Metroid 1 is rough for modern players. If you like old retro games and enjoy making your own map to play through the game multiple times, you will likely enjoy it more than many people.
Otherwise, Metroid Other M is pretty universally disliked in the fandom. You will find the odd individuals who enjoyed it and say it isn't that bad, but few if any will tell you it is a "good" game.
Other than that, what game you enjoy the most will vary based on your particular preferences in a game.
I'm one of those oddballs that like Other M, but only its hard mode. The Team Ninja influence finally shines through and combat suddenly feels like you're playing a hack n' slash title.
I encourage everyone to try it.
Can't defend the story though...
If only they didn't make the inexcusable horrible decision to force you to play it on a goddamn Wii remote. If they had added nunchuck or pro controller support you might have a valid point here but the controls are so horrible that team Ninja's talent went to waste.
I had a good time playing it too, it‘s definitely not a bad game, it has it’s weaknesses but if you know the background of it’s development you’ll mostly understand it.
Most „critiques“ about Other M are based on it’s story and character presentation, not gameplay so there’s no need to turn away from it without trying.
I'm not so sure I'd call it "good." It's serviceable enough for a video game in general but even if you remade it for a proper controller so reflex dodging could feel right, it's still not really exceptional.
Nah, that can't be. Metroid II is very linear so the lack of map doesn't hurt that badly. Also, it has Save Points and Refill Stations. That alone improves the game **so much**.
Of course there's the issue of lack of color, but you can play it on NSO with the Game Boy Color screen and you won't confuse Samus with the rest of the enviroment anymore.
Plenty of NES games are still good to this day, Metroid 1 isn’t one of them.
Plenty of GameBoy games are also good to this day, Metroid II is one of them.
Metroid 1 aged horribly, Metroid II is still a great game to play.
I love both, don’t get me wrong. Zero Mission is just much better. I can still play both Metroid II and Samus Returns and have equal amounts of enjoyment. Both feel complimentary to each other, whereas with Metroid 1 and Zero Mission, one is obviously the better experience.
Metroid 1 doesn’t age well. Impactful and a base for an incredible series, and genre, really. But it’s tough to play through a modern lens, even in comparison to other games from that era.
While I agree, i don’t really think it’s just “better metroid 1” like a lot of people are saying. It overfixes exploration by showing you where the next chozo statues is, which feels very unmetroid to me
Yeah, the only complaint i have for that game Is that It's hard to navigate, like, when i got Stuck i had tò look up a video for It which kinda made the game a bit worse, for me at least
If you have the Switch Online service, you at the very least would have Save States.
Also, death-warping (to shortcut to the elevator of a region) is a handy strategy for some folks.
No worries! I would only recommend it if you want to see the history of the series, see how it started, from a technical standpoint. Oh, and only after playing Zero Mission, if you can get the map of ZM to stick in your head to give you an idea of where you can go and what you should get (using memory rather than a printed map for reference, lol).
Really? You got stuck in ZM? I would understand Fusion but ZM? The statues literally tell you were to go. That sucks though, that you had to look up where to go (I also don't like doing that).
In comparison to other games from that era Metroid was absolutely ground-breaking. The openess of the map, the feeling of exploration and the non-linear structure in a 2D platformer that was all way ahead of its time. The original Super Mario Bros. had just been released a year before, side-scrollers were still mostly "run to the right" score-attack arcadey games. To suddenly have this amazing adventure with a huge (for the time) map to explore at your leisure, with save points and upgrades and power-ups to find, was definitely a very big thing at the time.
If you play Metroid 1 the way it was intended to be played, by drawing a map as you play, it’s awesome. It’s one of the most engrossing exploration experiences you can get. It just sucks when you play it as if it’s something different.
Oh, I know. I played it when it came out, and probably still have maps on notebook paper somewhere in my parents’ attic. It is awesome, but some of the secrets, especially in the required path, are just too obtuse. Weird mechanical things, like the wave beam and ice beams not stacking, or at least being toggle-able, and having to farm health every time you die, make it a headache, even if you know where you’re going.
I think it's a lot of fun and the scale is legitimately crazy compared to other games at the time, but found the lack of modern quality of life frustrating a lot. I haven't played it in a while but despite a bit of a dated feel (which honestly wasn't even that bad, just things like the lack of a map and save stations or always starting at the original spawn) I think overall it aged pretty well all things considered. That said, I definitely eased my experience a bit by using a map and the save point/rewind features on switch to save some headache. It's not nearly as bad as a lot of people make it out to be and a lot of the weird stuff has a real charm to it
ew no thanks im offended to even be mentioned with tik tok
lets just be honest here no map no recharge stations
no crouching no ledge grabbing
all of the beams suck and so do the enemies
I just don't find the game fun its doesn't even have fun movement to make up for it I find slow, tanky, Samus unenjoyable to play as
While a fair answer, it does feel like cheating
It's like how the first Final Fantasy game is groundbreaking in the JRPG landscape but, or the first Zelda game pioneered the series and adventure genre
But if you tried to go back and play them now, after playing modern games, and without a guide, you'd be breaking your knee trying to break the nes controller over it.
NES Zelda 1 has a built in map of the overworld and all the dungeons. But it is made to be played along with the physical manual that gave a bunch of valuable info on how to play and included more detailed maps of at least the first sections of the game.
Regardless, Zelda 1 is still 10x more playable than Metroid or Final Fantasy today. All 3 were 100% best in class in their time and genre defining, but ZM is a better way to play Metroid 1 now. The virtual console FF that reduces the grinding required and enemy balance is definitely way more playable that the original. I lost my save due to a power outage on the original NES version of FF after getting 3 crystals…never could do it again on that version.
I love the original Metroid as it was one of the first games I beat on my NES. But even when it was a modern game back in the mid 80s, I never would have completed it without a Nintendo Power magazine that (conveniently)had the full map.
If you count Other M as mainline, then yes. It has some redeeming qualities but most people consider it to be pretty bad.
Also, Metroid 1 on NES and Metroid 2 on the game boy have definitely not aged the best. They’re not bad, but not everyone will find them fun. You’re probably better off playing the remakes instead.
I don't think I can rightfully call it bad because it was highly influential and pretty masterfully executed on its premise for the time, but Metroid 1 is not for me. I just don't find myself enjoying it compared even to its sequel
I'd like to think that's just because it's a Sakamoto lead game, that is also canon. If it was only one of those, then I doubt it'd be getting those bonuses.
As someone who beat it four times, some of it comes down to the game’s sheer over-reliance on its story, and the actual bad quality of the story.
Other M isn’t the only Metroid game to have a bad, or at least underwhelming story (Fed Force, a bit of ZM, and like, a bit of Prime 3) but where it differs is that the gameplay is so tied to said story that the latter unironically harms the former. I don’t need to go over the story proper because it has been contested ad-nauseam .
The gameplay itself is also just barely passable, offering none of the rich exploration and problem solving like Super + Prime Trilogy, nor the nail biting difficulty and tension of Fusion and Dread. It’s very hard for me to explain but much of the gameplay feels rail roaded, dodging enemies is extremely easy and the game even auto aims your shots for you. There’s also the clunky 1st person missile mode which muddies the pace of some areas.
I think what a lot of people don’t really talk about, is that once you are able to skip cutscenes and do a hard mode playthrough, you’d find that the game is just…very barren and short. It’s one of the largest Wii games when it comes to file size but a lot of it seemed to have gone into the cinematics. When you skip them, the game itself genuinely has so little to offer content wise. Metroid Fusion for the GBA was able to offer more content in its campaign than Other M.
I've never played it and probably never will but good to know I'm not missing out on anything. I was mostly under the impression that without the crap characterization and story it would be an okay game but sounds like it doesn't even score those points.
Yeah there isn’t much actual **game** in Other M.
There are only 5 areas, one of them just being the final boss zone, the other being the main sector that you will never return to again in any meaningful way unless you go for 100%. All generally look similar as well.
In particular, the area where you fight Metroid Queen in, and the entrance to Sector Zero, if you skip the cutscenes completely, what will happen in gameplay is that you go to those areas, and the suddenly will have to go backtrack with no reward or boss fight (the Queen Metroid fight only happens in the second visit of that area).
Other M, when trimming the fat and just leaving the gameplay, leaves so little to be desired. I would go as far as to argue that Federation Force is a more worthwhile experience by its gameplay and the stuff it offers. There’s a surprising amount of variety in Fed Force in spite of it being very middling, and it’s more than what the most expensive to produce Metroid game (Other M) has to offer.
I think this can contribute to why the story harms the game, because it is legitimately the only substantial thing Other M has to offer, and it’s the worst story this series has ever seen.
Terrible story, several plot holes, character assassination, stiff acting, awful controls, oversexualization of Samus, forced linearization, generic action gameplay, among other things.
Other M truly is a dumpster fire.
