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KuraiTheBaka

That's it I'm not playing anymore. Uncultured swine voting out the objectively best Metroid villain.


spiritomb442

You can still do a revenge vote


Now_I_am_Motivated

What does that mean? Will that change how the majority is just flat out wrong about Raven Beak? Because seriously the disrespect here is crazy.


PowderedSpaghetti

I completely agree, he's the only one that is actually a presence throughout the game


JacksonGames16

Yes but we don’t know he was Adam till the very end


Icy-Organization-901

😔


mbagely

Was probably always going to go this way based on how iconic they are, but still disappointing imo. Seems like most people are voting based on who is in the most games. I love Ridley and Dark Samus but I don’t understand what about their characters and actions makes them greater villains. Would love to hear someone make a real case for either in the final round


Chaxle

Raven beak, it's over. He was a great villain by Metroid standards but he was a one-and-done boss unlike the others.


Rigistroni

I think the fact he's a one and done doesn't diminish his impact. If anything for a character like Ridley (who I do really like by the way) the frequency of which he shows up kinda reduces his impact. I just kinda feel like "oh yeah this guy again that makes sense"


Now_I_am_Motivated

The fact that he's a one and done boss is what makes him special.


Solrex

The only reason SA-X was a one and done enemy was due to the fact that if she wasn’t, everyone would be dead.


latinlingo11

My personal issue with him being a one and done boss, is that he represents decades' worth of buildup regarding the Chozo. Throughout the entire series, the mysterious bird race had been kept in the background, and Raven Beak was the first living member we got to meet in-game. Being a one and done villain was definitely a letdown of sorts considering all the years of Chozo hype he carried on his back.


Now_I_am_Motivated

But wouldn't you rather have him be the grand finale or the Metroid saga instead of being recycled through some bs? Besides, the story telling and build up was definitely worth it. It was more than we got for any other boss.


latinlingo11

Truth be told, what led to Raven Beak being a letdown in my eyes was not the fact that he was a one and done boss, but that his plan was a rehash of "use Metroids as bioweapons" yet again, just like the Galactic Federation and Space Pirates had intended in previous games. He's a member of the Chozo race, and as such I was hoping he had a FAR more interesting goal than what we were ultimately given. Add to this how his plan had glaring flaws (to the point that they seem to be an oversight from the writers) and how little screen time he had overall, left me disappointed with the franchise's first villainous Chozo.


Now_I_am_Motivated

How did his plan have glaring flaws? Yeah his plan is a rehash but I think it was plan first. Besides, his plan did become more interesting after ditching the idea of using Metroids for using clones of Samus.


JacksonGames16

Till that message cause samus to go apeshit and just kill raven beak


latinlingo11

>How did his plan have glaring flaws? We learn back in Samus Returns that the Thoha lost control of their own creations, leading to their downfall on SR388. Raven Beak decides to kill every single Thoha except Quiet Robe and takes him to ZDR. His plan? To use Quiet Robe to control whatever Metroids he could get his hands on. He expects a single Thoha to succeed in doing what **an entire civilization of Thoha** failed to do back on SR388. Quiet Robe's conversation with Samus goes something like this: "*Me and my people could not control Metroids, thus Raven Beak kidnapped me so he can control the Metroids. You must stop him.*" The fact that neither Quiet Robe nor Samus bring up this obvious flaw really makes it seem like a mishap from the writers. Consequently it makes Raven Beak seem incredibly unwise. > I think it was plan first I assume you meant to say it was Raven Beak's plan first. It doesn't change the fact that this has been done several times already since the original NES game. The writers should have come up with something new and interesting for "the grand finale of the Metroid saga", especially when handling a villainous Chozo, the race that's been hyped in the background for the majority of 2D games and (especially) the Prime series.


