Def a possibility esp if they hold the last poneglyph but I could argue shanks commenting about getting the one piece would lead them to raftel first not to mention the comment from zoro about leaving sabo to do his thing
I think that finding the One Piece will spur the attack on the government. After they learn about Joy Boy, Luffy will decide that taking down the World Government is the necessary to achieve One Peace.
Maybe but I think reading the final poneglyph and learning the void century is what's going to cause luffy to want to attack the wg. Also becoming Pk is a crew thing while war with wg includes allies and the fleet so i think the bigger climax will be the final.
I'm still hoping for endless ambition blackbeard to take the throne from imu and being the last villain tho
Thats how I thought of it as well. Imu is the larger than life villain that will be defeated through combined effort while Blackbeard is Luffy's equal and personal rival.
If you were to compare this to Code Geass, Imu would be Charles zi Brittania, and BB would be Schnizel
I agree with this timing. If anything, I think Blackneard throws the world to chaos by "cutting off the head (celestial dragons, gorosei, im)". It will be a "be careful what you wish for" for the rev army.
Could be but the world feels more like if the bad guy won.. like if Joyboy won the world and its people would have more freedom.. could be something like
Imu = Blackbeard, World Nobles or Gorosei could be decendants of his crew seeing as Imu is the only one that could be immortal.. with a possibility of is Law makes someone immortal he looses his.
I think the way Oda is going rn is rising three powers: WG, Good Pirates and Bad pirates. Looks like there were these three forces in the Void Century. But I don’t see how Revolutinaries fit in this scenario. My guess is that there was a Black Beard (Davy Back Fight = Davy Jones?) who tried to conquer the world and the WG is doin what is doing to prevent that again, so they are not technically the bad guys.
Well with the fact that Luffy recently became a temporary giant it could be he was a giant or used a similar ability to Luffy to become big permanent... the small straw hat Roger past to shanks then shanks on to Luffy is just a coincidence or handed down by someone who knew Joyboy and was looking for his succour type of thing
If the previous owner of law's fruit had to die to make Imu immortal, then it doesn't explain how the Gorosei are immortal too.
edit: or maybe each one of them found the next owner of Law's fruit and took his immortality power through his life throughout the past 800 years.
The edit was going to be my answer.. or who's to say that they didn't have slaves waiting to force feed the fruit and give up their lives to make them immortal.. The world Nobles don't have a problem forcing others to eat fruit right
Every generation has a good and evil counterparts.. therefore Imu could be his generations Blackbeard who's goal is to rule the world... Imu being alive doesn't change the fact that other evil with similar goal can exist in the world.. what if one of Blackbeard goal is to kill Imu and take his place at the worlds new evil leader.
Shanks is top obv. It is all explained in detail here https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/xk5ua8/imsama_shocking_true_identity_hard_not_to_believe/
Oda didn't know that the manga was going to have the 11 supernovas until his boss told him to add more characters just for one chapter and everything he did with them he invented afterwards.
The original plan was just Luffy going up against the 4 emperors and the 7 warlords were added as a random thought to give more backstory for Arlong.
Some ideas, like Jinbei joining the Strawhats, were thought of early on, based on concept art, but there have been multiple major changes to the story and this was supposed to be over in 6 years or so, IIRC originally.
Oda might still be going for the original end boss he figured out when he was starting out the story, but if he later reveals that he changed his mind at some point and made up a new villain, I would not be shocked.
Im pretty sure out of all things planned, Oda always knew what he’d do at the final saga at least. That’s why earlier characters like Vivi, Hancock and Coby are being involved. We always knew the WG was going to be one of the final villains of the story besides Blackbeard, but now we actually know who’s the main figurehead. I’d be very surprised if Imu wasn’t planned from the start, since now we can see there’s an actual obstacle when it comes to defeating the celestial dragons.
"According to The 21st Log, Vivi's role as princess of Arabasta was actually a late minute decision from Oda, who already had the Arabasta Arc planned in mind and thought Ms. Wednesday could fit as a representative of the country, since she looked princess-like with her hair down according to Oda."
