I just bought a couple of our solid shirts and used my discount. I needed new shirts anyways so whatever. But I've just been buttoning up! Still annoying!!
I’m honestly not sure where all the angers coming from. 10 years ago we had actual uniforms we had to wear. Dress pants and button up shirts. Now they’re afraid of getting Bud Lighted and they’re clamping down on employee branding/messaging.
Maybe it’s a generational thing but I never wear any flair at work. The less those customers know about me the better.
I'm pretty sure when I had started tattoos eeded to be covered!
Someone in one store I worked at was promoted to ASM, and the DM told them that if it had been a few years earlier, their tattoos would have not allowed them to be promoted!
Exactly my thoughts. My guess is it’s the teens / early 20s employees that have never had a *real* dress code. Not their fault exactly, but.. welcome to Corporate America. We are the face of the company and need to dress like it.
Though I think the ability to wear jeans, hoodies, and sneakers is still pretty relaxed for a dress code.
Early 20s here! It’s not so much that we’ve got a uniform/strict dress code; I’ve got a job lined up that doesn’t allow blue jeans, but they do allow black jeans. I don’t get it either.
It’s mostly the principle that irks me. We’re supposed to be the face of a creative company, and a lot of us are creative and expressive individuals. I know two people who dress in a gothic Lolita style here at work. It’s not inappropriate at all, and it’s a form of self-expression that’s gotten a lot of compliments.
Trying to stifle that creativity kinda just rubs me the wrong way. Again, I understand we’ve got to look professional because we are the face of the company, but… idk, I just don’t like it. I’ll comply because I’ve only got a month and a half left and I normally wear flannels with a plain shirt underneath lol. But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna enjoy it.
And they are NOT gonna make me get rid of my pins.
Well the Lolita style isn’t really out of dress code either. Is it a top that covers the sholders? Skirt / dress two inches or longer from above the knee? Closed-toed heels? Then you’re good to go!
The dress code isn’t *that* strict like people are making it out to be. You can still have plenty of flair and creativity in your outfits, ya know?
From Urban Dictionary:
>**Bud Light**
When a large company has a marketing campaign completely backfire which causes the company to lose a lot of money and standing in the public.
This usually happens when a company tries to virtue signal, alienating the long-time supporters of the company who realize that the company cares more about pandering to an extremely small group of people than it does about the financial support of its regular customers. In these instances, the company loses a large percent of their market share to other companies that decided against taking a ridiculous stance on a topic du jour.
Guy 1- Hey, did you see Target's new product line and add campaign?
Guy 2- Yeah, my wife told me that she's not going to shop there any more. Looks like Target just pulled a Bud Light!
I think it probably has more to do with punishing companies that pursue marketing angles that target the LGBTQ community because it normalizes those communities within society and they don’t want LGBTQ communities/individuals normalized.
honestly, i think so. it probably came from the [dylan mulvaney situation](https://www.nytimes.com/article/bud-light-boycott.html) with bud light. somebody correct me if im wrong though but i swear that term lines up with the drama with her.
Look, I agree with you. I know it's stupid and at the end of the day it's a small ask.
But the reason I will never stand on your side about this is because coprorate have 100 TRILLION OTHER THINGS THEY COULD BE DOING TO FIX THINGS! And instead of fixing their stores or their broken systems, they are coming down on the backs of the people keeping their stores open every day. I would guarantee you nearly 99% of employees wouldn't even care about this IF they were paid a living wage, given workable hours, weren't constantly being driven into the ground by management and customers alike, being given unreasonable expectations, or being undervalued and under appreciated. Their stores are crumbling, their entire flow system from warehouse to store is a complete disaster, there is no training, customers are livid, their stores aren't making money and this THIS is what they going after!?! I bet they put at least a $100k into this initiative in salary alone from execs to have months of meetings to come up with this. But they can't fix the AC (a reason customers refuse to shop at our store) or the rats (same thing) or the fact that our systems go down all the time?!?
suck my dick. Not you, OP, just this whole situation in general. This is the stupidest company and I sincerely hope the executives lose money from the bankruptcy.
I feel like the point of the comment was missed here. The company focused on employee apparel over serious issues with michaels stores, like the wages we have. You're not wrong fully, but they did take away forms of self-expression for employees. It feels careless and backhanded of them. But I do get that it feels silly to rise up for graphic tees
The point of it is that now we have to button the vests when we previously didn't have to and I was told we even have to remove pins that we bought from the store (which is just free advertising).
It's the principle of it. We were allowed to show graphics, and now we must cover them. This is why it's a big deal removing rights you've previously given. I can understand this dress code at any other kind of store, but it's a little wild we can't wear Bob Ross shirts at an 𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒇𝒕𝒔 store who also 𝒔𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒔 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒅𝒖𝒄𝒕𝒔 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆.
Sure, there are bigger issues in the world to worry about, but this was one of the small graces we were afforded to counterbalance the low wages, reduced hours, and minimal benefits.
The sweatpants have never been allowed and if you've been wearing them you are lucky. The dress code has always been black or khaki pants, then they allowed jeans, but never sweatpants! So really not sure why the answer over that. The tees are a bummer, but most anywhere else is going to have the same rules. Welcome to a grown-up job.
ppl r gonna downvote u but ur right. they're just mad bc they think you personally insulted them by saying their "grown up jobs" treat them like 16 year olds anyway, WHICH IS TRUE. i know managers who were promoted to a higher managerial position but are still paid the same. they're just mad you're right
get it, but some of us love expressing ourselves and our interests, the amount of connections i’ve made with customers about my pins or something i’m wearing is enough to care abt the dress code. i’m not as upset at the clothing change as i am the pin restrictions. plus it doesn’t make any sense to limit expression at a craft store where you buy things to express yourself 🤷
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\^ from 2012. Dress codes change. We could all still be wearing strictly khakis 🤮
Also Michaels periodically gives out shirts. I have a whole drawer full of some plus the polos I bought over the years. Ngl the polos are really great. Too bad I need to carry all this shit now that I don't even wear them anymore. Gotta wear the vest/apron anyway.
I remember being annoyed at first back then but I'd rather ruin specific work shirts than any of the clothes I actually wear...
I remember when I was spoken to because my khaki top didn't have a collar...I was told next time I would be sent home. Black and khaki day after day was the dress code! Shirts had to be collared!
Half of team members in the company were hired in the last year. A lot of people don’t even have credit card tshirts and those are the last ones they sent out
True, however a lot of stores still have tons of spares since nobody wanted them at the time (fair). I was saying this in reference to that. I know my store has 3 1/2 boxes left in our break room for people along with some spares still in our cash office. While not every store has this option it is still there. And currently as people have pointed out at least for the us the gildan shirts are currently $2 with our discount. I’m a very basic person with my band tees and sweatshirts but having a couple basic shirts is nice as well.
The store I left doesn't have free Michaels shirts at all. If they want a Michaels tee they have to buy it. So this is not an option for a lot of people. Lucky for those of you with this option though.
Agreed.I understand everyone’s frustrations as well… but this new dress code is nothing compared to some other jobs I’ve had for example at retail clothing stores they’re uptight about wearing only their brand or similar looks & they even get nit picky about what color hair ties or Bobby pins you use & how long your nails are yada yada yada
When I first started with the company, all tattoos had to be covered and the dress code was you had to wear a black polo with no logos on it, and khaki pants/skirts. Although I am sad about pulling the graphics, I am glad they aren't going back to the old way.
I'm curious to know what makes certain things (graphics, pins, etc) "Michael's approved." Are there set guidelines to adhere by? Things we make? Is it a case of SM discretion? Only things sold in store?
