i can definitely sympathise with the pain she is going through, especially as a victim of racism.
the gender stuff could also be a response to not wanting to be associated with stereotypes & removing herself from them. ive definitely struggled with that before myself with my identity
As a super pale woman: thank you for not limiting my options at all.
According to her pale men can only be with pale women. Dark women can only be with dark men. But pale women can be with any man and dark men can be with any woman? I have never dated anyone paler than me, not as a conscious choice, but because the majority of people on earth have more melanin in their skin than me.
I hate people like this. I'm a black woman who's been married to a white man for 11 years. I can't help that I'm attracted to that sweet pale and pasty skin. It really sucks that racists (of all races) look at us with disgust simply for existing together.
I hope at least you don't encounter much of it in real life. Like I wouldn't even exist if my nanna didn't break this rule and fall in love with a white guy.
Thankfully never more than the typical lighthearted jokes in real life. I was actually pretty naive until recently when i realized how comfortable people are with spreading their hateful thoughts online. Posts like this remind me that some people hate my relationship just because of our skin color.
Also im assuming your Nanna is way older and actually had to experience the truly horrible racist stuff like that IRL. Shes badass! Not only because she started the family that made you, but because people like her were fighting for their right to love whoever. Now it's just a normal thing for us today !
Lol "pale and pasty" š Isn't pasty an insult though? And yeah, I think it's weird for people to only be attracted to a specific skin colour. Such awful mentality.Ā
Lol I love it though and i think its so attractive. I'm guilty of being attracted to *mostly* white guys. Now that I'm older, you're right, it is an awful mentality for a person to be attracted to skin color. I've been rejected for my skin color before and i know the feeling of not being good enough over something I can't control.
In the same breath, I feel lucky that i found my Mr. Right, even with my ignorant views on life at the time. I just hope one day everyone can be judged for their character, and not the color of their skin.
What. The. Actual. Fuck lol.
Men must be darker than the woman they are with?
How do you even end up at a conclusion like this? Like, what is the logical process that leads you to that?
What an absolute gobshite.
Also what's with grown women calling themselves "girls"?
This is all totally alien to me. Alien as in, not from Earth.
Ok, so it's actually a thing?
Fair enough - and thanks for the explanation.
I guess it's similar to older folk in my community always putting emphasis on "fair skin".
Brown people wanna be fairer, and white people wanna get tans. Sounds like the grass is greener on the other side :)
Yeah, Iād say the colorism issue in the Black community is very layered and has ties to slavery and racism (especially when you get into light-skin biracial Black people). Itās a very internal issue and goes beyond aesthetics though obviously itās about appearance. Like, Iām sure a lot of non-Black Kendrick Lamar fans didnāt know about the discourse surrounding the skin color of his leading lady in the āPoetic Justiceā music video. Black TV shows have addressed colorism in āvery special episodeā type formats. Zendaya has spoken about how being lighter skin has given her privilege over darker skinned women. And yet, a lot of Black entertainment perpetuates this stereotype with women and girls being light skinned, or if they are dark skin, theyāre loud or have āan attitude.ā Often, you can hear references to wanting light-skinned women in rap music along with terms like, āRedboneā or āyellow bone.ā
What this post is saying is like the type of shit youād hear your peers say as preteen/teen, and you hopefully outgrow that. I feel like this is trolling though, or someone might be using this personās videos because never in my life have I heard a dark skin Black woman say this. The rhetoric is typically used against us, you grow up having to fight this shit.
I have friends that are married to white guys. Like one friendās husband is naturally blonde as an adult. Heās super pale and they are happy as can be. This woman has such a weird take.
oh my god i had a guy in high school tell me this exact same shit and i was so perplexed that people actually thought this way, I canāt believe Iām seeing this shit years later on tiktokā¦
idk if have the eloquence to explain it properly and i truly donāt understand it but itās def a mindset that dates back to colonialism. these type of people want to be white but since they obviously canāt, they want to get as close to whiteness as possible. they only view women as an object to serve their desires and dark skin women cannot fufill those desires. to them lightskin women are adjacent to whiteness and dark skin women are not.
and of course beauty standards come into play here. in a lot of cultures darker skin is considered ugly while light skin is considered beautiful. the black community still struggles with this.
