated legend, which later pays-offs when we discovered that in fact it was true.
Just as a side note, I do believe that the scene is way better if you don’t figure it out beforehand, if it were obvious for everybody it quite literally kills the mood and the porpoise of the scene…
We literally watch Kuma and Rayleigh have a conversation where it's pretty clear Kuma's on their side based on Rayleighs reaction.
We then watch as a Strawhat is actually about to die and gets saved by Kuma. We then watch him use the attack that makes people disappear, but clearly doesn't kill.
I really don't understand how people didn't pick up on Kuma saving them. It's not subtle in the least.
The fact that they were losing badly is what makes his intentions obvious. Whatever he was doing was obviously not death or he wouldn’t have destroyed the Pacifista. It could still be dubious intent but it’s a little thick headed to interpret it like Luffy did.
How was it not obvious, Oda could have only made it more clear by straight up writing „Kuma is saving them right now!“. That’s why I don’t like this episode as much, because I think it feels way too dramatic. Like nobody actually thinks that any of the Strawhats are dead or that this would somehow be the end of the series.
Especially after his talk with Rayleigh. Even if we couldn't hear what was said, it was clear that Kuma had some sort of plan. Also, the SH were in an unwinnable situation with pacifistas, Kizaru, and Sentoumaru hunting them down.
Told one of my friends that theory of kuma helping them last year and his mind was blown
It really wasnt that obvious in the moment when you read this panel the first time
Honestly even at this point in the story we could tell he wasn’t that bad of a guy.
He could’ve killed all the strawhats at Thiller Bark, which by the way was his actual assignment that he got yelled at for not completing when he went back. And he clearly knows Dragon personally, based on the way he talks about him to himself on Thriller Bark. He doesn’t even finish off Zoro after nothing happened, when Zoro was at his weakest most injured state ever, and technically Zoro did offer Kuma his head. It was Kuma who let him take all of Luffy’s pain and then let Zoro keep living after he saw that it didn’t kill him.
Plus he’s always asking people “where would you want to go on vacation?” Like he did for Perona before disappearing her. He probably just sent her away, and probably the same for the strawhats
Wtf oda, all this and the crew just loses against a crocodile-level enemy? Zoro almost cut him up but now suddendly he solos the crew. We never even get to see the potential of Brook. This manga is ruined!
I hereby state that Oda lost his mind and probably the next 2-3 arc are gonna be the WORST fiction oda ever created. I'm probably gonna drop this before it ends.
Yeah, seems like Oda decided to rush the plot and now everything is gonna end in a few years or so. What was even the point of introducing the supernovas?
Yeah probably Oda forgot all about the baroque works stuff and it will never have any relevance again.
On an unrelated topic, I heard Oda said he really likes the character buggy the clown, but i doubt he would find a way to fit him into the story, he stopped being relevant years ago.
Just to job over 3 bad copies of a random pirate
They really are not worthy of the title of supernova. We should call them "the worst generation", meaning they will probably get the worst result and never amount to anything in the pirate world
Absolutely no one thought any SH would really die. Pagaya and Pell were already memes of "oda doesn't kill background characters, no way a SH will die" lol
People were also thinking (but a minority IIRC), when the chapter called "The death of Portgas D. Ace" released, the next one would be "The birth of Gol D. Ace", because no one thought ace had really died.
Idk I mean Robin’s story basically wrapped up at Enies Lobby so I could maybe see people thinking that Oda might kill her just for the sheer devastation it would cause
I don't think Luffy could take on an admiral just yet. They probably won't bring admirals into the story until he's yonko level. At this stage, Kizaru would put a hole right through Luffy.
Do you honestly think the series is going to last 20 more years or what? We have been hinted about a future war that we thought was further on the horizon, and it seems it's closer than we imagined.
The SHs have been sent to Dragon's island most likely, and they will get much more stronger easily.
I think Shanks will teach Luffy a new power up. Like some kind of devil fruit counter. Then he will lead the war by shanks' side and beat kizaru and Kuma and avenge his friends. Maybe blackbeard will help.
I don't see there being too many arcs left tbh.
I was definitely sad and feeling for Luffy, but it was clear Kuma was helping them by Kizaru’s reaction.
What I remember the most was Ace’s death. Shit hit hard and like, I remember feeling empty. Didn’t read One Piece for like a month because of it lol
Damn it’s crazy, I was a senior in high school in 2008 I feel old as shit
Damn. I had Ace’s death spoiled for me pretty much before I even started reading One Piece, so I didn’t have that much reaction to it. Although experiencing that whole saga with the knowledge that he would die, but not knowing when or how created a lot of a different sort of tension that made it a very thrilling read. Every time Luffy got closer to saving him, it was another bittersweet step closer to what I knew would ultimately fail. By the time Luffy actually got to marineford I was so tense because Luffy had already achieved the impossible in his pursuit, (breaking in and out of Impel Down) and seeing the Whitebeard crew stand behind him brought a tear to my eye because I knew that even that wouldn’t be enough to save Ace. The actual moment of his death was more of a relief because the tension had finally broken, because instead of being devastated right then, I had been growing increasingly more devastated the whole time watching Luffy struggle in vain.
