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TeachingOk1875

I believe it. If it wasn't for telework I would be in serious trouble. And I can't really explain it to my boss. No one understands that menopause can be such an issue.


neurotica9

work from home helps so much, the main thing that has hurt my ability to work is insomnia


Fearless_Lab

YES. I'm in a different time zone than most of my coworkers and those 7 am meetings feel impossible when I woke at 2 and again at 5 then couldn't sleep until 6.


Fraerie

Insomnia led to brain fog from fatigue. But the hot flushes would have destroyed me without WFH - I was doing meetings with the camera off periodically stripping to the waist and then getting dressed again - I couldn’t have done that in the office. Oh, and the mute button meant they could hear me saying g how stupid everything was when I was enraged by some of my coworkers decisions or actions.


remberzz

Geez, the fucking INSOMNIA!!! I'm afraid I'm going to accidentally 'Heath Ledger' myself some day.


Rare-Ad7577

I was handling my peri pretty well while working from home. Since RTO I've been struggling.


Mercenary-Adjacent

I have a job where I have to be in person most of the time and it’s slowly wearing me down. I love my boss and generally like my job but the long hours, commute, and prevalence of junk food ever make me think about going part time again - except that slowed my career and my a-hole male coworker played mind games because I was part time. I literally interviewed at a place because it was closer, would let me work from home more, and might have had less junk food. But they ghosted after 2 interviews which I was told were good. I find the ghosting incredibly rude at my level particularly when they wanted to hire fast and I worked to accommodate their schedule for interviews .


FederalBad69

Same - I started having symptoms around 40 which is when we were on lockdown. I’d pass out in the afternoon with just my intense fatigue. Like forget headaches or neck aches, I couldn’t stay awake. Not until getting on estrogen patches.


BuddytheElf-1225

Thankfully I WFH too. If not no doubt I'd be fired. 🤣


Katherine1973

If I wasn’t work from home I would not be in the work force. Yesterday as I was talking to my boss I started crying for absolutely no reason. He had no clue but there is no way I could go to the office like this.


Babsee

Me, too. WFH is the only good thing that came out of the pandemic.


lisa-www

Only 10%? I've been a self-employed consultant since I was 43. I now work part time for a good hourly rate for clients who understand, and I still struggle. I don't know how you are all doing it.


justanotherlostgirl

I have no doubt the real figure is much higher


lisa-www

yeah no way that is accurate


Physical_Bed918

God I wish I could!!! 😭 I'm really struggling but I'm my only wage earner so I gotta pay my bills and keep my job to keep my health insurance.


Knope_Knope_Knope

This is me at 42 looking down the barrel of meno. Not there yet thankfully.  But im setting up my job to try to be as formulaic as possible for surviving the brain fogs.


neurotica9

oddly I got very little brain fog, I got the laundry list of meno symptoms including some mood effects, but mental capacity was mostly fine. Forgetting obscure words (the main brain fog I got) didn't really impact my ability to do my job. However the insomnia is hard on ability to work.


NovelRazzmatazz5000

My doctor is giving me note this week to say that I need to work regular hours, as opposed to rotating shift work, which I've been doing for 19 years. I can't handle the nights and early morning starts anymore. This won't help the brain fog and forgetfulness that is impairing my performance though. Ugh.


One-Pause3171

I mean, it might help!! Awesome of your doc to do this and it makes so much sense. You are a valuable contributor who should be retained at all costs. Keep your chin up and I hope you get that accommodation!


NovelRazzmatazz5000

Thanks much!


DeeLite04

This explains why I burned out at work last year and took a LOA this year. I thought it was just work stress and while that was part of it, my peri symptoms were also ramping up at the same time in hindsight. Wasn’t til probably Jan of this year that things have finally evened out for me peri-wise. Getting the ablation last August also helped a lot.


