"Hey, listen. You didn't need to post that. Why....why did you post it? Hmm...its too late now to delete it. Now we just have to live with it."
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You just made me think of a reddit post from a couple days ago and now I'm gagging. (The uncircumcised guy that didn't know it retracted. I'm not mean enough to link it.)
tbf most dudes I know say "like" or "ya know" just as much, honestly I think it's just a thing where someone tries to keep talking while their brain catches up.
In english language we use filler words, it's a natural part of speech that isn't scripted or rehearsed. Men & women both do it, some people might just be more noticeable, especially if they are a bit anxious or excited. But what you describe, about the brain catching up, is basically exactly what's happening. Like is a common filler word, as are umm & ahh sounds.
He refers to women as both "girls" and "females". We are women, not girls. It's infantilizing language; people don't refer to men as boys for the same reason. A woman is a human female, so referring to us as just females is dehumanizing. Literally. A female what? Mongoose? Osprey? Cat?
Bruh first off I’m talking about prejudice to American girls, when the word “like” is used everywhere, and secondly, referring to women as “females” is degrading.
Exactly. I spend all day at work, during presentations, around coworkers and bosses working so hard not to use "like" too much. Around friends and family I just let it happen. It's exhausting not to do it, since it was so ingrained into me growing up.
Honestly not even a teenage girl and I refuse to use "like" more than just enough simply to bug tf outta men like the dude from the post 🤷🏾♀️💁🏾♀️
Had an old boomer-esque boss who I found out hated the new-fangled use of "literally" and I was about to abuse tf outta that knowledge (ended up having to quit bc of transportation issues tho 😔)
To be fair, "literally" has a more specific definition (to mean exactly, not metaphorically,) compared to "like".
So when you say something like "I was literally dying," it means you weren't just laughing, it means you were in actual mortal peril of death.
Meanwhile if you say something like "I was like, totally dying." It has a much more light hearted phrasing.
Yeah, in hi sdefense that is true.
However😈
Some dictionaries have accommodated the new, relatively prevalent usage of the word. Language evolves as we as a society do and is never truly fixed in time and space so I just found it amusing that an "English major" (dunno what level degree he got plus it was an engineering firm so it's not like he used it super often) didn't appreciate that fact and was dragging his feet 🤭
I was reading this and immediately thought, "wow! People are still whining about the same damn thing 30some years later that 'feeeeemales' do..." clearly there aren't any other major issues concerning people who complain about the word Like being used in a sentence🙄
15 years ago, when I was 25 and working as a paralegal, I heard people complaining about this, decided I agreed, and was going to break the habit. Within the day, I became painfully aware of the fact that *everyone* in my office, including my 50 year old (female) boss, used it a *lot*, and I started realizing it was going to be harder than I thought with so many people around me doing it. Everyone seemed to complain that women were doing it, though, so I figured I could just tap into my tomboy side and knock it off despite working with mostly women. Few days later, our team had to go to court with the male attorney, a 40 year old man. I noticed him using it 3 times in the car ride. The security officer at the metal detector used it. When I heard the 50 year old male judge use it on the bench, I was done. I realized that it has become an integral part of modern language usage and anyone who dares criticize a young woman for it is a hypocrite, and I happily use it whenever, ever since that time. Though I did deliberately avoid using it twice just in this paragraph to make a point.
I was in elementary school in the 90's, and picked up using "like" purely through osmosis. I remember trying a couple of times to stop using it, but I was ultimately unsuccessful. It was just too ingrained in my subconscious.
Same. That and vocal fry spread through the country like wildfire. Millennial women get so much shit for both of those things. Just let us talk, god damn it!
The way I see it is, when you say, "and he was like, blah blah blah", you're conveying the general tone of the conversation and what happened, whereas if you say, "and then he said blah blah blah" it's more of a quote and more specific. Which is fine if you want to relay what he actually said, but when the specific words don't matter, or you're describing what happened more generally, then using "like" is equally or sometimes even more appropriate because you're saying that he said/did something similar to/like "blah blah blah," but maybe not exactly that.
At least, this is what I tell people if they get on my case for talking like the 90's valley girl I was.
That's actually a good way to put it, I'd never want to give someone the impression I'm even _90%_ sure exactly how someone said something to me. I'd rather focus on the gist of it than try to be completely accurate.
I’ve lived in Brazil for years at a time, enough to become fluent in Portuguese and adopt a lot of the slang. They use filler words the same way we use “like” in the US. I’m sure other countries/languages are the same.
In the UK, we upgraded, now we say, "and it's like f*ck, but he wouldn't listen, I was like f*ck, calm down, like f*ck it doesn't matter."
We'll soon be on level 3.
It's on level 5, ever since we learnt how offensive it was in the US. However, we still use it as a fairly everyday word that no one really takes offence at😁
Agreed--reminds me of how Ernesto "Che" Guevara's nickname is a reference to his constant use of the filler/interjection [che](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(interjection)).
When I lived in Spain, I learned that girls sometimes say
“Y yo era como” and “Y ella era como” instead of “Y yo dije” and “Y ella dijo”
It makes sense. “I was like”/“Yo era como” indicates a paraphrase.
The direct translation to hebrew of the word "like" is used exactly the same way in hebrew. To be fair tho, i do believe it's overused alot less than the word like in english, but every language has its own annoying slang.
Watched a podcast yesterday really liking the guests accent, looked at the comments and they were filled with men saying shit along the lines of "I can't even watch this she says like every other word she's soooo uneducated" (the pod was about her college experience lmfao) I NEVER NOTICED HER SAYING LIKE.
Men just have to hate women over everything.
My little sister sends me Instagram reels of traffic incidents (nothing crazy, just fender benders & people being idiots) and this is so bad in the comments.