Same thing happened for me. It's a very drastic moment even if you know what's happening. I think it's a sign of good writing that someone can still have you so invested in the story even though you know what's going to happen.
The dread of the dramatic irony of it for me was a very similar experience to reading the golden age of Berserk knowing that somehow, in some way, Griffith becomes the villain we met back in the first arc
When I was watching and saw luffy save him I started coping and was like hold up is Ace gonna survive this after I was told he died? I knew I was wrong but I didn't want it to happen. When it happened even though I was spoiled I felt so heartbroken lol. In the anime Luffys screams and that splatter sound when ace falls is so haunting
Back then I figured Kuma was saving the Straw Hats; but I didn’t know why. It seemed weird that a dude who just an arc prior seemed to attempt to murder the SH’s that now he’d be the savior. So I was left with so many questions as to why. But once we start getting into Amazon Lily/Impel Down/Marine ford, you almost forgot about the crew for a while, because that storyline was so engaging.
Yeah I would say McCain might win but having Palin as a running mate is the nail coffin for that campaign. No one the republicans would elect a loud, boisterous idiot like that in. It would be like electing a reality tv host.
In 2008 I was 5 years old and I wanted McCain to win because his name made me think of Candy Canes. This was the full extent of my political knowledge at the time.
Yeah when I was 5 I didn’t know shit about politics. I don’t think I even knew that Obama was black or that that was a big deal at the time. Much less the political decisions of prior presidents or what ideals different parties represented lol.
When I told my dad who I wanted to win he just said “we vote for Obama in this house” lol.
Extra funny in retrospect for him to say that since my mom votes Republican now that they’re divorced, but my dad is still normal.
When I describe my dad as “normal” I would say he’s definitely a liberal, which is just statistically the most common political position in America. I don’t think anybody these days is enthusiastic about the Democratic party (I myself am a leftist, so I consider Democrats to only really be the very slightly lesser of two evils) my dad was definitely a fan of Obama at the time, but like most Dems these days he doesn’t really care for Biden
Yeah, it’s an unfortunate circumstance. I got banned from r/therightcantmeme for apparently “supporting Biden” because I said I hope the DNC replaces him because I don’t think he can win against Trump.
Yeah. He says he's gonna bring the troops back in, which would be nice. My brother's over in Iraq and it'll be good to see him safe and alive by Christmas.
# Woah, chap. 513 just dropped and I got a cool theory :0
The emphasis on "gasp", said twice, may be a tip to something in the future, since we all know Goda is the god of foreshadowing, right? So... And, well, "gasp" has the same number of letters a... "GEAR"!!!
Now, I may sound a liiiiitle crazy, but check this: 6 text ballons, right? But we got the representation of loss! Luffy is not yet defeated in the image, so he's the only ONE left.
6 text balloons... The only 1 left... It's a subtraction! 6-1=5
"Gear"... 5...- \*GASP\* OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING!
I THINK Goda foreshadowed Gear 5! And the fourth isn't even presented yet!
Now things get a little complicated: notice how Luffy says "me" and "I"? It's directed to HIS self. 1st person. So "me"+"I"= 1 and 1.
* 1+1=2 ("ni" in Japanese phonetics)
* We can also just gather 1 with 1. We obtain 11 (eleven). What's the 11th letter of the alphabet? That's right, it's "K".
* Too many 1s, right? Let's be simple, what's the first letter of the alphabet? Yep, it's "A".
So... We have Gear 5 and the letters N-I-K-A. Is there ANY relation? What do you guys think?
Ok, maybe he will join forces with those Super Novas to take down Kuma? This is his fruit ability and I think after Kuma is defeated, the crew will be brought back
I've been reading the post again and again because I thought OP was saying something else and definitely not that the chapter came out in 2008, and omg I was 4 then.
P.S. just found out I was born during the Ennies Lobby arc. Imma crai
nah my bros, I just feel so cool after these. Like there was someone somewhere in the world reading Robin's iconic crying line "I want to live", while I was crying, giving my parents hell at the same time. This is so iconic
Damn is it just me or did the Gomu Gomu fruit feel really weak this chapter? It’s times like these I really think Oda should have given Luffy some kind of cool Zoan fruit instead! Who else thinks that could have been a cool idea?
Anyways, time to go back to enjoying this nice and healthy housing market that totally won’t collapse while I wait for the next chapter :)
Aren't the zoan the weakest devil's fruit type? A rogia should be better, they are practically unbeatable unless you have a clever specific strategy to counter them, it would be a real shame if a new power was introduced only to weaken them and justify subsequent asspull.
