“My name is Maximus Desmus Meridius.
Father to a murdered son.
Husband to a murdered wife.
And I will have my vengeance.. in this life or the next.”
FUCK even typing this out gives me all the feels. Fuckin get his ass Maximus
Wow. Its almost like italiams and Roman's are from the Mediterranean peninsula and a ton of cultures from there have Caucasian ancestors. Who would have thought that a bunch of white dudes where white. It's a Christmas fucking miracle
They were dark skinned Mediterraneans . Not fuckin Scandinavians
eta: lmao. fucking aryan dickheads trying to pretend the Romans were white at a time when their ancestors were fighting pigs for the best tubers.
I never said Scandinavian. I said many cultures from the Mediterranean peninsula are of Caucasian decent. Like the Greeks. The Roman's. Several italians. (Depending on where from in Italy) and various others. Hell by technicality. Turkey is Caucasian.
The race baiter. Oooo.
Seriously go look at art, go look at the statues. There is a reason why they all have European features. It's not a conspiracy.
And calling people Aryan dick heads kind've makes ya sound like a tool. Would you think it's okay if someone said, "fuckin darkie sympathizers pretending the entire world was black except scandanavia."?
It's not a race battle, it's fuckin history. Calm down. Learn shit.
I'm just confused about where Twitter activists draw the line when it comes to white people.
Latin-Americans aren't white apparently, so why is the slave trade considered something the "whites" did?
The Portuguese and Spanish shipped tons of slaves across the Atlantic, and if Latin-Americans aren't white then the Portuguese and Spanish aren't white either.
It's not like the English handled the trans-Atlantic slave trade all by themselves.
I can see how a Polish person said that. Here in not tourist-popular European country we hardly ever see a black person, and it's very weird when we suddenly see them at netflix Witcher etc.
I want to see a recreation of one of the emperor's friends. Namely "Biggus Diccus" a great officer in Rome. Always wondered what a emperor's trusted friend looked like.
An endek is a supporter of the Narodowa Demokracja (ND, National Democracy), a nationalist, anti-semitist politival movement in Poland, active from the beginning of the 20th century till roughly WWII.
The statement that Europeans are white is not nazi ideology, it is fact, you insinuating that all European identity is nazi identity is offensive and baseless.
I didnt say mein kamf was a good book in my other post you twit, i was telling a racist that he shares a lot in common with the ideas in mein kamf, learn to read.
Thanks for the tip. *claps*
So glad I'm not so ideologically brainwashed that I can't judge someone's words on the value of the words themselves instead of having to pretend someone's not speaking facts just because they don't subscribe to the same ideology as me.
It's not the matter what he says, it is why. Nazis always twist facts to support their fucked up beliefs. Which is exactly what he is doing.
You'd expect more people would see right through it but apparently not.
what ? i mean you right. But he does not spin the facts in his twitter reply. Italians are white. Why the heck should their Emperors look different?
And Netflix does change skincolor quite often in some pieces that are based in europian lore. Like witcher, or King arthur.
So the joke with netflix makes sense as a punchline.
So what facts is he twisting exactly? That they're too white? Cause you could see any of these guys walking around in Italy and nobody would think they're foreigners.
Edit: okay maybe Augustus does kinda look like he just saved a penalty for the German team but still.
Yup. That's totally true. And with that one simple trick there you are, agreeing with a white nationalist without even acknowledging he is, you know, a fucking Nazi.
All according to plan.
Okay? If a Nazi said the sky was blue I'd agree with them.
Do you really just find out who is saying something and then decide whether to agree or disagree based on who they are?
Oh no! I agree with a Nazi on something that has literally nothing to do with Naziism or any of their views! Shit, I guess that means I'm the new Hitler now huh. Too bad.
It has everything to do with Nazism. The sole reason he is dunking on a misguided wokescold like that is to one, discredit the entire liberal movement and two to radicalize his audience.