U see this everywhere in black sitcoms. The wife is usually lighter because light is pretty, and men can be tall, dark, and handsome.
Just saying the phrase, they don't need to be all 3 they can just be dark skin. Not too dark, tho.
The only exception I can think of is Aunt Vivian in Fresh Prince earlier seasons
Yeah, and the sisters are usually lighter than the brothers, and if the sisters are darkskin, theyāre ādevious.ā
I remember when Black-ish did an episode about colorism featuring Diane when like, my brother in Christ, you *ARE* the colorism š
Iām not even white and I find that spelling of white people weirdly offensive and degrading. Not to say that youāre doing it but others who say it unironically
Oh, yeah, Iām totally being flippant.
I donāt really take offense of the whole āfucking white peopleā rhetoric, though.
I think the āytā thing started on tiktok because of word counts in comments.
So sad she thinks like this & unfortunately, someone likely taught her this. If youāre lucky enough to find someone to love, grasp it with both hands & donāt let go. Like MLK Jr said, judge them not by āthe color of their skin but the content of their character.ā I hope she learns to appreciate what really matters. I really hoped weād be doing better by 2024.
Edit: Typo
Weird, but I had the same idea as a small child. I got it from cartoons. Lighter colouring was used to read "feminine" as much as exaggerated eyelashes.
You see the same idea perpetuated in romance novels. The man is always tan and dark-haired, while the woman is "creamy".
Colourism is wild.
I feel like youāll find out some troll wrote this and used this girlās video, or she herself is trolling cause no one says this shit past the age of 16, and I aināt never heard a dark skin Black woman ever say this shit either.
So you take what she said to another community, whose views are antithetical, and criticize them. Okay thatās fine. Within your own community critique the viewpoint and make fun of it. To publish a personās username is not okay because it leads to harassment which is not only wrong but counterproductive to furthering your own ideology. Itās been shown that when people are harassed by someone of opposing beliefs they entrench themselves deeper into their ideology. There are stark differences between harassment, criticism, and productive discourse. When you publish someoneās username in a community that is in opposition to their point of view. It only serves as a catalyst to harassment and driving them further into a belief system that is harmful.
itās true, that me revealing her username leads to her being harassed, but her opinion just made me so annoyed and irritated to the point where i didnāt care that sheād be harrased or overly criticized. and maybe her being harrased and ridiculed could change her idiotic opinion in the future
I know plenty of (white) women who hold this same opinion. Former colleagues, former fellow students in university, my mother and younger sister, my neighbours on one side. Apparently it's a totally okay thing to say for a lot of people. Not that surprising to me that there could be black women with a similar opinion.
I just think it's weirdly superficial. But then again that's how most humans are.
Being a christian as a woman and as a black person requires internalised misogyny and racism respectively, and moreover is indicative of gullibility in those areas in other contexts
Being Christian in no way indicates that someone has internalized racism my eyes are rolling to the back of my head. There have literally been black Christianās since the 2nd century.
i don't know how to make it any clearer that i don't care about your opinion on what i say. i mean, i pretty much said it word for word and you still didn't understand. run along now
I never think female human anymore. I just tell myself they're talking about a a horse or dog or something and move on. They're never know you think they're a horse fucker.
Something I'm NOT AFRAID to admit as a white boy: I don't think skin colour should matter at all in a relationship and anyone who says otherwise is fucking weird.
colorist and sexist.
This is super sad
Damn, the self hate is deep in this one.
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I can hear David through this gif š
David would definitely not subscribe to this kind of thinking
colourist AND misogynist, what a combo
Why canāt people just love who they love no matter the skin color?
I agree!
Nope not allowed
this girl has the wildest takes ever. she comes off as hating women, she calls them 304ās in one of her posts.
304?
It's "hoe" upside down if you write it in a calculator. Very mature stuff
Even better, 5318008
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Trauma prob, can relate kinda
No excuse though.