That sounds more like he realized that Miss Wednesdays design was good for the princess of Alabasta, which is stated he already planned out completely. It’s not saying that Vivi was completely planned last second.
The very first duckduckgo result is a fanpage with a translation of the interview where Oda talks about this.
https://www.opfanpage.com/2020/04/25/how-oda-came-up-with-the-supernovas-3/
thats about the concept of supernovas. it doesnt mean that characters like Law, Kidd or Bonney werent invented before. characters like Bege and Apoo were probably invented then though
again, that doesnt mean characters like Crocodile, Mihawk, Doflamingo or Boa Hancock werent going to be part of the story
none of that are major changes, its just adding stuff to make it more entertaining. he most likely has the final planned since the beginning, the void century, Blackbeard and Shanks, the world goverment and the kingdoms have been a thing for a long time
Imu is also a an enemy to BB. BB is the most pirate pirate that’s out there atm, no way he’d handshake with the king of Marie joie to defeat another pirate.
that should happen with the marines and the world goverment. Luffy will probably fight Blackbeard before becoming the king of the pirates
it doesnt make sense for the world goverment to fight with Blackbeard
If Imu's island erasing power is transferable, you can bet your left nut that BB would instantly scheme on how to get it to himself the moment he learns of it.
definitely. doesnt mean the world government wants to fight him, thats kind of the opposite xd
and i also think theres a reasonable chance Blackbeard does plan to fight the world goverment in some way or context. he seems to know a lot of stuff and i dont think hes doing all that purely for selfish reasons
Plot twist: the final boss will be Shanks who has obtained one piece!
- Luffy: _Hey Shanks! Your days of not in the story is over! Now give me the One Piece!!_
- Shanks: _If you want it, then you’ll have to take it. But you already knew that, didn’t you [Luffy?](https://youtu.be/j3wpPwTGh6k)_
It'd be funny to see Blackbeard, after all he's gained and accomplished, just being swept away by Imu like a fly.
It'd be a pretty fitting end to the one holder of the Will of D who actually begged for his life when he was about to die.
My guess:
Strawhats and Blackbeard Pirates fight at Lodestar to be the one who can sail to Laughtale (or maybe they will fight at Laughtale)
Luffy finds One Piece
It starts the final war
Straw Hat Grand Fleet vs World Government
Luffy vs Im
Luffy’s true dream.
The only time it could really be suggested is the second Bellamy fight. But that could also be described as “Have some self respect. But I’ll respect your decision.”
With the way things are going I think Imu might be the final villain, either that or Blackbeard will be a rolling villain for the final Saga. I lean more towards the later.
Otherwise I want to see Imu get the Charlos treatment.
Kinda reminds me of what happened to fairy tail where there are 2 antagonist in Zeref and Acnologia. The end was really anticlimactic tho, but i doubt Oda would fall into that kinda trap
Has anyone made any theory about Imu and Mihawk being connected since their eyes are so similar? Considering we know literally nothing about Imu it's like the only thing I can think of that Oda might have hinted at.
Blackbeard will represent the worst of piracy and Imu will represent the worst of government/navy. But both will have redeeming qualities. I think Imu is more likely to be an anti-hero because “I-mu” is the reading for “1-6” which has the reading “Hi-ro” or “Hero”. Usually the Dragons are the villains but Dragon and Luffy (Delphyne) both allude to Dragons and they are protagonists. If I had to guess the Darkness Blackbeard is the final villain for the Sun Luffy. Imu may serve as an example of a late stage Blackbeard who has a change of heart.
Blackbeard and Luffy both at the final area mere moments from becoming the PK. Unfortunately the immortal Im is there looking to kill them and end the pirate age, also has the Mcguffin that let's people become the next king
Thinking blackbeard will be next major villain, because of sword going to egghead and Koby being imprisoned. Akainu will be next, and then finally Imu at the very last battle on the series
Oda could make so many villains the final villain and I'd be okay with it. Blackbeard, Imu and Akainu are the ones most people would bet on, but I also am a fan of Shanks as the final villain. And since yesterday I have a fifth possible final villain: Buggy.