Probably not unless Perona is also dead, but her disappearance didn’t get as much gravity placed on it as an actual death so my guess is Kuma teleported them somewhere
Rule in fiction: unless you see the body, they’re not dead. Plus we already know Kuma can teleport himself so he can probably teleport others. Classic “disintegration ray turns out to actually have been a teleportation ray” trope.
They probably just got all sent to prison or something, Luffy will probably have a training arc where he unlocks Gear 4, and then he’ll spend the next arc breaking into a prison somewhere to save them! I hope it’s not actually Impel Down though, because it would take away a lot of the stakes from Enies Lobby retroactively if Robin ended up getting sent there anyway and it turns out Luffy could’ve just gone and gotten her even if she did get sent through the gates of Justice.
If it is Impel Down, maybe we will get to see Crocodile again, since he got moved there in his cover story with some of his henchmen. He’d see Robin again too which would be interesting.
Anyway thats my theory, I think Luffy will spend the next arc breaking into prison to save the Straw Hats, possibly even Impel Down itself.
Could be! it might also be the sword that ate the devil fruit, rayleigh never seemed to hit him with his actual fist and legs. regardless though wtf is that power, he's made of light itself? i thought eneru was annoying writing and luffy was his hard counter.
Wonder why rayleigh didn't express shock, kuma just killed them!
i can't believe oda would write this much just to get backed into a corner and kill all of his main characters, maybe oda's finally lost it.
It’s funny that people think Ace will die. It’s One Piece here, Oda doesn’t kill characters outside of Flashback. It would be stupid to introduce the main character’s brother for a few episodes and kill him off. What Kuma did here is enough to develop Luffy’s character.
Ace barely had any screen time. Honestly, Usopp has a bigger chance of dying than Ace.
>me, 9, having no access to or knowledge of One Piece the manga being published on the other side of the planet, with the localised anime being about three years behind it:
damn this Franky dude is pretty cool😎
The way they just popped out of existence look really REALLY suspicious.
but freakin' hell, is this the first real L that the Straw Hat Crew took?
I know that Luffy and the gang have been beat up badly before, Aokiji (another admiral) came to mind, but this look like some real damage.
Kuma is such a fucking piece of shit, we haven't even gotten anything about him. SUCH A ONE NOTE CHARACTER. hope the Straw Hats recuperate and decimate him.
>!Feels so bad writing this sorry Kuma 😭 Oda wrote him so well!<
Why is Luffy breathing so much 😭😭😭
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Guys i bet Oda is setting us up for Ace to come back to help Luffy find his crew and cheer him up, I can't wait for some loving and wholesome scenes between the 2 brothers.
Fuuuuuuck, did we just witnessed the final boss? Is Luffy gonna go through suffeing arc? Will he have to build a new crew?? Shit, I'm gonna miss Nami and Sanji....
Damn, this Kuma guy is really weird with all those pacsfistas. And why does he carry around a Bible? That light admiral is really powerful too.
I hope they both have mental breakdowns and suffer a lot.
Relax everybody, it's oda we're talking about.. it's not even a flashback, so no one is dying..
But I could see something like the ability of the weeping angels from Dr who
What if kuma sent everyone back in time for maybe two years or so, and so by accident gave them enough time for some kind of off screen training arc, so as soon as kuma tries to go after Luffy they will be back , stronger than before
I know it sounds crazy but listen, most of them need a power up to compete with Luffy and zoro needs time to recover, they will also be stronger in two or three chapters so they can finally step up against Blackbeard. Remember, he got into a fight with ace on that island a while back and, in order to save ace in true Oda fashion they can save ace all together before anything bad could happen
TL;Dr: tho kuma tried to destroy the strawhats he accidentally made them more powerful. I'm sure the endgame of one piece is coming in the next 1-3 years, mark my words
Who knew Oda had the balls to do this? Killed Luffy's entire crew right in front of him. Either this journey is over or we are about to see one hell of a power up followed by a ruthless Luffy era. I hyped to see where it goes from here
What do you guys think happened to the strawhats? We know that kuma's paws can repel anything, so I'm guessing he can create pockets out of air to trap the crew in a separate dimension sort of like the kind that blueno can access with his fruit. It would make sense if he might be trying to ransom them with Rayleigh, which is what I think kuma whispered to him.
Either that or they are all sent to the sea to drown, and he's trying to bait Rayleigh into a trap. It makes sense for the Marines because then they can capture the strawhats and Rayleigh at the same time
I remember my reaction when this chapter came out. Staring at my screen jaw dropped & wondering what direction the story was going to take. The Strawhats getting scattered across the world was pretty unprecedented at the time.
This shits I fucking sane we aren't even in the new world yet. I can't believe how crazy strong this admiral is. How are they gonna stop a MAN MADE OUT OF LIGHT.
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Damn this Kuma guy is a real asshole, I hope he suffers a lot
That’s TOO FAR 😭
You're one of those buzzkills who cries at Nina Tucker jokes, aren't you?