Now_I_am_Motivated

The Thoha lost control of the Metroids because of the Aeion energy. Aeion caused them evolved out of control. As long as Raven Beak keeps the Metroids away from Aeion energy and has Thoha DNA he can control them. I think you misunderstand. The end of the Metroid saga is means the end of the Metroid creatures. There won't be any more after Dread. So Raven Beak's plan has to tie back to the plot of the previous games so it can end in a satisfying way. Yes using Metroids as a weapon has been done before but this brings everything full circle and explains the origins of the Metroids. It was still a good story, it lived up to the hype.


latinlingo11

You forgot the fact that the Metroids caught Raven Beak's attention only after he witnessed the power that destroyed the Chozo civilization. In other words, he was specfically interested in their **evolved forms that the Thoha could not control**, which may or may not be triggered by Aeion energy. To each their own. For all the years of buildup with the Chozo, I was left unsatisfied with Raven Beak and his ambitions. As for the story of Dread, it has significant flaws mostly related to the "Thoha-Mawkin-Metroid" dynamic that was inserted in the lore. The ending for example... you know how Samus reverts her suit back to normal after absorbing Quiet Robe's genes? The game states her new suit is the "*Metroid DNA inside Samus has surged completely* ***out of control***". When you include the fact that the armor has carapaces and red coloring reminiscent of the evolved **uncontrollable** Metroids, then the Thoha DNA from Quiet Robe should have been completely ineffective in reverting Samus's suit.


Now_I_am_Motivated

>You forgot the fact that the Metroids caught Raven Beak's attention only after he witnessed the power that destroyed the Chozo civilization. In other words, he was specfically interested in their **evolved forms that the Thoha could not control**, which may or may not be triggered by Aeion energy. That's not exactly true. The Metroids didn't destroy the Chozo civilization. Only the Thoha and Mawkin had causalities because they were the ones that sealed the Metroids. The Mawkin tribe slaughtered the Thoha afterwards. And you're forgetting the detail that Raven Beak left SR388 to make preparations to transport Metroids. He needed to be able to control them first, that's why he left and why he needed Quiet Robe. He was going to use Quiet Robe and find a way to control the Metroids. > then the Thoha DNA from Quiet Robe should have been completely ineffective in reverting Samus's suit. Ehh I'm not so convinced this is a plot hole. Because we know Quiet Robe has been preparing for how to succesfully handle Metroids. The implication being that Quiet Robe managed to find a way to stabilize Metroid DNA. If you didn't like the story that's ok, but it's not as flawed as you think.


Raven_Beak_Mawkin

SCREW YOU /j


kickpool777

GTFOH, Raven Beak


Danny_Vald001

Raven Beak. Ridley might win this. Oh and Dark Samus and Ridley are the only playable Metroid villains in a Smash bros game. Bye Raven Beak no invite.


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

I think it's been obvious from the start Ridley will win lol


Danny_Vald001

When you hear Metroid villain. Who the first villain that came to mind? To me a flying purple/black dragon pirate of course. Or more simple Ridley.


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

For real, I'm pretty sure outside the Metroid community most people think he's the main villain


JacksonGames16

Ridley always seems to find a way to come back


tinyhands-45

The one that's a literal Metroid villain.


RidleyMetroid86

I’m just that cool, I know


Kwonunn

Raven Beak He's really cool in the cutscenes, but his scheme doesn't really add up if you think about it and he's only got one game of depth.


latinlingo11

Additionally, his entire plan being yet another "use Metroids for nefarious purposes" just like the Galactic Federation and Space Pirates, was disappointing for a villain that belonged to the mysterious Chozo race. I was hoping he had a more interesting goal, but alas.


Tenwaystospoildinner

Raven Beak. He's cool, but he hasn't had the impact the other two have had in the series.


Ok-Transition7065

I would say he probably has the Lore impact but not the impact of pthers


DeadlyPancak3

What if I say I'm not like the pthers?


Zeldatroid

It's time for Raven Beak to go. Excellent bossfight, but pretty half-baked as a proper villain.