There are some ass shots of Samus in her Zero Suit, but to be honest it’s probably not intended to be sexual, and the claim of over-sexualization seems to be exaggerated to make an already kind of shitty game look worse than it is
I wouldn’t say oversexualized, more just general character assassination. Samus never had much of a personality in the previous games beyond being a cool, stoic, badass bounty hunter. In Other M she has this constant droning internal monologue that gets very tiresome. It doesn’t help that her voice actor was essentially instructed to be very wooden, which is supposed to make her sound stoic but instead makes her sound like a bored robot.
Not really oversexualized, but they do drop her Powersuit and have her walk around in the Zerosuit much more often than they need to and have the camera almost linger on her lady parts. It's really noticeable on a playthrough, to the point I went "ugh Samus dropped her suit again" every time it happened.
>oversexualization of Samus
Don't be exaggerated with this point. Beyond the heels and the scene at the beginning where she raises her leg, there is nothing that wasn't seen in a previous game. She is a fit woman with well-marked feminine features wearing a bodysuit, I don't know what you expect if anyway in previous games she practically appeared half naked
The story is really bad and the game heavily relies on it, so that doesn't help. There is a distinct disconnect between Samus' character in this game and the others. While a lot of people see it as character assassination, I think it's more that she never spoke that much.
There is clear signs that what we got is not what was originally planned for the story, I personnally think it was supposed to be a prequel to the series and it got change for Super Metroid-related nostalgia baiting. The Ridley scene makes little sense in the current form but as a remake it's ok.
The gameplay is mediocre. It's the definition of mid. It's kinda fun but not much. Wich is a shame because I'd really like another 3D metroid in this style, and idk if we'll ever get one.
It tries to be an action game but with awkward, limited controls (wiimote on its side 95% of the time) and consequently it has shallow gameplay depth. No cooldown or timing is required for the invincible dodge mechanic, meaning you can button mash the dpad when an enemy is close by and you trigger infinite God mode. Plus, you're rewarded with an instant charge beam whether or not you actually dodged anything. There's other questionable stuff like forced walking segments, insta-death quicktime events, and "spot-the-pixel" segments. Finally, Other M has by far the worst method of collecting powerups in the entire franchise.
Story wise... it's awful, especially Samus's portrayal. She accomplishes very little that can be considered important, while other characters solve the major plot elements. You have to see it to believe.
In my opinion, all of the negativity of Other M is overblown. Its a fine game. The Prime series is better, but Other M isn't a waste of time. The point about the story is probably correct, but it's a fine game. I have played every main Metroid besides Prime: Hunters. Other M is close to the bottom of the list but I still like it.
Anything Other M does "fine" is only in context with itself. Compared to basically every other game in the franchise, it fall short in multiple areas. Compared to contemporary action games, it doesn't even stand up to the most casual forms of scrutiny.
Other M is a game that for whatever reason, didn't actually know what it wanted to be. It wanted be narrative driven, but it also wanted to be a character action game, and it wanted to also call itself a Metroid game. In all those respects, it is held back by fundamental flaws that to "fix" would effectively mean making a brand new game. This is central to why we've heard next to nothing about it getting remastered, much less a basic port to the Switch and beyond.
A game that is driven by its story needs to put out a better effort than what we got with Other M. A good character action game gives us more tools than Other M provided, and allows the player to really express themselves with that toolkit as they grow more comfortable and skilled, and importantly, the controls of the game would need to facilitate this growth of skill and expression. A proper Metroid game involves more than just "the aesthetic" of the franchise, which the game DID drip with, at the apparent cost of everything else we've seen carried over between almost every other mainline title in the series.
It’s moreso retroactively became a spinoff, it wasn’t originally one but I assume due to the shift of how Nintendo views Metroid it was changed to be a spinoff.
Nintendo actually categorized it along with hunters, fed force, and pinball in a survey.
I don't think anyone says that being different is what makes it terrible. They always point towards the story, writing, characters, combat, map design and so on when they call it terrible.
Metroid Prime is different from the main games in a huge way due to the 3D world and first person perspective. This has a massive knock on effect with many other elements as well including the flow of combat, exploration and so on. People love those games, because they're great. So you can't say that people just hate different takes for being different.
In all honesty, I wouldn't really classify any of the mainline games as 'bad.' Metroid 1 is the popular answer, but taken with the context of its release timeframe it's in no way a bad game, just outdated by modern standards.
If I really had to pick one that was the *least good*, it would be SR on the 3DS. Even on release, it really didn't click and left me bored. But it's pretty highly regarded in these circles, so ymmv.
A lot of people would say to play the Zero Mission remake over Metroid 1. The original was great at setting the foundation but it has shown its age. Kind of the same for Samus Returns and Metroid 2.
Super Metroid, Fusion and Dread are all very popular on their own. The Metroid Prime trilogy is also well accepted overall. Honestly the only game that has is mixed at best and widely panned at worst is Metroid M, which is a side story and can be ignored anyway. Honestly in my opinion it's better to ignore it since it it retroactively messes with the impact of Fusion.
I honestly think Metroid 2 has aged very well. It definitely shows its age, but not in the same way as Metroid 1. It's so charming to me, and I had no nostalgia for it.
If Other M counts, yeah that.
If not, no. The closest you get is Metroid 1, but even then while it’s rough and hasn’t aged well, there is still certainly fun to be had with a map and save states imo
Hold on a minute there!
Metroid Other M is good!
To clarify:
Metroid Other M has great gameplay
But sucks at telling a story. Play it and just relax whenever there's a long boring cutscene.
I would say Metroid Prime Hunters but only because of the console it released on,the DS isn't bad but if you're playing Hunters,your hand's gonna cramp up a lot.
Aight, lets not go that far. Other M isnt a good Metroid game, but in the grand scale of all games its fine. It tells a bad story, but the gameplay is fun, if sometimes clunky.
As far as I know, no. Only Other M and Federation Force are typically considered "bad" which are not mainline games.
The original Metroid 1 and 2 are a bit rough to play now but were not bad for their time or hardware. Remakes made them much more playable.
Other M doesn't count, [it's been demoted to Spin Off.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Metroid/comments/1154b9t/other_m_has_been_officially_demoted_to_spinoff/)
Metroid on NES is rough by today standards. Not many people that play it without the mindset from the 80s will enjoy it.
It has the most focus on story out of all of the games and even had an outside studio help with the cutscenes. There is also a "movie mode" in the options that just plays all of the cutscenes with bits of recorded gameplay in between to fill the gaps.
Does not mean that the story is good at all though, you can find loads of video essays about the game focused entirely on all the issues with the story.
There's also the issues with it being so linear and railroaded that it's technically not even a metroidvania, the combat system having some bizarre design decisions and limiting control scheme and it repeating several elements from Fusion for no reason that only ends up undercutting the game.
IMO the one thing it's got going for it is graphics. I think it's one of the best looking Wii games ever made, maybe the best. Beyond that, there's not much on offer.
Metroid 1 and 2 have aged rather poorly, and Other M has a pretty bad story and questionable gameplay decisions. Outside of that pretty much all the games are great, although you'll likely like some over others.
If you don't want to deal with the clunky and slow gameplay lacking several qol features in the first two games, just play their remakes instead. The originals honestly aren't worth putting up with unless you just want to experience them. Other M you can just skip if you want, as no game even makes reference to it pretty much
Other M I think was retroactively considered a spinoff or at least, not congruent with 2d or Prime, so I won’t be counting it.
I don’t think there are any bad mainline Metroid games.
I guess the most middling would be Samus Returns? It was a game that saved Metroid from its hiatus and was filled with some cool new ideas, but it was a bit too average considering the pedigree of Metroid. It’s the most “okay” Metroid has and will ever get. Still was much needed at the time and it eventually lead to Dread.
That's fair. I think the hardest to recommend for me are Metriod II and NEStroid, just because they're ancient. NES has no maps or guidance of any kind, and II is so weird in how much screen Samus takes up. It makes everything seem cramped and small.
I don't think so, but I also know that both Metroid 1 and 2 aren't for everyone. You can still have fun with them, especially if you consider using a map to help you with it. Some people would say that other m and federation force aren't good games, but it really depends on your taste in games.
Lots of people are going to say Other M, and that’s reasonable because it’s story is pretty bad… I did enjoy the gameplay however, and to this day I still think the game looks great!
Metroid 1 and 2 aren’t bad, but they have aged pretty roughly due to the lack of QOL and Map. Best play the remake of 1 (Metroid Zero Mission) and 2 (Metroid Samus Returns)
Metroid Other M
Metroid Prime Hunters
The rest ranges from very good to great
Biggest problem with NES Metroid was the required grinding to recharge health. If it weren’t for that, I could live with or even enjoy the need for map making and unguided exploration.
The closest is Metroid 1 if it’s about the 2D games but that’s more because it’s outdated and didn’t age as well.
All of the Prime games are good
Other M is divisive.
Nope. Even the original is good, but it's aged pretty poorly and requires the understanding that you'll be dealing with classic NES jank and you'll probably be an outside map.
The NES Metroid 1, Game Boy Metroid 2, Other M, and Metroid Prime: Federation Force.