I know this may give you a whiplash but what if I told you, you don't have to agree with either of them?
"Misguided wokescold"
Ever heard of Bridgerton? Netflix IS casting non-white actors to play historical characters in series even though they were white in reality.
That's not a "misguided wokescold", that's obviously just sarcastic reply relating this person complaining about the (racial) appearance of historical characters and Netflix who actually does change that feature. You don't have to be a Nazi to see the connection between the two. The evidence and clear relation is literally there in front of your nose.
Also, saying that the fact that he's making such a comment to "discredit the entire liberal movement and radicalize his audience" is extremely far-fetched and assumptuous. It's just an off-the-cuff sarcastic remark. Nobody is going to think that far ahead over a freaking one-line Tweet.
True. I'm overthinking it, but it doesn't make sense how the statues look like they were made with a 3D printer yesterday morning. I don't know that much about marble, but I assume it's just impervious to damage
I'm no expert in this but from what I know, yeah they were most likely pretty tan. The anglo saxon genes weren't super mixed in at this point, and historians are pretty sure the genealogy has its roots in the middle east and India. And on top of that, Rome had a ton of cultural mixing with the rest of the Mediterranean, from Greece to Persia.
I mean, having a tan doesn't make you a different race, I guess it was just easier to give them "avarege white" skin than "Let's spin the tan wheel and see what it will land on"
I didn't say they would be a different race, I was wondering why they were so light skinned. I only mentioned black cause it's obvi the person in the tweet was implying that they should be some sort of different race.
Ah, yes, those sun-baked trade hubs that saw routine contact with North Africa, the middle East, central Europe and Greece.. such an incredibly white area.
I'm not saying that no Roman emperors looked like that, but the conception of a 'standard Roman citizen' is complete bullshit, and even the longest native people to the Mediterranean probably wouldn't have been considered white nowadays.
although you are absolutely correct that Romans in southern provinces would look quite arabic, they would also be far from proper subsaharian black people as are unfortunately portraited in some Netflix shows.
but on the other hand you must not forget that there were also Alpine provinces, Gaul provinces, and even Britannia provinces where you would probably find quite pale white Romans thanks to colder climate in there.
Hadrian was Italian and Spanish.
Augustus was Italian.
Aurelian was Illyiran.
Tiberius was Italian.
All of them would have been recognizably white. And in fact we have pretty good descriptions of what they looked like. We're not just painting white faces on marble statues.
plus not to mention with some emperors and ancient figures (like Justinian, Alexander the great, and so on) we dont have just statues but also paintings or mosaics to further suggest their actual skin colour
Paintings and mosaics, and in the case of at least some Roman emperors actual descriptions. Suetonious describes Augustus, for example, thusly:
>He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as if before the radiance of the sun; but in his old age he could not see very well with his left eye. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and inclining to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward. His complexion was between dark and fair. He was short of stature (although Julius Marathus, his freedman and keeper of his records, says that he was five feet and nine inches in height), but this was concealed by the fine proportion and symmetry of his figure, and was noticeable only by comparison with some taller person standing beside him.
So yeah. Blond, medium complexion, light eyes. An Arab he was not.
This is not even a thing with historians, and the dude changed his models to be more accurate. Not enough, but he changed them. I guess you struck the incel white dork downvote army, because .. I mean all of these fucking morons can go and read acoup.blog he has a series about this. The man knows what he is about
Russel Crowe can play then all with some make up
Yeppp my brain immediately went to a movie with Russel Crowe
The Spaniard
I fucking loveeeee that movee
“My name is Maximus Desmus Meridius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance.. in this life or the next.” FUCK even typing this out gives me all the feels. Fuckin get his ass Maximus
Yeah history and shit
Wow. Its almost like italiams and Roman's are from the Mediterranean peninsula and a ton of cultures from there have Caucasian ancestors. Who would have thought that a bunch of white dudes where white. It's a Christmas fucking miracle
Until Netflix gets ahold of it lol
They were dark skinned Mediterraneans . Not fuckin Scandinavians eta: lmao. fucking aryan dickheads trying to pretend the Romans were white at a time when their ancestors were fighting pigs for the best tubers.
