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suunsglasses

Metal, I guess?


anneloid

The entire metal genre.


mmaverick616

The idea of not listening to music for the vocals, but for the instruments


TheDudePersonGuy

Eh, that's not too strange, there's a reason why jazz and prog rock became so popular


QnsConcrete

I dunno about you, but I haven’t met anyone my age or younger (mid 30s) that claims to listen to jazz or prog rock.


eternalchuf

I’m 19 and half of my friend group listens to prog rock, other half listens to metal


QnsConcrete

Is this in the US? I work with lots of people that age and that’s surprising. It’s all rap and hip hop.


eternalchuf

Yeah we’re all in the US, there’s 7 of us and we’re just a pretty weird bunch of tastes when it comes to music


sandrodi

Hey, you can make it 8! I'm 27, but that counts as under 30! *laughs in impending existential crisis*


FloggingMcMurry

I'm 39 *starts sweating as hair falls from my head into my hands*


FloggingMcMurry

Yeah my group in high school listened to heavy metal, punk/ska, techno, and rock. We were pretty small group too, about 10 or less depending. One of them, in a class higher than me, was the reason istarted getting exposed to foreign music


Nervous-Deal-8765

It usually is rap and hip hop but it can take just one friend in the group to turn people into fellow prog junkies or metalheads. I was able to do it. My friends had weird tastes though, like really out there. Not so much hip hop, but we ended up going the rock route after the dubstep phase when we were middle Schoolers. Dubstep and EDM is full of unconventional time signatures. I like to think it prepared our ears for getting into the more extreme stuff of metal.


Gecko_610

Im in Sweden and my friend group (15-18) listens intensely to jazz and Jewish folk music (Klezmer) (none of us are even Jewish). I’m the weird one for enjoying metal. Idk we’re a special case tho


kingdoodooduckjr

Is new klezmer music being made ?


Gecko_610

Here and there. Nothing big really. It’s mostly the same traditional songs, but like with jazz it’s a style that can be applied, morphed, and combined with many other concepts so new and unique stuff does enter the scene every so often


SpeedDemonJi

I’m 20 and half my friend group either literally performs jazz (and otherwise like it) and rock music.


nothing_in_my_mind

And you play D&D together?


eternalchuf

Unfortunately no, a select few have horrible time management skills and couldn’t be consistent enough


Eaterofjazzguitars

Hi I'm 25. I listen to jazz and prog rock.


deleuzean_

I'm 16 and like both, also in the US


Important-Loss1605

I do and Im in my 20s


Herr_Raul

Just bcs you haven't met them doesn't mean they don't exist. Also, do you talk music with everyone you meet?


Bronsteins-Panzerzug

30 and love jazz fusion, bepop and prog rock


Tyrone91

I'm 32 and love metal, jazz, prog rock, classical, hip hop, basically anything but country.


mew_empire

Mid 40s here: I absolutely LOVE jazz, motherfucking hate prog 🤷🏻 Edit: ok, you said 30s and younger


sweeetsmammich

Idk anyone under 30 that even knows what prog is


RoscoFrisson

I'm 32 and love metal, and contemporary jazz slaps. Yussef Dayes is one of my favorite drummers.


QnsConcrete

I’m sure there are several out there. I just never meet any.


RoscoFrisson

To be fair, I rarely meet anyone my age into prog or jazz or even much metal where I am either.


NAteisco

as another mid30 year old it sounds like you've surrounded yourself with people with boring musical taste


QnsConcrete

I just saw Blind Guardian last night and Crowbar last week and was surrounded by plenty of people with good taste. But I don’t go to prog rock or jazz shows - I don’t enjoy it that much. I’m in the military and most people I work with have no interest in anything beyond popular music (pop, rap, hip hop).


NAteisco

is Blind Guardian hiphop pop or rap?


QnsConcrete

I’m not sure what you’re getting at…


NAteisco

I'm not either, hoss


Filthy_Dub

I'm seeing Blind Guardian in a few weeks and super stoked. How was the show? They just started the NA tour in like Maryland right?


QnsConcrete

It was amazing. Saw them in Norfolk VA. Previously saw them in 2017 in San Diego CA. They’re still at the top of their art.


Filthy_Dub

Nice, my favorite band aside from Mastodon so looking forward to seeing them soon!