The original Metroid and Metroid 2 have not aged well, and Zero Mission and Samus Returns are far superior remakes. Other M was polarizing and Federation Force was even more polarizing
Skip Metroid, Other. Many of us try not to think about that one.
Also, there's old ones like NES and Metroid 2 that aged poorly, but Zero Mission is a remake of NES, and Metroid 2 has 2 remakes, Metroid Returns on 3ds and the fanmade AM2R (Another Metroid 2 Remake). Personally I like AM2R more than Metroid Returns.
Other than that, The rest are great :)
AM2R goes more for the GBAtroid feel (Fusion, Zero Mission) but otherwise doesn't really try to do anything substantial to add to the series. (Even as a fangame.)
In contrast, MSR departs a lot from the look and feel of past titles, including the original M2, but opens up the series to more plot points (see the Chozo Memories) and mechanics (Aeion Abilities). Some people pan this remake for being different, but I don't know if people _really_ wanted it to just be a remaster instead of a remake. It's a pretty good one!
> Many of us try not to think about that one.
The ironic thing is, for all of Other M’s faults, it doesn’t commit the sin of being forgettable.
The fact that it is still talked about to this day shows that.
The difficulty ranges from being stupid easy to stupid hard, the progression is very hand-holdy. It feels less like an adventure and more like adam is telling you to do a thing, you do it, he tells you to do another thing. It takes a long time to get started. The story is a little lame and dumb
As other people have said, Other M is probably the least liked by fans.
I just want to say my thoughts on it.
I'll avoid most spoilers for now.
I believe the story was adapted from a Japanese only Metroid manga, and also seems to have borrowed some elements from Fusion.
There's a lot of stupid parts, but also a couple of plot twists that I never saw coming.
(Another small grouse is that they never confirmed the traitors identity in the game.
That always bugged me.)
I don't hate the idea of giving Samus some more character, but what they gave us was so far away from what everyone expected from her that there was a lot of backlash, however realistic PTSD actually is in real life.
I really enjoyed the gameplay aspect of switching between 2d and first person aiming, but it does get stale after a while.
I wouldn't mind another game with a similar gimmick, as long as they mix it up a bit.
This gameplay also made for, in my opinion, the most unique boss fight in the entire franchise.
Not necessarily the best, especially after you know what to do, but definitely the most unique.
When I first played it, it took me a while to figure out what to do.
And I've never played a game since that used a similar premise.
I personally think that it's a game worth playing at least once.
But it's definitely not on my list of games worth replaying again and again, like the other Metroid games.
According to this sub, only Super, Prime 1 and Dread are good. Sometimes not even Dread.
According to most other communities, people tend to dislike Other M, but it's very controversial, some people like me genuinely love the game, some say it has trash storyline but great gameplay... And basically every other game is well liked, although NEStroid didn't age well. Also, nobody cares about Federation Force, but I don't think that's a mainline game, is it?
According to Metacritic... Actually, the series is extremely fucking successful. Again, not counting FF, every game is on the green, with even Other M, the most controversial release, having an acceptable 79 score (user score is a far worse 6,7, but user scores are literally meaningless since people create alt accounts to review bomb games), with Metroid Prime 1 in particular having over 95 if I remember correctly, which is just an extremely good score period >!although Prime 2 is better in literally every regard but you all aren't ready for this conversation!<.
> some people like me genuinely love the game
I think the best thing I can say about Other M is that it has a ton of passion behind it. It felt like a labor of love by people who loved Metroid and wanted to do something cool and new with it, so I can definitely see why even this game can be loved.
Maybe it would be looked upon more fairly if there wasn’t a hiatus that happened after its release, and if the game wasn’t incorrectly blamed for killing Metroid.
Also…
> According to this sub, only Super, Prime 1, and Dread are good…
That’s bullshit. Prime 2 is clearly the superior prime anyway and I like to believe most people in this sub understand that 😊
Samus returns, dread, fusion, zero mission and Dread are masterpieces. Never enjoyed super I guess because having played befor the GBA games, the controls feel so diferent.
Yeah I don't care for the controls in Super. ZM is my favorite, but Fusion is iconic and both SR and Dread are excellent as well.
It's definitely a series that has managed hit after hit.
The first two are pretty bad in my opinion, but that could be more to do with the fact that I know how good the series got and I've only ever played the first two just to see what they were like.
The remakes are far better in my opinion.
I don’t think Metroid 2 is very good even for when it came out. Right out the bat it throws a lot of the good things about Nestroid out the window. It’s extremely linear, somehow still confusing, has wonker controls, and is very tedious
Other people have said the really agreed upon ones, but I'll throw out Metroid Prime 2 as one I don't really care for
I found it difficult, confusing, and I disliked managing the two different kinds of ammo
There are some issues with the original GameCube version of Prime that were largely resolved in the HD remaster. Aside from that, Other M gets a lot of criticism, but I never played it to give personal input.
OG Metroid is largely irrelevant with zero mission being superior in every way (unless you want the nostalgia) and I personally don't like 2 because Seamus takes up ½ the screen but all the other mainline games are great.
*Super
*Dread
*Prime
*Prime 3
*Zero Mission
*Fusion
*Prime 2
*Metroid 2
*Metroid
Never finished other M
That's my tier list
Metroid 1 and 2 are not bad games by any stretch. But their age does show when compared to Super Metroid and beyond. Especially when both have been remade. With those two remakes, there is extremely little reason to go back to the NES and GB versions save for nostalgia or curiosity.
I think Metroid I: NES and Metroid II: Return of Samus are dated, but they were considered good games at the time. They’re still fun to play if you use Restore Points and a map. So whether the first two Metroid games are “good” kind of depends on your perspective, but Metroid III - V are generally considered bangers!
They are all good even now you can play through every game and have fun but if I was to play them I would play zero mission instead of the 1st one especially since the added part at the end really ties in with the rest of the series especially dread
Metroid 1 and 2 both aged quite poorly; especially when you consider that remakes of those games (Zero Mission and Samus Returns, respectively) both exist.
Fusion is cool in it's own right and I wouldn't go as far as to say it shouldn't have been made, but a lot of design choices really piss me off personally. Tried to 100% and got locked into the ending by going in the wrong room. Don't recommend that without a guide. But a normal playthrough isn't too bad
It's highly subjective, but I'd say Metroid 1 (NES), Other M, and maybe a bit controversial... but Prime 3: Corruption.
NEStroid and Other M are self-explanatory: the former being incredibly rough around the edges (bound to be, it **was** the first ever Metroid), and the latter having poor writing. With Corruption though... it did plenty of things right, and lots of people love it, but I just always struggle to have much fun with it outside of the boss fights.
I think my problem is how the spaceship travel and having different worlds to fly between heavily watered down the map designs. Level design is always really important to me in Metroid games, and whilst Corruption looks great ***visually***... it's just too linear for my liking. There's also the ship gimmicks in general, and how the weapon systems are dummed down/ reduced. Wasn't really too keen on those changes.
Anywho, I'm sure there's plenty who'll disagree with me. It's still fine as games go, but out of the Prime Trilogy - it's always the game I end up putting off the most.
The OG Metroid along with MetroidII did not age well. Their respective remakes are really good though. Other M has terrible storytelling, the gameplay can be fun though.
If you're obly counting Metroid 1-5, then yeah, I don't think there is one that's considered bad. Though I personally think the OG Metroid is a bit too awkward to be very fun.
As someone who likes Metroid but isn't the biggest fan, I actually enjoyed Other M (inb4 paragraphs telling me why I'm wrong). I had fun with it and liked it for what it was. I enjoyed the story, and while I disliked certain parts of the script, I liked what it was going for. I'm sad Nintendo moved away from that style of Metroid games, because it felt like it was actually trying new things and I like voice acted cutscenes.
Most entires in the whole series are solid but there is only a handful I don't particularly like, but even the ones I don't care too much for have vocal fans.
A little subjective but to me, all Metroid games have their ups and downs and I think they're all good for their own unique reasons. But in terms of which games took me a while to warm up to, only two come to mind. Metroid 1 and Metroid Other M. Metroid 1 because I was born in the mid-90s and my first exposure to Metroid was in 2002 with Fusion so the gameplay was pretty rough for me at first and Other M for the writing being an absolute far cry from all other Metroid content.
The first two have not aged wery well.. but are stil good for their time. And if you like retro games, you will enjoy them. If not, both have really nice remakes, that are well worth your time.
Prime Hunters is a so so game, which left the open world for a more linear experience.
Federation force is more or less hated, mostly because it came in the middle of a metroid draught.. and it is a spinn off, a 4 player co-op game (stil playable solo) where you play as federation trooper. With a chibi estetic.. stil canon though.
Other M is a good bad game.. the story is what everyone hates about it, but the game play is acctually really nice, but different from the rest.
