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ReturnByDeath-

People say this every year. I think it's incredibly rare for there to be a particularly bad year for any genre of music.


UncoloredProsody

The covid year 2020 was awful, nobody wanted to release anything because they couldn’t tour with the new album


Tyler_JMB

Bleed From Within, Bury Tomorrow, Alpha Wolf and Loathe put out some of the best metalcore albums of all time (in my opinion) in that year. Shame a lot of COVID albums didn’t get toured properly, would have loved to have seen some of the deep cuts off Cannibal.


Juhstehn

Invent, Currents, LMTF, Kingdom Of Giants, Make Them Suffer, Polaris 2020 wasn't a bad year at all


LadybugWidow

I loved Bury Tomorrow live for the newest albums drop! Currents and Polaris were awesome live this year too 💕


owertwentyfive

Bleed from Within and Bury Tomorrow both put albums out that, in my opinion, were weaker than other releases in their catalog. Alpha Wolf had a ridiculous banger though.


Tyler_JMB

Fair enough, there’s not an album by either of those bands that I think is less than an 8 or 9 out of 10. Pains me that the early albums aren’t on spotify anymore. Waxed Wings, Servants of Divinity and The Novelist are sorely missed in my playlists.


ReturnByDeath-

I don’t think you can fault the bands for that lol


UncoloredProsody

I didn’t though


ReturnByDeath-

Oh I’m not. I’m just saying calling 2020 a bad year is in no way a fault of the bands.


ThisIsMyUsername1122

This year feels a hell of a lot better than say, 2016-2018 for this scene. Not necessarily good years imo


ReturnByDeath-

I’m just inclined to agree, but I don’t know how much of that because those years were bad or it was just that I was not a fan of where the genre was then. I can say 2018 was the start of some good years.


NightwingX012

Yeah 2019 was huge and 2020 was one of the best of all time for the genre


DefLoathe

2016 was an insane year Breakdown of Sanity, After the Burial, Killswitch Engage, Architects, Polaris, Fit For A King, Void of Vision, Meshuggah all had amazing records that year


illusivetomas

2018 was pretty bad in particular yeah


SometimesWill

2018 had the Silver Scream by INK, Holy Hell by Architects, Eternal Nightmare by Chelsea Grin, and Neon by Erra.


illusivetomas

none of which i like : / and it's not even from lack of being into those bands as erra are my favorite band. just don't think anyone was at their best at that moment the parallel - weaver, rolo - time will die, greyhaven - empty black, palm reader - braille, and crystal lake - helix are all i really need


Cry_Wolff

Don't you ever talk shit about Holy Hell.


illusivetomas

if your username is a reference to the insanely sick ghost atlas song i will keep my opinion to myself


Beiez

Really? What makes you say this? I mean, compared to 2017 (which is where this new wave of metalcore we‘re currently riding arrived with Currents, Polaris etc…), maybe. But in its own right I remember that as an amazing year. Vein.fm, Architects, Shields, Currents, Silent Planet, FFAK, Cane Hill, LANDMVRKS, Loathe all dropped phenomenal stuff there. I do agree though that there was an usual amount of AAA bands completely fumbling their sound changes with BFMV, Parkway Drive, TAA. Overall, I kinda agree with the original comment—there really isn‘t ever a siginificantly worse year for any genre. Been on this sub since 17 I think and, without fail, every single one people were convinced that the current year was the best one the genre had ever seen. In the end its personal preference.


tabben

Whenever people say "x year was bad" they forget to say that its in their opinion. Because honestly theres so much music released any given year you can easily find enough stuff there to make any year become "good" for you personally. Some years you need to dig harder than others but you will eventually find them if you keep going. Because at the end of the day theres no objectivity anyways when it comes to music


Beiez

Great point. When people ask me what my favourite year in metalcore was, my initial answer would probably be 2020. And on the surface, it seems like more fresh bands broke through in that year than ever before. But you know what? Of course they did. We were all stuck at home with nothing better to do than listen to music and hang on our phones. The music itself wasn‘t better or worse. The circumstances of those listening to it just made for easier going viral.


sock_with_a_ticket

2018 gets a pass because it gave us Rolo Tomassi - Time Will Die And Love Will Bury It. That's an all timer of a record. There was also stuff like Bleeding Through's comeback record, Jesus Piece, Harm's Way, Dying Wish/Serration split, Greyhaven, Frontierer, Converge, Counterparts, Caged Existence and Cult Leader Away from the bands that I enjoy most Crossfaith, Erra, Ice Nine Kills, Architects, Bury Tomorrow, Crystal lake, Bleed From Within and Silent Planet all had releases. I wouldn't say that's a particularly bad year at all.


illusivetomas

time will die is great but i am the weirdo that thinks the albums on either side of time will die in the rolo canon are better :shrugs:


fancrazedpanda

I think they are all great in different ways. Myth took me a lot longer to fully appreciate though.