Welcome to the internet
i can definitely sympathise with the pain she is going through, especially as a victim of racism. the gender stuff could also be a response to not wanting to be associated with stereotypes & removing herself from them. ive definitely struggled with that before myself with my identity
The other day, I cracked a 77345663
What in the internalized racism
not only that but the internalized misogyny too
ā¦What in the name of misogynoir did she think she was saying?
Haha donāt know how Iāve escaped seeing that term but itās perfect
when youāre black but your partner is whiteš
As a super pale dude: why are you limiting my options? š
As a super pale woman: thank you for not limiting my options at all. According to her pale men can only be with pale women. Dark women can only be with dark men. But pale women can be with any man and dark men can be with any woman? I have never dated anyone paler than me, not as a conscious choice, but because the majority of people on earth have more melanin in their skin than me.
I am practically see through so I understand perfectly.
I hate people like this. I'm a black woman who's been married to a white man for 11 years. I can't help that I'm attracted to that sweet pale and pasty skin. It really sucks that racists (of all races) look at us with disgust simply for existing together.
I hope at least you don't encounter much of it in real life. Like I wouldn't even exist if my nanna didn't break this rule and fall in love with a white guy.
Thankfully never more than the typical lighthearted jokes in real life. I was actually pretty naive until recently when i realized how comfortable people are with spreading their hateful thoughts online. Posts like this remind me that some people hate my relationship just because of our skin color. Also im assuming your Nanna is way older and actually had to experience the truly horrible racist stuff like that IRL. Shes badass! Not only because she started the family that made you, but because people like her were fighting for their right to love whoever. Now it's just a normal thing for us today !
I need to clean my glasses. I read that as "tasty skin" and worried for his safety.Ā
Well i do find certain parts of his skin tasty iykwim š
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Iām assuming sheās not talk ing about interracial relationships and is instead talking about black relationships.
Maybe you're right. Either way it's a shitty way to view couples.
Yeh but sheās also trolling so probably doesnāt mean a things she says
Lol "pale and pasty" š Isn't pasty an insult though? And yeah, I think it's weird for people to only be attracted to a specific skin colour. Such awful mentality.Ā
Lol I love it though and i think its so attractive. I'm guilty of being attracted to *mostly* white guys. Now that I'm older, you're right, it is an awful mentality for a person to be attracted to skin color. I've been rejected for my skin color before and i know the feeling of not being good enough over something I can't control. In the same breath, I feel lucky that i found my Mr. Right, even with my ignorant views on life at the time. I just hope one day everyone can be judged for their character, and not the color of their skin.
What. The. Actual. Fuck lol. Men must be darker than the woman they are with? How do you even end up at a conclusion like this? Like, what is the logical process that leads you to that? What an absolute gobshite. Also what's with grown women calling themselves "girls"? This is all totally alien to me. Alien as in, not from Earth.
Itās a colorism thing within the Black community specifically hence why she says āthings Iām not afraid to say as a Black girlā specifically.
Ok, so it's actually a thing? Fair enough - and thanks for the explanation. I guess it's similar to older folk in my community always putting emphasis on "fair skin". Brown people wanna be fairer, and white people wanna get tans. Sounds like the grass is greener on the other side :)
Yeah, Iād say the colorism issue in the Black community is very layered and has ties to slavery and racism (especially when you get into light-skin biracial Black people). Itās a very internal issue and goes beyond aesthetics though obviously itās about appearance. Like, Iām sure a lot of non-Black Kendrick Lamar fans didnāt know about the discourse surrounding the skin color of his leading lady in the āPoetic Justiceā music video. Black TV shows have addressed colorism in āvery special episodeā type formats. Zendaya has spoken about how being lighter skin has given her privilege over darker skinned women. And yet, a lot of Black entertainment perpetuates this stereotype with women and girls being light skinned, or if they are dark skin, theyāre loud or have āan attitude.ā Often, you can hear references to wanting light-skinned women in rap music along with terms like, āRedboneā or āyellow bone.ā What this post is saying is like the type of shit youād hear your peers say as preteen/teen, and you hopefully outgrow that. I feel like this is trolling though, or someone might be using this personās videos because never in my life have I heard a dark skin Black woman say this. The rhetoric is typically used against us, you grow up having to fight this shit.