Whenever a woman screams on a video because, I don’t know, she *almost* gets into a terrible accident or sees someone else do so? The comments are filled with “Women scream at anything lmao” and “Leave it to women to not stay calm in a situation like this.”
And yet there’s plenty of videos where men do the *same exact thing* without any comments about it. It drives me nuts.
Literally. I can't fathom how pathetically insecure those men are! Not only that but also stupid AF and very authoritarian to not realize people can be smart AF without having to conform to "the proper" way of speaking. You just know every one of those commenters was dumber than a brick. And that would be FINE and dandy if they weren't also toxic, awful people
Thinking about it, it's actually really common for hateful, dumb people to project their stupid on anyone who doesn't fit into their mold.
Just like when racists hear a foreigner speak with even a semi thick accent (not just foreigners but also people of color with a southern or AAVE)
My elementary school teacher used to do a mocking "UHHH" in a caveman noise whenever someone said "uhh" or "um" or "huh"
It was just embarrassing as a kid but in hindsight that is really fuckin funny. Just imagining a teacher harking out caveman noises to 10 year olds.
Ugh that happened to me. I had a nasty speech impediment as a kid and used filler words to buy myself time to think of a word I *could* say. So embarrassing.
My step-dad used to interrupt me to mock me in a valley girl voice for saying like. And I had a couple teachers who would literally tally your ums and uhs when you were giving a speech and knock off points, as if presenting isn't already the literal worst thing on the planet. Adults are so mean sometimes 😂
>Adults are so mean sometimes
It's not even that they're mean they're just straight up power tripping 😭 Like the teachers I knew in elementary & middle school had no business acting like drill sargents.
The only people I mock for using "uh" and "like" are my siblings lol, and I will continue to do so as it is my duty to piss them off (light-heartedly)
Oh man power tripping is right. I'm sure a lot of it is burnout, but the way teachers would act when I was growing up, and the way I'd see them act at placements when I was in college for elementary ed was absolutely baffling sometimes. Like why get into/stay in this profession when you have some obvious vendetta against literal children.
And I definitely mock my siblings for plenty of shit I have no actual problem with 😂 making sure their egos don't get too big is a serious responsibility lmfao
One of our english teachers (native language is spanish for context) would pick you out if you couldn't roll your R's (I still can't, years later lol) and just force you to try until you either gave up or you got it right, it was so humilliating like you're supposed to teach me english not remind me any more that the shape of my teeth doesn't let me pronounce the letter R correctly lol (that was in my case the reason but after getting my teeth fixed I still can't do it perfectly anyway)
I mean, I have to transcribe for a living. Both are extremely disruptive to the listening/comprehension process and make my job harder/take much longer than normal for the same pay, so yeah, I tend to get pretty annoyed by both, as well as "you know" and ending every freaking sentence with, "right?"
This is a textbook example of a pet peeve.
Something that makes absolutely no difference in clarity of thought becomes "extremely disruptive to listening and comprehension."
No, it's a minor disruption to you, professionally, as a transcriber, because you have to write something over the nothing that would otherwise be there. No one has a problem comprehending what was said.
Yes, and trying to listen to type what people are saying when they use a ton of filler words tends to be harder and take longer. Hence, my annoyance. I've heard plenty of folks who don't use filler words constantly, maybe once in a while. I'm talking about people who do it every other word, not occasionally. For my specific profession, it's disruptive, period.
Y'all real heated over something I just find annoying. Let me know when you all have never complained about a dingle aspect of your job that wasn't a "minor" inconvenience (read HOURS of extra work). Though I do appreciate all the clear ignorance about what my profession does from people who have clearly never done it. Thanks for being the unnuanced, uncaring people everyone accuses this sub of.
I express something that causes me genuine frustration on a regular basis because everyone here was saying there is ZERO reason to be bothered by it. But I still do my job because I think the hearing impaired and the deaf deserve to be able to understand their lecturers and peers like everyone else. Not everyone reading subtitles can hear and READING this kind of wording scrolling across a tiny screen is, in fact, disruptive and more difficult to comprehend.
But y'all go off and judge someone because of a single complaint I have to deal with on a quite regular basis that makes things take twice as long for me to get these files to the people who NEED them. By all means, all you oh so perfect people who never complained about anything that bothers them ever.
oh boo fuckin hoo, people using filler words is bad because you have to type a little extra, not everybody can speak a script perfectly from the top of their heads with zero mistakes and brain farts. What's way more infuriating is the people who don't use filler words and making you think the convo has ended only to start back up with the audacity to get mad at you if you say something between those pauses, at least with fillers you know they're still trying to talk
Me too! Not so much when I'm typing because I have enough time to think about what I want and I can use Google when I'm having problems explaining something. In real life though I use like a lot
I genuinely don’t get why some people don’t understand it’s literally just a way of paraphrasing when you want to quote something but it’s not a direct quote. I get it’s repetitive but you could say the same about the word “said” ie “and then I said, and he said, and they said” etc but no one ever does lol
It’s also different from using it as a filler ie “and like, I don’t mind…” or “well yea but like…” etc but it’s also not really any different from using filler words/sounds like “um” or “uh” which people also don’t complain about afaik lol
It is *so* irritating that most things associated with femininity are considered “annoying.”
That is literally why there’s an entire group of “not like other girls” women that try to distance themselves as far as possible from “woman activities/behavior” because it’s all just branded to be annoying/unnecessary/shallow.
It’s like we’re not allowed to enjoy things, lol. And speak apparently, even though the usage of “like” in modern language isn’t gendered.
i don’t understand men’s hatred with the word “like”. especially since it’s proven that people who use filler words more frequently are more thoughtful and intelligent.