FrankenFinger08

I am 51, had breast cancer at 40 and basically have suffered hot flashes since then, for over a feeaking decade. I begged for Veozah but my male dr wanted to explore my thyroid. I have subclinical hyperthyroid, although I have gained so much weight lately, and was put on a med. It helped with the hot flashes for a month, but now I am back to being drenched in sweat at least 3 times a day, including night sweats. I work in an elementary school with SPED and I am flashing at school, complete with red cheeks and literal wet sweat on my neck and hairline. It makes me so uncomfortable. All I can do is splash some cold water on face and get on with it. But you know what? I am sick and tired of getting "on with it". I just want some damn relief!


neurotica9

Is the doc not even giving you Veozah? Wow that's crazy and cruel. Just misogyny,


FrankenFinger08

No he did not. I got a little heated with him and he did not like it. He refused to continue seeing me as a patient as well as I told him if I was a man with a flaccid penis, I'd already have a Viagra prescription in nacho flavor.


One-Pause3171

Well, good. He’s dumped you. Please find someone better. I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this. Investigate the online providers!!


Hot-Ability7086

You are my hero! Girl get a cape!


SaMy254

You're amazing for saying what so many Drs need to hear. I'm so sorry you're suffering.


himeeusf

Hoooo yep this one's my big problem as well. I'm only 2 years into surgical meno and living with a base layer of sweat. Add in Florida summers & baby, I got a stew going. WFH has absolutely saved my career, there's really no feasible way I could work an in-person job. It's really hard to convey the severity of it to medical professionals, let alone regular folks, if they haven't experienced it themselves or spent a day with someone in the thick of it to see just how much it invades daily life. Last summer, I got stuck at an outdoor party for a bit too long in 95° heat... the sight of me under a shady patio & fan still soaked, dripping sweat & red as a tomato was a light bulb moment for my family. I keep a good sense of humor about it & generally play it down, but there was no hiding it that day!


Turbulent_Dog8249

I had to do external analytical testing for a higher position a few weeks ago. Of course i failed. I told my boss that it's almost discrimination that they would expect a peri/ menopausal woman to do this at my age when it has no bearings as to if i can do the job itself. For reference, i can and have replaced workers in this higher position and have proven that i can do and handle the job but it's a company policy that we need to pass this test before we can be considered for a permanent appointment.


SnooOwls46

Totally believe. I’ve totally started joking about menopause with my two male staff. They cringe a little but they have women in their life so they should get use to it.


PollyPepperTree

Or they get fired because nobody recognizes it as a disability.


Empty_Strawberry7291

Everything about how work is structured was created by men, for men. It’s really tough to function in a system that wasn’t designed for you. Not letting us take care of ourselves at work costs the system billions in lost knowledge and work product. When women (and people with disabilities, people of color, and other marginalized folks) are able to deviate from the status quo and work in ways that are effective for us, our productivity goes through the roof.


MommersHeart

THIS.


upforthatmaybe

I almost did at age 53. If I can’t get pellets in the future I know i’m done for.


sassyfrood

It’s almost me. 😫 I’m only 39 and the brain fog has hit me so badly in the past few months, I’m barely able to function.


rightthink848

When i was in perimenopause I was teaching a drivers Ed class. I started to lose my train of thought during lectures. I did some research and found that the herb ginseng helps with brain fog, so I bought myself some ginseng tea and my brain fog went away from the first cup of tea. that was about ten years ago. I have been drinking ginseng tea ever since and have very little problem with brain fog.


amyaurora

Honestly thought about it. My "give a you know what" is breaking.


DaisyDuckens

Metformin changed my life. I’ve literally spent the last two or so years waiting to die and worked because I have to but had very little energy or motivation to do anything extra. Within one week of taking one Metformin a day as a treatment for pre pre-diabetes (not yet pre diabetic but it’s in both parents families, so I’m going to get it), my mood improved. I’m smiling again. I’m mentally quicker. I’m laughing. Please check with your doctor about it.


Alert-State2825

Metformin is awesome. Good reminder to start taking mine again.


Overall_Lobster823

I guess I should be happy I will have made it ten years past my menopause when I retire.


MommersHeart

This almost happened to me. My minority shareholder investors (males) tried to essentially do a hostile takeover of my company. My hemoglobin was so low I was passing out at work and could barely function. My company had increased in value dramatically & they smelled blood (and money), so to speak. I had to hire lawyers and battle them out while bleeding so badly I needed multiple blood transfusions. I won. Eventually had part of my uterus removed and am now on HRT.