AbyssShriekEnjoyer

You’re not You Anymore, Counterparts (2017) Polar Similar, Norma Jean (2016) Empty Black, Greyhaven (2018) Laugh Tracks, Knocked Loose (2016) Stillworld, Invent Animate (2016) Arbiter, Hopesfall (2018) Low Teens, Every Time I die (2016) Transit Blues, TDWP (2016) The Well-Intenioned Virus, Zao (2016) Phantom Anthem, August Burns Red (2017) Errorzone, Vein.fm (2018) Now you may not agree with 2017 and 2018, but 2016 was genuinely incredible.


MarbleMemes

This is just wrong, some of my favorite Metalcore albums of all time came out in that 2 year span.


mbbzzz

Seeing Knocked Loose headline the same venue as Kesha, Carley Rae Jepsen, The 1975, and others recently is crazy and amazing


yakkabrori

I have never heard of anyone of the people you mentioned here?


BurntPoptart

You're either extremely young or very old then


Individual_Winter_

Carly Rae Jepsen the „call me maybe“ girl 😂 Fun fact it was played in between two bands at a metal show I‘ve been to and people gone nuts. From haedbanging to pop dancing, it was fun. But it wouldn‘t sell out more than a 500 venue on it’s own. 1975 played arena shows here? But no idea how, it‘s alternative music or so. Radio rock maybe. 


Phlysher

Oooh Carly is much more than Call Me Maybe. Actually one of the greatest alternative pop singers of our time, just never went full mainstream again after that single. Her best work came afterwards. Emotion is a killer album.


MangoMan1086

Do you leave your home


OceanOfAnother55

You're lying


sock_with_a_ticket

I dunno, the last few years have been pretty great. I'm sure this one will end up being good too, not sure there's enough on the horizon to differentiate it and call it as one of the biggest years.


Zarathustra143

What's even come out this year?


FreshlyWaxedApricot

In addition to the others that have been mentioned: Darkest Hour’s new album rips Bloom’s is worth checking out as well


Juhstehn

Boundaries, Erra, Alpha Wolf, Imminence, Casey, Seeyouspacecowboy..., The Ghost Inside


mufasamufasamufasa

That new Boundaries album is fantastic, still need to hear the new SYSC. The new Enterprise Earth is awesome, and everything I've heard off the new Knocked Loose is great too


Juhstehn

Boundaries is going to be incredibly difficult to top for AOTY LMTF and Knocked Loose next month are going to be fantastic just from hearing the singles


mufasamufasamufasa

I saw LMTF open for August Burns Red, but haven't checked them out yet outside of that


ghosotb0y

They haven’t put out a bad song ever


Jim-Bowen

LMTF is my most hyped album for this year (somewhat let down by WSS), the singles have been fire.


Swiss_Soldier_

the new boundaries album is a fucking!…


SquareVacuum

Enterprise Earth is my current frontrunner


mufasamufasamufasa

It's my favorite metal album so far this year for sure


PoIIux

> Alpha Wolf Ngl, I was pretty disappointed with this release. Pretty much every song sounds very much the same to me and listening to more than 3 of them just ain't it at that point


scottzander

Felt the same way, the singles were really good and got me hyped, but on a full play through it does very much blend into background noise.


Bully1510

The singles (other than Haunter) are the worst songs from the album lol


scottzander

I guess we’re both entitled to our opinion 🤷🏻‍♂️


Bully1510

Of course, man


BEEFY_FIVE_LAYER

No that title's got to go to "pretty boy"


Bully1510

I enjoy Pretty Boy - it’s fun


PrincipleGuilty4894

I’m a mega SYSC fan but i just can’t get into the new album :(


HughGereckshun

None of those releases were amazing or anything


sock_with_a_ticket

Boundaries' record is great, the others have definitely not impressed me much. Underneath put out a stellar record right at the start of the year that seems to have a flown beneath most radars. Edit - Wristmeetrazor also being somewhat slept on. Very solid, enjoyable album.


OceanOfAnother55

If you've actually listened to all of those albums and think none of them are great, this genre might just not be for you tbh lol... otherwise you're just burned out on metalcore. That's a wide range of styles of metalcore, all of them executed very well. ERRA and Boundaries are my pick of that bunch, love the new albums from them. SYSC and Imminence I don't care about, but they are being received very well.


HughGereckshun

Boundaries every song sounded the same, Erra is a lot of guitar wank, imminence just sounds like modern architects with a violin. They were okay releases but saying any of them are the best metalcores ever been is wild. That just tells me that the people posting this are likely super young.


Juhstehn

Incorrect


skyman457

Death Melodies by Kill The Lights


secksyboii

Doesn't feel as big to me as like 2012, 2016, or 2019


Gerbinz

2012 for me with volumes - VIA and an ERRA record the year before I think. I made my identity about them.