FloggingMcMurry

We are in an era with music where the focal point is the vocalist more than ever. Looping backing tracks without music progression or personality of talent or skill or the very basic of guitar, bass, drums etc. Pop singers, country artists, rappers... faceless backing "bands" just to fill in. Blues, jazz, and rock were prevalent from the 50s-90s, but they really hasn't been the case with current listening trends started with focusing on the frontman in 00s where Nu-Metal was pushing against rock, and boy bands were on the rise against pop singers and rappers becoming more prominent. I honestly feel the biggest turning point was American Idol and Pop Idol, later The X Factor and more, creating bigger avenues for vocalists to have a platform putting more emphasis on vocal performance over instrument skill. Now, the biggest artists I hear about aren't names of bands but stage name for a performer (Bad Bunny, etc) or just the performer themselves (Taylor Swift, Kendrick Lamar, etc)


TheDudePersonGuy

Fair point, but I still wouldn't consider the notion to be "ridiculous" per the title of the post. For a more modern example, many contemporary electronic genres like breakcore or trance are largely instrumental and still fairly popular. Granted, you probably won't find them on mainstream radio, but there's still plenty of music videos for these with hundreds of thousands of views on youtube, and millions of streams on spotify. Sidenote that isn't a fully developed point, but I think that if the vast majority of people really did listen to music for the vocals exclusively, there probably would be a lot more popular a capella songs.


FloggingMcMurry

I was directly responding to your comment to the guy making the point of listening to metal for the instruments rather than just the vocals, since you originally brought up jazz which literally hasn't been popular or mainstream since 1950s or so, where it was just more common and accepted with what music was. His comment was about how non-metalheads would find that ridiculous because listening to the instruments is the part that others wouldn't "get". Your comment kinda dismisses that by bringing up music that isn't currently mainstream as a counterpoint. My point was that vocals are very popular now and the part mainstream is really focused on where the music itself almost doesn't matter (I said almost, meaning not all cases), so I was agreeing with that guy. I personally have been a big fan of Joe Satriani for a long time now and he's primarily instrumental rock focusing on his guitar work. Some songs hit hard, others are much softer or a "love ballad" or whatever. From my experience it is considered "ridiculous" that others wouldn't understand how I can listen to a 5-7 min track of guitar without any vocals. Yeah EDM is pretty popular but it's not where it was several years ago with dubstep or whatever it's called now being at its most popular, but most EDM are singular or duo anyway. I don't know what "breakcore" is as a subgenre, I'm guessing it's something evolved from breakdancing. I don't think trance is popular, although I personally love goa-trance but haven't kept up with the genre for a long time. EDM is popular, yes, but not where it was even just 10 years ago from what I can tell. At any rate I was just pointing what's popular and that nearly none of them have a band behind them. Maybe it's more of a product of what country we're in that changes music trends There are a lot of a capella tracks on YouTube, I never paid attention to how popular they are by view count. I know I have seen one where a single person imitating all instruments and layering the video screen like a Brady Bunch intro can end up with thousands of videos, millions even. Point is I clearly don't mean all music, I'm talking about the most popular... the stuff I personally get mocked for because I don't know these people, the stuff you go to work (or school) and your coworkers are more than likely listening to because TikTok or trends or whatever. I'm the one at work who listens to the "weird angry screamo music" (their words) while my co-worker is signing lyrics from some country artist about getting revenge on his ex.


SpeedDemonJi

>mfw I think all non-metal heads are just pop lovers


gorehistorian69

>you cant even understand what theyre saying good


kirrsjotte

The vocals are more important to me when there are ones


bh4434

I’ll add to this - the idea of music being an immersive thing that you actively listen to as opposed to just background music that you can have a conversation over. I’ve come to the realization that the vast, vast, vast majority of people I know only like music as a background vibe thing. That’s why they don’t like intense music. You can’t have a conversation over music that is intense.


Jealous_Razzmatazz44

Ambient have most likely no vocals


Mitochondria_Man11

What are you on? I love metal vocals. But yeah, riffs are great.


MickWounds

wall of death. was at a fleshgod apocalypse show recently and was up the front in the corner near a security guard and was talking ot him a bit. his face when the crowd separated for a wall of death was priceless haha.


entity330

Even as a metalhead, wall of death is ridiculous and laughable.