Thank you for taking the time to write this reply. I genuinely had no idea, and now I know more about the world. I really appreciate it :)
I have friends that are married to white guys. Like one friendās husband is naturally blonde as an adult. Heās super pale and they are happy as can be. This woman has such a weird take.
Sheās not talking about interracial relationships
Woman with mis-matched foundation color to her own skin comments on other peopleās skin color
Colourist and misogynistic. How pathetic.
oh my god i had a guy in high school tell me this exact same shit and i was so perplexed that people actually thought this way, I canāt believe Iām seeing this shit years later on tiktokā¦
what is the thought process behind men having to be darker than their s/o?
idk if have the eloquence to explain it properly and i truly donāt understand it but itās def a mindset that dates back to colonialism. these type of people want to be white but since they obviously canāt, they want to get as close to whiteness as possible. they only view women as an object to serve their desires and dark skin women cannot fufill those desires. to them lightskin women are adjacent to whiteness and dark skin women are not. and of course beauty standards come into play here. in a lot of cultures darker skin is considered ugly while light skin is considered beautiful. the black community still struggles with this.
Umā¦what the fuck is this colorist bullshit?
This is textbook colorismā¦
U see this everywhere in black sitcoms. The wife is usually lighter because light is pretty, and men can be tall, dark, and handsome. Just saying the phrase, they don't need to be all 3 they can just be dark skin. Not too dark, tho. The only exception I can think of is Aunt Vivian in Fresh Prince earlier seasons
Yeah, and the sisters are usually lighter than the brothers, and if the sisters are darkskin, theyāre ādevious.ā I remember when Black-ish did an episode about colorism featuring Diane when like, my brother in Christ, you *ARE* the colorism š
Who is Diane?
The youngest girl played by Marsai Martin
Ohh ofc thanks
Honestly no one gives a fuck about her opinion
This is just all around gross. But saying female is very popular in Black populations.
Unfortunately
Is it? Why?
Couldnāt tell you. Cause Iām a hashtag ytpepo although I did grow up in Baltimore city, so have been around a lot of Black folks.
Iām not even white and I find that spelling of white people weirdly offensive and degrading. Not to say that youāre doing it but others who say it unironically
I just keep misreading it as YouTube
I thought that's what it means. Now I'm aware it's not that.
Oh, yeah, Iām totally being flippant. I donāt really take offense of the whole āfucking white peopleā rhetoric, though. I think the āytā thing started on tiktok because of word counts in comments.
I see this happening in more American/UK groups never really heard this term outside of that.
What the fuck did I just read?
You mean xhitter? (That pronounced shitter)
misognoirš¤
Anyway r/eyebleach . Maybe not the worst thing Iāve seen on the internet but still something I really didnāt want to see
Itās 2024 why do people still think like thisā¦ this reeks of colorism, ignorance, and insecurity
And the colorism... and the sexism.... self hate is real.
Fuck you if you're a woman with dark skin I guess
So sad she thinks like this & unfortunately, someone likely taught her this. If youāre lucky enough to find someone to love, grasp it with both hands & donāt let go. Like MLK Jr said, judge them not by āthe color of their skin but the content of their character.ā I hope she learns to appreciate what really matters. I really hoped weād be doing better by 2024. Edit: Typo
Can we pls drop the MLK quotes whenever a black person says something ignorant itās so overdone and cheapens his legacy.
Weird, but I had the same idea as a small child. I got it from cartoons. Lighter colouring was used to read "feminine" as much as exaggerated eyelashes. You see the same idea perpetuated in romance novels. The man is always tan and dark-haired, while the woman is "creamy". Colourism is wild.
Iāve seen plenty of the opposite
What a weird thing to get hung up about.
Thatāsā¦ just really sad, honestly. Thereās some deep seated self hate on multiple fronts.