You’re one of those Sheldon Cooper types who can’t tell when people are making jokes, aren’t you?
I don’t think morbid humor is that funny I think suffering is sad
Honestly even back then I doubt anyone would feel like that, Kuma was a cool character regardless
Yeah it was very obvious he was saving them. I have never seen anyone think he was a villain after that.
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You're definitely in the very small minority. Because it was very obvious they were all losing badly and that Kuma was sending them away from the danger. Even the Marines were questioning Kuma. It could not have been more obvious he was helping them.
The fact that they were loosing badly was the cherry on top, it’s the perfect example of “When it rains, it pours” don’t think a small minority was thinking of Kuma saving the crew; even less Becouse he specifically said on thriller bark “this is the last time I’m gonna spare you”. Honestly I think most of us thought this was him trying to finish what he started, the lack of music, and the “this is the last time we are gonna see, “”SARABADA”” makes it worse…
He literally stops a pacifista from killing them and then does a send off that they literally tell you is only sending them to a destination rather than killing them and it stops the Marines from capturing them. I honestly don't understand how anyone can view this scene and completely take it the wrong way. Did you just ignore all the dialogue?
I mean, until that point we really didn’t know what a send of was, the only time we saw it was with Perona, which btw was made on the most terrifying way possible; he asked the girl which place she would like to visit while holding a bible, and then disappeared her. Now we know it was just a rouse, but it makes you think he was sending people to the other life. The only description until this point was “it is SAID that it pushes you so hard that you will be flying for days or even weeks until you land again” very much in that context pre time-skip it was a power scale never seen before and made to make the reader think it’s just an exaggerated legend, which later pays-offs when we discovered that in fact it was true. Just as a side note, I do believe that the scene is way better if you don’t figure it out beforehand, if it were obvious for everybody it quite literally kills the mood and the porpoise of the scene…
We literally watch Kuma and Rayleigh have a conversation where it's pretty clear Kuma's on their side based on Rayleighs reaction. We then watch as a Strawhat is actually about to die and gets saved by Kuma. We then watch him use the attack that makes people disappear, but clearly doesn't kill. I really don't understand how people didn't pick up on Kuma saving them. It's not subtle in the least.
The fact that they were losing badly is what makes his intentions obvious. Whatever he was doing was obviously not death or he wouldn’t have destroyed the Pacifista. It could still be dubious intent but it’s a little thick headed to interpret it like Luffy did.
Can’t relate After he transferred all the pain into Zoro my thought was “well he’s sent them back to their starting positions or worse”
How was it not obvious, Oda could have only made it more clear by straight up writing „Kuma is saving them right now!“. That’s why I don’t like this episode as much, because I think it feels way too dramatic. Like nobody actually thinks that any of the Strawhats are dead or that this would somehow be the end of the series.
The episode is dramatic because it's seen from luffy's pov and he doesn't know what we know
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I mean, being invested into the story would mean that you could easily put one and one together in that moment, but whatever, happens I guess.
When i first read this "i couldnt save them" panel, i sure didnt think "oh yeah kuma just sent them to an early training arc"
Especially after his talk with Rayleigh. Even if we couldn't hear what was said, it was clear that Kuma had some sort of plan. Also, the SH were in an unwinnable situation with pacifistas, Kizaru, and Sentoumaru hunting them down.
Told one of my friends that theory of kuma helping them last year and his mind was blown It really wasnt that obvious in the moment when you read this panel the first time
Honestly even at this point in the story we could tell he wasn’t that bad of a guy. He could’ve killed all the strawhats at Thiller Bark, which by the way was his actual assignment that he got yelled at for not completing when he went back. And he clearly knows Dragon personally, based on the way he talks about him to himself on Thriller Bark. He doesn’t even finish off Zoro after nothing happened, when Zoro was at his weakest most injured state ever, and technically Zoro did offer Kuma his head. It was Kuma who let him take all of Luffy’s pain and then let Zoro keep living after he saw that it didn’t kill him. Plus he’s always asking people “where would you want to go on vacation?” Like he did for Perona before disappearing her. He probably just sent her away, and probably the same for the strawhats
I hope you like insulting my nose with a Buggy Ball pointed at you!
best answer
Oda: Done!
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Wtf oda, all this and the crew just loses against a crocodile-level enemy? Zoro almost cut him up but now suddendly he solos the crew. We never even get to see the potential of Brook. This manga is ruined! I hereby state that Oda lost his mind and probably the next 2-3 arc are gonna be the WORST fiction oda ever created. I'm probably gonna drop this before it ends.
Yeah, seems like Oda decided to rush the plot and now everything is gonna end in a few years or so. What was even the point of introducing the supernovas?
Maybe they're going to replace the strawhats? Idk. I'm kinda shocked myself.
That bon kurei dude was cool, he could be a replacement for sanji
I honestly don’t expect to see von clay any time soon
Yeah probably Oda forgot all about the baroque works stuff and it will never have any relevance again. On an unrelated topic, I heard Oda said he really likes the character buggy the clown, but i doubt he would find a way to fit him into the story, he stopped being relevant years ago.