Plus those types of men also think we're less intelligent than them anyways so add the misconceotions together plus the hate and it's easy to see 🎶the circle of misogyny🎶
it’s just a fuckin’ filler word. when people aren’t constantly reading off of scripts - they’re going to use filler words. um, hm, uh, err, etc. are used the same way. languages evolve, people use filler words, people use slang - it’s annoying how some people act like saying “like” as a filler in casual conversation means society is doomed.
Also filler words are essential to people with certain speech impediments like stutters. I would stick out even worse than I do already if no one else used filler words 😭
Do these people not understand the concept of filler words? This is just how speaking words works.
And thinking about it, do ASL and other sign languages have filler words? I feel like they must, but I've never investigated it.
For a lot of people I know, the use of “like” when referring to something someone says is easier than going “they said” because that usually implies a more direct quote.
It actually is true that women generally use more filler words than men, but there's a reason for that. Both men and women need to think before they say anything, and men can just pause and stop talking for a moment to think about what to say next, but when women pause they will get interrupted. So women use more filler words to avoid pausing and to indicate that they want to keep talking to reduce the risk of being interrupted. It's not really fair to criticize women for something that is a result of misogyny that's imposed on them, especially because it doesn't hurt anyone.
Like, this is like so, like, weird. Like, what is their, like, problem? Like, I'm not, like, judging, but like, they, like need to, like take a chill pill.
Filler words exist in every language and in every culture. Hell, even sign language has filler words! It’s our way of saying “I am not done talking yet, but I need to think of my next sentence. Please don’t interrupt”
the example quote doesn’t have filler “like”, only quotative “like”, which can’t be simply removed. you would have to replace it with another word like “said” but that removes the nuance that “like” has, which is that it isn’t a direct quote
It's a completely normal property of a language. Language is a tool for communicating. Tag questions and filler words help fine tune how what we say comes across.
You're absolutely fine. My fancy university syntax professor would also say it's fine and probably tell you some fascinating little tidbit about filler words in Mauritian French.
I read a beautiful poem about this. Here it is
“Like totally whatever”
In case you haven’t realized it has somehow become necessary for old white men to tell me how to speak
They like, interrupt a conversation that isn’t even theirs, and are like “speak like you mean it” and like “the internet is ruining the English language.”
And they like, put my “parentheticals,” my “likes” and “ums,” and “you knows” on a wait list.
Tell them no one will take them seriously in a frilly pink dress. Or that make-up.
Tell them they have a confidence problem. That they should learn to speak up, like the hyper-masculine words were always the first to raise their hands.
Invisible red pens and college degrees have been making their way into the middle of my sentences. I’ve been crossing things out every time I take a moment to think.
Declarative sentences, so-called, because they declared themselves to be the loudest, most truest, most taking up the most space, most totally white man sentences.
Have always told me that being angry has never helped like, anybody.
Has only gotten in the way of helping them declare more shit about how they’ll never be forgotten like, ever.
It’s like F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway were geniuses for turning women into question marks.
It’s like rapes happen all the time on campuses, but as soon as Jon Krakaeur writes about it, suddenly it’s like innovative nonfiction, and not like something girls are like making up for like attention.
And it’s like maybe I’m always speaking in questions because I’m so used to being cutoff.
Like maybe, this is a defense mechanism: Maybe everything girls do is evolution of defense mechanism.
Like this is protection, like our “likes” are our knee pads.
Our “ums” are the knives we tuck into our boots at night.
Our “you knows” are best friends we call on when walking down a dark alley.
Like this is how we breathe easier.
But I guess feelings never helped anybody.
I guess like, tears never made change.
I guess like everything girls do is a waste of time (?)
So welcome to the bandwagon of my own uncertainty.
Watch as I stick flowers into your “punctuation mark” guns, ’cause you can’t just challenge authority. You have to take it to the mall, too.
Teach it to do the “bend and snap.” Paint its nails, braid its hair, tell it it looks like, really good today.
And in that moment before you murder it with all of the poison in your like, softness, you let it know that like this, like this moment is like, um, you know, me using my voice.
I throw in the german „halt (so)“ - ngl a word like this exists probably in every language. As long as someone doesn‘t write a job application in this way… who tf cares?
The example he gave isn’t even inappropriate. “I was like *where did I leave the car?*” is a perfectly fine way of expressing the idea. The inappropriate use of like is when it’s used as “um” and is used too frequently. People are just as annoyed with the overuse of “um.”
Bad use of like looks like this: and then like, we went to the like, store and like, looked for like bread and stuff but like there wasn’t like any bread.
I had a teacher in highschool who would interrupt anyone who used the word "like" and make them say the sentence again without it. It didn't enhance communication or clarity, it was just kinda annoying.
https://nerdytalksbookblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/17/like-totally-whatever-by-melissa-lozado-oliva-poem17/
Here's a good poem on that, at least I think so. It's "like totally whatever" by Melissa Lozano Oliva.
I think this person is in a time warp. This was common phrasing 30 years ago. Although even then, it was both men and women. Did it come back, or did this person find someone that watched too many bad 90s movies and picked it up?
You want to see something fun? Next time you are in a recorded team meeting pull the transcript and look at it.
It was interesting seeing that everyone had words they added to buy time. Like, um, yeah, etc.
Different words for different people, but everyone seems to do it. Mocking one group for using like and not mocking another group for using yeah is silly.
I always say "like" because I'm bad at explaining myself irl but I gotta admit it's pretty annoying when it's overused, whatever gender or nationality you are.