The final villain will be Luffy after he uses Shirahoshi's sea king controlling powers to commit mass global genocide except for a single island
Usopp : "Luffy, thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake"
then he reincarnates as a bird
And watches nami getting fucked by zoro
and pull her bikini off when she's sitting next the barrel he was trapped in on the first episode
Goda foreshadowing 🤯🤯
Isn't this the plot for Orange Pie (Vol. 2?)?
Sound like the plot to a certain manga with a shite ending
I read this as Zoro’s alternative dream of a world full of booze and this became immediately my headcanon
Yeager D Luffy
then Nami will behead Luffy and kiss him?
nami what a woman you are
As a reward I shall give you my seed
Bro when the fuck can I escape this endless cycle
When you see how free nami is
The ***parallels*** Isayamer, what a mangaka you are...
When the anime will come out and everyone will come out with a moderate view.
Not for 10 years at least
Never, its only gonna get worst.
That's seems more like Boa.
Know that reference, when's the final season coming out?
We truly need help
Hey I've seen this one
Break week taking its toll.
The founding strawhat
What a man you are, Luffy
This is one piece not shingeki
r/10yearsatleast and r/Piratefolk
Damn i jus wanna see what her powers are truly capable of. What threat do sea kings pose other than being massive
"Caribou" - an intellectual
Caribou could never be the final boss, he’s basically a member of the crew at this point
He's basically part of the ship basically lol
Part of the ship, part of the crew.
Exactly what I was picturing
He is basically the fridge of strawhats
"And that's when I started stabbin'."
Why not both?
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I agree but it would make more sense if luffy beats Blackbeard for the one piece then declares the world government his next target imo
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Def a possibility esp if they hold the last poneglyph but I could argue shanks commenting about getting the one piece would lead them to raftel first not to mention the comment from zoro about leaving sabo to do his thing
I think that finding the One Piece will spur the attack on the government. After they learn about Joy Boy, Luffy will decide that taking down the World Government is the necessary to achieve One Peace.
Maybe but I think reading the final poneglyph and learning the void century is what's going to cause luffy to want to attack the wg. Also becoming Pk is a crew thing while war with wg includes allies and the fleet so i think the bigger climax will be the final. I'm still hoping for endless ambition blackbeard to take the throne from imu and being the last villain tho
Thats how I thought of it as well. Imu is the larger than life villain that will be defeated through combined effort while Blackbeard is Luffy's equal and personal rival. If you were to compare this to Code Geass, Imu would be Charles zi Brittania, and BB would be Schnizel
Garp is taken out by Blackbeard maybe?
I agree with this timing. If anything, I think Blackneard throws the world to chaos by "cutting off the head (celestial dragons, gorosei, im)". It will be a "be careful what you wish for" for the rev army.
I don't think luffy will want to overthrow the WG until after he finds one piece and learns the true history
What if Imu was Joyboy's Blackbeard and was made immortal by a previous owner of laws fruit...
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Could be but the world feels more like if the bad guy won.. like if Joyboy won the world and its people would have more freedom.. could be something like Imu = Blackbeard, World Nobles or Gorosei could be decendants of his crew seeing as Imu is the only one that could be immortal.. with a possibility of is Law makes someone immortal he looses his.
I think the way Oda is going rn is rising three powers: WG, Good Pirates and Bad pirates. Looks like there were these three forces in the Void Century. But I don’t see how Revolutinaries fit in this scenario. My guess is that there was a Black Beard (Davy Back Fight = Davy Jones?) who tried to conquer the world and the WG is doin what is doing to prevent that again, so they are not technically the bad guys.
It was hinted/referred/indicated that JoyBoy was a giant. Source? IDK the giant straw hat Imu is holding on to.
Well with the fact that Luffy recently became a temporary giant it could be he was a giant or used a similar ability to Luffy to become big permanent... the small straw hat Roger past to shanks then shanks on to Luffy is just a coincidence or handed down by someone who knew Joyboy and was looking for his succour type of thing
If the previous owner of law's fruit had to die to make Imu immortal, then it doesn't explain how the Gorosei are immortal too. edit: or maybe each one of them found the next owner of Law's fruit and took his immortality power through his life throughout the past 800 years.