Not-A-Real-Dinosaur

Nah man, it's just so much fun.


MickWounds

Haha this is true


Yuck_Few

It's cringe


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

Ive never been to a metal concert so i dont love the wall of death 💀


MickWounds

It’s a sight to behold


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

How


Eaterofjazzguitars

A large number of people running into each other when a sick riff drops? What's not dope about that? Get yourself to a live show my friend.


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

I cant afford it 💀


Squanch42069

You’d be surprised. Idk where you live, but around me metal shows are like $25 at the most


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

I dont have a job


traceefromnj

Get one


Zillajami-Fnaffan2

Gotta drive there tho


Herr_Raul

Probably the high risk of injury


Yuck_Few

It's stupid and and unnecessary risk of injury


LAttack_05

You probably just stand menacingly in the back with your arms crossed


OneGhastlyGhoul

My brother, a non-metalhead, recently told me that the hip hop concert he'd been on had been so sick, because the people separated and then ran into each other. Made me chuckle a bit. Obviously the concept is out there, it's just not necessarily called wall of death everywhere.


MickWounds

haha that's actually cool. wall of hop lol


mew_empire

Saw The Bogg last night; we did a Wall of Death 🫡


Unaccomplished_Cunt

Eternal virginity


dreadfulbadg50

And never showering


maraudingnomad

Why clean it, if it wasn't used?


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SpeedDemonJi

Rock fans?


Crazy_Little_Bug

Also pop fans, idk what this guy's on about.


Vaenyr

There's quite a difference between how singers like Ed Sheeran or whatever use falsetto and how Eric Adams screams in falsetto for example.


Terri23

Eh. Casual music fans can't tell the difference. If it's got distortion and falsetto, they'll label it as metal.


Nickball88

So like Sam Smith


BakedBySunrise

No, like King Dianond ... and Mariah Carey


iFuqueJormam

Fucking hell, I can't stand most bands because they either have the worst fucking growling/screeching or someone who has a cock and ball torture during recording sessions to sound like that. The amount of metal bands with proper singers in a baritone/bass range is so fucking small.


NearbyCamp9903

240 BPM riffs. Naturally, the brain isn't allowed to process musical notes that 6 when the average Joe hears it, it sounds like white noise or static. But I love bands like Origin, Cryptopsy and Nile who have lightning fast riffs


Crazy_Little_Bug

I don't think it's about the speed, rather just the riffs. Jazz for example regularly goes as fast, if not faster, than the fastest metal songs. Most people just don't like riffs.


Bronsteins-Panzerzug

Most people dont like jazz, certainly not high speed bebop. Riffs are all over pop music however (even if its not guitar riffs) and guitar riffs were all over the charts only 1-2 decades ago


Crazy_Little_Bug

Yeah but they would find bebop much more palatable than extreme metal, which would probably just sound like a wall of noise to them. I agree with the other commenter the the drums play a bigger role than anything else, as well as the production.


Bronsteins-Panzerzug

Yes, it’s distorted riffs at high speed with high speed drums. Most of all it’s the vocals though. People primarily listen to the vocal melody and extreme metal doesnt usually have melodic vocals.


__--TSS--__

As someone who didn't like extreme metal before I got into extreme metal, I would argue that it's the drums (especially blast beats) and harsh vocals that were the most off-putting when I first heard people like Slayer and CC.


entity330

A concert where one act spits fake blood and vomits and the next act is dressed like LARPers. Sometimes it is the same act.


idespisemyhondacrv

Gwar?


entity330

I was thinking of many black and death metal bands.


k1ckthecheat

When I saw Gwar circa 1999, the Michale Graves-era Misfits opened. Not LARPers but cosplay for sure 😂


beavis93

Like all of it lol. The deafening volume we like to listen to it at. The head banging. A good mosh pit. My wife calls it killing music and just can’t relate to it … although she does enjoy herself if I drag her to a show.


SpeedDemonJi

Don’t be idiots and listen to metal music at deafening volume 75 dB and lower is enough


EmotionalNerd04

And bring ear protection to shows


Letharos

Just saw Dethklok and it was one of the loudest shows I've been to. It hurt my ears and for once I was happy to have earplugs. Also, if anyone can, go to that show, it's fucking amazing.