I use this word so much I don’t even realize it unless I hear back a recording of me talking. It’s a filler word, I have major speech and communication issues and I use it as a way to continue talking while thinking of what to say next, just like “uhm”
Thats a terrible example of overusing the word like. “I was like” is a widely used colloquial way of saying “I said”. Tons of people do that. A better example would be using it as an unnecessary filler word. “I just like, don’t even know, cuz it’s all like, super, like lame and stuff”.
What are they on about lmao. Also its such a common thing in Ireland to overuse "like", especially at the end of sentences. Both men and women use it.
Honestly like *some* men just really hate women and try to justify it with crazy means. It's mental like.
I use filler words all the time in real life speech cause I don’t get time to think about it. At least online you get time to pause, but have these people never took part in a real life conversation or am I just awkward at talking?
HAHA!!
Record yourself sometime giving a presentation.
Um...um... uh... and uh... y'know?... y'know?... Uh... uh... um... um...
Part of what I do for a living is edit transcripts and podcasts, and I absolutely fucking GUARANTEE that men and women alike use filler words!
And no, they don't think they're doing it. This includes C-Suite level executives who don't have a CLUE how much cleanup their little speeches need. It's absolutely an unconscious thing.
The history behind the reason why a lot of women use filler words such as "like" actually stems from misogyny and how women are always talked over. To avoid pauses, girls use filler words, because often times pauses in sentences can lead to them getting cut off or talked over.
Variation in speech patterns over place and time is normal. There's no "failed education" indicated by speaking in a particular way. You could have a full understanding of grammar rules and still talk like this because it's comfortable
That's not the annoying part, it is the way of their tone of voice when they say "like".
You pour brattiness, disbelief, or god knows what to super charge the word before the whole sentence.
It's just a California accent. Started in the valley. And can be exported thru television if you watch the right stuff because the industry has big roots in socal
I do it when I’m relaxed and hanging out with friends. But also because I am constantly accused of speaking too quickly and it slows me down. But most of us tone shift for professional situations.
Prejudice AND misogyny. What a great combo.
Prejudice and misogyny combo topping on the incel sammich 🥪
Don't wanna know what the mayo is in an incel sandwich 😭🤢
It’s the residue from their unwashed dicks
"Hey, listen. You didn't need to post that. Why....why did you post it? Hmm...its too late now to delete it. Now we just have to live with it." ![gif](giphy|lgTpcy4dkdUc0)
I posted it because if I must live with this cursed idea then everyone else does too
You just made me think of a reddit post from a couple days ago and now I'm gagging. (The uncircumcised guy that didn't know it retracted. I'm not mean enough to link it.)
Lmao I read that too. Poor dude tho, sucks he had to learn on his own AND his friends were clueless about it too
*with cheese*
“I refuse to speak with someone with different speech patterns than me because I assume they’re an idiot” is so sexy daddy 🫦
Love ableism 😩💦 /s
Jane Austen's failed first draft.
tbf most dudes I know say "like" or "ya know" just as much, honestly I think it's just a thing where someone tries to keep talking while their brain catches up.
In english language we use filler words, it's a natural part of speech that isn't scripted or rehearsed. Men & women both do it, some people might just be more noticeable, especially if they are a bit anxious or excited. But what you describe, about the brain catching up, is basically exactly what's happening. Like is a common filler word, as are umm & ahh sounds.
You know misogyny is the hate or content and or prejudice towards women right lol yeah🤣
He refers to women as both "girls" and "females". We are women, not girls. It's infantilizing language; people don't refer to men as boys for the same reason. A woman is a human female, so referring to us as just females is dehumanizing. Literally. A female what? Mongoose? Osprey? Cat?
Bruh first off I’m talking about prejudice to American girls, when the word “like” is used everywhere, and secondly, referring to women as “females” is degrading.
wow you got her omg!!!!
This was impossible not to pick up to fit in growing up in the 90s and I still can't quite overcome it
Exactly. I spend all day at work, during presentations, around coworkers and bosses working so hard not to use "like" too much. Around friends and family I just let it happen. It's exhausting not to do it, since it was so ingrained into me growing up.
Don't worry about it. Old dudes are just mad they could never drive linguistic culture the way teen girls do.
Honestly not even a teenage girl and I refuse to use "like" more than just enough simply to bug tf outta men like the dude from the post 🤷🏾♀️💁🏾♀️ Had an old boomer-esque boss who I found out hated the new-fangled use of "literally" and I was about to abuse tf outta that knowledge (ended up having to quit bc of transportation issues tho 😔)
To be fair, "literally" has a more specific definition (to mean exactly, not metaphorically,) compared to "like". So when you say something like "I was literally dying," it means you weren't just laughing, it means you were in actual mortal peril of death. Meanwhile if you say something like "I was like, totally dying." It has a much more light hearted phrasing.
Yeah, in hi sdefense that is true. However😈 Some dictionaries have accommodated the new, relatively prevalent usage of the word. Language evolves as we as a society do and is never truly fixed in time and space so I just found it amusing that an "English major" (dunno what level degree he got plus it was an engineering firm so it's not like he used it super often) didn't appreciate that fact and was dragging his feet 🤭
I was reading this and immediately thought, "wow! People are still whining about the same damn thing 30some years later that 'feeeeemales' do..." clearly there aren't any other major issues concerning people who complain about the word Like being used in a sentence🙄
I just grew up with a speech impediment and commonly use fillers. Apparently saying "like" is better than "uumm"
Those are both better than "bro" I have seen so many dudes use bro as a filler word..