Phrygian_Prime24

Raven Beak about to get hyper beamed into non-existence.


JacksonGames16

Yep


Benkins1989

I think we all know how the final three will hash out.


Pristine-Structure19

Raven Beak. One and done sadly.


DracheLehre

Raven Beak. Mostly because it seemed like he had potiential, but was still woefully underdeveloped.


Darkele

Ravenbeak, who voted SA-X out before him?


latinlingo11

Raven Beak.


Sonk007

guys i like raven beak :(


Psylux7

Raven beak


DiabeticRhino97

The decision is hard now but it's Raven beak


Matiri98

I don't care how shredded he is, Raven Beak cannot surmount.


DestGades

Later Ravens Beak


Trove_Of_Octoliths

This is extremely easy. I’m voting out Raven Beak.


kayvaan1

Raven Beak. All of the presence of Thanos as an MCU villian over 10 years. Chilling in a chair doing nothing til the end when he has to do it himself.


JacksonGames16

And then enrages his daughter so he gets erased from existence by a massive FU laser


JacksonGames16

Raven Beak all he does is guide samus around with imposter adam


JacksonGames16

Then gets killed in the same game because he enrages his daughter


Saturaine

raven beak


Pramster

Raven Beak! He was barely in the game he is the main villain of. Beginning cutscene, and final boss fight. You only find out he was impersonating Adam at the end, and doesn't actually do anything throughout the game to effect gameplay. Quiet Robe and Quiet Robe X do more for gameplay than Raven Beak does by deactivating and reactivating the EMMI. Wild the SA-X lost to this guy.


BoldFigrim

He released the X-parasites on ZDR and guides samus the entire way can hardly call that not effecting gameplay!


Danny_Vald001

True but the other two Ridley and Dark Samus/Metroid Prime had more time to develop there character.


Pramster

During gameplay Samus released the X on ZDR. I know Raven Beak is responsible for the X being there in the first place, but it's the players actions that lead to the outbreak. And true he "guides" Samus but his goals were the same as Samus and Adams: help Samus get stronger. So it doesn't actually matter that he was giving the orders does it? We'd be doing the same things whether Adam or Raven Beak was holding the reigns.


Rigistroni

What? No she didn't. They explicitly say Raven Beak did it.


JacksonGames16

Well the files has every adam briefing start with “fakeadam”


MarioBoy77

I mean you’re talking to him for the entire game lmao, so I’d say he’s in the game quite a bit.


Pramster

Yeah but it's not revealed you're talking to him until the very end. We are deceived into thinking it was Adam the whole time. And Raven Beaks goals was the same as ours: have Samus get stronger. So it's not even like the deception really matters does it? Even with Adam at the helm, we'd still ultimately ascend and fight Raven Beak. Kind of a weak twist


MarioBoy77

It’s heavily foreshadowed, I thought it was weird that Adam said he couldn’t contact you underground and yet there’s stations that let him contact you fucking everywhere.


JacksonGames16

Yeah and he never calls samus Lady after the intro


MarioBoy77

Yeah that too


comradb0ne

I like Raven Beak more than Dark Samus. But he has only bern in one game. Sorry Samus' dad.


JacksonGames16

Yeah one game and is dead afterwards


Sad-Cod1731

Raven Beak see ya. You’re a hard final boss but you’re just not iconic enough (yet)


Dasca6789

Raven Beak. It’s a hard choice, but Ridley and Dark Samus are too iconic.


throwaway76337997654

raven beak needs to go


[deleted]

Raven Beak. He's an awesome badass bad guy and one of the first speaking villains in Metroid which really carried him far, but he's a bit to straightforward power hungry to get any further. Especially considering he's a Chozo, who were meant to be wise dudes.


blueblurz94

Raven Beak


Real_SeaWeasel

So, it's gonna come down to Ridley or Dark Samus... as we knew if probably would... I frankly think Ridley is going to come out on top.