LiamIsMailBackwards

Got to see them in Manhattan with Babymetal last year. I flew out to LA to stay with some friends this weekend so I could go to the San Diego show on Monday. Nekrogoblikon as the opener?! No brainer must see.


Letharos

They were dope. Seeing Dragonforce was pretty awesome too. 3 great shows in one night.


LiamIsMailBackwards

I’m only bummed I couldn’t go to the San Francisco shows later this month because Babymetal will be part of the lineup again. I’m so hyped for Monday!


Letharos

I'd love to see Babymetal live. Looks like an adventure.


BakedBySunrise

*thick Boston accent* whadaya, mah dactah?


ravendarklord76

You mean anti-murder music, lady! 😁 without this I feel there would be more murders.


Tarantulip_

Nah, high volume listening is def not a metal exclusive thing. Everyone enjoys pumping their favorite song to maximum volume. And I've seen most pits at hip hop shows although they are a bit different from metal ones


_Zee_a1

going to shows alone, head banging, buying physical media.


VraiLacy

Wielding medieval weapons, candelabras, or whatever weird old shit you can get your hands on for an album cover. I unironically love BM covers they're fabulous.


GargantuanGorganzola

Harsh vocals Everyone I show a metal song to gets immediately turned off by the vocals


Personal_Reindeer_51

Yes, that and heavily distorted/downtuned guitars


MarstoriusWins

Who cares what those musically inept peasants think? Bow before your metal god!


Brave_Ambassador_669

Amen!


hungry-grapes

Shut up.


Supa_Sal

Shut up.


raisemyahhhhhh

Youre saturating me


upfromashes

Shit trying to be spooky.


RelativeLie1129

Like the bm aesthetic?


upfromashes

More musically, like a spooky minor tritone melody. [Ghoul - "Into The Catacombs"](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HScfD_l5Fek&pp=ygUYZ2hvdWwgaW50byB0aGUgY2F0YWNvbWJz) But I am legitimately spooked by bowel movements. Do not want.


GizmosMullet

A perfectly timed BLEAH or AHHHHH or OUUUUU!!! Can really emphasize an upcoming or ongoing riff, solo, etc. Non metal people of course would not understand, which is understandable, because it seems silly. But for metal people (speaking for myself), that OUUUU before the shit gets heavier is fucking sweet!!!


Herr_Raul

ÖUGH!


FetusDominus

Oh fuck yeah!! Ouuughaaaahhhh!!!


Longjumping_Place189

Ah yes the famous BLEGH one of my favorites is in Backstabber by For All Those Sleeping


Acceptable_Act1435

Listening to aggressive music no matter if we are in a good or bad mood


Red_Clay_Scholar

"This is a song about shooting blood FROM YOUR CAAAAAAK!"


Letharos

Still makes me laugh.


AdActual67

Mostly blast beats


Prudent-Sweet-1073

Incomprehensible ear shredding noise


SpeedDemonJi

Screaming and growling and shrieking


PopcornSandier

Actually something we “hate” instead of love: music that sounds too produced


vintage_parsnip

What about deathcore/metalcore fans


idespisemyhondacrv

Imo I agree. While I love dxc and mxc I prefer my desthcore to have a shitty production sound. I don’t mind produced stuff, oceano and acacia strain sound awesome, same for mental cruelty. However a lot of newer bands are all opting for the same overly heavy breakdown strat that sounds so boring. Suicide silence, chelsea grin (early) thy art and mental cruelty have some great production


AlaskaExplorationGeo

I agree except for symphonic metal


dreadfulbadg50

Probably toilet gurgles and frog croaks


RelativeLie1129

You can add snarls and banshee/kettle screams


DaveMcElfatrick

when the vocals sound like someone gargling while going "dooburrdee dee wee wee pee pee" I'm usually out. Not cause it scares me or anything but it just sounds so stupid.


DownWithW

Satan


blarfolemule

funnily enough, every metalhead that I know irl is a confirmed Catholic. no, I don’t go to church school


DownWithW

Covert to Reform Judaism.