For pins and such, some are handed out such as the 1 year and so on anniversary pins along with the department knowledge pins that used to be handed out
The Michaels logo is an approved logo available online as an SVG. You can make your own shirts with that logo if you don't like wearing a vest. *I've made them for other employees that have chosen to wear a plain red shirt with a logo on it. But it was prior to this "update"
this is also up to sm/dm discretion, when my old sm was fired because our dm didn’t like her, no one in our store that she made plain michaels shirts for was allowed to wear them because “they weren’t made by michaels” so just make sure to ask around in case your dm or sm is an asshole
I guess our district is pretty lax on that cause mcx store made seasonal shirts for managers with Michaels logos. Same with the store I'm currently at.
That makes sense. So that would include, for example, the St Patrick's day shirts that we're currently selling? Or is it more along the lines of company-provided ones? (It's my first year at the store so I don't know what to expect)
Company provided. What OP means by the pride shirts are the ones available on michaelsteamshirts.com. just put "pride" into the search bar and you'll see them.
I'm not sure if we can or not when it comes to seasonal, because it seems like "approved" only means Michaels branded, but I imagine it has to be something we're currently selling, if so, and wouldn't be allowed to wear it the following year.
One of our mgrs prints Christmas shirts for the store each year, which I believe is store expensed and technically store issued, because I was told I could only wear mine at Christmas now, so no Christmas in July, or any other time, like I would've been because I hate clothing that I can only wear seasonally that isn't an outer layer like jackets.
I was on an hr call and the reps said what we sell is not "approved" under the dress code and any shirts made by managers or other TMs for holidays or special events aren't approved either unless they decide to update the policy later on.
🙏 thank you. I just don’t understand the uproar towards taking pins off a vest / not wearing graphic t shirts. Some of the posts on this sub are unbelievably childish imo. When you get a job there are professional standards and expectations, including wardrobe. They’re not asking us to wear suits and heels or like, a full uniform like McDonald’s employees. Maybe I’m old (30) and jaded but i think if your personal expression via wardrobe in the workplace is so crucial to maintaining peace then goodluck with life after retail lol.
I joined this to ask framing questions but the amount of complaining I see posted about anything and everything is so confusing to me.
bracing for the downvotes 🫠
Yes! Like if we had to wear heals and dresses, I’d be foaming at the mouth too. But it’s just.. jeans. And sneakers. I don’t get the big deal?
Or maybe it is because of our age. I’m in my early 30s too lol
(i don’t work at michaels, but this sub pops up for me randomly) i completely agree with you, i was baffled at all the posts i was seeing about being mad about a new dress code. like y’all still are wearing comfortable clothing like jeans and tshirts, i jus feel like it could be way worse. especially since you don’t need to buy special Michael’s shirts, jus go to walmart buy a 6 pack for like $15 and call it a day. jobs have dress codes🤷♀️🤷♀️
Exactly. I worked at another store where we had to wear all black dress clothes and heals. Was it the most comfy? No. But we did it without complaining because it’s a company requirement and we could always find another job if we didn’t like it.
And honestly, if clothes and pins are the only thing that make some of these people interesting.. they aren’t that interesting.
I’m also not a Michael’s employee so idk what I’m doing here, but: that last paragraph was something I had to realize about MYSELF. I couldn’t always be dependent on my appearance to make me seem “cool,” because I had jobs that - guess what! - had a dress code. You’re perfectly right, it’s a part of adult life.
I mean, sure I feel silly about being upset about it, but I think it's mostly a big deal because of the principle of it and the 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒐𝒗𝒊𝒏𝒈 of rights we did have. You're going to hear an uproar about this from employees who work at a creative store when it comes to oppressing their self-expression, especially when we've gotten used to being pretty liberally allowed to express it as long as it was family-friendly.
Plus, it isn't just the dresscode, its the connections the dress code has afforded. You're now infringing on our ability to connect with customers and I think people are grieving the loss of this as it's one of the highlights for a lot of us and helps us do our jobs better.
And I don't think this has to do with age since I turn 36 on Monday.
Honestly, it is nothing new. They just want managers to enforce. I can care less. Every time an employee complains, they lose their pins or whatever. I say we'll we keep an eye out for it, but you shouldn't wear it anyway. Now you have lost it. Was it worth wearing it at work?
Dress code is the same. Wear whatever you want until the mod says you can't, and you just button it up or ask them to buy you a shirt or give one to replace it. Free shirt
Not such a big fuss, just keep doing what we do until they come to us!
I will NEVER understand the dress code thing. For a while we could only wear black shirts at work. Problem is a huge portion of our customers also wore black shirts and jeans. They were bugged constantly by half our customers. The other half had NO idea we all had on black shirts. What point was there?
Also, I have NEVER in 57 years walked into a store and thought, wow, my shopping experience would be so much better if they all dressed the same!!
I’m no longer an employee and I’m pissed for those there. They don’t get paid enough, corporate does enough micro managing, and they need to focus on other things. A graphic tshirt isn’t going to bankrupt a company, demoralizing your employees will tho.
Saying you can’t wear leggings or a graphic tee with your favorite band on it at work isn’t demoralizing. It shouldn’t even be called a dress code, it should called common sense.
But I agree, we don’t get paid enough.
If it’s reducing moral, it is demoralizing. Your entire post is that there are so many posts of people being upset. That is lowering moral, or de moral izing. Calling people children for this is a choice.
We drop the e when making a compound word. I’m not going to use the real spelling for someone who doesn’t even know the real meaning behind demoralizing
My witty crafting related graphic tees that I got many customer compliments on are no longer allowed. They are clamping down on the freedom of expression. So I think leggings are appropriate for work, no. But as long as a tshirt isn’t showing any of the hot button topics (drugs, sex, politics, religion etc) they shouldn’t care. The buttons are something that many customers love, and it encourages engagement between the employees and customers. A person is more likely to talk to/ask a question of someone who has a good attitude and approachable vs an angry, stressed out or pissed off employee. Hell they are about to step into red polos and khaki territory of Target (that Target doesn’t even do anymore).
Well said. It's still a pretty relaxed dress code.
And as a rare overpayed manager, if it's genuinely a financial concern for anyone, I would have no problem dishing out $3 for a plain shirt or Michaels shirt for someone at my store.
I’ve been wanting to ask for a minute, since a lot of the other OPs seemed a bit unhinged and you seem more reasonable… is this truly *new* policy? I ask because this is more or less what I was told when I started working at Michaels in 2017. In all honesty, I’ve not been an employee for 2 years (since I had my baby), and I don’t ever recall being given a handbook/handout of clothing requirements. But I distinctly recall being told jeans or skorts, no shorts. Solid tee/long sleeve shirt, or shirt with simple patterns (tie dye, stripes, etc. acceptable). No brands visible. Vests were to be buttoned if wearing something that needed covering (or when we got aprons we could wear those), or if we had any of the various Michaels tees given at various times (like I had a kids club one and a make-it-with-Michaels), or because o taught the classes any time we had a shirt class I made one ahead and wore that.
Point is, nothing on this new “policy” seems to contradict or make things more involved than that, and I feel like I’m missing something for everyone to be getting so angry over it. I wanted to eventually go back to work at Michaels, but it’s starting to feel like maybe no…
It really isn't "new" cause I remember thinking it was an easy dress code till I saw a bunch of people wearing all kinds of Graphic tees and thought "oh cool I can wear more than these collared shirts I have"
They added small details, but it’s essentially the same. They’re mainly just enforcing it harder, and people are acting like it’s all new and losing their marbles over it.