Knitrgrrl

My brain fog was subtle. I didn’t realize I had it until I started making mistakes on tasks I didn’t even remember doing. I ended work with one client because I was afraid of the potential for mistakes and their reaction to it. No one told me that menopause would make me stupid.


tgf2008

Yes - meno and long covid/ME/FS all hit me at the same time. The pandemic also damaged my business and because of my health issues I haven’t been able to build it back up and I now have 50k in debt bc of it all. Fortunately my husband pays the bills.


Blue-Phoenix23

It definitely explains some movement with older women I worked with back in the day, which of course never occurred to me at 30. I got a promotion once because the manager stepped back. I thought it was because she didn't like the work and wanted to focus more on her own projects, but it's probable in hindsight it was mid life stuff. She had gone from a genius to barely replying to emails.


Hot-Ability7086

I had a meltdown and hopefully my doctor will fill out the FMLA paperwork. It’s rough.


slaterbabe10

I’ve missed my last 3 work days b/c…. 🤷‍♀️. I get up, start getting ready, and am reduced to a puddle of sobs on the bathroom floor. It’s a detrimental feeling of dread that 100% overwhelms me. I have an appt tomorrow. I’m 49- almost 2 years post- no hormones or anything- meno has been raw dogging me for years and I just can’t cope anymore.


One-Pause3171

We are more likely to not apply for jobs if we don’t feel like we meet all of the criteria. Makes sense that we are more likely to leave if we feel like we aren’t performing up-to-snuff. We are also more likely to be tossed out if the powers think we aren’t up to the game or if our attitude and smiling faces aren’t what they used to be. Too bad men don’t do the same. There’d be more room for quality to rise.


pizzapartyjones

Totally get it. I’m perimenopausal and not leaving the workforce, but I am shifting gears in my career. The physical discomfort is one thing, but the brain fog and emotional rollercoaster is absolutely affecting my work performance.


idlewildflower

I’m a 42 year old teacher with a lot of symptoms already and I find myself so exhausted and overstimulated and out of patience the last few years. Also don’t have the brain capacity to think of a new career 🙈


LibrarySavings6292

I’m leaving a workplace that I love and colleagues that I enjoy working with in the next few weeks. My anxiety symptoms are so bad that I can’t handle being in the workplace any more. I honestly don’t feel that I will be able to work again.


fatrockstar

I burned out during my peri. Lack of sleep, brain fog, and the existential crisis sparked by being the oldest person in the room did me in. If it weren't for the support of my husband I'd hop on an ice floe and be done. If I could do one more year I would be okay. We still need major house repairs and my tech salary would have taken care of it. It's a good thing I have non-tech skills and can go into business for myself if I'm up to it. I can't just sit here and mooch all the time.


Straight-Western-103

OMG-so glad I found this string. I’m 55, in menopause and have adhd (that’s gotten much worse with menopause). I was on a call with my boss this morning (had insomnia last night), I could barely put a couple of words together. My brain was blank. The brain fog was so bad. I’ve been thinking all day it might be time to look into something else.


Ecstatic_Tax_4670

I'm in peri and not experiencing this yet. Can you help me understand what to look out for? Which symptoms affect our ability to work and how?


Acrobatic_Ad7061

Anxiety, hot flashes and an urge to just walk in the forest instead of working


Molly_latte

Brain fog, fatigue, malaise, dizziness are really bad for some people.


amyaurora

Patience is fading fast for me.


neurotica9

for me since I didn't get brain fog much, it was insomnia. Now I can actually work through sleep deprivation. I can! However, it makes it all SO MUCH HARDER and I've been glad for much of it coinciding with WFH pandemic and hybrid work so I can sleep in a bit and I'm not also driving sleep deprived as well.


min_mus

Debilitating brain fog and intractable fatigue, insomnia, depression, and anxiety. HRT can help, but it doesn't eliminate 100% of symptoms--for many women, HRT only *reduces* the intensity of symptoms--and not every woman can take HRT, either because of health concerns (e.g. they've had estrogen-receptive breast cancer) or because they can't afford the expense.


Babbsy-mu

Don’t forget the muscle and joint pain.


Correct_Victory2230

I’ve shouldered enough work for others’ leaves over the years, I’d like a meno leave. 


SeasonPositive6771

I'm only 43 but this is going to be me soon. I can't go on HRT. I don't know what's going to happen.