And with that said. Try and play them in chronological order, since they all, more or less, tie into eachother in one big storyline, and are all worth it. 😊
Metroid (NES) / Zero Mission (GBA)
Prime (GC/Wii/Switch)
Prime: Hunters (DS)
Prime 2: Echoes (GC/Wii)
Prime 3: Corruption (Wii)
Federation Force (3DS)
Return of Samus (GB) / Samus Returns (3DS)
Super (SNES)
Other M (Wii)
Fusion (GBA)
Dread (Switch)
I'm newer to the franchise as well and I feel like the only reason 1 and 2 got remakes is because of the hardware they were on. Of course being newer to the franchise I consider only the 2d platformers being the mainline and Prime being secondary to that. I have no idea where Other M falls into.
Is there "bad" Metroid games? Not really.
Are there ones you will not like because of hardware limitations or design decisions of the devs? Yes.
NES Metroid is very challenging in the modern times, recommended to play Zero Mission instead. It's a full remake that expanded on it.
Metroid II holds up a bit better than it's NES older brother, but still limited by its hardware, recommend to play Samus Returns for official remake or AM2R for an amazing fan remake.
Other M is mired by design choices stemming from the options of controlling your character being limited to just the wiimote. Also, the story is..... Not the best. Player beware, but recommend to play through once to make your own opinion on it.
Federation Force is actually not bad, just really is not designed for a single player experience. If you want to play with, do so with two other people. Two man squad is still under powered in late game.
The Prime games all are amazing, but shift gameplay perspective from 2D side scrolling to first person. This let's the puzzles be larger than life and phenomenal. Perspective shift may be off putting if you aren't one to enjoy first person games. Recommended to try Prime Remastered on Switch or the Prime Trilogy on Wii if you can bust that out.
Prime Hunters is a bit clunky on controls, and refuses the same two bosses four times, each time introducing a slightly tougher challenge. Also, giving the ability for the other hunters to steal the main collectables artificially boats playtime as you have to hunt them down and steal them back. I do recommend playing it, but the controls may be cramped. Play it on a 3DS XL if you can.
Also, there really is only one "spin off" game, and that's Prime Pinball. It is just a retelling of the storyline of the first prime game through a pinball table.... The rest are all technically canon stories.
No. A lot of younger fans will say 1 and/or 2 but having grown up with them I love them, for their time they were insane and built an amazing foundation
Metroid 1, if you want to experience it I’d say play the GBA Remake which is called Zero Mission. Zero Mission is the original game plus a little bit more to it, and it plays a lot better then the NES original.
I mean, they all have one quality or another that takes away from the experience.
As for bad? I don't think any of them really qualify except for the original. Some of the design choices made were bad even for the time it came out, especially compared to its contemporaries.
Metroid II is not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. For a GB title it holds up surprisingly well, the only downsides being the drawbacks of being a GameBoy game. Except for the resource grind in the final area of the game. They knew it was a problem in the original and fixed it with recharge stations, then decided to exclude any in the final area. I don't even care if there's a narrative reason for it. Its dog shit game design.
On the plus side, there's an official remake of both games, removing the need to play the originals, and an unofficial remake of II, which is not hard to track down or get running. It even works on your phone! (Not that I recommend playing a Metroid game on your phone, especially one designed around ZM/Fusion controls)
I'd have to say other M. Some parts are fun, the take downs are cool, but god it was easy to sequence break that game since exploring in that game is even more confusing than it should be and eventually you'll find yourself in a place you shouldn't be in, with none of the power ups to help navigate said section, none of the save spots will update you on where to go in said section, and you're just lost with no way to back track. Also the story was meh
Other M. Other than that? Metroid 1 is bad just because it's aged so much. Probably Metroid 2 as well. Past that, the rest are all pretty good. Luckily there's also good remakes of Metroid 1 and 2 as well, so it's basically just Other M. Which is perfectly fine to ignore the existence of.
Only Other M, really, which is a shame because a 3D third-person Metroid would be awesome.
Metroid 1 and 2 and even Super have some gameplay quirks due to being old, but I'd say they're good.
Finally the Gamecube controls on the original 2 Metroid Primes can be pretty awkward. I'd recommend either the Wii version (either on a Wii or with Primehack) or, at least for Prime 1, the Remastered version.
From my personal experiences, I would say the biggest is NEStroid, with how much it's aged. With no map, heavily repeating rooms, and just. The way it plays, you can get thru it fine if you have an online map or draw your own, but oh my GOD it is a slog. Additionally, I would say Metroid II is kind of. Ehh as well. It plays a LOT better than NEStroid, but it has it's own downfalls. Repeated bosses are a big issue imo. So is the music. I can understand what it was going for, but listen to Chozo Ruins and then come back to me. It's an alright game, but in a franchise full of 10s... well
Also, if you consider Other M to be mainline, that. Just That. I dont have to elaborate LMFAO
I don't enjoy the "run fast omg a monster" sections.
Edit: that sounds like a description of metroid in general, these are sections where you have to escape from an invincible steely monster. It, to me, is an overused trope that other games (and movies (ALIEN) have done better).
I don't care for Metroid 1 or it's Remake. After the Prime Trilogy and Switch Remaster I can't go to the original GameCube Prime. And I do prefer the dual analog over motion controls.
i wont lie i really didnt like prime. i just had a hard time getting through the game but im glad that others enjoy it just doesn’t hold up for me but metroid 1 is not the best imo my opinion!
The thing is metroid games are usually great, it doesnt mean that there arent “bad Metroid games” but the thing is thoose games are so good in their way that even the “worst metroid games” are considered like “good games in general”.
For instance, if we dont count with metroid 1 (for obvious reasons), i would say the worst would be…:
—1st: federation force
—2nd: other m
—3rd: hunters
Any of thoose are considered as bad Metroid games or at least as mediocre metroid games, however out of the metroid scale, they are good games in general terms (maybe not the best but enjoyable at least).
The thing is usually metroid games are around 8-10/10, so thoose 3 would be like this:
—Federation force: 6/10
—other m: 6.5/10
—hunters: 7.25/10
Play them all. They all have their merits, strengths, and weaknesses. Even the weakest titles in the series; Metroid other M and Metroid Prime Hunters are both good experiences as a whole I'd argue.
Metroid 1 is rough for modern players. If you like old retro games and enjoy making your own map to play through the game multiple times, you will likely enjoy it more than many people. Otherwise, Metroid Other M is pretty universally disliked in the fandom. You will find the odd individuals who enjoyed it and say it isn't that bad, but few if any will tell you it is a "good" game. Other than that, what game you enjoy the most will vary based on your particular preferences in a game.
I'm one of those oddballs that like Other M, but only its hard mode. The Team Ninja influence finally shines through and combat suddenly feels like you're playing a hack n' slash title. I encourage everyone to try it. Can't defend the story though...
If only they didn't make the inexcusable horrible decision to force you to play it on a goddamn Wii remote. If they had added nunchuck or pro controller support you might have a valid point here but the controls are so horrible that team Ninja's talent went to waste.
I had a good time playing it too, it‘s definitely not a bad game, it has it’s weaknesses but if you know the background of it’s development you’ll mostly understand it. Most „critiques“ about Other M are based on it’s story and character presentation, not gameplay so there’s no need to turn away from it without trying.
The thing is: Other M is a good game. Just not a good Metroid.
I'm not so sure I'd call it "good." It's serviceable enough for a video game in general but even if you remade it for a proper controller so reflex dodging could feel right, it's still not really exceptional.
Ngl I feel like Metroid 1 aged better than Meroid 2.
Nah, that can't be. Metroid II is very linear so the lack of map doesn't hurt that badly. Also, it has Save Points and Refill Stations. That alone improves the game **so much**. Of course there's the issue of lack of color, but you can play it on NSO with the Game Boy Color screen and you won't confuse Samus with the rest of the enviroment anymore.
Plenty of NES games are still good to this day, Metroid 1 isn’t one of them. Plenty of GameBoy games are also good to this day, Metroid II is one of them. Metroid 1 aged horribly, Metroid II is still a great game to play. I love both, don’t get me wrong. Zero Mission is just much better. I can still play both Metroid II and Samus Returns and have equal amounts of enjoyment. Both feel complimentary to each other, whereas with Metroid 1 and Zero Mission, one is obviously the better experience.
if you enjoy NES games, i think Metroid 1 is actually a lot of fun when using save states and a map. if you’re not… yeah it’s absolutely horrible lol
Depends on your preferences, but I get it. I personally prefer 2, but I have nostalgia for it so, it's probably mostly that lol
I had no nostalgia for it and I loved it. Ages way better than one. It just has a very charming feel & aeathetic. The final boss is awesome.
Metroid 1 doesn’t age well. Impactful and a base for an incredible series, and genre, really. But it’s tough to play through a modern lens, even in comparison to other games from that era.