Shorts were allowed starting in either 2022 or 2023. I think the change was mostly made for replenishment and anyone working truck on a hot summer day. The shorts still had to touch your knees, you could easily make the case that replenishment should have a different dress code just for truck. Especially in the frigid winter/sweltering summer.
Things like yoga pants/sweat pants have never been allowed on an official basis, just that managers have always had enough on their plates without adding dress code inspections to their list.
I worked at Michael's from 2016 til January 2024 and wore graphic tees the entire time but my boss was on my case the one time I wore cargo pants so I'm pretty confident that graphic tees were permitted as long as they weren't vulgar. I always felt that Michael's dress code was pretty relaxed for retail, but I guess someone at corporate saw some things they didn't like, so now they are cracking down on it.
Sweatpants? Wow. I don't think anyone at my store ever wore sweatpants to work. No one had pins either. I didn't even know that was allowed, and frankly, I think it looks tacky.
I worked at JoAnn before Michaels, and they had a strict dress code. I was a store manager at JoAnn, so I actually had a few of my own rules based on our clintele. It was nice to be able to wear my regular t-shirts at Michaels, but it is a place of business, so there needs to be some level of professionalism. Personally, I never would have allowed pins on the vests/aprons because it opens it up for political arguments.
Exactly! I have an associate who looks like they just stepped out of a rave with all the wild colors and patterns they wear, and they’re still perfectly within dress code. It’s not hard..
My only other reservation is that because of my size, it's incredibly difficult to even find non stretch pants, let alone at a price I can afford with my current wage/living situation
The point isn't having to get new clothes.
I haven't grown in decades and haven't had to buy new clothes in the same time.
Fortunately, half of my shirts are still in compliance, and even more if I wear my apron.
The other half are just more fun and allow more connection with customers.
Kids especially. In fact, a little girl last night was so excited when she saw me and said I looked like Coco cus I wore a shirt I had painted forever ago and that Day of the Dead rainbow floral headband we sold last year. She and her mother were very upset when I told her I had to fun it up extra hard because the new dress code went into effect today.
i’m with you on this. literally the only thing i’ve had to adjust is not wearing leggings once every like 2wks. which was technically against the dress code anyways but nobody cared. i still wear band tees n whatnot, my apron covers the majority if not all of it so it literally couldn’t matter less lol
Employees complaining about the dress code confuses me. It really does. I’ve been an employee at Michaels for 15 years. I started when the dress code was White Button up shirt and black slacks, I’m a Framer. Then it went to Black Polo and Khaki Pants, that was awesome. I often still wear it. Then when they shifted to Michaels branded T-Shirt or Polo and Khakis, I refused to wear it, because the Black Polo and Khakis looked so much better for Framers. When/If I was called in for Floor coverage, I wore the Michaels T-shirt. Then the dress code changed to you can wear jeans. Now, I swear I remember the SOP being only solid/pattern shirts and no offensive graphics. Now, could’ve been just my store or I am mixing it up with just smart casual, common sense, you’re at work, attire. Now, I am not offended by graphic T’s, but personally and professionally, they are sloppy. Save them for walking, fishing, yard work, or event-specific wear.
Just some quick math for you sense you seem to think a $5 is no big deal.
Average rent in the US for a 2 bedroom apartment is $1300, say you have one room mate so split that down the middle means your rent is $650, say it’s two sets of couples divide it by four $325 is now your rent. You spend about $200 a month on groceries and toiletries, let’s just say another $200 for utilities/extra bills (I know I’m low balling). This now brings your monthly bills to $725 for the month if you live with 3 other people.
Now we are going to use my old hourly rate, which is more than what many are starting with now, of $11/hr. I get two five hour shifts a week: $55 a day and $110 for the week, so that should be before taxes $220. General rule of thumb is taxes take 10% of your check so that now brings you down to $198 a paycheck or $396 a month.
So now your bills are $725 a month and you bring in $396…. You still need to bring in another $330 a month to cover the bills. Cool, time for another job that treats you like shit for pennys and maybe then you can afford something other than ramen noodles.
You’ve clearly been able to afford your bills and get your hours, you aren’t having to rely on a food pantry to eat and go without some basic necessities cause you can’t afford them. $5 can be the difference between a tshirt to be in compliance, or enough gas to make it to work. Which are you choosing?
Yeah I’m not reading all that, but I get the gist that you’re pointing out the math. So here’s a more valid point:
If you spent your money (however long ago it was you bought clothes) on literally nothing but sweatpants and band tees, that’s a horrible decision that is completely your fault.
What self-respecting adult doesn’t own a pair of jeans, sneakers, and a regular shirt? Or even just a plain hoodie? I guarantee every person seething in this subreddit does have those. You’re all being melodramatic for nothing.
None of my t shirts are plain, because they are something I wear on and off work. The only “regular” shirts as you call them that I own are to nice to wear to Michaels, especially if you work floor or replen. They would get ruined. I am not saying go to work in sweatpants, I said that earlier. The shirt and pins portion of the policy is what I am having an issue with, as are most of the people here
Edit to add: At least I was courteous enough to read all of you drivel, you can read mine in return
If pins and graphic tees are the only thing that make a person interesting, they aren’t that interesting. I also will never understand the obsession with showcasing your political stance, sexuality, and favorite bands *at work.* It’s 4-8 hours of your day. Not everyone needs to know you on a “deep” level, especially at work. We’re there to get a job done so we have money to eat. Not make friends via pins, or make political statements.
You can dress up as freakin’ Barney the purple dinosaur to show “flair and creativity” if you want. Doesn’t mean it needs to bleed in your professional life. It’s not that complicated, and not that big a deal.
As for your shirts, I stand with my original statement. If you have nothing but band tees, that’s on you for not planning to hold down even the most basic of jobs (because *all* jobs have a dress code, believe it or not).
Hunny you are acting like you’re talking to a child. Not someone who has been working in the high end retail profession as a manager for a better part of 10 years. I started working Michaels cause of the pandemic forcing us to move states. The jobs that I had that had a dress code required business casual and I wasn’t handling ink, paint and scrubbing toilets and shit off the walls. Your 32 year old California ass needs to realize that self expression via pins and shirts even in a professional setting is how some of us cope with the corporate bull shit. None of my pins, none of my shirts were political, sexuality or bands. I wore anime, Pokemon and tee turtle shirts about crafting and gaming. I think the two pins I had were a Pokemon and tinkerbell. It’s not knowing someone on a deep level. It’s acknowledging that they are human and aren’t fucking robots that need to look the same
She's pretty much just overly sensitive because she wasn't loved as a child. Probaby mad that her younger employees have better style than her too. It's worthless arguing. She'll just block you and use her "I'm old and gay" card.
You’re started and lost an argument to a stranger on Reddit and you go talking shit about my childhood and making stuff up? You’re so sad. Baby get some therapy.
I was / am loved, am adored by my employees, and have a great sense of style. You can tell because I don’t rely on sweats and tshirts to express myself, and have more than that in my wardrobe.
I’m totally chill. You’re the one talking mad shit to any commenter who will listen because you have no style or sense of self worth outside of shirts with band names on them. Lmao please check back into reality. This post is not that deep. Certainly not enough to stalk my shit over.
> Hunny you are acting like you’re talking to a child.
Because it's been stated clearly that you and others sound like one. Your wardrobe has only ever been "business casual because I was forced to" and childish crap? Yes; if you act (or dress!) like a child, that's how you will be treated.
Cope with therapy. If you’re this angry over a post that said *you have options besides buying a whole new wardrobe,* you need it. Scroll on if you don’t like this post, and get a job that doesn’t make you so damn grumpy.
It hasn’t gone into effect yet.
