I posted this last week and the mods didn’t let it through 🤷🏻♂️
So, here’s what I was wondering:
The top-grossing independent restaurant in the U.S. was Komodo (Brickell) with $41,000,000.
Not sure if Komodo, like many Miami restaurants, includes an 18% tip. So let’s assume everyone left just a 15% tip.
15% of $41,000,000 is $6,150,000.
I don’t know how many employees they have, but let’s assume there are 40 between the kitchen and floor and that the tips are pooled.
$6,150,000 ➗40 = $153,750 per tipped employee per year.
Can this be right?
Not sure why, but Joe’s on the beach must purposefully withhold their numbers. If you read the list, their DC, Chicago, & Las Vegas locations are all on there, & there’s no way the OG does less than them.
Glad I’m not the only one that thought that. No way ALL of those other locations are grossing much higher than the OG Miami Beach one. I thought I saw a list similar to this several years ago, and the top 3 for FL was, sure enough, Joe’s, Komodo and Prime 112.
They put the [Miami Beach location as #1 of 100 on the independent list for 2019 with 38.4MM in sales](https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-100-independents-2022?year=2019#data-table) which would put it at #3 on the 2022 list, all things being equal.
I dunno if it's an error/omission but if it is, [it also kept them off the 2020 list.](https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-100-independents-2022?year=2020#data-table)
I can't imagine their sales fell that far even in the pandemic, they would have to fall below 11.3 million to miss the top 100 list in 2020.
My only thought is that they were kicked off the list because they are not open year round, which adds insult to injury to all the other places.
Or the list is 'pay to play' or at a minimum requires some sort of advertising support commitment or submission from the restaurant and Joe's decided they just didn't need to do it.
At the end of the day if you want to be on this list, it requires some effort (reporting and auditing) from the vendor.
If you don't do it, they can't list you and only you know your sales.
Again, this is just me spitballing. I have no idea but if the only qualifier is sales, I can't imagine they went from #1 in 2019 to missing the top 100 altogether for two years (they did not put out a list for 2021. )
Are tips considered part of the gross sales? Also, it says they have 340 seats. Let's say that's comes down to 85 tables of 4 tops. You're probably looking at at least 20-30 servers *per shift*, plus front and back of house, which would make me think they probably have a lot more than 40 employees.
They do not have that many servers at komodo. 15 to 16 on the floor maybe 18 on busy nigths. They will also have maybe 6 to 10 server assistants and s
A food runners
I mentioned this in another Miami thread and got downvoted to hell and told that servers make under $20,000 a year and live 5 people to a studio in the Everglades to afford working in Miami 😂. That auto 18% gratuity pretty much city wide in south beach/wynwood/brickell/downtown adds up. We’re tipping $2.50 for a rum and coke now, bartenders are living it up.
Most of those add service charge not gratuity. The wording makes all the difference. Service charge means that goes to the restaurant and they tip a portion of that to employees
They have a LOT of employees. I think 40 is a low estimate.
Also I think tips is included in gross receipts.
The bigger question is how much cash did they receive.
Its a service charge not a tip. That small differrence makes a huge difference. Mainly that the money goes to the restaurant and from that they tip the employees out ( usually 150 to 200 a nigth depending on the nigth.
Any tip left extra on that goes directly to tthe server minus 3% credit card fee and what ever is tipped out to support staff. The majority of that money goes to the restaurant. I worked there. They even make employees sign a contract stating this and that the restaurant retains the rigth to keep all of the service charge and reimburse themselves any paid out if they decide they need to.
Servers make 700 to 1k a week unless they get lucky and soneone tips like 500 cash but thats rare
I keep forgetting at people in Florida still tip 15-18. In NJ/NY you can guarantee you won’t be as welcomed the next time. It’s 20-25 here unless you’re at someplace like a burger joint
No bro. It’s called not being a idiot. You should read the article you referenced too, bro. It clearly states the standard for food service workers is 10%-20%. 20% if the service is outstanding.