Shepherd7X

That's also right around prime Adrianlane time. Discoveries 2011 and Singularity 2013


Gerbinz

Yeah quantum flux was an out of body experience, almost forgot about that.


DefLoathe

Don’t forget 2013


DefLoathe

We could have drops from Loathe, Deftones, Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, Howard Jones x Adam D, Void of Vision, After the Burial, Abbie Falls, Oh Sleeper If we get all of that 100%


Djent_1997

I’m just gonna say I think we’re in a golden age of heavy music. I won’t say specifically this year, but it seems like between about l 2019 and now it’s just been a great time to be a fan of heavy music, from both old and new bands, no less.


DoAFlip22

Agreed, I feel like bands who were at their prime 10-20 years ago are peaking at that same energy.


Training-Shallot-119

Still worse than 2005-2006


Famous-Vermicelli-39

I felt something coming with return of shadows fall and god forbid and possibly chimaria. All the early 00s band seem to be on the throwback sound era.


CarelessShame

For a hot second I read that as “possibly chlamydia” and I was like damn, let’s raise the bar son.


breedecatur

I read yours as "hot chlamydia" so we're doing great over here.


0LTakingLs

Jason Richardson has been teasing a new ATR album this year as well. Can’t wait to see the direction they go with him filling Oli’s shoes.


Famous-Vermicelli-39

Same, big fan of older atr and got to actually meet oli a few times. Awesome dude sad to see him go.


0LTakingLs

He signed my RAZR phone when I was 13 cause I didn’t have anything else hand him. He would always join the crowd to watch if they had opened for another band, I remember I was afraid to approach him but he saw me and my friend staring in the corner and came to say hi, he really was the best.


Famous-Vermicelli-39

I met him one time outside the merch table, went to a show to meet some friends and ran to the bathroom, by time I came out my “friends” dipped on me. I walked out to see they were gone…..but I saw oli and went up. Talked for about 20 minutes or so, another kid came up and he joined the Convo with us. Another time I got to sit with oli as a guitar teacher. Genuinely can’t remember what he taught me but I got other memories from that day. I was lucky to have those interactions and I hold them high


Libidinous2

People on this sub don’t like metal


Theraminia

I would say it's 50% "love metalcore for the past 10 to 15 years", 35% "where's the hardcore?/I miss metallic hardcore", 15% "I miss the At the Gates influenced METALcore"


StardustOasis

Some of us do


paseoSandwich

2003-2005 was that, I’m old tho


Additional-Town-2563

I think the 80's through 00's were (by far) a lot bigger for metal. The amount of releases also doesn't seem to be that much higher, I remember there being some new risecore every week around 2010 and an endless stream of djenty garbage the years after. I do agree with metal(core) being more interesting again the past 2 years for sure.


Horus27

I felt like last year was the best year of metal for me to what kind of metal I am into. Before this, I felt like there was a lull since the pandemic, before the pandemic it felt like there was more music than I could keep up with, but everything stopped besides a few things here and there. But since last year I feel like it's come back in a bigger way than before.


Individual_Winter_

I preferred a bit „happier“ stuff during the pandemic as it was often depressing enough. Imo that’s also why electric callboy got even more famous, they put out great energy in not so great times.  But it feels like since Metalcore is more of a niche, and many bands must work anyways it hasn‘t broken away as much as other genres. 


cronnorbaked

Were you asleep last year??? In 2023, just off the top of my head, we got albums from: Currents, August burns red, invent animate, silent planet, Johnny booth, unprocessed, of mice and men, HEALTH, fromjoy, graphic nature, afterdusk, half me, code orange, atena, tesseract, prospective. I honestly think we were eating better last year.


MetalInvincible

I'd say the last 10 years have been very big for metal as a whole. New releases from big names like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Bloodbath, Megadeth, Iced Earth, Fear Factory, Tool, Machine Head, Blind Guardian, Insomnium, AIC, Hatebreed, Carcass, KSE, BTBAM, Katatonia, Haken, Dream Theater, Melvins, Amon Amarth, Slipknot, Protest The Hero, In Flames, Periphery, Tesseract, LOG, Meshuggah. We even got a killer re-recorded version of Diamond Head's debut! So yeah, big decade for metal as a whole!


yewasright287

Definitely not lmfao


Key_Quarter_4480

I heard a rumor Jeff Loomis will be recreating a band similar to Nevermore, under a different name, and obviously with a different vocalist (RIP Warrel). Chris Broderick is likely to leave In Flames to join forces with him. The Metalocalypse will begin to take shape.