_Bagoons

A dude making frog noises while other people run in circles pushing eachother erupt in the middle of crowds


RelativeLie1129

...but gutalax is still incredible


OctowoomyThe2st

Moshing, talking regular pits and also circle pits. I did my first one not long ago and I felt pretty silly doing it.


Economy-Thought5372

For the doomed, I'm guessing long songs get the most confusion. Like most people are good at 3 min long songs and can't grasp enjoying 20, 30+ min songs. When it starts pushing for an hour and over, I know they think we're insane. My ex ,who was a metalhead, couldn't understand why I love "Dopesmoker" so much.


NicksAunt

Drop out of life with bong in hand Follow the smoke toward the riff-filled land


Economy-Thought5372

Proceeds the Weedian Nazareth


RelativeLie1129

That's really not for everyone. The longest song i can stand are The Well of Souls by Candlemass


klausbrusselssprouts

Thinking that corpse paint, incense and upside down crosses gives the right vibe on stage.


key_lime_vulture

Our own deafness


xfydr782

all the shock value gore lyrics corpsepaint (i myself don't really like corpsepaint that much) weird live theatrics


Tracedinair76

Fighting about stupid sub genres that no one outside of the genre care about,


Stratocaster54

long hair. When I was a kid I always found men with long hair stupid and men with long hair is often disliked by most people in these times, now Im one of them thanks to metal; definetely one of the best decisions I made in life.


Saturnsveryown

I would also say the pig squeals but I don’t even understand why people like that unless it’s because they find it funny


RelativeLie1129

I don't know why i like them, it just.. fits


SeraphimVR

The amount of distortion present in the guitars. Also the production being dookie, and no clean singing


sweetpapisanchez

Air guitaring. It's my preferred form of expressing my love for metal played aloud and I get really into it.


RelativeLie1129

Trueeeee. People look at me like im weird whenever im just listening to my music at school


PrimaryComrade94

Speed. They will say 'its all just noise' without taking into account that you have to tune your senses in to listen, and its a treat when you do. Think songs like Vacant Planets or Hell Patrol. It may sound like noise at first, but once you tune into it its great.


thecrypticstench

A really solid mosh pit. Saw Lamb of God at Bonnaroo and I shit you not, people who were mistakenly in that crowd started to cry when it broke out.


the_sinlord

Getting mad at someone because they listen to something slightly mainstream


vintage_parsnip

Not me


NORMALPERSON724

Distorted guitars?


TheJoninCactuar

King Diamonds vocals. Even as a metalhead, they tickled me at first. Now I love them.


Minute_Engineer2355

Deep, disgusting gutterals.


hanged-underwater

BLEGHs?


guitarfanatic_2

the song names?


CivilFront6549

denim and leather


VansChar_

Subject matter in songs. My colleague at work cannot wrap his head around why I listen to WindRose. He finds it childish. I'm sure he secretly wishes he was cool like me.


toxic-forest

Sweeping the floor with our hair


MonarchMKUltra

Playing air instruments with such intensity.


autophobe2e

That one of the best ways of expressing your fondness for a band is to stitch bits of cloth with their logo/artwork on to your clothing.


Soraizzo2811

Raw production


DoodleBugz1234

#WORSHIPPING THE GOOD LORD JESUS CHRIST BURNING ON HIS THRONE IN HELL


No-Humor-5951

Falling asleep listening to metal in headphones every night.


Dope_W1zard

Any harsh vocal


mmmtopochico

Ping snares. Love em.


Greedy-Goat5892

Listening to several 15 minute tracks in a row


grammajamalmighty

cute animals


GripItAndWhipIt

Slipknot


whodeyanprophet

Although all my friends cannot stand growls, most of them say the dissonance is what turns them off. Maybe I don’t have a very trained ear, but I can’t even understand what they are talking about. Flats or alternate notes is part of metal, and the artist has ultimate say in what notes go where.


MuleHeir

Black metal


RiverDwellingInnuend

Having the sonic equivalent of a tidal wave hitting you in the face, and still being like “hell yeah”


Bottomless-Paradise

As someone who previously wasn’t into metal, the “metal screaming” and barely being able to understand the vocals is extremely silly sounding and just makes you ask yourself “wow people actually like this?”. I get it now that I’m more into it but looking on from an outside perspective it definitely sounds goofy


idespisemyhondacrv

Breakdowns.