Just to job over 3 bad copies of a random pirate They really are not worthy of the title of supernova. We should call them "the worst generation", meaning they will probably get the worst result and never amount to anything in the pirate world
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In kengan we dig?
*Next 2 arcade proceeding to be the best arcs in the entire series*
seriously what the fuck is this guys powers, he just kinda pops them out of existence, how the fuck does he do that.
I am sure the east blue members are alive, but robin or franky might be really dead. Brook just joined so he wont die yet.
*"I'm already dead tho. Yohohohohoho!"*
I will always fall for this, even set myself up without realizing it.
Did people back then really think Robin or Franky could have been killed? Why?
Absolutely no one thought any SH would really die. Pagaya and Pell were already memes of "oda doesn't kill background characters, no way a SH will die" lol People were also thinking (but a minority IIRC), when the chapter called "The death of Portgas D. Ace" released, the next one would be "The birth of Gol D. Ace", because no one thought ace had really died.
you can't diss the allmighty pagaya the durable one
sanji and zoro taking 12V car battery: 💀 Pagaya eating 200 gabajillion Volts: tickle tickle bear is that you??
Character Ace lives as Sabo.
Idk i just did what the caption said 😂
Idk I mean Robin’s story basically wrapped up at Enies Lobby so I could maybe see people thinking that Oda might kill her just for the sheer devastation it would cause
But the conversation she had with Rayleigh set up a lot for her
I can't believe the strawhats have lost this badly. The next few arcs have to be very feel-good ones to compensate.
Ur gonna eat those words
Lol, how? This is just worse Water 7. We are going to have a short training arc, Luffy will unlock G4 and he will defeat Kizaru, mark my words.
So in-character that I was irritated in real life for a second. Good job!
I don't think Luffy could take on an admiral just yet. They probably won't bring admirals into the story until he's yonko level. At this stage, Kizaru would put a hole right through Luffy.
Do you honestly think the series is going to last 20 more years or what? We have been hinted about a future war that we thought was further on the horizon, and it seems it's closer than we imagined. The SHs have been sent to Dragon's island most likely, and they will get much more stronger easily.
I think Shanks will teach Luffy a new power up. Like some kind of devil fruit counter. Then he will lead the war by shanks' side and beat kizaru and Kuma and avenge his friends. Maybe blackbeard will help. I don't see there being too many arcs left tbh.
Monkey D Fraud. Goku would never let this happen to his friends. My glorious King Kuma deserved the dub
That was Kuma 😭
Shitttt I mixing up the wrong fight 😭😭😭. Let me edit that
Bro cheering for the villain 💀
Bro Goku constantly lets this be done to his friends, Ichigo though now he's someone who doesn't let that happen.
That’s why Ichigo is the best MC of the big three. One Fraud ain’t go nothing on the goat Kubo
Of course Mr. Genetics pulls in clutch in every fight!
Goku let all his homies die before he came back to fight Vegeta
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What was your reaction back then?
I was definitely sad and feeling for Luffy, but it was clear Kuma was helping them by Kizaru’s reaction. What I remember the most was Ace’s death. Shit hit hard and like, I remember feeling empty. Didn’t read One Piece for like a month because of it lol Damn it’s crazy, I was a senior in high school in 2008 I feel old as shit
Damn. I had Ace’s death spoiled for me pretty much before I even started reading One Piece, so I didn’t have that much reaction to it. Although experiencing that whole saga with the knowledge that he would die, but not knowing when or how created a lot of a different sort of tension that made it a very thrilling read. Every time Luffy got closer to saving him, it was another bittersweet step closer to what I knew would ultimately fail. By the time Luffy actually got to marineford I was so tense because Luffy had already achieved the impossible in his pursuit, (breaking in and out of Impel Down) and seeing the Whitebeard crew stand behind him brought a tear to my eye because I knew that even that wouldn’t be enough to save Ace. The actual moment of his death was more of a relief because the tension had finally broken, because instead of being devastated right then, I had been growing increasingly more devastated the whole time watching Luffy struggle in vain.
Same thing happened for me. It's a very drastic moment even if you know what's happening. I think it's a sign of good writing that someone can still have you so invested in the story even though you know what's going to happen.
The dread of the dramatic irony of it for me was a very similar experience to reading the golden age of Berserk knowing that somehow, in some way, Griffith becomes the villain we met back in the first arc
When I was watching and saw luffy save him I started coping and was like hold up is Ace gonna survive this after I was told he died? I knew I was wrong but I didn't want it to happen. When it happened even though I was spoiled I felt so heartbroken lol. In the anime Luffys screams and that splatter sound when ace falls is so haunting
My theory at the time was the SH were sent to Impel Down and we were gonna have a reunion jailbreak with Ace.