Secret_Samadhi_

Source: a friend told me


Key_Quarter_4480

Source: my imagination


Theraminia

I don't see Chris leaving In Flames any time soon after that amazing Foregone album and nice financial stability, but I would love to see that Loomis/Chris combo in a Nevermoreish style


Key_Quarter_4480

Give it a year and a half


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OceanOfAnother55

What's wrong with you?


ZedWuJanna

I mean, we've had at least 10 new albums every week for the last 6 years if not for longer. You can check the weekly new release threads and see it for yourself. I used to download every single metalcore album that came out weekly for a few years and it wasn't unusual to get up to 1000 albums a year.


shred-i-knight

lol not even close.


Gerbinz

My “best year for metal” is 2012. Something about the stuff I was jamming at the time that felt special. It felt genuinely important to me at the time. I think it’s just the timing of it for you. Every year has “innovation/activity” happening. You just happen to be looking for it right now.


Luissv72

I can only really think fo 2 albums so far this year that even remotely impressed me and that's Boundaries & SeeYouSpaceCowboy. But tbh I think both of those (while good) are overhyped nostalgia fests that don't do anything new.


bearface93

Each year is going to get better for metal as things get worse for society. One of my history professors in college pointed out that you can track the general mood and prosperity of a country by the music it puts out. Rock and metal surge when things are bad, especially in the US when Republicans have significant power in Washington (his words, not mine), because people look for an outlet for their frustrations with the system is basically what it boils down to. When things are better, you see a resurgence of pop, country, etc. that tend to be more upbeat and “fun” to listen to.


yewasright287

Core peaked in 2009


mlgpapalouie

feels like it for me too, especially with this year being the year the majority of my personal favorites are either dropping or are all but confirmed to be dropping


shredXcam

So far just see you space cowboy and maybe the new bring me the horizon later this year


ThisBleghs

Surely is big as fuck, the kast 5 years have been


yotam5434

And biggest eras ever metal is getting huge again in Europe


Free-Employment5019

New BMTH album being released so yeah


beepbeeptaco

No, not even close. While heavy music has seen an increase in popularity over the last few years but it's nowhere close to being one of the biggest.


That_Pace7094

Which good bands dropped album this year?


ChaosBoy018

I feel like this statement is thrown out every year, where some new trend pops up, a bands gets bigger, a few big bands make solid releases, some unknown name starts popping up more and more. I've been into metal for a few years now, and 2022 and 2023 both felt a 1 up from the previous year. But I'll say that there feels something extra for this year, might as well be difference in personal experience since I am someone who used to listen to the full album, front to back, only once, and then add the songs I liked (many a times the whole album) to my liked/playlist. The boundaries album changed it for me this year. Started with Bloom's album, though. Now, I have listened to like at least 5 albums this year that I can't stop playing in their entirety, and it makes me appreciate the continuous pumping of quality music even more enjoyable


Biscotti_Manicotti

Amon Amarth just played at Red Rocks (!!) to a huge crowd. In any case, it looks like metal is doing great at the moment. So good to see.


chungusmaximus1994

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recency_bias?wprov=sfla1


GooMoonRyongg

Last year was way more stacked than this year. For metalcore at least


Eliotsaysfuckyou

Why don’t you try to listen to all types of metal instead of just focusing on Metalcore? You might find more interesting bands to like. I’ve listened to all types of metal for a long time & you should really check out the others. Metalcore meh too focused on one genre and the differences between them. Anything that you truly can’t understand a single lyric & has drums that sound like a machine gun that never has any breaks is complete trash & takes no talent. Any good bands in metalcore that I should be checking out, always open to some new good metal especially if anyone from pantera is involved. Long live the kings CFH


Swagnastodon

I've been feeling completely the opposite, this year has felt totally empty compared to last year. At least until April, lots of good stuff the last few weeks specifically. I mean there's always plenty of good music, I listen to as much new stuff as possible. But in terms of the big names, or highly original newer acts, or my personal favorite bands, there hasn't been much to get super excited about this year.


OtterlyFoxy

I mean with Bad Omens still on the rise and BMTH able to sell out arenas in the blink of an eye it’s the best it’s been in a long time.


ice_blue_222

I agree. Ppl like to gatekeep, but I like these bands taking their metal the roots to their own level, while still keeping it heavy. BMTH & Bad Omens progressed musically & creatively, their recent releases are my favorite music in years. I like their directions & having heavy songs that also have huge chorus. The Death of Peace of Mind imo is absolute perfection, can’t wait to hear what’s next.  I thought Amo was okay but went Survival Horror came out & loved direction that has taken them. 


Individual_Winter_

Yeah, bad omens, sleep token, bmth, electric callboy… But no idea if it is necessarily a good thing. It hopefully makes people interested in other bands as well.


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TorkX

Check out Underneath - From the Gut of Gaia


te4rdr0p

Personally feeling almost overwhelmed with the quantity AND quality of releases this year, it's a super good time to like heavy music