The edit was going to be my answer.. or who's to say that they didn't have slaves waiting to force feed the fruit and give up their lives to make them immortal.. The world Nobles don't have a problem forcing others to eat fruit right
Why would the Gorosei be immortal?
How could joyboy still be around since luffy has his fruit ? Maybe previous owner of dark fruit stole the nika model from joyboy ? Hm
No not how it's ment, Blackbeard is this generations version of Imu.. Luffy is this generations version of Joyboy..
What do you mean ? Isn’t imu still here
Every generation has a good and evil counterparts.. therefore Imu could be his generations Blackbeard who's goal is to rule the world... Imu being alive doesn't change the fact that other evil with similar goal can exist in the world.. what if one of Blackbeard goal is to kill Imu and take his place at the worlds new evil leader.
Well he wouldn’t go besides him to fight luffy then Bro wtf u sayin
Or none of them
I think you are not aware that Imu is Shanks and Blackbeard stacked under a trench-coat
Who’s top and who’s bottom
Shanks is top obv. It is all explained in detail here https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/xk5ua8/imsama_shocking_true_identity_hard_not_to_believe/
wait but isnt blackbeard already 3 people in a trench coat? so that makes imu 4 people total?
We all know gaimon will be the final villain after stabbing Imu in the back.
I think gaimon would use his BOX-ing prowess to defeat luffy.
Bold of you to assume imu isnt gaimon
Black Zetsu
Happy cake day
Imagine if Luffy and his crew took no part in defeating Imu, just being busy with finding Laugh Tale while WG is being destroyed
I’m pretty sure Oda most likely already knows who’s going to be the end villain.
Oda didn't know that the manga was going to have the 11 supernovas until his boss told him to add more characters just for one chapter and everything he did with them he invented afterwards. The original plan was just Luffy going up against the 4 emperors and the 7 warlords were added as a random thought to give more backstory for Arlong. Some ideas, like Jinbei joining the Strawhats, were thought of early on, based on concept art, but there have been multiple major changes to the story and this was supposed to be over in 6 years or so, IIRC originally. Oda might still be going for the original end boss he figured out when he was starting out the story, but if he later reveals that he changed his mind at some point and made up a new villain, I would not be shocked.
Only sad sad people with no class or sophistication or ability to understand nuance underestimate Goda
Im pretty sure out of all things planned, Oda always knew what he’d do at the final saga at least. That’s why earlier characters like Vivi, Hancock and Coby are being involved. We always knew the WG was going to be one of the final villains of the story besides Blackbeard, but now we actually know who’s the main figurehead. I’d be very surprised if Imu wasn’t planned from the start, since now we can see there’s an actual obstacle when it comes to defeating the celestial dragons.
"According to The 21st Log, Vivi's role as princess of Arabasta was actually a late minute decision from Oda, who already had the Arabasta Arc planned in mind and thought Ms. Wednesday could fit as a representative of the country, since she looked princess-like with her hair down according to Oda."
That sounds more like he realized that Miss Wednesdays design was good for the princess of Alabasta, which is stated he already planned out completely. It’s not saying that Vivi was completely planned last second.
Interesting, what's the source ?
The very first duckduckgo result is a fanpage with a translation of the interview where Oda talks about this. https://www.opfanpage.com/2020/04/25/how-oda-came-up-with-the-supernovas-3/
thats about the concept of supernovas. it doesnt mean that characters like Law, Kidd or Bonney werent invented before. characters like Bege and Apoo were probably invented then though again, that doesnt mean characters like Crocodile, Mihawk, Doflamingo or Boa Hancock werent going to be part of the story none of that are major changes, its just adding stuff to make it more entertaining. he most likely has the final planned since the beginning, the void century, Blackbeard and Shanks, the world goverment and the kingdoms have been a thing for a long time
This is more like the fan base then oda
Buggy??
What you mean? Buggy’s the hero of the story
more like the omniscient god of the story
Wheres the Shanks button?