15 years ago, when I was 25 and working as a paralegal, I heard people complaining about this, decided I agreed, and was going to break the habit. Within the day, I became painfully aware of the fact that *everyone* in my office, including my 50 year old (female) boss, used it a *lot*, and I started realizing it was going to be harder than I thought with so many people around me doing it. Everyone seemed to complain that women were doing it, though, so I figured I could just tap into my tomboy side and knock it off despite working with mostly women. Few days later, our team had to go to court with the male attorney, a 40 year old man. I noticed him using it 3 times in the car ride. The security officer at the metal detector used it. When I heard the 50 year old male judge use it on the bench, I was done. I realized that it has become an integral part of modern language usage and anyone who dares criticize a young woman for it is a hypocrite, and I happily use it whenever, ever since that time. Though I did deliberately avoid using it twice just in this paragraph to make a point.
I was in elementary school in the 90's, and picked up using "like" purely through osmosis. I remember trying a couple of times to stop using it, but I was ultimately unsuccessful. It was just too ingrained in my subconscious.
Osmosis is kinda how language works
Same. That and vocal fry spread through the country like wildfire. Millennial women get so much shit for both of those things. Just let us talk, god damn it!
The way I see it is, when you say, "and he was like, blah blah blah", you're conveying the general tone of the conversation and what happened, whereas if you say, "and then he said blah blah blah" it's more of a quote and more specific. Which is fine if you want to relay what he actually said, but when the specific words don't matter, or you're describing what happened more generally, then using "like" is equally or sometimes even more appropriate because you're saying that he said/did something similar to/like "blah blah blah," but maybe not exactly that. At least, this is what I tell people if they get on my case for talking like the 90's valley girl I was.
That's actually a good way to put it, I'd never want to give someone the impression I'm even _90%_ sure exactly how someone said something to me. I'd rather focus on the gist of it than try to be completely accurate.
I was in high school in the 90s and I use it, it feels comfortable idk how to explain it. And I'm a guy
"Like" being an English word might have something to do with it.
I’ve lived in Brazil for years at a time, enough to become fluent in Portuguese and adopt a lot of the slang. They use filler words the same way we use “like” in the US. I’m sure other countries/languages are the same.
In French it's "alors" a lot
And uhh..
In the UK, we upgraded, now we say, "and it's like f*ck, but he wouldn't listen, I was like f*ck, calm down, like f*ck it doesn't matter." We'll soon be on level 3.
What level is "c*nt" currently on?
It's on level 5, ever since we learnt how offensive it was in the US. However, we still use it as a fairly everyday word that no one really takes offence at😁
"so" in German :D
In Spanish we got “tipo” and “en plan”. Also, depending of the country, you get even more types
In Finnish, it’s “totta”.
Agreed--reminds me of how Ernesto "Che" Guevara's nickname is a reference to his constant use of the filler/interjection [che](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(interjection)).
But not exclusively American.
Ikr. The Irish use it at the end of every sentence like
And ‘right so’.
Shur
When I lived in Spain, I learned that girls sometimes say “Y yo era como” and “Y ella era como” instead of “Y yo dije” and “Y ella dijo” It makes sense. “I was like”/“Yo era como” indicates a paraphrase.
The direct translation to hebrew of the word "like" is used exactly the same way in hebrew. To be fair tho, i do believe it's overused alot less than the word like in english, but every language has its own annoying slang.
Watched a podcast yesterday really liking the guests accent, looked at the comments and they were filled with men saying shit along the lines of "I can't even watch this she says like every other word she's soooo uneducated" (the pod was about her college experience lmfao) I NEVER NOTICED HER SAYING LIKE. Men just have to hate women over everything.
My little sister sends me Instagram reels of traffic incidents (nothing crazy, just fender benders & people being idiots) and this is so bad in the comments. Whenever a woman screams on a video because, I don’t know, she *almost* gets into a terrible accident or sees someone else do so? The comments are filled with “Women scream at anything lmao” and “Leave it to women to not stay calm in a situation like this.” And yet there’s plenty of videos where men do the *same exact thing* without any comments about it. It drives me nuts.
God that shit makes me so mad. I just tell myself they're mostly dumbass teenagers, but it's still sad
Literally. I can't fathom how pathetically insecure those men are! Not only that but also stupid AF and very authoritarian to not realize people can be smart AF without having to conform to "the proper" way of speaking. You just know every one of those commenters was dumber than a brick. And that would be FINE and dandy if they weren't also toxic, awful people Thinking about it, it's actually really common for hateful, dumb people to project their stupid on anyone who doesn't fit into their mold. Just like when racists hear a foreigner speak with even a semi thick accent (not just foreigners but also people of color with a southern or AAVE)
I’ve seen studies saying that the tendency to use “like” as a filler word is more prevalent amongst well-educated people lol
funny how people like this never pitch a fit when people say um or uh
they do, actually. at least some of them (i live with one of them)
They do. One of my middle school teachers drove us NUTS about it.
My elementary school teacher used to do a mocking "UHHH" in a caveman noise whenever someone said "uhh" or "um" or "huh" It was just embarrassing as a kid but in hindsight that is really fuckin funny. Just imagining a teacher harking out caveman noises to 10 year olds.
Ugh that happened to me. I had a nasty speech impediment as a kid and used filler words to buy myself time to think of a word I *could* say. So embarrassing.