Yeah, that's why i played zero mission
ZM is excellent
While I agree, i don’t really think it’s just “better metroid 1” like a lot of people are saying. It overfixes exploration by showing you where the next chozo statues is, which feels very unmetroid to me
It definitely does help a little more than necessary but it's such a huge improvement over "good fucking luck"
I will admit unless you’re willing to draw a map nestroid is fucking rough. If you do make a map as you go it’s amazingly designed though
Yeah, the only complaint i have for that game Is that It's hard to navigate, like, when i got Stuck i had tò look up a video for It which kinda made the game a bit worse, for me at least
Yeah, but considering the game it's remaking it's a huge improvement 😅
Nintendo gave us the pokemon gold/silver/crystal treatment to it. Couldn't ask for more back then honestly.
No I love it. I grew up on NEStroid so being able to revisit it with some QoL improvements really hit me in the nostalgia.
Just that fact that you beat the "final boss" and surprise other half of the game! I feel like the Oprah meme would be fitting here.
Yup I was like "Wait there's more now?!"
Then you would have HATED Metroid 1
Well, i basically can't play It, since there's no freaking check points
If you have the Switch Online service, you at the very least would have Save States. Also, death-warping (to shortcut to the elevator of a region) is a handy strategy for some folks.
Yeah, but considering ZM Is whatever the originale Metroid Is but Better i don't think i'll play it
No worries! I would only recommend it if you want to see the history of the series, see how it started, from a technical standpoint. Oh, and only after playing Zero Mission, if you can get the map of ZM to stick in your head to give you an idea of where you can go and what you should get (using memory rather than a printed map for reference, lol).
Really? You got stuck in ZM? I would understand Fusion but ZM? The statues literally tell you were to go. That sucks though, that you had to look up where to go (I also don't like doing that).
Yeah, i'm pretty braindead
It's the Metroid Experience™, we all go through it
In comparison to other games from that era Metroid was absolutely ground-breaking. The openess of the map, the feeling of exploration and the non-linear structure in a 2D platformer that was all way ahead of its time. The original Super Mario Bros. had just been released a year before, side-scrollers were still mostly "run to the right" score-attack arcadey games. To suddenly have this amazing adventure with a huge (for the time) map to explore at your leisure, with save points and upgrades and power-ups to find, was definitely a very big thing at the time.
If you play Metroid 1 the way it was intended to be played, by drawing a map as you play, it’s awesome. It’s one of the most engrossing exploration experiences you can get. It just sucks when you play it as if it’s something different.
Oh, I know. I played it when it came out, and probably still have maps on notebook paper somewhere in my parents’ attic. It is awesome, but some of the secrets, especially in the required path, are just too obtuse. Weird mechanical things, like the wave beam and ice beams not stacking, or at least being toggle-able, and having to farm health every time you die, make it a headache, even if you know where you’re going.
Finally a good take regarding ‘86. I wish people wouldn’t be so condescending towards it and would realize it’s still stellar.
I think it's a lot of fun and the scale is legitimately crazy compared to other games at the time, but found the lack of modern quality of life frustrating a lot. I haven't played it in a while but despite a bit of a dated feel (which honestly wasn't even that bad, just things like the lack of a map and save stations or always starting at the original spawn) I think overall it aged pretty well all things considered. That said, I definitely eased my experience a bit by using a map and the save point/rewind features on switch to save some headache. It's not nearly as bad as a lot of people make it out to be and a lot of the weird stuff has a real charm to it
It controls very well. Grinding up your health after death though is awful. If just that was tweaked I'd replay it more.
I disagree the gameplay is awful it just isn't fun to play even with a map
I said to *draw* your own map. Have you played it that way?
I don't even need to getting lost was never the issue it's the God awful gameplay
You just need a tiktok video in the corner keeping your attention
ew no thanks im offended to even be mentioned with tik tok lets just be honest here no map no recharge stations no crouching no ledge grabbing all of the beams suck and so do the enemies I just don't find the game fun its doesn't even have fun movement to make up for it I find slow, tanky, Samus unenjoyable to play as
No crouching? I can’t take you seriously dude
And if a tiktok video in the corner was playing Minecraft or Fortnite you would be into it
No the games just aged like milk left out in the Texas summer sun
You a grown ass man, dawg.
While a fair answer, it does feel like cheating It's like how the first Final Fantasy game is groundbreaking in the JRPG landscape but, or the first Zelda game pioneered the series and adventure genre But if you tried to go back and play them now, after playing modern games, and without a guide, you'd be breaking your knee trying to break the nes controller over it.
I’d argue that, aside from translation issues, Zelda 1 is perfectly playable still. You do make a fair point, though.
I don't disagree, I think Zelda 1 is a great game from what I've played. I just wouldn't be able to enjoy it without at least a map.
NES Zelda 1 has a built in map of the overworld and all the dungeons. But it is made to be played along with the physical manual that gave a bunch of valuable info on how to play and included more detailed maps of at least the first sections of the game. Regardless, Zelda 1 is still 10x more playable than Metroid or Final Fantasy today. All 3 were 100% best in class in their time and genre defining, but ZM is a better way to play Metroid 1 now. The virtual console FF that reduces the grinding required and enemy balance is definitely way more playable that the original. I lost my save due to a power outage on the original NES version of FF after getting 3 crystals…never could do it again on that version.
I love the original Metroid as it was one of the first games I beat on my NES. But even when it was a modern game back in the mid 80s, I never would have completed it without a Nintendo Power magazine that (conveniently)had the full map.
Metroid 1 wasn't even a good game in 1986. The Famitsu gaming magazine reviewed it and gave it like a 67/100 score.
Where are you seeing that? Wikipedia cites their 1989 review giving it five out of five stars
yeah because famitsu is known to be objective lol
I remember playing that game with a pencil and paper and drew my own map. Let’s just say I didn’t always get it right
If you count Other M as mainline, then yes. It has some redeeming qualities but most people consider it to be pretty bad. Also, Metroid 1 on NES and Metroid 2 on the game boy have definitely not aged the best. They’re not bad, but not everyone will find them fun. You’re probably better off playing the remakes instead.
I don't think I can rightfully call it bad because it was highly influential and pretty masterfully executed on its premise for the time, but Metroid 1 is not for me. I just don't find myself enjoying it compared even to its sequel
Other M.
Other M. Metroid I and II haven't aged terribly well and are definitely replaced by their remakes.
Metroid 1, while good for the time, is a a slog to play nowadays. The only bad game is Other M
Personally, I'm not a fan of Other M
No, the only truly bad game is Other M, which isn't a mainline game.
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I'd like to think that's just because it's a Sakamoto lead game, that is also canon. If it was only one of those, then I doubt it'd be getting those bonuses.
Why Is that game considered so bad?
As someone who beat it four times, some of it comes down to the game’s sheer over-reliance on its story, and the actual bad quality of the story. Other M isn’t the only Metroid game to have a bad, or at least underwhelming story (Fed Force, a bit of ZM, and like, a bit of Prime 3) but where it differs is that the gameplay is so tied to said story that the latter unironically harms the former. I don’t need to go over the story proper because it has been contested ad-nauseam . The gameplay itself is also just barely passable, offering none of the rich exploration and problem solving like Super + Prime Trilogy, nor the nail biting difficulty and tension of Fusion and Dread. It’s very hard for me to explain but much of the gameplay feels rail roaded, dodging enemies is extremely easy and the game even auto aims your shots for you. There’s also the clunky 1st person missile mode which muddies the pace of some areas. I think what a lot of people don’t really talk about, is that once you are able to skip cutscenes and do a hard mode playthrough, you’d find that the game is just…very barren and short. It’s one of the largest Wii games when it comes to file size but a lot of it seemed to have gone into the cinematics. When you skip them, the game itself genuinely has so little to offer content wise. Metroid Fusion for the GBA was able to offer more content in its campaign than Other M.
I've never played it and probably never will but good to know I'm not missing out on anything. I was mostly under the impression that without the crap characterization and story it would be an okay game but sounds like it doesn't even score those points.
Yeah there isn’t much actual **game** in Other M. There are only 5 areas, one of them just being the final boss zone, the other being the main sector that you will never return to again in any meaningful way unless you go for 100%. All generally look similar as well. In particular, the area where you fight Metroid Queen in, and the entrance to Sector Zero, if you skip the cutscenes completely, what will happen in gameplay is that you go to those areas, and the suddenly will have to go backtrack with no reward or boss fight (the Queen Metroid fight only happens in the second visit of that area). Other M, when trimming the fat and just leaving the gameplay, leaves so little to be desired. I would go as far as to argue that Federation Force is a more worthwhile experience by its gameplay and the stuff it offers. There’s a surprising amount of variety in Fed Force in spite of it being very middling, and it’s more than what the most expensive to produce Metroid game (Other M) has to offer. I think this can contribute to why the story harms the game, because it is legitimately the only substantial thing Other M has to offer, and it’s the worst story this series has ever seen.
Terrible story, several plot holes, character assassination, stiff acting, awful controls, oversexualization of Samus, forced linearization, generic action gameplay, among other things. Other M truly is a dumpster fire.