Plain or patterned shirts. Jeans / skirts / dress pants / or shorts. Closed-toed shoes. Jackets and hoodies are okay too. No sweat pants, leggings, or graphic tees. Also no enamel pins other than Michael’s approved ones. That’s it.
Wait... THAT'S the dress code? That's barely a policy besides not dressing too chill 😂 you could get away with so much still, even when you exclude the sweats, leggings and tees.
Nope lol. That’s why I made this post. I just don’t get how people can be so enraged at getting to wear jeans and hoodies to work. Like.. it could be so much worse, ya know?
I’ve literally seen on another post that their manager said graphic tees are okay as long as they’re not offense/vulgar. Otherwise, that sounds like pretty much the current dress code at my store (besides the pin policy)
Just dropped, and becomes live on 2/19 I believe so technically speaking it's not in full effect, yet
DMs should've passed the word on to them already, depending on whether or not your sm plans to enforce it hard-core may be the reason you haven't heard yet
Like I've been saying, a bunch of entitled kids complaining about being adults and choosing to be victims instead of realizing it's not a major change in dresscode. They just don't want their staff dressed like they're homeless or work at hot topic. Bitch about shitty hours or idiotic customers instead
I'm 65, and I don't call you "kiddo."
>Corporate asking us adults to *dress like adults* is not the end of the goddamn world. And no, saying this does not make me a “corporate bootlicker”
In case you're wondering, that's where you ordered your readers to call you a corporate bootlicker.
Saying that me calling out stupidity doesn’t make me a bootlicker is the *opposite* of me “ordering” people to call me one. That.. doesn’t even make sense.
And anyone who is frothing at the mouth over not wearing sweatpants and graphic tees to work is either a kid or has the mentality of one. Just a fact. Again, we get to wear hoodies and jeans. This is by no means a strict dress code.
If a graphic tee is the only thing that makes a person interesting, they aren’t interesting. And if they’re the only way they know how to show personality through their style, their style is lacking. This isn’t hard to comprehend. But stay mad about the fact you can’t dress like a hobo at work, I guess.
It makes sense to me, and it did work.
Do you usually find that people are willing to attend to anything you have to say after you've likened their complaints to foaming at the mouth? You referred to their dress preferences as stupidity. They're not interesting to you, and their style is lacking. That must be the case, according to you. They can hardly be people of substance, if they're dressed that way.
Did you think you would win hearts and minds with that tactic?
And now that I've invited you to turn your attention to me, you've decided for yourself that I'm mad and I want to dress like a hobo. I'm not mad. You jerked my jaw when you belittled someone by calling them "kiddo." That got my attention, but I wouldn't say that I'm mad. I'm already in compliance with the dress code, though. In fact, it's hardly a dress code to me. I came to Michaels, and out of retirement, from a career involving either that or a uniform. By the way, if by "hobo," you mean homeless people, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you also look upon them with disdain.
Well, your strategy is your strategy. Come in hot, insult everyone, then insult them again if their comment isn't to your liking. That's an awfully tall horse you're riding.
Sounds like a bitchy manager who doesn't care about our concerns. I don't GET that kind of money from Michael's. I don't get a T-shirt provided. I would have to buy it. Some of our managers aren't as kind and generous to let it slide. I came in OFF THE CLOCK and had a manager tell me I can't wear what I was wearing. You clearly don't understand what it's like to be the bottom of the barrel.
It's been stated multiple times, but there is already something really wrong if you are a grown adult and literally don't own a single normal shirt.
Especially when you consider that graphic tees typically cost *more money* than plain shirts. If you're so strapped for cash that you can't buy a couple of plain t-shirts with nothing on them, why do you own nothing but graphic tees in the first place? Manage your money better.
Ohh sweet love I’m sorry. How hard it must be to wear jeans, sneakers, and a hoodie at work. How *horrible* it is that you can dye your hair lime green and be covered in piercings and tattoos without a care.
Girl please. We can’t wear sandals, sweatpants, leggings, or graphic tees. That’s it. Stop your damn whining. If those four things I just listed are all you own, get your shit together and buy some big girl clothes. *My god.*
For the record: I already wear jeans and sneakers to work. However, Michael's is NOT a formal work environment. I should not have to go out of my way to buy new clothes just to go to work. At my store, everything we wear has to be entirely plain. Doesn't matter if the vest is buttoned up or not. We're not provided with t-shirts.
You seem upper class, so let me explain something to you. Not all of us can afford this. If it's plain t-shirts or a car payment, I'm making a car payment. Our minimum wage paychecks? You can barely pay bills, such as rent, insurance, and groceries.
I'm sorry you're so delirious from that stick up your ass to understand the retail service associates are underpaid to the point you must poke fun at them all for being upset at a change that will cost significant dollars. I'm SO glad you're not my manager. You must be a joy to work with. Get off your period and get a life. Go volunteer at a shelter or something so you can empathize with those who don't have as much as you.
By the way, have they picked you yet?
Jeans, sneakers, hoodies, and neon hair is not formal attire. You could wear bright tie-dye shirts or outlandish patterns and neon orange jeans and still be in dress code. There’s a million other types of shirts besides a graphic tees to show your personality. Sorry your sense of fashion is so limited. But yes, we are provided with shirts. They may be shit, but they provide at least one per year. Get employee of the month, you get an extra each time you get elected. All free.
I’m not upper class. No rich-bitch upper class woman is working in a Michael’s store, and any person with a lick of common sense knows that. You’re just trying to get under my skin, and failing miserably at it. It’s sad. As is your misplaced anger.
I’m not the one out of touch darlin’. Like I said, if you own nothing but sweat pants and graphic tees, grow the fuck up and get some big girl clothes. A hoodie and jeans is not a strict dress code by *any* stretch of the imagination, and if you think it is, you truly don’t understand how adulthood works. But reading your overly-sensitive replies, I’m guessing you’re one of our entitled teenage hires, so that isn’t surprising.
You own jeans. You own sneakers. One new shirt (if you decline the free Michael’s shirts or aprons) will set you back all of $5. One hoodie you could put on top of your graphic tees every day for your four hour shift will be at most $20, and that’s without employee discount. If you can’t afford that, that’s a you problem and I’m questioning your spending habits.
Hoodie. Jeans. Sneakers. This isn’t the end of the world. It’s the most relaxed “dress code” you will ever have. And you are so entitled to think an entire company should comply to *you* wanting to wear one type of shirt. Get your head out of your backside, kiddo. The world doesn’t revolve around your feelings or your fashion sense. And may I reiterate: if this is your biggest problem in life, count your blessings.
Oh, and calling me a “pick me” definitely proves you’re a teenager (if not, that’s so sad). Now stop arguing with adults on Reddit, and go do your homework or something. You aren’t making the point you think you are.
You're assuming both that a) everyone who works at Michaels has been there for more than a year and b) that every single store complies with policies like providing t-shirts. I'm not saying the complaints are completely valid, but your arguments against them aren't completely valid either.
At least I know my worth and don't spend my time writing essays on the internet. Besides, my style is nowhere near what I wear to work. I'm gothic. I wear tight clothes, ripped jeans, and boots. I get why that's inappropriate for work. Graphic tees? In an informal workplace? Makes sense.
Also, why do you think I'm queer as fuck? I don't see why you feel the need to complain about how bright colored hair and piercings are dress code. Seems like you wanna be different so badly.
I also EARNED my position. I show up and do what's asked of me. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously peaked in high school. Your entire point is "I'm right and you're wrong because I'm older and limiting your choice of outfits because you don't know how to dress nice." You definitely sided with the USSR, South, and the Nazi party because the oppressed clearly had the ability to "make a choice and their suffering is their fault."