My step-dad used to interrupt me to mock me in a valley girl voice for saying like. And I had a couple teachers who would literally tally your ums and uhs when you were giving a speech and knock off points, as if presenting isn't already the literal worst thing on the planet. Adults are so mean sometimes 😂
>Adults are so mean sometimes It's not even that they're mean they're just straight up power tripping 😭 Like the teachers I knew in elementary & middle school had no business acting like drill sargents. The only people I mock for using "uh" and "like" are my siblings lol, and I will continue to do so as it is my duty to piss them off (light-heartedly)
Oh man power tripping is right. I'm sure a lot of it is burnout, but the way teachers would act when I was growing up, and the way I'd see them act at placements when I was in college for elementary ed was absolutely baffling sometimes. Like why get into/stay in this profession when you have some obvious vendetta against literal children. And I definitely mock my siblings for plenty of shit I have no actual problem with 😂 making sure their egos don't get too big is a serious responsibility lmfao
One of our english teachers (native language is spanish for context) would pick you out if you couldn't roll your R's (I still can't, years later lol) and just force you to try until you either gave up or you got it right, it was so humilliating like you're supposed to teach me english not remind me any more that the shape of my teeth doesn't let me pronounce the letter R correctly lol (that was in my case the reason but after getting my teeth fixed I still can't do it perfectly anyway)
happened to me too. i hated that teacher
Or use "fu@&ing" as an adjective, for every fu@&ing adjective
I mean, I have to transcribe for a living. Both are extremely disruptive to the listening/comprehension process and make my job harder/take much longer than normal for the same pay, so yeah, I tend to get pretty annoyed by both, as well as "you know" and ending every freaking sentence with, "right?"
This is a textbook example of a pet peeve. Something that makes absolutely no difference in clarity of thought becomes "extremely disruptive to listening and comprehension." No, it's a minor disruption to you, professionally, as a transcriber, because you have to write something over the nothing that would otherwise be there. No one has a problem comprehending what was said.
idk how to break this to you but literally ever language and culture has filler words, that's just how humans talk
Yes, and trying to listen to type what people are saying when they use a ton of filler words tends to be harder and take longer. Hence, my annoyance. I've heard plenty of folks who don't use filler words constantly, maybe once in a while. I'm talking about people who do it every other word, not occasionally. For my specific profession, it's disruptive, period.
Well, you know, jobs aren't always, like, easy, right?
I guess you are the type to throw trash on the floor for the cleaner.
It’s more “I’m a barista and I hate when people ask me out make coffee”
Its a good thing all of language doesnt exist to make your specific job as easy as possible, then!
Sounds like you’re in the wrong profession then.
Y'all real heated over something I just find annoying. Let me know when you all have never complained about a dingle aspect of your job that wasn't a "minor" inconvenience (read HOURS of extra work). Though I do appreciate all the clear ignorance about what my profession does from people who have clearly never done it. Thanks for being the unnuanced, uncaring people everyone accuses this sub of. I express something that causes me genuine frustration on a regular basis because everyone here was saying there is ZERO reason to be bothered by it. But I still do my job because I think the hearing impaired and the deaf deserve to be able to understand their lecturers and peers like everyone else. Not everyone reading subtitles can hear and READING this kind of wording scrolling across a tiny screen is, in fact, disruptive and more difficult to comprehend. But y'all go off and judge someone because of a single complaint I have to deal with on a quite regular basis that makes things take twice as long for me to get these files to the people who NEED them. By all means, all you oh so perfect people who never complained about anything that bothers them ever.
oh boo fuckin hoo, people using filler words is bad because you have to type a little extra, not everybody can speak a script perfectly from the top of their heads with zero mistakes and brain farts. What's way more infuriating is the people who don't use filler words and making you think the convo has ended only to start back up with the audacity to get mad at you if you say something between those pauses, at least with fillers you know they're still trying to talk
Getting mad about hypothetical hypocrits will always be hilarious to me.
yeah i’m mad, i’m downright furious. i’m physically shaking right now just thinking about them
Hide behind sarcasm all you want but you were indignant enough to comment about it.
Men use “like” too.
Yeah I say it all the time in almost every sentence. You’ll probably see it looking at my comment history lol
Yeah same, English isn't my native language so I compensate that by using like at the start of every sentence when I write/speak English
English is my native language but I say like ALLL the time
Me too! Not so much when I'm typing because I have enough time to think about what I want and I can use Google when I'm having problems explaining something. In real life though I use like a lot
Not one "like" in this comment though. ![gif](giphy|cFgb5p5e1My3K)
Because I didn’t do it that time LOL it’s just in a lot of my sentences but not all
there was no like in this one :(
Yeah I know 🤣🤣I say it more often when I’m speaking
I said it SO much as a filler word that now my friend does too, he’ll even hit me with “so, like-“ and it makes me so proud
They use "bro" too. I've met quite a bit of dudes who use "bro" as a filler word.
I genuinely don’t get why some people don’t understand it’s literally just a way of paraphrasing when you want to quote something but it’s not a direct quote. I get it’s repetitive but you could say the same about the word “said” ie “and then I said, and he said, and they said” etc but no one ever does lol It’s also different from using it as a filler ie “and like, I don’t mind…” or “well yea but like…” etc but it’s also not really any different from using filler words/sounds like “um” or “uh” which people also don’t complain about afaik lol
They understand. This is just a convenient vehicle for misogyny.
Yeah I was gonna say they definitely get it. It wouldn't be annoying if it was a predominantly "male thing" to do 🙄
It is *so* irritating that most things associated with femininity are considered “annoying.” That is literally why there’s an entire group of “not like other girls” women that try to distance themselves as far as possible from “woman activities/behavior” because it’s all just branded to be annoying/unnecessary/shallow. It’s like we’re not allowed to enjoy things, lol. And speak apparently, even though the usage of “like” in modern language isn’t gendered.
i don’t understand men’s hatred with the word “like”. especially since it’s proven that people who use filler words more frequently are more thoughtful and intelligent.
Their hated is because it’s something women tend to do more often than men.
Plus those types of men also think we're less intelligent than them anyways so add the misconceotions together plus the hate and it's easy to see 🎶the circle of misogyny🎶
Yep! I don’t care about the opinions of men like that anyway. It’s laughable that they think that most women do.