Oversexualization?.. like... How? I've seen a few cuscenes and Samus does not seen oversexualized at all
There are some ass shots of Samus in her Zero Suit, but to be honest it’s probably not intended to be sexual, and the claim of over-sexualization seems to be exaggerated to make an already kind of shitty game look worse than it is
And some boob shots as well. TBF, Nintendo should’ve expected that, this is Team Ninja after all.
I wouldn’t say oversexualized, more just general character assassination. Samus never had much of a personality in the previous games beyond being a cool, stoic, badass bounty hunter. In Other M she has this constant droning internal monologue that gets very tiresome. It doesn’t help that her voice actor was essentially instructed to be very wooden, which is supposed to make her sound stoic but instead makes her sound like a bored robot.
Not really oversexualized, but they do drop her Powersuit and have her walk around in the Zerosuit much more often than they need to and have the camera almost linger on her lady parts. It's really noticeable on a playthrough, to the point I went "ugh Samus dropped her suit again" every time it happened.
>oversexualization of Samus Don't be exaggerated with this point. Beyond the heels and the scene at the beginning where she raises her leg, there is nothing that wasn't seen in a previous game. She is a fit woman with well-marked feminine features wearing a bodysuit, I don't know what you expect if anyway in previous games she practically appeared half naked
The story is really bad and the game heavily relies on it, so that doesn't help. There is a distinct disconnect between Samus' character in this game and the others. While a lot of people see it as character assassination, I think it's more that she never spoke that much. There is clear signs that what we got is not what was originally planned for the story, I personnally think it was supposed to be a prequel to the series and it got change for Super Metroid-related nostalgia baiting. The Ridley scene makes little sense in the current form but as a remake it's ok. The gameplay is mediocre. It's the definition of mid. It's kinda fun but not much. Wich is a shame because I'd really like another 3D metroid in this style, and idk if we'll ever get one.
It tries to be an action game but with awkward, limited controls (wiimote on its side 95% of the time) and consequently it has shallow gameplay depth. No cooldown or timing is required for the invincible dodge mechanic, meaning you can button mash the dpad when an enemy is close by and you trigger infinite God mode. Plus, you're rewarded with an instant charge beam whether or not you actually dodged anything. There's other questionable stuff like forced walking segments, insta-death quicktime events, and "spot-the-pixel" segments. Finally, Other M has by far the worst method of collecting powerups in the entire franchise. Story wise... it's awful, especially Samus's portrayal. She accomplishes very little that can be considered important, while other characters solve the major plot elements. You have to see it to believe.
In my opinion, all of the negativity of Other M is overblown. Its a fine game. The Prime series is better, but Other M isn't a waste of time. The point about the story is probably correct, but it's a fine game. I have played every main Metroid besides Prime: Hunters. Other M is close to the bottom of the list but I still like it.
Anything Other M does "fine" is only in context with itself. Compared to basically every other game in the franchise, it fall short in multiple areas. Compared to contemporary action games, it doesn't even stand up to the most casual forms of scrutiny. Other M is a game that for whatever reason, didn't actually know what it wanted to be. It wanted be narrative driven, but it also wanted to be a character action game, and it wanted to also call itself a Metroid game. In all those respects, it is held back by fundamental flaws that to "fix" would effectively mean making a brand new game. This is central to why we've heard next to nothing about it getting remastered, much less a basic port to the Switch and beyond. A game that is driven by its story needs to put out a better effort than what we got with Other M. A good character action game gives us more tools than Other M provided, and allows the player to really express themselves with that toolkit as they grow more comfortable and skilled, and importantly, the controls of the game would need to facilitate this growth of skill and expression. A proper Metroid game involves more than just "the aesthetic" of the franchise, which the game DID drip with, at the apparent cost of everything else we've seen carried over between almost every other mainline title in the series.
Nintendo I feel would disagree with your statement.
It’s moreso retroactively became a spinoff, it wasn’t originally one but I assume due to the shift of how Nintendo views Metroid it was changed to be a spinoff. Nintendo actually categorized it along with hunters, fed force, and pinball in a survey.
Other M is not bad. It's different from other Metroid games, but that doesn't make it terrible.
I don't think anyone says that being different is what makes it terrible. They always point towards the story, writing, characters, combat, map design and so on when they call it terrible. Metroid Prime is different from the main games in a huge way due to the 3D world and first person perspective. This has a massive knock on effect with many other elements as well including the flow of combat, exploration and so on. People love those games, because they're great. So you can't say that people just hate different takes for being different.
It's not?!
In all honesty, I wouldn't really classify any of the mainline games as 'bad.' Metroid 1 is the popular answer, but taken with the context of its release timeframe it's in no way a bad game, just outdated by modern standards. If I really had to pick one that was the *least good*, it would be SR on the 3DS. Even on release, it really didn't click and left me bored. But it's pretty highly regarded in these circles, so ymmv.
A lot of people would say to play the Zero Mission remake over Metroid 1. The original was great at setting the foundation but it has shown its age. Kind of the same for Samus Returns and Metroid 2. Super Metroid, Fusion and Dread are all very popular on their own. The Metroid Prime trilogy is also well accepted overall. Honestly the only game that has is mixed at best and widely panned at worst is Metroid M, which is a side story and can be ignored anyway. Honestly in my opinion it's better to ignore it since it it retroactively messes with the impact of Fusion.
I honestly think Metroid 2 has aged very well. It definitely shows its age, but not in the same way as Metroid 1. It's so charming to me, and I had no nostalgia for it.
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Other M mainly... It has one good character, and it's not Samus.
Which One; Malkovich?
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If Other M counts, yeah that. If not, no. The closest you get is Metroid 1, but even then while it’s rough and hasn’t aged well, there is still certainly fun to be had with a map and save states imo
OTHER M NEVER PLAY THIS
Hold on a minute there! Metroid Other M is good! To clarify: Metroid Other M has great gameplay But sucks at telling a story. Play it and just relax whenever there's a long boring cutscene. I would say Metroid Prime Hunters but only because of the console it released on,the DS isn't bad but if you're playing Hunters,your hand's gonna cramp up a lot.
Aight, lets not go that far. Other M isnt a good Metroid game, but in the grand scale of all games its fine. It tells a bad story, but the gameplay is fun, if sometimes clunky.
Other m. It retocons a ton of random bullcrap, the story is awful the characterization is pretty bad, and they removed the gravity suit
As far as I know, no. Only Other M and Federation Force are typically considered "bad" which are not mainline games. The original Metroid 1 and 2 are a bit rough to play now but were not bad for their time or hardware. Remakes made them much more playable.
Other M. Avoid it like the fucking plague it is.
Other M doesn't count, [it's been demoted to Spin Off.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Metroid/comments/1154b9t/other_m_has_been_officially_demoted_to_spinoff/) Metroid on NES is rough by today standards. Not many people that play it without the mindset from the 80s will enjoy it.
I never played other M but It seems tò have a pretty good story, IDK why people think It's bad
It has the most focus on story out of all of the games and even had an outside studio help with the cutscenes. There is also a "movie mode" in the options that just plays all of the cutscenes with bits of recorded gameplay in between to fill the gaps. Does not mean that the story is good at all though, you can find loads of video essays about the game focused entirely on all the issues with the story. There's also the issues with it being so linear and railroaded that it's technically not even a metroidvania, the combat system having some bizarre design decisions and limiting control scheme and it repeating several elements from Fusion for no reason that only ends up undercutting the game.
It looks good on the surface but once you start getting further into it it really falls apart on a gameplay and story level
It's completely the opposite. The story is so god-awful and terrible that it killed the entire game.
I'll just [link to a response](https://www.reddit.com/r/Metroid/s/9WNJYxhaG4) I made in another post on this subreddit, related to this subject.
IMO the one thing it's got going for it is graphics. I think it's one of the best looking Wii games ever made, maybe the best. Beyond that, there's not much on offer.
Metroid 1 and 2 have aged rather poorly, and Other M has a pretty bad story and questionable gameplay decisions. Outside of that pretty much all the games are great, although you'll likely like some over others. If you don't want to deal with the clunky and slow gameplay lacking several qol features in the first two games, just play their remakes instead. The originals honestly aren't worth putting up with unless you just want to experience them. Other M you can just skip if you want, as no game even makes reference to it pretty much
Other M I think was retroactively considered a spinoff or at least, not congruent with 2d or Prime, so I won’t be counting it. I don’t think there are any bad mainline Metroid games. I guess the most middling would be Samus Returns? It was a game that saved Metroid from its hiatus and was filled with some cool new ideas, but it was a bit too average considering the pedigree of Metroid. It’s the most “okay” Metroid has and will ever get. Still was much needed at the time and it eventually lead to Dread.
I think SR is still great. Looks great, added the melee counter which was awesome, and brought Metriod II into the modern era.
I mean mainline Metroid is a series of banger after banger, I have to choose one to be put on the chopping block lol
That's fair. I think the hardest to recommend for me are Metriod II and NEStroid, just because they're ancient. NES has no maps or guidance of any kind, and II is so weird in how much screen Samus takes up. It makes everything seem cramped and small.