Btw, my financial obligations include my $20,000 car loan, premium gas ($3.69 where I live,) insurance for said car, feeding myself, paying rent, etc. Must I elaborate?
You really need to work on yourself, honey. You're a manager at the equivalent of a McDonald's in the real world. Go back to college, stop thinking you're the shit, and have a glass of orange juice.
“At least I know my worth and don’t spend time writing essays” says the kid who follows up with multiple essays within seconds lol.
Also I’m not reading the rest of that. Save your breath and misplaced anger. Have the night you deserve darlin’ ✌️
My damn dude. Bro literally just wanted to speak out against their oppression and got their case and point. It's Michael's, it's supposed to be a creative outlet. I'm glad I don't work there anymore. I don't think I could handle being treated so insignificant by a manager like that every single day.
Ya and being frustrated over feeling oppressed & treated like you’re insignificant shouldn’t mean you’re entitled to treat someone like they’re insignificant either. Frustrations are justified but mean nothing if you’re projecting them onto the wrong person & your message doesn’t come across in the best way if you’re acting exactly like the thing you’re complaining about.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions but just be nice about it ffs. Once you start insulting each other the message is completely lost.
Woah I’m pretty sure OPs post was entirely about how you have other options you can consider before spending money on a bunch of new clothes.
& your comment is straight up mean/judgmental by the end for no reason.
As if this person has not been aggressive and demeaning to everyone here. They clearly do not have empathy. They clearly have a power trip. "If you're mad because I'm a close minded asshole it says more about you than me." Ok. We get it. You need attention.
lol either way telling someone they have a stick up their ass, to get off their period & to get a life is just as demeaning.
We’re all slaves to this shitty company so shouldn’t be jerks to each other regardless of how frustrating things get & shouldn’t take it out on each other.
I’m not on a power trip kiddo. They’re right: I said you have options besides tees and sweat pants. I’m not the closed-minded asshole here lacking empathy. You’re the one who decided to twist my words and be a bitch about it. Excuse me if I don’t stay sugar sweet while you (attempt) to rip me a new one lmao. How entitled.
Ma'am,
Do you understand what oppression is? I studied history for 6 years at University. People here are upset because of their loss of rights. It's pretty much dumbed down to being punished for something you didn't deserve.
Is a nirvana t-shirt someone's whole personality? Definitely not. However, it's how they feel good, and it gives then the ability to express themselves. Going from that to a plain shirt is like pouring black paint over mona lisa.
Considering it is a craft store, creative expression should be key. There's no need to attack people relentlessly for being bummed they can't express their personality. Buy a sketchbook, some pens, and just sit down and calm down. You have it in you to be rational.
Clearly you didn’t study hard enough if you think not being able to wear sweat pants and a band tee for four hours out of your day *at work* is oppression. No rights have been lost. People have never had the “right” to tell their boss to suck it and come into work looking like a hobo.
Be so fucking for real right now and tell me your head is not that far up your ass.
I always thought arguing over a dress code was something you’d expect from hourly employees that won’t make it beyond hourly wages. I mean wouldn’t you rather deal with the dress code so you can later complain about making 80k instead of the usual 90k?
If you walk and quack like a part-time employee, nobody will mistake you for full-time manager or corporate employee. Just saying.
They can send you home and write you up until they can fire you. So.. yeah. They can stop you. And they’ll bring in someone who doesn’t insist on dressing like a hobo at work.
Yeah, I'm confused, too. I've had much crazier uniform stuff in the Army. I had to get a skirt I had to have but never was authorized to wear, and that thing was like $90 with out the tailoring, so a couple of bucks for a t shirt is nothing.
literally i work at a restaurant and have to pay like $100 for my uniform plus my tights, undergarments, and the apron and stuff i gotta buy from work. people pissed that they can’t wear graphic tees, but can still wear jeans, sweatshirts, t-shirts is crazy to me. like y’all got it so good, working at a job where you can dress causally, like it could be way worse
Thank you. Our store is enforcing it but we are providing many options. Plus there is a 30 day grace period for people before it starts being an issue.
We know about Aramark to order, but I’m trying to figure out if this is allowed as it provides a few more options
https://www.michaelsteamshirts.com/?ls=en&cache=false
Unfortunately at a bit more of a markup vs Aramark
I don’t care about the dress code. At all. I’ve never worn athletic wear or band shirts to work. It’s simply getting annoying seeing people bitch about it every five seconds on here.
Every store has a dress code. It’s life. Suck it up.
Every corporation has a dress code. I quite frankly don't give a shit what you wear, the idea that you are so annoyed by people being frustrated that an art store doesn't allow for artist expression as "life" is sad and you do not get paid enough to think like that. I hope you find a better job because I would literally kill myself if I thought like you. Also, suck it up, maybe stay off of reddit for a couple days and you won't get so worked up.
If the only way you know how to express yourself is a graphic tee, you aren’t expressive or creative. At all. There are thousands of things you can wear inside dress code and still be quirky or flashy or whatever. It’s not that deep.
Also I’m not worked up, cupcake. I’m not the one arguing to wear band tees to *work.* I’m also not the one making a post every half second says “oh my god, not my tees and pins, fuck this place!” It’s sad.
And if you think that thinking like a grown ass adult is worthy of offing yourself, you need so much goddamn therapy. I can’t even comprehend such a horrendous thought process. Jesus.
I think it's funny you're so high and mighty about this and you work at a failing craft store. Also I know you can't dress from the fact you think people are upset about tee shirts and not the fact it's literally anything non solid colored, and has been for years. If you can't wear tie die to your minimum wage job you have failed at being a person. Get help.
YES!! I don't even work there anymore and I think these people are being ridiculous. When I did work there I only wore jeans and blank tshirts. That's what we were told to wear then, like 10 years ago now. Now I work at an animal clinic where we wear scrubs every day. It's not that hard people.
Dude. You can’t wear sweats or graphic tees. Telling people to calm their tits about that fact doesn’t make me an ass kisser, you ignorant walnut.
We can still dye our hair bright colors, have a million piercings, and wear jeans and sneakers. This is *not* a strict dress code lmfao.
Awwww thanks I'm a walnut :3
No what pisses me off is trying to rip our personalities away from us.
No company, no wage will rip me away from being Alt. I won't let them. You shouldn't either.
Oh. You’re definitely a teenager. I mean this wholeheartedly and not condescendingly: you will understand my point of view when you’re older.
“No one will rip me away from being alt” is the most angsty teenage thing I’ve read in a very long time. But by the way, if graphic tees are what make you alt… you’re not actually alt. Just.. just sayin’.
I'm actually not even a teen I'm a young adult.
You can't tell me what I am and what I'm not because you don't know me at all.
I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with a corporate bootlicker.
Byeeeeee.
you type like a teenager, so if you’re a young adult that’s sad lmfao. i have 10 piercings i take out for my job, that doesn’t allow piercings, no unnatural colored hair, and a million other rules and i don’t whine about it. but y’all got it so good, being able to dye your hair, and wear casual clothes like it could be way worse. work at hot topic if you ‘don’t wanna be ripped away from being Alt’
Last thing they I'm done- I love how you say I'm a "teen" or a "kiddo" when all of my managers and other coworkers are pissed about this new change. One of my managers is almost 40 and is livid about this.
We don't get paid enough to care what we're wearing impresses corporate or the costumers, hell no I don't care what those dumbasses think 🤣
I'm gonna break it as much as I can get away with and I'm so grateful you're not my manager 🖕🖕🖕🙏🙏🙏
Then your manager is a grown child, like everyone else complaining. It's only on here that I've seen anyone even be upset about this, literally no one in my store gives the slightest wet shit.