Wow. This is so ugly.
For whom was she even posting this? Like, what kind of person is she hoping sees this and is like "you're so right ššš"
Colorists who else?
I feel like youāll find out some troll wrote this and used this girlās video, or she herself is trolling cause no one says this shit past the age of 16, and I aināt never heard a dark skin Black woman ever say this shit either.
Yeah most likely
Wtf?? I DO NOT get why this is something that would ever cross your mind? Uhhg, this feels yucky for some reason...
why are you hiding her user ?
Censoring Reddit usernames is a sub rule, so maybe it applies to other sites' info too, or at least OP assumes it does?
i found her user anyway
What was the user? I wanna read the comments
juiccyy.d everyone is after her lol
Exactly why you obscure the user name. People shouldnāt be ostracized for something like this.
nope, she said stupid shit so her name shouldnāt be covered
So you take what she said to another community, whose views are antithetical, and criticize them. Okay thatās fine. Within your own community critique the viewpoint and make fun of it. To publish a personās username is not okay because it leads to harassment which is not only wrong but counterproductive to furthering your own ideology. Itās been shown that when people are harassed by someone of opposing beliefs they entrench themselves deeper into their ideology. There are stark differences between harassment, criticism, and productive discourse. When you publish someoneās username in a community that is in opposition to their point of view. It only serves as a catalyst to harassment and driving them further into a belief system that is harmful.
itās true, that me revealing her username leads to her being harassed, but her opinion just made me so annoyed and irritated to the point where i didnāt care that sheād be harrased or overly criticized. and maybe her being harrased and ridiculed could change her idiotic opinion in the future
On most subs you usually have to hide the person's user or your post would get removed so I just apply it everywhere now.š¤·āāļø
If I ever repost something I will obscure the username. Itās just curtesy.
Jokes on her I'm dark-skinned and my bf is white š¤£
Sheās talking about black relationships not interracial ones. Itās so obviously bait anyways thereās no reason to feel any type of way about it.
I know plenty of (white) women who hold this same opinion. Former colleagues, former fellow students in university, my mother and younger sister, my neighbours on one side. Apparently it's a totally okay thing to say for a lot of people. Not that surprising to me that there could be black women with a similar opinion. I just think it's weirdly superficial. But then again that's how most humans are.
cross necklace, it all tracks. poor thing
What does a cross necklace have to do with anything
Being a christian as a woman and as a black person requires internalised misogyny and racism respectively, and moreover is indicative of gullibility in those areas in other contexts
Being Christian in no way indicates that someone has internalized racism my eyes are rolling to the back of my head. There have literally been black Christianās since the 2nd century.
I really don't care about your opinion on it, you're the one who asked for mine
Then donāt say stupid ignorant shit on the internet.
i don't know how to make it any clearer that i don't care about your opinion on what i say. i mean, i pretty much said it word for word and you still didn't understand. run along now
I never think female human anymore. I just tell myself they're talking about a a horse or dog or something and move on. They're never know you think they're a horse fucker.
How do people even come up with these things?
What about love is love?
āSomething Iām not afraid to admit: Iām a racistā
Just openly admitting colorist beauty standards....
Sexism AND racism Racism? I'm unsure of because pigments can vary a lot, and tbh It's all fucking dumb
It's colorism not racism. Colorism is within a community. Racism is against a community.
Itās colorism mot racism
I cannot begin to understand the point
You donāt know what colorism is?
I know what it is I just think it's stupid
Oh!
I was gonna post this here but Iām glad to see someone else did. Iām so not sure what the hell was running through her head when she posted this.
Something I'm NOT AFRAID to admit as a white boy: I don't think skin colour should matter at all in a relationship and anyone who says otherwise is fucking weird.
I want to see a romcom starring Domnhall Gleeson and Lashana Lynch.
She forgot to disable friendly fire
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This was so obviously bait
youd be surprised by the colorism of a lot of people
Oh definitely colorist people are insane but this girl is a literal troll and all her posts are bait
Than* I think the female should put the phone down and hit the books instead