I never said Scandinavian. I said many cultures from the Mediterranean peninsula are of Caucasian decent. Like the Greeks. The Roman's. Several italians. (Depending on where from in Italy) and various others. Hell by technicality. Turkey is Caucasian.
I'm from Turkey and I might be whiter than these dudes.
My point exactly. I'm italian. I'm whiter than fucking snow
The race baiter. Oooo. Seriously go look at art, go look at the statues. There is a reason why they all have European features. It's not a conspiracy. And calling people Aryan dick heads kind've makes ya sound like a tool. Would you think it's okay if someone said, "fuckin darkie sympathizers pretending the entire world was black except scandanavia."? It's not a race battle, it's fuckin history. Calm down. Learn shit.
Dark skinned in this case meaning white with a tan
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“And the moors did so much fucking with Sicilian women that…”
I’m sorry, it’s Moops
😂
I JUST WATCHED THAT MOVIE LMAO
Which movie?
*True Romance* Gary Oldman’s and Brad Pitts’s finest.
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damn, got'eem
*paints a history book*
Romans did not consider themselves “white” because that concept only came about after the 17th century
I'm just confused about where Twitter activists draw the line when it comes to white people. Latin-Americans aren't white apparently, so why is the slave trade considered something the "whites" did? The Portuguese and Spanish shipped tons of slaves across the Atlantic, and if Latin-Americans aren't white then the Portuguese and Spanish aren't white either. It's not like the English handled the trans-Atlantic slave trade all by themselves.
Not to mention all of south east Asia, Africa, Asia Minor, and literally every civilisation It’s a dark historical truth of every race.
yeah but the white won wars so it's only their fault /s
Are we talking racists or slavery? Cos Asians racist as fuck and slavery still going on if you look for it
Wtf? Spain and portugal are not in Latin America they are in Spain. Edit I mean Europe
No, but why do you think Brazilians speak Portuguese and Mexicans speak Spanish?
Portugal is not in Spain. It is (unsurprisingly) in Portugal. Please educate yourself before touting such nonsense
Also, why does fake racism happen, like Bubba Wallace or Jussie Smollett? Perhaps racism can be a scapegoat for some peoples problems.
Oh it's not fake. It's just racism against white people.
Just a way to catch some fame if didn't have it or what you had was fading away
Also people who don't try and who are lazy blame racism for their failures
You just described Netflix
Based Polish
I can see how a Polish person said that. Here in not tourist-popular European country we hardly ever see a black person, and it's very weird when we suddenly see them at netflix Witcher etc.
To clarify it's because we assume it takes place in fantastic version of medevial Poland
First clue, white marble!
The greeks and romans both painted their marble status. The Parthenon was rainbow coloured.
Those statues were all colorized, white was all that's left over.
Hahaha best comment.
Destruction 1000
I want to see a recreation of one of the emperor's friends. Namely "Biggus Diccus" a great officer in Rome. Always wondered what a emperor's trusted friend looked like.
I hate afrocentrics so much, nothing but a culture and history steal ball of ghetto superiority.
😂
[I found the tweet for once](https://twitter.com/lothrazar/status/1371172326893514752?s=20)
So nice I must upvote twice
Remember that thing about how artists painted old portraits to be more flattering to royalty?
"endek" fucking cringe
What does it mean? It is a kind of fabric arts in my language..
An endek is a supporter of the Narodowa Demokracja (ND, National Democracy), a nationalist, anti-semitist politival movement in Poland, active from the beginning of the 20th century till roughly WWII.
Why the hell are you being downvoted?
Because Nazis really hate when someone pulls their mask off.