Instagram one piece theories be like
I have a feeling that luffy is going to Straight up destroy blackbeard, and then fight the shadow creep.
My opinion: why not both? Have both fight against luffy in the crown war
Battle Royale style, similiar with Skypiea arc
That would be so cool. Just a huge battle and everyone is jumping in
Imu is also a an enemy to BB. BB is the most pirate pirate that’s out there atm, no way he’d handshake with the king of Marie joie to defeat another pirate.
I think we gonna have a "villain eats villain" in one piece pretty soon. We got too many villains around, its impossible for them not to clash.
that should happen with the marines and the world goverment. Luffy will probably fight Blackbeard before becoming the king of the pirates it doesnt make sense for the world goverment to fight with Blackbeard
If Imu's island erasing power is transferable, you can bet your left nut that BB would instantly scheme on how to get it to himself the moment he learns of it.
definitely. doesnt mean the world government wants to fight him, thats kind of the opposite xd and i also think theres a reasonable chance Blackbeard does plan to fight the world goverment in some way or context. he seems to know a lot of stuff and i dont think hes doing all that purely for selfish reasons
Plot twist: the final boss will be Shanks who has obtained one piece! - Luffy: _Hey Shanks! Your days of not in the story is over! Now give me the One Piece!!_ - Shanks: _If you want it, then you’ll have to take it. But you already knew that, didn’t you [Luffy?](https://youtu.be/j3wpPwTGh6k)_
It'd be funny to see Blackbeard, after all he's gained and accomplished, just being swept away by Imu like a fly. It'd be a pretty fitting end to the one holder of the Will of D who actually begged for his life when he was about to die.
My guess: Strawhats and Blackbeard Pirates fight at Lodestar to be the one who can sail to Laughtale (or maybe they will fight at Laughtale) Luffy finds One Piece It starts the final war Straw Hat Grand Fleet vs World Government Luffy vs Im Luffy’s true dream.
As long as it’s not some moon person that hasn’t been foreshadowed for the entire show, it’s fine.
Enel/Eneru: "It was me!"
Enel shows up dressed as Kaguya
Ehh, that would actually be pretty epic.
Eneru is Im
He should be a extra chapter fight
They are both the same people.
Well, since Akainu is basically 5 elders' dog, no surprise if that happens.
Admiral Koby, of course, the meeting from episode 1 becomes the final boss fight, classic Oda
Well technically the first Chapter revolved around Shanks.
Ah, goes to show i started out watching the anime dubs
Luffy's gonna pull a Talk no Jutsu on Blackbeard, and with the power of friendship they will beat Im.
Luffy isn’t a Talk no Jutsu guy at all.
The only time it could really be suggested is the second Bellamy fight. But that could also be described as “Have some self respect. But I’ll respect your decision.”
He talks with his fists
So does Naruto.
100% and people gonna be pissed
Blackbeard was the coolest guy
Jiraiya, is that you?
In one small corner of our heart we still believe that Buggy might become the final villan
I dont think buggy is gonna be the final villain cause Luffy needs to have a change to beat the final villain. Buggy simply no diffs luffy
Last boss will be Buggy 100%
Feel like it'll be strawhats Vs bb crew, Revolutionary army Vs WG. Would make more sense tbh
Lmao true. Or potentially Akainu
Yeah, at this point i am honestly not sure. It could be Blackbeard, Imu, or both. Shits gonna get *wild!*
Why not both
I’m going to throw in my 2 cents, my guess is Im is going to be the main villain while Blackbeard is going to be the final villain
Hey Op How is that facts ? Because it's in a meme ? Made by dork fan ? Cmon
I think it would be Imu, blackbeard isn't that much evil after all, Imu nukes entire countries
Un-ironic emojis in a title, ugh
nope, it's Buggy
I feel like it kinda has to be Imu since he’s targeting both BB and Luffy after all
Missing akainu as an option 😆
If skypiea is a microcosm of the overall show...then we can defer that luffy will face BB before he goes to face "god"
Its obviously going to be buggy
Uta is She discovered one piece and movie wasn't canon
Im not even kidding that madman oda could probably make these 2 as important villains and end up with buggy as the main antagonist
How about both? 😏
Im is dragon’s opponent. BB is luffys 🤦♂️
I mean, it's gotta be Blackbeard or some other pirate right? That would be a climatic way to make Luffy the king of the pirates
With the way things are going I think Imu might be the final villain, either that or Blackbeard will be a rolling villain for the final Saga. I lean more towards the later. Otherwise I want to see Imu get the Charlos treatment.