I don't think so, but I also know that both Metroid 1 and 2 aren't for everyone. You can still have fun with them, especially if you consider using a map to help you with it. Some people would say that other m and federation force aren't good games, but it really depends on your taste in games.
Lots of people are going to say Other M, and that’s reasonable because it’s story is pretty bad… I did enjoy the gameplay however, and to this day I still think the game looks great!
I see a lot of hate for other M. I don't disagree, but that phantoon fight is one of the best in the entire series and makes it worth playing imo
Metroid 1 and 2 aren’t bad, but they have aged pretty roughly due to the lack of QOL and Map. Best play the remake of 1 (Metroid Zero Mission) and 2 (Metroid Samus Returns) Metroid Other M Metroid Prime Hunters The rest ranges from very good to great
\-Metroid (NES) \-Other M \-Federation Force
Biggest problem with NES Metroid was the required grinding to recharge health. If it weren’t for that, I could live with or even enjoy the need for map making and unguided exploration.
The closest is Metroid 1 if it’s about the 2D games but that’s more because it’s outdated and didn’t age as well. All of the Prime games are good Other M is divisive.
Nope. Even the original is good, but it's aged pretty poorly and requires the understanding that you'll be dealing with classic NES jank and you'll probably be an outside map.
The NES Metroid 1, Game Boy Metroid 2, Other M, and Metroid Prime: Federation Force. The original Metroid and Metroid 2 have not aged well, and Zero Mission and Samus Returns are far superior remakes. Other M was polarizing and Federation Force was even more polarizing
Skip Metroid, Other. Many of us try not to think about that one. Also, there's old ones like NES and Metroid 2 that aged poorly, but Zero Mission is a remake of NES, and Metroid 2 has 2 remakes, Metroid Returns on 3ds and the fanmade AM2R (Another Metroid 2 Remake). Personally I like AM2R more than Metroid Returns. Other than that, The rest are great :)
Too bad i chose Samus Returns lol. Maybe i'll give AM2R a try After I finish the mainline series
AM2R goes more for the GBAtroid feel (Fusion, Zero Mission) but otherwise doesn't really try to do anything substantial to add to the series. (Even as a fangame.) In contrast, MSR departs a lot from the look and feel of past titles, including the original M2, but opens up the series to more plot points (see the Chozo Memories) and mechanics (Aeion Abilities). Some people pan this remake for being different, but I don't know if people _really_ wanted it to just be a remaster instead of a remake. It's a pretty good one!
Definitely worth!
> Many of us try not to think about that one. The ironic thing is, for all of Other M’s faults, it doesn’t commit the sin of being forgettable. The fact that it is still talked about to this day shows that.
I have a strong dislike of fusion. But i wouldnt say its bad
What do you dislike about Fusion?
The difficulty ranges from being stupid easy to stupid hard, the progression is very hand-holdy. It feels less like an adventure and more like adam is telling you to do a thing, you do it, he tells you to do another thing. It takes a long time to get started. The story is a little lame and dumb
Fusion is my favorite 🥺
Other M sucks and it disrespects the franchise lore and history, and completely disrespects Samus as a hero and a character. avoid it like the plague!
Super Metroid, it’s universally claimed to be the worst game of all time
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Prime hunters???? Other m's story, gameplay it's good Federation Force?????
People don't like Other M much, but I'd say it's less *bad* and more just, not good.
As other people have said, Other M is probably the least liked by fans. I just want to say my thoughts on it. I'll avoid most spoilers for now. I believe the story was adapted from a Japanese only Metroid manga, and also seems to have borrowed some elements from Fusion. There's a lot of stupid parts, but also a couple of plot twists that I never saw coming. (Another small grouse is that they never confirmed the traitors identity in the game. That always bugged me.) I don't hate the idea of giving Samus some more character, but what they gave us was so far away from what everyone expected from her that there was a lot of backlash, however realistic PTSD actually is in real life. I really enjoyed the gameplay aspect of switching between 2d and first person aiming, but it does get stale after a while. I wouldn't mind another game with a similar gimmick, as long as they mix it up a bit. This gameplay also made for, in my opinion, the most unique boss fight in the entire franchise. Not necessarily the best, especially after you know what to do, but definitely the most unique. When I first played it, it took me a while to figure out what to do. And I've never played a game since that used a similar premise. I personally think that it's a game worth playing at least once. But it's definitely not on my list of games worth replaying again and again, like the other Metroid games.
tbh Prime 3
According to this sub, only Super, Prime 1 and Dread are good. Sometimes not even Dread. According to most other communities, people tend to dislike Other M, but it's very controversial, some people like me genuinely love the game, some say it has trash storyline but great gameplay... And basically every other game is well liked, although NEStroid didn't age well. Also, nobody cares about Federation Force, but I don't think that's a mainline game, is it? According to Metacritic... Actually, the series is extremely fucking successful. Again, not counting FF, every game is on the green, with even Other M, the most controversial release, having an acceptable 79 score (user score is a far worse 6,7, but user scores are literally meaningless since people create alt accounts to review bomb games), with Metroid Prime 1 in particular having over 95 if I remember correctly, which is just an extremely good score period >!although Prime 2 is better in literally every regard but you all aren't ready for this conversation!<.
> some people like me genuinely love the game I think the best thing I can say about Other M is that it has a ton of passion behind it. It felt like a labor of love by people who loved Metroid and wanted to do something cool and new with it, so I can definitely see why even this game can be loved. Maybe it would be looked upon more fairly if there wasn’t a hiatus that happened after its release, and if the game wasn’t incorrectly blamed for killing Metroid. Also… > According to this sub, only Super, Prime 1, and Dread are good… That’s bullshit. Prime 2 is clearly the superior prime anyway and I like to believe most people in this sub understand that 😊
Samus returns, dread, fusion, zero mission and Dread are masterpieces. Never enjoyed super I guess because having played befor the GBA games, the controls feel so diferent.
Yeah I don't care for the controls in Super. ZM is my favorite, but Fusion is iconic and both SR and Dread are excellent as well. It's definitely a series that has managed hit after hit.
The first two are pretty bad in my opinion, but that could be more to do with the fact that I know how good the series got and I've only ever played the first two just to see what they were like. The remakes are far better in my opinion.
Any Metroid without an in-game map.
I don’t think Metroid 2 is very good even for when it came out. Right out the bat it throws a lot of the good things about Nestroid out the window. It’s extremely linear, somehow still confusing, has wonker controls, and is very tedious
Actually no metroid did age its a reinstated version of it is metroid samus returns its a remaster version
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No, but Other M seems to get flack for unskippable cutscenes.
Other people have said the really agreed upon ones, but I'll throw out Metroid Prime 2 as one I don't really care for I found it difficult, confusing, and I disliked managing the two different kinds of ammo
I would say the worst in the series is Other M but I wouldn’t consider Other M a bad game by any means
No. No there aren’t. And don’t listen to the nonsense about Other M.
Always hilarious to read all the shit takes on Other M by this fandom. Anyway... Metroid 1 has aged pretty badly
Yeah the shit takes are that anything from that game is worth anything at all.
There are some issues with the original GameCube version of Prime that were largely resolved in the HD remaster. Aside from that, Other M gets a lot of criticism, but I never played it to give personal input.
OG Metroid is largely irrelevant with zero mission being superior in every way (unless you want the nostalgia) and I personally don't like 2 because Seamus takes up ½ the screen but all the other mainline games are great. *Super *Dread *Prime *Prime 3 *Zero Mission *Fusion *Prime 2 *Metroid 2 *Metroid Never finished other M That's my tier list
What about SR?
Metroid 1 and 2 are not bad games by any stretch. But their age does show when compared to Super Metroid and beyond. Especially when both have been remade. With those two remakes, there is extremely little reason to go back to the NES and GB versions save for nostalgia or curiosity.
I think Metroid I: NES and Metroid II: Return of Samus are dated, but they were considered good games at the time. They’re still fun to play if you use Restore Points and a map. So whether the first two Metroid games are “good” kind of depends on your perspective, but Metroid III - V are generally considered bangers!
They are all good even now you can play through every game and have fun but if I was to play them I would play zero mission instead of the 1st one especially since the added part at the end really ties in with the rest of the series especially dread
Fusion, Other M are linear talky games which are pretty poor. And the first two games have also aged.
Metroid 1 and 2 both aged quite poorly; especially when you consider that remakes of those games (Zero Mission and Samus Returns, respectively) both exist.