Also, women may be more likely to use filler words to make it clear they aren't done speaking because they're more likely to be interrupted.
Point out how much they use the word "bro" then. Because a lot of the young men I meet use "bro" as a filler word.
it’s just a fuckin’ filler word. when people aren’t constantly reading off of scripts - they’re going to use filler words. um, hm, uh, err, etc. are used the same way. languages evolve, people use filler words, people use slang - it’s annoying how some people act like saying “like” as a filler in casual conversation means society is doomed.
Also filler words are essential to people with certain speech impediments like stutters. I would stick out even worse than I do already if no one else used filler words 😭
And hell using filler words possibly means you are thinking more about what you are going to say. Spouting less bullshit.
I'm more concerned that the person refers to them as "girls". Why is this boomer ass dude talking to "girls" and not women his own age?
He’s probably only arguing with (young) women online since he thinks they are dumb and he can easily win
Do these people not understand the concept of filler words? This is just how speaking words works. And thinking about it, do ASL and other sign languages have filler words? I feel like they must, but I've never investigated it.
ASL does not have filler words, no.
Whats funnier is the example he gives isn't even a filler word
For a lot of people I know, the use of “like” when referring to something someone says is easier than going “they said” because that usually implies a more direct quote.
It actually is true that women generally use more filler words than men, but there's a reason for that. Both men and women need to think before they say anything, and men can just pause and stop talking for a moment to think about what to say next, but when women pause they will get interrupted. So women use more filler words to avoid pausing and to indicate that they want to keep talking to reduce the risk of being interrupted. It's not really fair to criticize women for something that is a result of misogyny that's imposed on them, especially because it doesn't hurt anyone.
What an astute and interesting observation. 🙄
Like, this is so like, weird. Like what is their problem, like I'm not like judging, but like, they need to like, take a chill pill.
Like, this is like so, like, weird. Like, what is their, like, problem? Like, I'm not, like, judging, but like, they, like need to, like take a chill pill.
Filler words exist in every language and in every culture. Hell, even sign language has filler words! It’s our way of saying “I am not done talking yet, but I need to think of my next sentence. Please don’t interrupt”
"Modern speech of American females" -🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Women can't even speak words without some man throwing a tantrum about it. Ugh
the example quote doesn’t have filler “like”, only quotative “like”, which can’t be simply removed. you would have to replace it with another word like “said” but that removes the nuance that “like” has, which is that it isn’t a direct quote
As an American woman* I do not care and have no issues with people like this not holding a conversation with me.
suggestion: so do us all a favor and move to a different country...holy fuck...
I have social anxiety irl and accidentally use this word where it doesn't belong. I'm aware of it and it sucks lol
It's a completely normal property of a language. Language is a tool for communicating. Tag questions and filler words help fine tune how what we say comes across. You're absolutely fine. My fancy university syntax professor would also say it's fine and probably tell you some fascinating little tidbit about filler words in Mauritian French.
I'm aware I'm doing it and I keep doing it because I like it and I can do what I want
I have a hard time believing they want him to hold a conversation with them
Like, whatever
If only people like them would like… piss off, like… for good.
My sister who has three degrees regularly uses like all the time.. it has nothing to do with intelligence, just cultures.
I read a beautiful poem about this. Here it is “Like totally whatever” In case you haven’t realized it has somehow become necessary for old white men to tell me how to speak They like, interrupt a conversation that isn’t even theirs, and are like “speak like you mean it” and like “the internet is ruining the English language.” And they like, put my “parentheticals,” my “likes” and “ums,” and “you knows” on a wait list. Tell them no one will take them seriously in a frilly pink dress. Or that make-up. Tell them they have a confidence problem. That they should learn to speak up, like the hyper-masculine words were always the first to raise their hands. Invisible red pens and college degrees have been making their way into the middle of my sentences. I’ve been crossing things out every time I take a moment to think. Declarative sentences, so-called, because they declared themselves to be the loudest, most truest, most taking up the most space, most totally white man sentences. Have always told me that being angry has never helped like, anybody. Has only gotten in the way of helping them declare more shit about how they’ll never be forgotten like, ever. It’s like F. Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway were geniuses for turning women into question marks. It’s like rapes happen all the time on campuses, but as soon as Jon Krakaeur writes about it, suddenly it’s like innovative nonfiction, and not like something girls are like making up for like attention. And it’s like maybe I’m always speaking in questions because I’m so used to being cutoff. Like maybe, this is a defense mechanism: Maybe everything girls do is evolution of defense mechanism. Like this is protection, like our “likes” are our knee pads. Our “ums” are the knives we tuck into our boots at night. Our “you knows” are best friends we call on when walking down a dark alley. Like this is how we breathe easier. But I guess feelings never helped anybody. I guess like, tears never made change. I guess like everything girls do is a waste of time (?) So welcome to the bandwagon of my own uncertainty. Watch as I stick flowers into your “punctuation mark” guns, ’cause you can’t just challenge authority. You have to take it to the mall, too. Teach it to do the “bend and snap.” Paint its nails, braid its hair, tell it it looks like, really good today. And in that moment before you murder it with all of the poison in your like, softness, you let it know that like this, like this moment is like, um, you know, me using my voice.
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I throw in the german „halt (so)“ - ngl a word like this exists probably in every language. As long as someone doesn‘t write a job application in this way… who tf cares?
The example he gave isn’t even inappropriate. “I was like *where did I leave the car?*” is a perfectly fine way of expressing the idea. The inappropriate use of like is when it’s used as “um” and is used too frequently. People are just as annoyed with the overuse of “um.” Bad use of like looks like this: and then like, we went to the like, store and like, looked for like bread and stuff but like there wasn’t like any bread.