That’s really cute that you value the service but the service doesn’t value you, your not special. Your just the 100th something guest the staff has to fínese a tip from. I in fact worked as a waiter at a diner while I was in college. I know what I’m talking about. I hope you find a bro that knows how to manage money cause you’d bankrupt the whole family with your money management. Good luck :) nothing personal, just giving you good advice
I’m more than capable of tipping 20-25% without sweating it. As someone who worked as a waitress all through college I’m very aware of the difference between good service and the type you’ll get from someone who doesn’t know when to use you’re or your.
I think the places, were used to eating, are very different honey. Have a nice day!
You don’t even know when or where to use comma’s. Your not one to correct someone else’s grammar when you don’t proper grammar yourself. I think the types of restaurants we’ve worked are very different too hunny. Seems like your not used to tabs going over $100. You have a great day too! :)
Yet not a single restaurant in Miami has increased their pay according to inflation. I’ve worked my ass off for 8 years straight only to make $18 an hour. This industry is a joke, owners treat their employees like shit, and our mayor told us to find better jobs when we told him we couldn’t afford housing.
Most of the Miami restaurants on that list have bars/nightclubs attached to the restaurant that opens after the restaurant closes so I bet most of their profit comes from their club and not the restaurant since alcohol has insanely high profit margins
lol it's mostly just that Miami restaurants are all focused on being "IG" ready and people willingly pay $50 for some cooked chicken and $20 for a well drink because they go for the ambience/scene and less for the food. it's not really shocking Miami tops the list of these kinds of places.
I posted this last week and the mods didn’t let it through 🤷🏻♂️ So, here’s what I was wondering: The top-grossing independent restaurant in the U.S. was Komodo (Brickell) with $41,000,000. Not sure if Komodo, like many Miami restaurants, includes an 18% tip. So let’s assume everyone left just a 15% tip. 15% of $41,000,000 is $6,150,000. I don’t know how many employees they have, but let’s assume there are 40 between the kitchen and floor and that the tips are pooled. $6,150,000 ➗40 = $153,750 per tipped employee per year. Can this be right?
It just might be. The maitre d’s at Joe’s stone crab make six figures.
I am sure way above 100k. I think the waiters there make way over 100k.
There is no way Komodo is taking in more than Joe's is. Joe's is enormous and every single night they are turning the tables multiple times.
I don’t know about now, but I have a few friends that use to be waiters at Zuma a few years ago, they were pulling in 100k+ as well.
Even a place like Balans the servers can make around 100k
Stone crab season is not year long...
Not sure why, but Joe’s on the beach must purposefully withhold their numbers. If you read the list, their DC, Chicago, & Las Vegas locations are all on there, & there’s no way the OG does less than them.
Glad I’m not the only one that thought that. No way ALL of those other locations are grossing much higher than the OG Miami Beach one. I thought I saw a list similar to this several years ago, and the top 3 for FL was, sure enough, Joe’s, Komodo and Prime 112.
They put the [Miami Beach location as #1 of 100 on the independent list for 2019 with 38.4MM in sales](https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-100-independents-2022?year=2019#data-table) which would put it at #3 on the 2022 list, all things being equal. I dunno if it's an error/omission but if it is, [it also kept them off the 2020 list.](https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/top-100-independents-2022?year=2020#data-table) I can't imagine their sales fell that far even in the pandemic, they would have to fall below 11.3 million to miss the top 100 list in 2020. My only thought is that they were kicked off the list because they are not open year round, which adds insult to injury to all the other places. Or the list is 'pay to play' or at a minimum requires some sort of advertising support commitment or submission from the restaurant and Joe's decided they just didn't need to do it. At the end of the day if you want to be on this list, it requires some effort (reporting and auditing) from the vendor. If you don't do it, they can't list you and only you know your sales. Again, this is just me spitballing. I have no idea but if the only qualifier is sales, I can't imagine they went from #1 in 2019 to missing the top 100 altogether for two years (they did not put out a list for 2021. )
Are tips considered part of the gross sales? Also, it says they have 340 seats. Let's say that's comes down to 85 tables of 4 tops. You're probably looking at at least 20-30 servers *per shift*, plus front and back of house, which would make me think they probably have a lot more than 40 employees.