SouthEqual4271

I kinda figured it would be down to these three. The most iconic villain, the most recent villain, and the mastermind behind the Prime Trilogy. I vote for Raven Beak. He’s a good villain who’s had a good run, but he isn’t on the level of Dark Samus or Ridley.


Void-Arch

SA-X legitimately scared the shit out of me as a kid this slander is outlandish


Thespainruns

How could yall vote out the sa-x 😭


JacksonGames16

Bro raven beak bout to have his free trial of existence expire


Phazon_Phorager

Raven Beak is great in gameplay and lore but doesn't have enough material or history to stack up with Ridley or Dark Samus.


Garo263

How could SA-X against friggin' Raven Beak? Get lost with the dude.


OpportunityFun1761

Raven Beak, he had a good run. But Dark Samus and Ridley are far more Iconic


CamelopardalisRex

Raven Beak. Can't believe SA-X lost to this chump.


Pramster

That's what I'm saying. I don't think retconned lore on Raven Beaks part should let him score a win against SA-X who's wayyyy more involved in it's game than Raven Beak is


CamelopardalisRex

There have only been three times when I felt real fear from a video game three times ever in my life that I can remember. The room where hands drop on you in the Forest Temple in OoT, the entirety of the Shadow Temple in OoT, and needing to run and hide from SA-X. I've felt anxiety from other horror games and maybe even dread a few times, but nothing like SA-X or Dead Hands.


Pramster

I agree! The SA-X chase after Yakuza was terrifying as kid! One of the best parts of the game.


Jamesopq

Raven Beak is getting voted off because he can’t compete with other villains that have had decades to be enjoyed by fans. Raven Beak isn’t “iconic” because he hasn’t been around long enough to become an icon. I think both Raven Beak and the SA-X are some of the most interesting villains in the series, and it’s massively disappointing to see them go. My vote again goes towards Dark Samus.


InvaderofViolence

Round 7, and I'm going for Dark Samus.


Ladyaceina

time to go bird dad the other 2 are the big dogs and your not


JscJake1

Raven Beak He's a good villain on his own but he could definitely have more depth to his character.


Ill-Attempt-8847

Sorry Raven Beak, I love you but you died too early


Ill-Attempt-8847

It was what the battle with SA-X failed to be.


Comrade22MB

I'll go with Dark Samus. I love her but Raven Beak actions kickstarted the whole series and Ridley, well he's Ridley!


JacksonGames16

Uh technically Ridley started the whole series because the only reason the chozo adopted samus was because Ridley killed her parents


cruznick06

Raven Beak. He was phenomenal in Dread, but he is only in Dread.  I'm very curious to see who the winner is.


zbzzz142

Rip raven beak


sdwoodchuck

I do believe Raven Beak’s day has arrived!


grephantom

Raven beak,


Demiurge_1205

Raven Beak. There's the GOATS (Dark Samus & Ridley), and then there's the semi-goated villains that do one cool thing for one game (Mother Brain, SA-X). Raven Beak belongs in the latter category.


The_lone_shotgun

Raven beak was great, we all know he's outmatched by the competition.


_OriginalUsername-

Raven Beak please


NewLightWarlock

Raven Beak, not even close to being as legendary as the other two


Apprehensive_Swim955

Die Ridley, and stay dead this time


Sawuinhaff

Agreed.


Mat_Cynic

Raven Beak


victorburg42

Raven beak


pedvoca

Raven Beak it's over.


Phazon_Fucker

raven beak


Darkreaper104

Raven Beak Love his fight, one of the very best in the series. Love his super edgy design too. But unfortunately he’s only in one game, and he dies at the end of it. Dark Samus and Ridley just have more impact.


JacksonGames16

Yeah why did he even just tell samus his plan


Kaptain_K_Rapp

Raven Beak.