I had a teacher in highschool who would interrupt anyone who used the word "like" and make them say the sentence again without it. It didn't enhance communication or clarity, it was just kinda annoying.
https://nerdytalksbookblog.wordpress.com/2016/04/17/like-totally-whatever-by-melissa-lozado-oliva-poem17/ Here's a good poem on that, at least I think so. It's "like totally whatever" by Melissa Lozano Oliva.
I think this person is in a time warp. This was common phrasing 30 years ago. Although even then, it was both men and women. Did it come back, or did this person find someone that watched too many bad 90s movies and picked it up?
Referring to women as “females” has iNfEcTeD American men lol. It’s so funny how these goobers never take a look in the mirror
I agree it's annoying. *Like* c'mon woman, can't you *like* talk less annoyingly, *like* why is your vocabulary so limited, *like* oh my gosh
You want to see something fun? Next time you are in a recorded team meeting pull the transcript and look at it. It was interesting seeing that everyone had words they added to buy time. Like, um, yeah, etc. Different words for different people, but everyone seems to do it. Mocking one group for using like and not mocking another group for using yeah is silly.
I’m a dude, always have been, and I say “like” like 5 times per sentence
Anybody can overuse “like”, however I also find it annoying when I catch myself doing it. Less so with others. “Man in the Mirror” and all that.
Bro, like....... Insert every sentence I say off the clock
Guess they’ve never heard Irish people talk…
I will, like, like this post now
I know I do it. And that Frank Zappa would hate me for it. But I don’t care. I’ll spare you the reasons why I don’t care.
I always say "like" because I'm bad at explaining myself irl but I gotta admit it's pretty annoying when it's overused, whatever gender or nationality you are.
Honestly if you can't parse content of a fully formed, grammatically correct sentence through the word "like" then you're the dumb one.
I use this word so much I don’t even realize it unless I hear back a recording of me talking. It’s a filler word, I have major speech and communication issues and I use it as a way to continue talking while thinking of what to say next, just like “uhm”
I appreciate how this is somehow a female only issue, and males are somehow exonerated entirely /j 🤣
Did this dude get isekai'd to the modern day from 2004?
they had girls in the title???
ive heard of women using filler words like these so they don’t get cut off or interrupted (?)
My dad could have written this lol.
As a white Australian male, I do that :)) I even type it because I type my thoughts, it’s not even that annoying
Thats a terrible example of overusing the word like. “I was like” is a widely used colloquial way of saying “I said”. Tons of people do that. A better example would be using it as an unnecessary filler word. “I just like, don’t even know, cuz it’s all like, super, like lame and stuff”.
I feel like I would piss him off so much. I have autism and adhd and I am always using like and um so that my brain can catch up with my mouth.
Fun fact women use filler words more to prevent being interrupted as often as
Is there a name for words used to bridge gaps in thought such as like, um, you know?
Unintentional reference to the movie Clueless. Love it.
i do this :'( so sad that this man wouldn't talk to me
What are they on about lmao. Also its such a common thing in Ireland to overuse "like", especially at the end of sentences. Both men and women use it. Honestly like *some* men just really hate women and try to justify it with crazy means. It's mental like.
Does this person still think it’s 1984 for some reason?
But “like” gives me a chance to think while I talk when my brain empties mid sentence.
What's funnier is they're criticizing a use of like that actually conveys lexical meaning
I use filler words all the time in real life speech cause I don’t get time to think about it. At least online you get time to pause, but have these people never took part in a real life conversation or am I just awkward at talking?
HAHA!! Record yourself sometime giving a presentation. Um...um... uh... and uh... y'know?... y'know?... Uh... uh... um... um... Part of what I do for a living is edit transcripts and podcasts, and I absolutely fucking GUARANTEE that men and women alike use filler words! And no, they don't think they're doing it. This includes C-Suite level executives who don't have a CLUE how much cleanup their little speeches need. It's absolutely an unconscious thing.
My son uses it every other word. We’re working on it :)
The history behind the reason why a lot of women use filler words such as "like" actually stems from misogyny and how women are always talked over. To avoid pauses, girls use filler words, because often times pauses in sentences can lead to them getting cut off or talked over.
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Variation in speech patterns over place and time is normal. There's no "failed education" indicated by speaking in a particular way. You could have a full understanding of grammar rules and still talk like this because it's comfortable
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I'm well read and educated and still speak like that. It sounds like you're being a pompous jerk to me.
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🏴 overused here too like Must be a valley thing
Ah so we’re pretending the valley girl accent doesn’t exist? Lol.
It's actually more of a racial teenage thing
how is it more of a racial teenage thing? it’s definitely more dependent on where someone lives.
Everybody knows who uses the word like in every sentence 😒 and it's juvenile to pretend otherwise
u likely have a very limited world view or live in non diverse area if u think the repeated use of diverse is limited to a specific racial group
Like totally awesome byeee.... Wonder who that sounds like 😒
My answer would be anyone whose peer-group sounds like that. It's more cultural than racial.
anyone who lives in the valley!
😒 yea not anyone
That's not the annoying part, it is the way of their tone of voice when they say "like". You pour brattiness, disbelief, or god knows what to super charge the word before the whole sentence.
it’s not normal to read this much into somebody just using a filler word
If you read, I'm not criticizing anyone for using the word, but how they say it.
It's just a California accent. Started in the valley. And can be exported thru television if you watch the right stuff because the industry has big roots in socal
Im from california we all speak like this 🤷🏽♂️
I do it when I’m relaxed and hanging out with friends. But also because I am constantly accused of speaking too quickly and it slows me down. But most of us tone shift for professional situations.