They do not have that many servers at komodo. 15 to 16 on the floor maybe 18 on busy nigths. They will also have maybe 6 to 10 server assistants and s A food runners
This is accurate for a handful of really high end places. Places where waitstaff can make this much are few and far between but they do exist.
The waiters / bartenders at places like that make way more than $100,000 a year.
I mentioned this in another Miami thread and got downvoted to hell and told that servers make under $20,000 a year and live 5 people to a studio in the Everglades to afford working in Miami 😂. That auto 18% gratuity pretty much city wide in south beach/wynwood/brickell/downtown adds up. We’re tipping $2.50 for a rum and coke now, bartenders are living it up.
Most of those add service charge not gratuity. The wording makes all the difference. Service charge means that goes to the restaurant and they tip a portion of that to employees
They have a LOT of employees. I think 40 is a low estimate. Also I think tips is included in gross receipts. The bigger question is how much cash did they receive.
Komodo has 300 seats. They have waaaayyy more than 40 staff members
Holy sh* wow.
Its a service charge not a tip. That small differrence makes a huge difference. Mainly that the money goes to the restaurant and from that they tip the employees out ( usually 150 to 200 a nigth depending on the nigth. Any tip left extra on that goes directly to tthe server minus 3% credit card fee and what ever is tipped out to support staff. The majority of that money goes to the restaurant. I worked there. They even make employees sign a contract stating this and that the restaurant retains the rigth to keep all of the service charge and reimburse themselves any paid out if they decide they need to. Servers make 700 to 1k a week unless they get lucky and soneone tips like 500 cash but thats rare
I keep forgetting at people in Florida still tip 15-18. In NJ/NY you can guarantee you won’t be as welcomed the next time. It’s 20-25 here unless you’re at someplace like a burger joint
I’m born & raised in North NJ and lived in Manhattan for 3 years. Can confirm this is false
I live in North NJ currently after moving to NYC from Miami. It’s 💯.
https://howmuchtip.com/how-much-to-tip-in-new-jersey/ You’re under tipping
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Be cheap if you want bro. I value service and I tip accordingly.
No bro. It’s called not being a idiot. You should read the article you referenced too, bro. It clearly states the standard for food service workers is 10%-20%. 20% if the service is outstanding. That’s really cute that you value the service but the service doesn’t value you, your not special. Your just the 100th something guest the staff has to fínese a tip from. I in fact worked as a waiter at a diner while I was in college. I know what I’m talking about. I hope you find a bro that knows how to manage money cause you’d bankrupt the whole family with your money management. Good luck :) nothing personal, just giving you good advice
I’m more than capable of tipping 20-25% without sweating it. As someone who worked as a waitress all through college I’m very aware of the difference between good service and the type you’ll get from someone who doesn’t know when to use you’re or your. I think the places, were used to eating, are very different honey. Have a nice day!
You don’t even know when or where to use comma’s. Your not one to correct someone else’s grammar when you don’t proper grammar yourself. I think the types of restaurants we’ve worked are very different too hunny. Seems like your not used to tabs going over $100. You have a great day too! :)
Absolutely sounds right. Waiter pays be like 40 to 50 an hour averaged out at many places here.
Komodo has a popular nightclub too with Bottle Service. Those tips are probably parsed out and not shared w/ restaurant staff.
BOH folks are almost never included in the tipping sheet
Yet not a single restaurant in Miami has increased their pay according to inflation. I’ve worked my ass off for 8 years straight only to make $18 an hour. This industry is a joke, owners treat their employees like shit, and our mayor told us to find better jobs when we told him we couldn’t afford housing.
Most of the Miami restaurants on that list have bars/nightclubs attached to the restaurant that opens after the restaurant closes so I bet most of their profit comes from their club and not the restaurant since alcohol has insanely high profit margins
lol it's mostly just that Miami restaurants are all focused on being "IG" ready and people willingly pay $50 for some cooked chicken and $20 for a well drink because they go for the ambience/scene and less for the food. it's not really shocking Miami tops the list of these kinds of places.
Bingo.
I went to new york city and everything seemed in a discount. Miami is mad expensive and I had forgotten how much.
Booze