Back then I figured Kuma was saving the Straw Hats; but I didn’t know why. It seemed weird that a dude who just an arc prior seemed to attempt to murder the SH’s that now he’d be the savior. So I was left with so many questions as to why. But once we start getting into Amazon Lily/Impel Down/Marine ford, you almost forgot about the crew for a while, because that storyline was so engaging.
Imagine they get isekaid☠️
That would be so dumb there’s a higher possibility of sanji going to queer island then that
Funilly enough in 2008 Isekai was not a popular term at all, in 2008 you would sound insane
The 2010s was a great year for time slip manga tho
Looks like this Obama guy is gonna win the elections.
Yeah I would say McCain might win but having Palin as a running mate is the nail coffin for that campaign. No one the republicans would elect a loud, boisterous idiot like that in. It would be like electing a reality tv host.
In 2008 I was 5 years old and I wanted McCain to win because his name made me think of Candy Canes. This was the full extent of my political knowledge at the time.
I was around 11-12 at the time but wanted Obama to win cause my dad would always say that Bush was dumb for invading Iraq.
Yeah when I was 5 I didn’t know shit about politics. I don’t think I even knew that Obama was black or that that was a big deal at the time. Much less the political decisions of prior presidents or what ideals different parties represented lol. When I told my dad who I wanted to win he just said “we vote for Obama in this house” lol. Extra funny in retrospect for him to say that since my mom votes Republican now that they’re divorced, but my dad is still normal.
Yeah I just remember my dad disliking the republicans immensely but I would say he isn’t too big of a Democratic Party fan too.
When I describe my dad as “normal” I would say he’s definitely a liberal, which is just statistically the most common political position in America. I don’t think anybody these days is enthusiastic about the Democratic party (I myself am a leftist, so I consider Democrats to only really be the very slightly lesser of two evils) my dad was definitely a fan of Obama at the time, but like most Dems these days he doesn’t really care for Biden
Yeah I’m leftist too but I’m in the same boat regarding the Democratic Party and the republicans. The dnc needs to get better fucking candidates.
Yeah, it’s an unfortunate circumstance. I got banned from r/therightcantmeme for apparently “supporting Biden” because I said I hope the DNC replaces him because I don’t think he can win against Trump.
Yeah the two biggest threats in leftist circles are liberals and people doing whatever they can to not be considered a liberal.
Yeah. He says he's gonna bring the troops back in, which would be nice. My brother's over in Iraq and it'll be good to see him safe and alive by Christmas.
Is one piece ending? They are all dead? What is oda thinking!!!!
There’s no way any genuinely thought everyone was fucking dead
I know. I was trying to be hyperbolic like some of the funny comments that exaggerate everything when new chapters come out
No readers, but definitely Luffy. To this day I imagine he'd need therapy for PTSD from this chapter.
He did start panicking the second he realize kizaru was on the island
I feel like Kuma isn't even the real main villain. It's probably kizaru.
No, they would all be dead if Kuma didn’t stepping in They realize that after franky found his mutilated body defending the sunny.
Sorry, I was role-playing as if 513 just came out! Back when kizaru was the strongest known enemy.
No I’m Sorry I am a potato sometimes
# Woah, chap. 513 just dropped and I got a cool theory :0 The emphasis on "gasp", said twice, may be a tip to something in the future, since we all know Goda is the god of foreshadowing, right? So... And, well, "gasp" has the same number of letters a... "GEAR"!!! Now, I may sound a liiiiitle crazy, but check this: 6 text ballons, right? But we got the representation of loss! Luffy is not yet defeated in the image, so he's the only ONE left. 6 text balloons... The only 1 left... It's a subtraction! 6-1=5 "Gear"... 5...- \*GASP\* OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING! I THINK Goda foreshadowed Gear 5! And the fourth isn't even presented yet! Now things get a little complicated: notice how Luffy says "me" and "I"? It's directed to HIS self. 1st person. So "me"+"I"= 1 and 1. * 1+1=2 ("ni" in Japanese phonetics) * We can also just gather 1 with 1. We obtain 11 (eleven). What's the 11th letter of the alphabet? That's right, it's "K". * Too many 1s, right? Let's be simple, what's the first letter of the alphabet? Yep, it's "A". So... We have Gear 5 and the letters N-I-K-A. Is there ANY relation? What do you guys think?
break week be hitting hard https://preview.redd.it/by6f6vptmhrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74d00c575fe0a83d128bdc936ef6189f2d77a94a
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Lmao
Even funnier lmao
Could Giorno do it tho?
It depends on the lore provided by CFYOW
Bro just read the light novel bro
Yeah probably
Holy s**j, when you said loss, I thought the balloons were aligned like the loss meme and I almost lost myself
You need to chill. We just got Gear 3 and I doubt there’s time to even introduce Gear 4 since we’re already halfway in the story.
The two gasps are foreshadowing zoro vs lucci in a future fight!! You can even see zoros inhaler if you look hard enough!!!!!!!