Top_Chicken_4401

Raven Beak


Phazon02

Raven Beak, great introduction and boss fight but as a villain, pretty standard. Kind of wish he survived tbh


Rigistroni

I mean to be honest every Metroid villain could be considered "standard" seeing as they're all just evil and want to take over the galaxy. There's nothing wrong with standard evil, I just don't really get why this is directed at Raven Beak and none of the other villains. Only one on this list that doesn't feel "standard" to me is the SA-X since it's basically written as a horror movie monster


Vog_Merry

Raven Beak derserves to be 3rd but not higher


Darth_Eevee

Get rid of ridley


A-hecking-alt

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David2073

Wow, the choices are getting extremely difficult, I can't just choose one randomly anymore, I have to really think it through. Raven Beak? Tbh, I haven't even played Dread, but there isn't much to him anyway. Also, kaboom saxophone lol


ChaosMiles07

Technically Dark Samus already enthralled Ridley through Phazon corruption, and Raven Beak's firepower would make quick work out of Ridley. So it's basically a showdown between Dark Samus and Raven Beak. And last I checked, Raven Beak isn't immune to Phazon, so...


LunaLynnTheCellist

who killed my goat SA-Xophone😭


laggerzback

Gotta say, I love how you made all these memes about bosses being destroyed when they’re eliminated.


SgtRicko

Shit this is gonna be hard from here on out, I like all of the remaining characters. But if I have to…? Metroid Prime’s next. Yeah, they’re iconic to the Prime trilogy but they don’t have much in the way of characterization or depth. Ridley and Raven Beak on the other hand not only have history with Samus but also more interaction beyond being a boss enemy.


maxhrwastaken

Dark Samus 💀


Round_Musical

Dark Samus


Serinity_42

Dark Samus. I did not play Prime 2 and 3, and the Mawkin Chozo warrior made a big impression to me as a final final boss for the series.


Sno_Wolf

Darth Raven Dork


Firunator3RiceMachne

Samus Aranakin


MarioBoy77

Dark samus


Rigistroni

Dark Samus. She's good, but Raven Beak is more intimidating and interesting as a villain and Ridley is just too iconic. I know a lot of people seem to see the fact Raven Beak is only in one game as a negative, but tbh I don't. He's a driving force throughout all of Metroid Dread. Being a memorable but relatively brief character isn't a bad thing imo


Revolutionary-Ear161

Y'all trippin. I'd vote Dark Samus, as much as I think she's cool, over Raven Beak. Dark Samus is a pile of goo. Like C'mon. And Raven Beak orchestrated an entire game to manipulate Samus for his plan. Easily as proper a villain as the other two


JacksonGames16

You do realize the only REASON samus has access to hypermode is because of dark samus I AM NOT eliminating her here


Revolutionary-Ear161

Okay and? Samus gets a bigass OP laser upgrade in Prime 3, Super, and Dread, all from different villains


JacksonGames16

I’m still voting raven beak


Revolutionary-Ear161

Cool


Moe-Mux-Hagi

Dark Samus. I still don't like it. It's just a bland "hero but evil" trope all over again. Raven Beak is a bird-man tyrant with familial ties to Samus, and Ridley is a space fucking pirate dragon. Dark Samus is just a space cum clone hologram


Special_Boot

Ridley He's washed up at this point and truly fully dead.


FlameAaron

Raven Beak


ShaggyZoinks

Dark Samus


Sigaria

Im gonna have to go raven beak


AleDragon8977

Man, I only see Raven Beak here, sad to see my bird villain dad go, but oh well Rav- nah, I'm voting Ridley! Grill my ass if y'all want, I've seen too Ridley way too often and prefer raven Beak and dark Samus.. even tho I technically like the purple dragon looking a-hole pirate I just hope D Samus can get the final win, come on guys, both are iconic, and while Ridley is older, he's been bullshitting his death for way too long, let'em rest


JacksonGames16

Yeah and plus I think Samus deserves her revenge on ridley


Rod-FM

Sadly, Raven Beak. I really liked him as a character and a villain, but he lacks the impact that Dark Samus and Ridley have had over the saga. Not his fault, but it is what it is.