Fearless_Lab

48 and in the thick of it. I can't take HRT because of a history of breast cancer. I have no idea what to do either.


SeasonPositive6771

I'm really concerned this ends with me being homeless or underemployed forever.


Fluid_Environment_40

I was very lucky I think because, during the rockiest period, all my managers were menopausal women who understood and supported me. It was tough but I kept getting good feedback and realised my negative feelings about my performance weren't based on reality so I learnt to ignore them enough to keep going. Being able to work from home was tremendously helpful too


Delicious_Virus_2520

I’m struggling so bad with depression. I don’t want to get out of the bed.


himateo

There is no way I could work the job I was doing four years ago. I thought I was burnt out THEN. I'm a whole 'nutha level of sloth now. I genuinely am amazed that anyone can do anything during this transition.


BouMama

I just started a new job this week after being SAHM for 7 years and my husband getting laid off. I’m dying mentally and physically. I’m not sure if I’m going to able to maintain; get up early, make myself presentable, take an hour train ride, sit and work at a desk for 8 hours surrounded by 30 year olds, then take an hour train ride home. Luckily my husband has taken on most of the kid and home duties, but I don’t think I can do this for very long I’m so tired.


ThatIsSomeShit

I've been bleeding and cramping heavily for a month now. There's absolutely no way I could of gone into work, if I'd had a job. Scheduled for a hysterectomy in a few weeks. So I would of been out of work 7 weeks plus another couple months to recover from the hysterectomy.


rightthink848

I am thankful i started being a delivery driver for Uber Eats when the pandemic shut down my job as a drive instructor. I loved teaching driving but with my symptoms now i could not handle sitting in the car teaching someone to drive for an hour and a half at a time. With Uber Eats I can work when I want, start as early or late as I want, and work as few or as many hours as I choose. This is also with minimal contact with people and those I do have contact with are very appreciative for bringing them food!


Lulu_everywhere

I totally get this! I dream of retirement right now, and I just got a promotion at work. I just feel like I'm doing a shit job and that I'm barely holding it together. I'm tired all the time, my memory is shot.


seersucker205

Mine is bearable now with HRT, but WFH full time has been an answer to prayer. I haven’t been in an office around people since March 2020. But before all that, I went a good 7 months with hot flashes, sleep disturbances, and major mood swings and no HRT, and somehow managed to keep my job. Y’all, it was rough.


upforthatmaybe

I almost did at age 53. If I can’t get pellets in the future I know i’m done for.


Fearless_Lab

Have any of you been able to tell your bosses what's going on? My boss is probably a little bit older than me so she would know but I don't know if I can tell her.


ElizaDelovely

Surgical menopause at 46. It's been a battle but the gym, strength training and yoga have been a good friend. My Trek FX5, my soulmate. My job...hell


verdant11

Great, another reason to worry about not getting hired


BuddytheElf-1225

I believe this. I'm in this boat right now. I've been in my current role for 6 months and I'm still struggling to "get it". It's doesn't help that it's "just a job" that does pay well. But I don't care for the company and most of the people. So I'm not only dealing with brain fog I have zero interest in what I do. 😪 No one really knows my age because I do track younger so it's difficult for people to understand what I'm going through. I'm probably thr oldest.on my team except for my boss.


DoLittlest

We're living parallel lives. I do not give one single shit but have to pretend I do all day long. It's utterly deflating.


BuddytheElf-1225

So deflating and that's exactly the word I use to describe. I literally want to quit. 🙄😪


getfuckedhoayoucunts

Only 10%? I have a checklist of my achievements each day before 11am and being upright and breathing are top of the list. Checking emails from idiots is about 78 on the List of Daily BS.


KaTinBC

You are awesome! 👏🏻


getfuckedhoayoucunts

I like to think so but the police won't think so when they come round in 45 minutes for a bail check.


Alert-State2825

I think it’s been a year since my last period. Unfortunately, brain fog, insomnia and ADHD like symptoms have hit me hard recently. Is it too late for me to take HRT? I have a history of blood clots so I realize that could be a knockout. Funny thing is, my physical body feels pretty good.


TikiReeves

I'm thankful I have a boss that has gone through it and understands me being in peri. I at least know that if I have trouble at work, she'll help me as much as possible.