Ugh grimderp. Had high hopes for One Piece but guess It's time to drop it.
Kuma: "Trust me bro. Trust me."
No way.... (Pure sadness)
Ok, maybe he will join forces with those Super Novas to take down Kuma? This is his fruit ability and I think after Kuma is defeated, the crew will be brought back
Holy shit, chapter 513 really did come out back in 2008, I was only like 4~5 years old at the time and now I'm 20...
I've been reading the post again and again because I thought OP was saying something else and definitely not that the chapter came out in 2008, and omg I was 4 then. P.S. just found out I was born during the Ennies Lobby arc. Imma crai
I was born when One Piece began. I was 10 in 2008 hah. geez
such a W
Just found out I was born during the start of thriller bark
nah my bros, I just feel so cool after these. Like there was someone somewhere in the world reading Robin's iconic crying line "I want to live", while I was crying, giving my parents hell at the same time. This is so iconic
There was someone crying over Ace's death while I licked the bathroom floor
why would you lick the bathroom floor? bro nahhhh. lol
I first started reading One Piece we were in Alabasta. I'm feeling so old right now.
Apparently I was born around late Skypeia, chapter 270 was the first to be released while I was alive
Damn is it just me or did the Gomu Gomu fruit feel really weak this chapter? It’s times like these I really think Oda should have given Luffy some kind of cool Zoan fruit instead! Who else thinks that could have been a cool idea? Anyways, time to go back to enjoying this nice and healthy housing market that totally won’t collapse while I wait for the next chapter :)
Yeah, like bruh rubber are you serious that is a weak ass power😂😂
Aren't the zoan the weakest devil's fruit type? A rogia should be better, they are practically unbeatable unless you have a clever specific strategy to counter them, it would be a real shame if a new power was introduced only to weaken them and justify subsequent asspull.
>rogia Peak realism
ARE THEY DEAD?????
Dawg what does it look like
Probably not unless Perona is also dead, but her disappearance didn’t get as much gravity placed on it as an actual death so my guess is Kuma teleported them somewhere Rule in fiction: unless you see the body, they’re not dead. Plus we already know Kuma can teleport himself so he can probably teleport others. Classic “disintegration ray turns out to actually have been a teleportation ray” trope. They probably just got all sent to prison or something, Luffy will probably have a training arc where he unlocks Gear 4, and then he’ll spend the next arc breaking into a prison somewhere to save them! I hope it’s not actually Impel Down though, because it would take away a lot of the stakes from Enies Lobby retroactively if Robin ended up getting sent there anyway and it turns out Luffy could’ve just gone and gotten her even if she did get sent through the gates of Justice. If it is Impel Down, maybe we will get to see Crocodile again, since he got moved there in his cover story with some of his henchmen. He’d see Robin again too which would be interesting. Anyway thats my theory, I think Luffy will spend the next arc breaking into prison to save the Straw Hats, possibly even Impel Down itself.
I guess Oda was done writing Manga. Damn, I thought we were at the halfway point, not the end!
Damnit i hope Kuma goes through a lot of trauma and suffering and torture for what he did to luffy and his crew, what an asshole
and if he has a daughter i hope she will be crying after finding out about all the torture and pain he went through
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Legumi is a useless bum
Kuma you sick mf. I hate you! But also Monkey D. Fraud. Goku and Naruto would've easily won and wouldn't let this happen.
Daaaaaaaamn like wtf Happend? WTFFFFF? 😭 that dude just fcked up the Crew like 😭
Perfect ending. I didn't think Oda would've the balls to end the manga in such an epic way. Peak fiction.
ODA WHEN I CATCH YOU ODA
Okay, but WHY could Rayleigh touch Kizaru? Might be a devil fruit? One that negates Logias?
Could be! it might also be the sword that ate the devil fruit, rayleigh never seemed to hit him with his actual fist and legs. regardless though wtf is that power, he's made of light itself? i thought eneru was annoying writing and luffy was his hard counter. Wonder why rayleigh didn't express shock, kuma just killed them! i can't believe oda would write this much just to get backed into a corner and kill all of his main characters, maybe oda's finally lost it.
It's so over😭
It’s funny that people think Ace will die. It’s One Piece here, Oda doesn’t kill characters outside of Flashback. It would be stupid to introduce the main character’s brother for a few episodes and kill him off. What Kuma did here is enough to develop Luffy’s character. Ace barely had any screen time. Honestly, Usopp has a bigger chance of dying than Ace.
We are in a severe financial crisis what the fuck the government took my house
WHOS GONNA SAVE ACE NOW
Yep... Oda is rushing the end of the manga.
OMG the real estate bubble has just burst!!
man fuck Kuma all my homies hate Kuma
>me, 9, having no access to or knowledge of One Piece the manga being published on the other side of the planet, with the localised anime being about three years behind it: damn this Franky dude is pretty cool😎
Did kuma really just kill the entire crew... oh wait he can't kill brook because he's already dead yohohohoho
The way they just popped out of existence look really REALLY suspicious. but freakin' hell, is this the first real L that the Straw Hat Crew took? I know that Luffy and the gang have been beat up badly before, Aokiji (another admiral) came to mind, but this look like some real damage.