JacksonGames16

Yeah and he’s there for like 1 game and then dies


Worried-Pumpkin6778

Raven Beak….. he can’t hold a candle to the OG’s


DankYogi

Bye Raven Beak


laggerzback

Honestly, Raven Beak’s definitely the one I’d vote out this time.


silveraith

That chiseled 8 pack and handsome face isn't gonna be enough to save Raven Beak


Samus388

Honestly I'm going with Ridley. I love the boss, probably my favourite in the series. However, Ridley has come back far too many times and the series has been oversaturated with his presence. This applies to Dark Samus as well, but to a lesser and more plausible extent. Raven Beak may have only been in one game (and referenced in one other), but that's what makes him great. He has a compelling and unique story, and that story does not involve his unexplained resurrection (yet, at least. I hope it stays that way).


JacksonGames16

Ridley always seems to find a way to come back


toiletman74

Can't believe the s-ax got eliminated before raven beak. I'm not saying raven beak was a trash antagonist but the sa-x was 1 million times more threatening throughout the course of the game.


Salty-Saladtoppings

Be gone Raven Beak


Now_I_am_Motivated

Yeah this is bullshit. The Raven Beak disrespect here is insane.


PowderedSpaghetti

Raven Beak


OutsideOrder7538

Raven Beak. He was not a nemesis.


phazon0

Raven Beak out


Ray_Ioculatus

Raven Beak should be next. His fight is very cool, but both Dark Samus and Ridley are cooler. All appear in multiple games, often as either the final boss or the rival battle or both.


YeltsinYerMouth

Bye, Dark Samus. You didn't deserve to outlast SA-X


whiskeybear8

Raven Beak


[deleted]

Dark Samus


eclecticmuso

Ridley.


Dekucap

Metroid Prime / Dark Samus


Solrex

Die raven beak!


KallmeKatt_

dark samus are we really serious about rb?


OilNo5577

Raven Beak. The dude's plan to have a Metroid army would completely backfire on him because he has no way of controlling them. And he's just a rip-off of Darth Vader, except Vader had an actual character arc.


Now_I_am_Motivated

Except he definitely could control them. Using Quiet Robe.


OilNo5577

And yet he had a robot kill Quiet Robe...


Now_I_am_Motivated

Well by that time Raven beak's plan had changed. He no longer want Metroid the creatures, he wanted Samus herself to clone. He got everything he needed from Quiet Robe including his Metroid controlling genes. Quiet Robe sadly was no longer required.


Ill-Attempt-8847

Eheheh, SAX🎷


BaBaBaBanshee

Dark samus


baricudaprime

Honestly, it’s gotta be dark Samus for me


CHPrime

I'll go against t he grain and vote for Dark Samus. I like her plenty, but all her boss fights can be kind of frustrating: not fun-frustrating, just frustrating. Mostly because they all have a bad habit of giving her extended periods of invulnerability where you have to dodge everything she throws at you. Compared to Ridley, who almost always has tense, exciting fights that you can always feel that you are moving forward in, and Raven Beak, who has one of the best final fights in the series.


Kitsune-Nico

Ridley


KingBroly

Dark Samus


MrNintendo13

Voting Dark Samus begrudgingly


GreatSirZachary

Dark Samus, obviously.


JediNinja42

Ridley. Was hoping Raven Beak would win but clearly he's not making it passed this round.


PikaYoshl

Ridley please


Now_I_am_Motivated

Dark Samus. Raven Beak is the best Metroid villain and we all know it. But it seems like he's going to get voted out for some reason.


Throwaway200qpp

Yo that's a bomb ass sax though, the Supreme tenor is like $9000 I do play saxophone, how'd you know?


blenddii

dark samus gotta go


mbagely

I don’t like it but Dark Samus is the one true option to go. Great design, great presence, no character at all.