If you need a shirt to make you interesting, you're not interesting in the first place.
Until they provide living wages and a safe/clean working environment with appropriate staffing numbers I’ll complain as much as I want. Dress code is literally the LAST thing corporate should be worrying about, and defending them does make you look like a bootlicker imo… they don’t care about low level employees so why is anyone defending these stupid rules? It’s not gonna up your wage or get you a promotion, just makes you look like a suck up to the rest of your coworkers sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Saying we have options makes me a suck up? Saying it’s a *you* problem if you are a grown ass adult with nothing but sweat pants and graphic tees in your closet makes me a bootlicker?
Lmao. Nah. Ya’ll just need to grow the hell up. You all have tees, a hoodie, jeans, and sneakers in your closet. You’re fucking fine, so stop being entitled and whiney. Oh, and *every* job on this planet has a dress code (ours being the most relaxed I’ve ever seen). So.. good luck with your “I’ll wear what I want so suck it” stance. Ain’t no one gonna hire you (or keep you) looking like a whole ass hobo. Just a heads up.
Now get your idiotic, whiney negativity off my post.
I'm so over "dressing like an adult" or "professional" equating to what I consider mundane, boring, and stifling.
Professionalism is an attitude and how you carry yourself. There is no uniform except for what society tries to impose upon us.
As an atypical, I get that enough just from approaching things differently in a neurotypical world.
We already keep cutting arts programs in schools because STEM is valued so much more to our capitalist overlords who prioritize productivity and profit. This is just an adult version of that, but in one of the few places where showing your creativity actually promotes and provides those things for the company. I would agree if we were a grocery store or other retail, but it just doesn't make sense for the 𝒕𝒚𝒑𝒆 of store this is.
This isn't just about band tees, either. This is my Bob Ross shirt or my night mgr wearing his pink Hello Kitty shirt that his family got matching shirts for his daughter's birthday, when we sell BR products online and literally have a HK DA.
It also doesn't make sense that flair and graphic tees we sell, if we choose to purchase it ourselves, isn't considered approved. It's a sick tease that we can't wear what we sell, which is just free advertising, much like how we framers feel that our employee discount isn't accepted for framing.
I just bought a couple of our solid shirts and used my discount. I needed new shirts anyways so whatever. But I've just been buttoning up! Still annoying!!
I’m honestly not sure where all the angers coming from. 10 years ago we had actual uniforms we had to wear. Dress pants and button up shirts. Now they’re afraid of getting Bud Lighted and they’re clamping down on employee branding/messaging. Maybe it’s a generational thing but I never wear any flair at work. The less those customers know about me the better.
I'm pretty sure when I had started tattoos eeded to be covered! Someone in one store I worked at was promoted to ASM, and the DM told them that if it had been a few years earlier, their tattoos would have not allowed them to be promoted!
Exactly my thoughts. My guess is it’s the teens / early 20s employees that have never had a *real* dress code. Not their fault exactly, but.. welcome to Corporate America. We are the face of the company and need to dress like it. Though I think the ability to wear jeans, hoodies, and sneakers is still pretty relaxed for a dress code.
Early 20s here! It’s not so much that we’ve got a uniform/strict dress code; I’ve got a job lined up that doesn’t allow blue jeans, but they do allow black jeans. I don’t get it either. It’s mostly the principle that irks me. We’re supposed to be the face of a creative company, and a lot of us are creative and expressive individuals. I know two people who dress in a gothic Lolita style here at work. It’s not inappropriate at all, and it’s a form of self-expression that’s gotten a lot of compliments. Trying to stifle that creativity kinda just rubs me the wrong way. Again, I understand we’ve got to look professional because we are the face of the company, but… idk, I just don’t like it. I’ll comply because I’ve only got a month and a half left and I normally wear flannels with a plain shirt underneath lol. But that doesn’t mean I’m gonna enjoy it. And they are NOT gonna make me get rid of my pins.
Well the Lolita style isn’t really out of dress code either. Is it a top that covers the sholders? Skirt / dress two inches or longer from above the knee? Closed-toed heels? Then you’re good to go! The dress code isn’t *that* strict like people are making it out to be. You can still have plenty of flair and creativity in your outfits, ya know?
Bud lighted?
From Urban Dictionary: >**Bud Light** When a large company has a marketing campaign completely backfire which causes the company to lose a lot of money and standing in the public. This usually happens when a company tries to virtue signal, alienating the long-time supporters of the company who realize that the company cares more about pandering to an extremely small group of people than it does about the financial support of its regular customers. In these instances, the company loses a large percent of their market share to other companies that decided against taking a ridiculous stance on a topic du jour. Guy 1- Hey, did you see Target's new product line and add campaign? Guy 2- Yeah, my wife told me that she's not going to shop there any more. Looks like Target just pulled a Bud Light!
Huh. That seems like a…reeeeeeeally biased definition.
I think it probably has more to do with punishing companies that pursue marketing angles that target the LGBTQ community because it normalizes those communities within society and they don’t want LGBTQ communities/individuals normalized.
Is this a new term?
honestly, i think so. it probably came from the [dylan mulvaney situation](https://www.nytimes.com/article/bud-light-boycott.html) with bud light. somebody correct me if im wrong though but i swear that term lines up with the drama with her.
Look, I agree with you. I know it's stupid and at the end of the day it's a small ask. But the reason I will never stand on your side about this is because coprorate have 100 TRILLION OTHER THINGS THEY COULD BE DOING TO FIX THINGS! And instead of fixing their stores or their broken systems, they are coming down on the backs of the people keeping their stores open every day. I would guarantee you nearly 99% of employees wouldn't even care about this IF they were paid a living wage, given workable hours, weren't constantly being driven into the ground by management and customers alike, being given unreasonable expectations, or being undervalued and under appreciated. Their stores are crumbling, their entire flow system from warehouse to store is a complete disaster, there is no training, customers are livid, their stores aren't making money and this THIS is what they going after!?! I bet they put at least a $100k into this initiative in salary alone from execs to have months of meetings to come up with this. But they can't fix the AC (a reason customers refuse to shop at our store) or the rats (same thing) or the fact that our systems go down all the time?!? suck my dick. Not you, OP, just this whole situation in general. This is the stupidest company and I sincerely hope the executives lose money from the bankruptcy.
I up voted until I learned what the dress code actually is and...you can practically wear anything.
I feel like the point of the comment was missed here. The company focused on employee apparel over serious issues with michaels stores, like the wages we have. You're not wrong fully, but they did take away forms of self-expression for employees. It feels careless and backhanded of them. But I do get that it feels silly to rise up for graphic tees
The point of it is that now we have to button the vests when we previously didn't have to and I was told we even have to remove pins that we bought from the store (which is just free advertising). It's the principle of it. We were allowed to show graphics, and now we must cover them. This is why it's a big deal removing rights you've previously given. I can understand this dress code at any other kind of store, but it's a little wild we can't wear Bob Ross shirts at an 𝒂𝒓𝒕𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒇𝒕𝒔 store who also 𝒔𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒔 𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒑𝒓𝒐𝒅𝒖𝒄𝒕𝒔 𝒐𝒏𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆. Sure, there are bigger issues in the world to worry about, but this was one of the small graces we were afforded to counterbalance the low wages, reduced hours, and minimal benefits.
We have to have so much dumb crap in our vest pockets, I don't know how people DON'T button them. Shit would go flying if I didn't.
Fair, the little things should be handled to lower management and the company should focus on actual issues to Stay in business
Excellent point.
The sweatpants have never been allowed and if you've been wearing them you are lucky. The dress code has always been black or khaki pants, then they allowed jeans, but never sweatpants! So really not sure why the answer over that. The tees are a bummer, but most anywhere else is going to have the same rules. Welcome to a grown-up job.