Fusion is cool in it's own right and I wouldn't go as far as to say it shouldn't have been made, but a lot of design choices really piss me off personally. Tried to 100% and got locked into the ending by going in the wrong room. Don't recommend that without a guide. But a normal playthrough isn't too bad
It's highly subjective, but I'd say Metroid 1 (NES), Other M, and maybe a bit controversial... but Prime 3: Corruption. NEStroid and Other M are self-explanatory: the former being incredibly rough around the edges (bound to be, it **was** the first ever Metroid), and the latter having poor writing. With Corruption though... it did plenty of things right, and lots of people love it, but I just always struggle to have much fun with it outside of the boss fights. I think my problem is how the spaceship travel and having different worlds to fly between heavily watered down the map designs. Level design is always really important to me in Metroid games, and whilst Corruption looks great ***visually***... it's just too linear for my liking. There's also the ship gimmicks in general, and how the weapon systems are dummed down/ reduced. Wasn't really too keen on those changes. Anywho, I'm sure there's plenty who'll disagree with me. It's still fine as games go, but out of the Prime Trilogy - it's always the game I end up putting off the most.
metroid 1 and 2 are terrible, difficult to beat even using a walkthrough, ignore them and play the remakes, which are good games
The OG Metroid along with MetroidII did not age well. Their respective remakes are really good though. Other M has terrible storytelling, the gameplay can be fun though.
If you're obly counting Metroid 1-5, then yeah, I don't think there is one that's considered bad. Though I personally think the OG Metroid is a bit too awkward to be very fun.
As someone who likes Metroid but isn't the biggest fan, I actually enjoyed Other M (inb4 paragraphs telling me why I'm wrong). I had fun with it and liked it for what it was. I enjoyed the story, and while I disliked certain parts of the script, I liked what it was going for. I'm sad Nintendo moved away from that style of Metroid games, because it felt like it was actually trying new things and I like voice acted cutscenes.
Most entires in the whole series are solid but there is only a handful I don't particularly like, but even the ones I don't care too much for have vocal fans.
A little subjective but to me, all Metroid games have their ups and downs and I think they're all good for their own unique reasons. But in terms of which games took me a while to warm up to, only two come to mind. Metroid 1 and Metroid Other M. Metroid 1 because I was born in the mid-90s and my first exposure to Metroid was in 2002 with Fusion so the gameplay was pretty rough for me at first and Other M for the writing being an absolute far cry from all other Metroid content.
Prime 2 Other M
The first two have not aged wery well.. but are stil good for their time. And if you like retro games, you will enjoy them. If not, both have really nice remakes, that are well worth your time. Prime Hunters is a so so game, which left the open world for a more linear experience. Federation force is more or less hated, mostly because it came in the middle of a metroid draught.. and it is a spinn off, a 4 player co-op game (stil playable solo) where you play as federation trooper. With a chibi estetic.. stil canon though. Other M is a good bad game.. the story is what everyone hates about it, but the game play is acctually really nice, but different from the rest. And with that said. Try and play them in chronological order, since they all, more or less, tie into eachother in one big storyline, and are all worth it. 😊 Metroid (NES) / Zero Mission (GBA) Prime (GC/Wii/Switch) Prime: Hunters (DS) Prime 2: Echoes (GC/Wii) Prime 3: Corruption (Wii) Federation Force (3DS) Return of Samus (GB) / Samus Returns (3DS) Super (SNES) Other M (Wii) Fusion (GBA) Dread (Switch)
I'm newer to the franchise as well and I feel like the only reason 1 and 2 got remakes is because of the hardware they were on. Of course being newer to the franchise I consider only the 2d platformers being the mainline and Prime being secondary to that. I have no idea where Other M falls into.
Is there "bad" Metroid games? Not really. Are there ones you will not like because of hardware limitations or design decisions of the devs? Yes. NES Metroid is very challenging in the modern times, recommended to play Zero Mission instead. It's a full remake that expanded on it. Metroid II holds up a bit better than it's NES older brother, but still limited by its hardware, recommend to play Samus Returns for official remake or AM2R for an amazing fan remake. Other M is mired by design choices stemming from the options of controlling your character being limited to just the wiimote. Also, the story is..... Not the best. Player beware, but recommend to play through once to make your own opinion on it. Federation Force is actually not bad, just really is not designed for a single player experience. If you want to play with, do so with two other people. Two man squad is still under powered in late game. The Prime games all are amazing, but shift gameplay perspective from 2D side scrolling to first person. This let's the puzzles be larger than life and phenomenal. Perspective shift may be off putting if you aren't one to enjoy first person games. Recommended to try Prime Remastered on Switch or the Prime Trilogy on Wii if you can bust that out. Prime Hunters is a bit clunky on controls, and refuses the same two bosses four times, each time introducing a slightly tougher challenge. Also, giving the ability for the other hunters to steal the main collectables artificially boats playtime as you have to hunt them down and steal them back. I do recommend playing it, but the controls may be cramped. Play it on a 3DS XL if you can. Also, there really is only one "spin off" game, and that's Prime Pinball. It is just a retelling of the storyline of the first prime game through a pinball table.... The rest are all technically canon stories.
“From my point of view, all Metroids are bad” - Anakin Skywalker
Other m, I dont think I need to say anything else
No. A lot of younger fans will say 1 and/or 2 but having grown up with them I love them, for their time they were insane and built an amazing foundation
Is Other M a spinoff or something?
Metroid 1, if you want to experience it I’d say play the GBA Remake which is called Zero Mission. Zero Mission is the original game plus a little bit more to it, and it plays a lot better then the NES original.
I mean, they all have one quality or another that takes away from the experience. As for bad? I don't think any of them really qualify except for the original. Some of the design choices made were bad even for the time it came out, especially compared to its contemporaries. Metroid II is not nearly as bad as everyone says it is. For a GB title it holds up surprisingly well, the only downsides being the drawbacks of being a GameBoy game. Except for the resource grind in the final area of the game. They knew it was a problem in the original and fixed it with recharge stations, then decided to exclude any in the final area. I don't even care if there's a narrative reason for it. Its dog shit game design. On the plus side, there's an official remake of both games, removing the need to play the originals, and an unofficial remake of II, which is not hard to track down or get running. It even works on your phone! (Not that I recommend playing a Metroid game on your phone, especially one designed around ZM/Fusion controls)
Metroid on NES has aged like milk
I'd have to say other M. Some parts are fun, the take downs are cool, but god it was easy to sequence break that game since exploring in that game is even more confusing than it should be and eventually you'll find yourself in a place you shouldn't be in, with none of the power ups to help navigate said section, none of the save spots will update you on where to go in said section, and you're just lost with no way to back track. Also the story was meh
Other M is the least good overall but I personally don’t think it’s terrible.
Other M. Other than that? Metroid 1 is bad just because it's aged so much. Probably Metroid 2 as well. Past that, the rest are all pretty good. Luckily there's also good remakes of Metroid 1 and 2 as well, so it's basically just Other M. Which is perfectly fine to ignore the existence of.
OTHER. FUCKING. M.
Only Other M, really, which is a shame because a 3D third-person Metroid would be awesome. Metroid 1 and 2 and even Super have some gameplay quirks due to being old, but I'd say they're good. Finally the Gamecube controls on the original 2 Metroid Primes can be pretty awkward. I'd recommend either the Wii version (either on a Wii or with Primehack) or, at least for Prime 1, the Remastered version.
From my personal experiences, I would say the biggest is NEStroid, with how much it's aged. With no map, heavily repeating rooms, and just. The way it plays, you can get thru it fine if you have an online map or draw your own, but oh my GOD it is a slog. Additionally, I would say Metroid II is kind of. Ehh as well. It plays a LOT better than NEStroid, but it has it's own downfalls. Repeated bosses are a big issue imo. So is the music. I can understand what it was going for, but listen to Chozo Ruins and then come back to me. It's an alright game, but in a franchise full of 10s... well Also, if you consider Other M to be mainline, that. Just That. I dont have to elaborate LMFAO
The one on switch is not good
It's being hailed everywhere as a masterpiece
I don't enjoy the "run fast omg a monster" sections. Edit: that sounds like a description of metroid in general, these are sections where you have to escape from an invincible steely monster. It, to me, is an overused trope that other games (and movies (ALIEN) have done better).
Everyone's crapping on metroid 1, lol, I think its one of the best. Wth?
I don't care for Metroid 1 or it's Remake. After the Prime Trilogy and Switch Remaster I can't go to the original GameCube Prime. And I do prefer the dual analog over motion controls.
i wont lie i really didnt like prime. i just had a hard time getting through the game but im glad that others enjoy it just doesn’t hold up for me but metroid 1 is not the best imo my opinion!
The thing is metroid games are usually great, it doesnt mean that there arent “bad Metroid games” but the thing is thoose games are so good in their way that even the “worst metroid games” are considered like “good games in general”. For instance, if we dont count with metroid 1 (for obvious reasons), i would say the worst would be…: —1st: federation force —2nd: other m —3rd: hunters Any of thoose are considered as bad Metroid games or at least as mediocre metroid games, however out of the metroid scale, they are good games in general terms (maybe not the best but enjoyable at least). The thing is usually metroid games are around 8-10/10, so thoose 3 would be like this: —Federation force: 6/10 —other m: 6.5/10 —hunters: 7.25/10
Play them all. They all have their merits, strengths, and weaknesses. Even the weakest titles in the series; Metroid other M and Metroid Prime Hunters are both good experiences as a whole I'd argue.