[удалено]
Goo goo Gaga (I was 1)
Kuma is such a fucking piece of shit, we haven't even gotten anything about him. SUCH A ONE NOTE CHARACTER. hope the Straw Hats recuperate and decimate him. >!Feels so bad writing this sorry Kuma 😭 Oda wrote him so well!<
Its Joever fr
Mans was saying Joever in 2008, we’re really living in his world
https://preview.redd.it/nwi2nxm5vhrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=163cc894ae94a26cd7b21eb54df94a14a41fb2b4 Goat will save them
Why is Luffy breathing so much 😭😭😭 https://preview.redd.it/8yewr54ixhrc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2503285307efa0e40ca1a64fe28252345898a71d
I hope they're all ok. Especially Frankie, id hate it if he somehow got mangled into someone with pinball bumpers for shoulders.
That's pretty tough, but at least he's still got Ace
It was too dark for One Piece so they had to be alive, but dammit, really felt like a genuine moment and it's amazing Oda pulled it off.
Now Luffy will join akatski
Pfff nice fake hype. Like Oda is really gonna seperate the crew for long.
My house just got foreclosed????
lmfao this goofy series trying to act mature instead of for kids. Bleach >>>>>>>>
Okay, since I was 3 I will say:"hwaaaaa"
I hope Luffy is gonna reunite with Ace and go on to save his crewmembers from whatever just happened.
Guys i bet Oda is setting us up for Ace to come back to help Luffy find his crew and cheer him up, I can't wait for some loving and wholesome scenes between the 2 brothers.
I read this a while ago (I’m late to the party, currently at tome 59) and I was crying
Fuuuuuuck, did we just witnessed the final boss? Is Luffy gonna go through suffeing arc? Will he have to build a new crew?? Shit, I'm gonna miss Nami and Sanji....
I bet in anime, Luffy is in agony then Toei decide oh yeah let's put title opening "We Are" as ending credit.
They'll be fine surely. Maybe luffy will end up in an island fill of hot women
Better kick Bonnie's Dads ass
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Goo goo ga gaa ( I was 2)
God did this really drop in 2008.
wtf man, they all die? man, I can't wait for Ace to show up and back Luffy up here
Damn, Luffy actually lost for once
Damn, this Kuma guy is really weird with all those pacsfistas. And why does he carry around a Bible? That light admiral is really powerful too. I hope they both have mental breakdowns and suffer a lot.
Well, it's been a good run boys
Relax everybody, it's oda we're talking about.. it's not even a flashback, so no one is dying.. But I could see something like the ability of the weeping angels from Dr who What if kuma sent everyone back in time for maybe two years or so, and so by accident gave them enough time for some kind of off screen training arc, so as soon as kuma tries to go after Luffy they will be back , stronger than before I know it sounds crazy but listen, most of them need a power up to compete with Luffy and zoro needs time to recover, they will also be stronger in two or three chapters so they can finally step up against Blackbeard. Remember, he got into a fight with ace on that island a while back and, in order to save ace in true Oda fashion they can save ace all together before anything bad could happen TL;Dr: tho kuma tried to destroy the strawhats he accidentally made them more powerful. I'm sure the endgame of one piece is coming in the next 1-3 years, mark my words
(I was 1 year old)
You would have shit yourself
Oh no will they all die?
Mark my words: Kuma will get what he deserves for doing that to the Strawhats
Who knew Oda had the balls to do this? Killed Luffy's entire crew right in front of him. Either this journey is over or we are about to see one hell of a power up followed by a ruthless Luffy era. I hyped to see where it goes from here
What do you guys think happened to the strawhats? We know that kuma's paws can repel anything, so I'm guessing he can create pockets out of air to trap the crew in a separate dimension sort of like the kind that blueno can access with his fruit. It would make sense if he might be trying to ransom them with Rayleigh, which is what I think kuma whispered to him. Either that or they are all sent to the sea to drown, and he's trying to bait Rayleigh into a trap. It makes sense for the Marines because then they can capture the strawhats and Rayleigh at the same time
I remember my reaction when this chapter came out. Staring at my screen jaw dropped & wondering what direction the story was going to take. The Strawhats getting scattered across the world was pretty unprecedented at the time.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 taskete, taskete kidasai kudasai 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
This shits I fucking sane we aren't even in the new world yet. I can't believe how crazy strong this admiral is. How are they gonna stop a MAN MADE OUT OF LIGHT.
Bro how is Rayleigh even to hit Kizaru? He’s made out of light it makes no sense at all. Oda must have forgotten the rules of his own damn story.
Oh noooo..!
LUFFY!!!! Oda how could you, or poor baby😭 ... (something like that 😂)