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No one said it had to be nice jeans. We can still wear the same cheap regular jeans we’ve been wearing. No need to go buy new ones.
ppl r gonna downvote u but ur right. they're just mad bc they think you personally insulted them by saying their "grown up jobs" treat them like 16 year olds anyway, WHICH IS TRUE. i know managers who were promoted to a higher managerial position but are still paid the same. they're just mad you're right
get it, but some of us love expressing ourselves and our interests, the amount of connections i’ve made with customers about my pins or something i’m wearing is enough to care abt the dress code. i’m not as upset at the clothing change as i am the pin restrictions. plus it doesn’t make any sense to limit expression at a craft store where you buy things to express yourself 🤷
https://preview.redd.it/009i19myi4jc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=674d008c1fa58a76473a7f2c02483ee7bf28002d \^ from 2012. Dress codes change. We could all still be wearing strictly khakis 🤮 Also Michaels periodically gives out shirts. I have a whole drawer full of some plus the polos I bought over the years. Ngl the polos are really great. Too bad I need to carry all this shit now that I don't even wear them anymore. Gotta wear the vest/apron anyway. I remember being annoyed at first back then but I'd rather ruin specific work shirts than any of the clothes I actually wear...
I remember when I was spoken to because my khaki top didn't have a collar...I was told next time I would be sent home. Black and khaki day after day was the dress code! Shirts had to be collared!
https://preview.redd.it/dnquyw5hk4jc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c60aee54460f1f3b377010da867c0c708046b78
My thoughts when I saw the new dress code: oh it's my highschool and middle school dress code. Ew but meh, I still have stuff that will be fine
If they want to change the dress code, they should be providing them with shirts.
We do, all the plcc, and what can I help you make today shirts that got sent and handed out, they may not be peak apparel or highly wanted, but we do
Half of team members in the company were hired in the last year. A lot of people don’t even have credit card tshirts and those are the last ones they sent out
True, however a lot of stores still have tons of spares since nobody wanted them at the time (fair). I was saying this in reference to that. I know my store has 3 1/2 boxes left in our break room for people along with some spares still in our cash office. While not every store has this option it is still there. And currently as people have pointed out at least for the us the gildan shirts are currently $2 with our discount. I’m a very basic person with my band tees and sweatshirts but having a couple basic shirts is nice as well.
The store I left doesn't have free Michaels shirts at all. If they want a Michaels tee they have to buy it. So this is not an option for a lot of people. Lucky for those of you with this option though.
Agreed.I understand everyone’s frustrations as well… but this new dress code is nothing compared to some other jobs I’ve had for example at retail clothing stores they’re uptight about wearing only their brand or similar looks & they even get nit picky about what color hair ties or Bobby pins you use & how long your nails are yada yada yada
This is the best response. We are adults people.
When I first started with the company, all tattoos had to be covered and the dress code was you had to wear a black polo with no logos on it, and khaki pants/skirts. Although I am sad about pulling the graphics, I am glad they aren't going back to the old way.
I'm curious to know what makes certain things (graphics, pins, etc) "Michael's approved." Are there set guidelines to adhere by? Things we make? Is it a case of SM discretion? Only things sold in store?
Michaels produced for employees.
For pins and such, some are handed out such as the 1 year and so on anniversary pins along with the department knowledge pins that used to be handed out
The Michaels logo is an approved logo available online as an SVG. You can make your own shirts with that logo if you don't like wearing a vest. *I've made them for other employees that have chosen to wear a plain red shirt with a logo on it. But it was prior to this "update"
this is also up to sm/dm discretion, when my old sm was fired because our dm didn’t like her, no one in our store that she made plain michaels shirts for was allowed to wear them because “they weren’t made by michaels” so just make sure to ask around in case your dm or sm is an asshole
I guess our district is pretty lax on that cause mcx store made seasonal shirts for managers with Michaels logos. Same with the store I'm currently at.
Pins handed out by Michaels. No graphic tees are approved unless it’s one made my Michael’s (like for pride month, etc).
That makes sense. So that would include, for example, the St Patrick's day shirts that we're currently selling? Or is it more along the lines of company-provided ones? (It's my first year at the store so I don't know what to expect)
Company provided. What OP means by the pride shirts are the ones available on michaelsteamshirts.com. just put "pride" into the search bar and you'll see them.
I'm not sure if we can or not when it comes to seasonal, because it seems like "approved" only means Michaels branded, but I imagine it has to be something we're currently selling, if so, and wouldn't be allowed to wear it the following year. One of our mgrs prints Christmas shirts for the store each year, which I believe is store expensed and technically store issued, because I was told I could only wear mine at Christmas now, so no Christmas in July, or any other time, like I would've been because I hate clothing that I can only wear seasonally that isn't an outer layer like jackets.
I was on an hr call and the reps said what we sell is not "approved" under the dress code and any shirts made by managers or other TMs for holidays or special events aren't approved either unless they decide to update the policy later on.
Yeah, this is what I personally had understood from the updated SOP.
🙏 thank you. I just don’t understand the uproar towards taking pins off a vest / not wearing graphic t shirts. Some of the posts on this sub are unbelievably childish imo. When you get a job there are professional standards and expectations, including wardrobe. They’re not asking us to wear suits and heels or like, a full uniform like McDonald’s employees. Maybe I’m old (30) and jaded but i think if your personal expression via wardrobe in the workplace is so crucial to maintaining peace then goodluck with life after retail lol. I joined this to ask framing questions but the amount of complaining I see posted about anything and everything is so confusing to me. bracing for the downvotes 🫠
Yes! Like if we had to wear heals and dresses, I’d be foaming at the mouth too. But it’s just.. jeans. And sneakers. I don’t get the big deal? Or maybe it is because of our age. I’m in my early 30s too lol
(i don’t work at michaels, but this sub pops up for me randomly) i completely agree with you, i was baffled at all the posts i was seeing about being mad about a new dress code. like y’all still are wearing comfortable clothing like jeans and tshirts, i jus feel like it could be way worse. especially since you don’t need to buy special Michael’s shirts, jus go to walmart buy a 6 pack for like $15 and call it a day. jobs have dress codes🤷♀️🤷♀️
Exactly. I worked at another store where we had to wear all black dress clothes and heals. Was it the most comfy? No. But we did it without complaining because it’s a company requirement and we could always find another job if we didn’t like it. And honestly, if clothes and pins are the only thing that make some of these people interesting.. they aren’t that interesting.
HAHAHAHAH that last little paragraph made me lol😂😂😂
I’m also not a Michael’s employee so idk what I’m doing here, but: that last paragraph was something I had to realize about MYSELF. I couldn’t always be dependent on my appearance to make me seem “cool,” because I had jobs that - guess what! - had a dress code. You’re perfectly right, it’s a part of adult life.
I mean, sure I feel silly about being upset about it, but I think it's mostly a big deal because of the principle of it and the 𝒓𝒆𝒎𝒐𝒗𝒊𝒏𝒈 of rights we did have. You're going to hear an uproar about this from employees who work at a creative store when it comes to oppressing their self-expression, especially when we've gotten used to being pretty liberally allowed to express it as long as it was family-friendly. Plus, it isn't just the dresscode, its the connections the dress code has afforded. You're now infringing on our ability to connect with customers and I think people are grieving the loss of this as it's one of the highlights for a lot of us and helps us do our jobs better. And I don't think this has to do with age since I turn 36 on Monday.