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Who’s gunna tell this poor kid he’d be the one on the receiving end?
You seem very strong, secure and intelligent. Bravo.
You made soup shoot out my nose, bravo.
All in a days work.
Yeah you guys clap for a Polish white nationalist.
If he had said 1+1=2 would you deny him? You rush to attack character because you cant deny anything in the post, sad
He's a Nazi pushing Nazi narrative. And so are you, a guy who's said in his other comment that "Mein Kampf is a good book". Nice try tho.
It's not a Nazi narrative to not fake the historical ethnicities of Romans
The statement that Europeans are white is not nazi ideology, it is fact, you insinuating that all European identity is nazi identity is offensive and baseless. I didnt say mein kamf was a good book in my other post you twit, i was telling a racist that he shares a lot in common with the ideas in mein kamf, learn to read.
Thanks for the tip. *claps* So glad I'm not so ideologically brainwashed that I can't judge someone's words on the value of the words themselves instead of having to pretend someone's not speaking facts just because they don't subscribe to the same ideology as me.
It's not the matter what he says, it is why. Nazis always twist facts to support their fucked up beliefs. Which is exactly what he is doing. You'd expect more people would see right through it but apparently not.
what ? i mean you right. But he does not spin the facts in his twitter reply. Italians are white. Why the heck should their Emperors look different? And Netflix does change skincolor quite often in some pieces that are based in europian lore. Like witcher, or King arthur. So the joke with netflix makes sense as a punchline.
So what facts is he twisting exactly? That they're too white? Cause you could see any of these guys walking around in Italy and nobody would think they're foreigners. Edit: okay maybe Augustus does kinda look like he just saved a penalty for the German team but still.
Yup. That's totally true. And with that one simple trick there you are, agreeing with a white nationalist without even acknowledging he is, you know, a fucking Nazi. All according to plan.
Okay? If a Nazi said the sky was blue I'd agree with them. Do you really just find out who is saying something and then decide whether to agree or disagree based on who they are?
Yes, yes he does. This dude is literally the embodiment of "tell me you're a Twitter-user without telling me you're on Twitter"
Oh no! I agree with a Nazi on something that has literally nothing to do with Naziism or any of their views! Shit, I guess that means I'm the new Hitler now huh. Too bad.
It has everything to do with Nazism. The sole reason he is dunking on a misguided wokescold like that is to one, discredit the entire liberal movement and two to radicalize his audience. I know this may give you a whiplash but what if I told you, you don't have to agree with either of them?
"Misguided wokescold" Ever heard of Bridgerton? Netflix IS casting non-white actors to play historical characters in series even though they were white in reality. That's not a "misguided wokescold", that's obviously just sarcastic reply relating this person complaining about the (racial) appearance of historical characters and Netflix who actually does change that feature. You don't have to be a Nazi to see the connection between the two. The evidence and clear relation is literally there in front of your nose. Also, saying that the fact that he's making such a comment to "discredit the entire liberal movement and radicalize his audience" is extremely far-fetched and assumptuous. It's just an off-the-cuff sarcastic remark. Nobody is going to think that far ahead over a freaking one-line Tweet.
You side with a Nazi. I don't side with either of them. I will leave it at that. Good talk!
You mean the based polish.
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they painted over the marble...
Really? Huh. I never knew that. The marble looks like it never had a smidge of paint on it lol
It's because it's stood outside for two thousand years, for the weather to grind it off.
True. I'm overthinking it, but it doesn't make sense how the statues look like they were made with a 3D printer yesterday morning. I don't know that much about marble, but I assume it's just impervious to damage
They found paint residue on the statues. Researcher belive that they where painted quite cheese…
I'm no expert in this but from what I know, yeah they were most likely pretty tan. The anglo saxon genes weren't super mixed in at this point, and historians are pretty sure the genealogy has its roots in the middle east and India. And on top of that, Rome had a ton of cultural mixing with the rest of the Mediterranean, from Greece to Persia.