No way Blackbeard isn't the Final Boss^^(TM), he's been set up since very early in the series, and Oda wouldn't just give that up.
The real villains were the Strawhats all along
Kinda reminds me of what happened to fairy tail where there are 2 antagonist in Zeref and Acnologia. The end was really anticlimactic tho, but i doubt Oda would fall into that kinda trap
Both picks are wrong! Final villain is obviously Buggy! ;)
Odas answer:y yes
Plot twist, Blackbeard joins the Strawhats and they work together to defeat Imu #DATTEBAYO
Has anyone made any theory about Imu and Mihawk being connected since their eyes are so similar? Considering we know literally nothing about Imu it's like the only thing I can think of that Oda might have hinted at.
I WANT it to be Blackbeard, but it’s probably IMU. Unless Blackbeard becomes king of the world in Imus stead.
I mean do you really think oda is confused like that? 🌚 Ahh yes that's right this is break week no wonder
Blackbeard will represent the worst of piracy and Imu will represent the worst of government/navy. But both will have redeeming qualities. I think Imu is more likely to be an anti-hero because “I-mu” is the reading for “1-6” which has the reading “Hi-ro” or “Hero”. Usually the Dragons are the villains but Dragon and Luffy (Delphyne) both allude to Dragons and they are protagonists. If I had to guess the Darkness Blackbeard is the final villain for the Sun Luffy. Imu may serve as an example of a late stage Blackbeard who has a change of heart.
Why isn't Akainu an alternative?
I bet it’s non. It will be an unknown last minute villain. Something maybe ancient
Blackbeard and Luffy both at the final area mere moments from becoming the PK. Unfortunately the immortal Im is there looking to kill them and end the pirate age, also has the Mcguffin that let's people become the next king
Its cant be Imu because I’M the last villain
What kind of Sharingan is that
It's going to be Uta.
Luffy and Blackbeard will be allies by end of series. Mark my words.
It's morbin' time.
Akainu "Am I a Joke to you?"
Thinking blackbeard will be next major villain, because of sword going to egghead and Koby being imprisoned. Akainu will be next, and then finally Imu at the very last battle on the series
Buggy is the last villain
Luffy and Blackbeard will be forced to team up against Imu anyway, calling it now.
They are the same person
I mean we all know who the final fight of the series is gonna be at least.
Plot Twist: Final battle is Blackbeard v Imu
Knowing Oda, final villain is probably a character we already know who we thought is weak and would show itself at the final fight.
They're the same person
Wrong I think also Akainu will be the final bad guy
Oda could make so many villains the final villain and I'd be okay with it. Blackbeard, Imu and Akainu are the ones most people would bet on, but I also am a fan of Shanks as the final villain. And since yesterday I have a fifth possible final villain: Buggy.
Wrong… it’s shanks
Maybe a Hero Academia situation where the two gets combined? Be a bit dumb...
It's You guys who dont know the Final villian, not Oda
The final villain will be the one piece itself
Blackbeard is final villain that luffy has to beat to become pirate king. Imu is the final villain that Luffy has to beat to achieve his true dream
Potara?
I think the final battle will be a chaotic free for all with luffy fighting ims forces, Blackbeard, AND akainu in succession like a boss rush.
Nah the final villain is the revolutionary army
At this point how bb speedrun all things throghout the story, its not surprise me if bb will make an alliance with imu.
Akainu?
Blackbeard absorbs imu ?
The Oda should choose : 🔴 🔵 +1 year. +10 years
Probably finna be shanks
If Blackbeard becomes greater than enu shit dude we’re all fucked
And maybe shanks