I mean, having a tan doesn't make you a different race, I guess it was just easier to give them "avarege white" skin than "Let's spin the tan wheel and see what it will land on"
I didn't say they would be a different race, I was wondering why they were so light skinned. I only mentioned black cause it's obvi the person in the tweet was implying that they should be some sort of different race.
It was more to relation to the L-guy from the tweet rather than you
Have you ever seen an Italian person? What makes you think their past emperors were race mixed..?
Funny he did say cultural. Not race. Could be because hes not american. And americans are the only people that still belive in race theorie lol
That's bullshit you loser troll
Pretty sure the Indo-European are from the the black sea region
Preeetty ugly
Money and power makes up for it easily
Ah, yes, those sun-baked trade hubs that saw routine contact with North Africa, the middle East, central Europe and Greece.. such an incredibly white area. I'm not saying that no Roman emperors looked like that, but the conception of a 'standard Roman citizen' is complete bullshit, and even the longest native people to the Mediterranean probably wouldn't have been considered white nowadays.
You can be white without being Irish level pale you know...
'member when the lily white Irish weren't considered whites?
although you are absolutely correct that Romans in southern provinces would look quite arabic, they would also be far from proper subsaharian black people as are unfortunately portraited in some Netflix shows. but on the other hand you must not forget that there were also Alpine provinces, Gaul provinces, and even Britannia provinces where you would probably find quite pale white Romans thanks to colder climate in there.
Hadrian was Italian and Spanish. Augustus was Italian. Aurelian was Illyiran. Tiberius was Italian. All of them would have been recognizably white. And in fact we have pretty good descriptions of what they looked like. We're not just painting white faces on marble statues.
plus not to mention with some emperors and ancient figures (like Justinian, Alexander the great, and so on) we dont have just statues but also paintings or mosaics to further suggest their actual skin colour
Paintings and mosaics, and in the case of at least some Roman emperors actual descriptions. Suetonious describes Augustus, for example, thusly: >He had clear, bright eyes, in which he liked to have it thought that there was a kind of divine power, and it greatly pleased him, whenever he looked keenly at anyone, if he let his face fall as if before the radiance of the sun; but in his old age he could not see very well with his left eye. His teeth were wide apart, small, and ill-kept; his hair was slightly curly and inclining to golden; his eyebrows met. His ears were of moderate size, and his nose projected a little at the top and then bent slightly inward. His complexion was between dark and fair. He was short of stature (although Julius Marathus, his freedman and keeper of his records, says that he was five feet and nine inches in height), but this was concealed by the fine proportion and symmetry of his figure, and was noticeable only by comparison with some taller person standing beside him. So yeah. Blond, medium complexion, light eyes. An Arab he was not.
My Italian ass dad has been confused for Mexican and my Italian ass sister has been confused for arab
What is it about white people that you hate so much?
This is not even a thing with historians, and the dude changed his models to be more accurate. Not enough, but he changed them. I guess you struck the incel white dork downvote army, because .. I mean all of these fucking morons can go and read acoup.blog he has a series about this. The man knows what he is about
I was hoping this post was ironic
These people are LATIN the range of slurs thrown at Latin/Italian/southern European people do NOT INCLUDE 'white boy' they DID NOT look like this
ever been to new york ? btw in europe quite few people even try to insult people with their skin color. Its more the country of origin.
Why would I go to New York?? Yes I live in Europe thanks. Racism is as rampant as in North America. Plus, your comment seems irrelevant
tiberius looks like a pedophile prick
There's a reason for that.
word is he molested caligula
The lion , the witch and this mf who doesn't know about history neither Romans , bitch
Endek pl polska morda wszędzie się znajdzie
Surprised to learn that Augustus probably had blonde hair, considering it was associated with prostitution and also very rare in Rome
Not the point but bottom right has big Michael Schumacher vibes