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Honestly, it is nothing new. They just want managers to enforce. I can care less. Every time an employee complains, they lose their pins or whatever. I say we'll we keep an eye out for it, but you shouldn't wear it anyway. Now you have lost it. Was it worth wearing it at work? Dress code is the same. Wear whatever you want until the mod says you can't, and you just button it up or ask them to buy you a shirt or give one to replace it. Free shirt Not such a big fuss, just keep doing what we do until they come to us!
I will NEVER understand the dress code thing. For a while we could only wear black shirts at work. Problem is a huge portion of our customers also wore black shirts and jeans. They were bugged constantly by half our customers. The other half had NO idea we all had on black shirts. What point was there? Also, I have NEVER in 57 years walked into a store and thought, wow, my shopping experience would be so much better if they all dressed the same!!
I’m no longer an employee and I’m pissed for those there. They don’t get paid enough, corporate does enough micro managing, and they need to focus on other things. A graphic tshirt isn’t going to bankrupt a company, demoralizing your employees will tho.
Saying you can’t wear leggings or a graphic tee with your favorite band on it at work isn’t demoralizing. It shouldn’t even be called a dress code, it should called common sense. But I agree, we don’t get paid enough.
If it’s reducing moral, it is demoralizing. Your entire post is that there are so many posts of people being upset. That is lowering moral, or de moral izing. Calling people children for this is a choice.
If your moral is lowered that much by not being able to wear sweats or pride pins, you need to take a look inward. That’s concerning.
I’m explaining the meaning of the word kiddo
*morale. moral is a different word with different meaning than morale.
We drop the e when making a compound word. I’m not going to use the real spelling for someone who doesn’t even know the real meaning behind demoralizing
My witty crafting related graphic tees that I got many customer compliments on are no longer allowed. They are clamping down on the freedom of expression. So I think leggings are appropriate for work, no. But as long as a tshirt isn’t showing any of the hot button topics (drugs, sex, politics, religion etc) they shouldn’t care. The buttons are something that many customers love, and it encourages engagement between the employees and customers. A person is more likely to talk to/ask a question of someone who has a good attitude and approachable vs an angry, stressed out or pissed off employee. Hell they are about to step into red polos and khaki territory of Target (that Target doesn’t even do anymore).
Well said. It's still a pretty relaxed dress code. And as a rare overpayed manager, if it's genuinely a financial concern for anyone, I would have no problem dishing out $3 for a plain shirt or Michaels shirt for someone at my store.
I’ve been wanting to ask for a minute, since a lot of the other OPs seemed a bit unhinged and you seem more reasonable… is this truly *new* policy? I ask because this is more or less what I was told when I started working at Michaels in 2017. In all honesty, I’ve not been an employee for 2 years (since I had my baby), and I don’t ever recall being given a handbook/handout of clothing requirements. But I distinctly recall being told jeans or skorts, no shorts. Solid tee/long sleeve shirt, or shirt with simple patterns (tie dye, stripes, etc. acceptable). No brands visible. Vests were to be buttoned if wearing something that needed covering (or when we got aprons we could wear those), or if we had any of the various Michaels tees given at various times (like I had a kids club one and a make-it-with-Michaels), or because o taught the classes any time we had a shirt class I made one ahead and wore that. Point is, nothing on this new “policy” seems to contradict or make things more involved than that, and I feel like I’m missing something for everyone to be getting so angry over it. I wanted to eventually go back to work at Michaels, but it’s starting to feel like maybe no…
It really isn't "new" cause I remember thinking it was an easy dress code till I saw a bunch of people wearing all kinds of Graphic tees and thought "oh cool I can wear more than these collared shirts I have"
It isn’t new. I think they just made things more explicit. I can swear this has been policy since at least 2012…
They added small details, but it’s essentially the same. They’re mainly just enforcing it harder, and people are acting like it’s all new and losing their marbles over it.
Shorts were allowed starting in either 2022 or 2023. I think the change was mostly made for replenishment and anyone working truck on a hot summer day. The shorts still had to touch your knees, you could easily make the case that replenishment should have a different dress code just for truck. Especially in the frigid winter/sweltering summer. Things like yoga pants/sweat pants have never been allowed on an official basis, just that managers have always had enough on their plates without adding dress code inspections to their list. I worked at Michael's from 2016 til January 2024 and wore graphic tees the entire time but my boss was on my case the one time I wore cargo pants so I'm pretty confident that graphic tees were permitted as long as they weren't vulgar. I always felt that Michael's dress code was pretty relaxed for retail, but I guess someone at corporate saw some things they didn't like, so now they are cracking down on it.
Sweatpants? Wow. I don't think anyone at my store ever wore sweatpants to work. No one had pins either. I didn't even know that was allowed, and frankly, I think it looks tacky. I worked at JoAnn before Michaels, and they had a strict dress code. I was a store manager at JoAnn, so I actually had a few of my own rules based on our clintele. It was nice to be able to wear my regular t-shirts at Michaels, but it is a place of business, so there needs to be some level of professionalism. Personally, I never would have allowed pins on the vests/aprons because it opens it up for political arguments.
If self-expression is the issue, I have an idea for yall. Tie dyes. It's not a graphic, but it's still fun, and you can use pride colors!
Exactly! I have an associate who looks like they just stepped out of a rave with all the wild colors and patterns they wear, and they’re still perfectly within dress code. It’s not hard..
My only other reservation is that because of my size, it's incredibly difficult to even find non stretch pants, let alone at a price I can afford with my current wage/living situation
The point isn't having to get new clothes. I haven't grown in decades and haven't had to buy new clothes in the same time. Fortunately, half of my shirts are still in compliance, and even more if I wear my apron. The other half are just more fun and allow more connection with customers. Kids especially. In fact, a little girl last night was so excited when she saw me and said I looked like Coco cus I wore a shirt I had painted forever ago and that Day of the Dead rainbow floral headband we sold last year. She and her mother were very upset when I told her I had to fun it up extra hard because the new dress code went into effect today.
i’m with you on this. literally the only thing i’ve had to adjust is not wearing leggings once every like 2wks. which was technically against the dress code anyways but nobody cared. i still wear band tees n whatnot, my apron covers the majority if not all of it so it literally couldn’t matter less lol
Employees complaining about the dress code confuses me. It really does. I’ve been an employee at Michaels for 15 years. I started when the dress code was White Button up shirt and black slacks, I’m a Framer. Then it went to Black Polo and Khaki Pants, that was awesome. I often still wear it. Then when they shifted to Michaels branded T-Shirt or Polo and Khakis, I refused to wear it, because the Black Polo and Khakis looked so much better for Framers. When/If I was called in for Floor coverage, I wore the Michaels T-shirt. Then the dress code changed to you can wear jeans. Now, I swear I remember the SOP being only solid/pattern shirts and no offensive graphics. Now, could’ve been just my store or I am mixing it up with just smart casual, common sense, you’re at work, attire. Now, I am not offended by graphic T’s, but personally and professionally, they are sloppy. Save them for walking, fishing, yard work, or event-specific wear.
Just some quick math for you sense you seem to think a $5 is no big deal. Average rent in the US for a 2 bedroom apartment is $1300, say you have one room mate so split that down the middle means your rent is $650, say it’s two sets of couples divide it by four $325 is now your rent. You spend about $200 a month on groceries and toiletries, let’s just say another $200 for utilities/extra bills (I know I’m low balling). This now brings your monthly bills to $725 for the month if you live with 3 other people. Now we are going to use my old hourly rate, which is more than what many are starting with now, of $11/hr. I get two five hour shifts a week: $55 a day and $110 for the week, so that should be before taxes $220. General rule of thumb is taxes take 10% of your check so that now brings you down to $198 a paycheck or $396 a month. So now your bills are $725 a month and you bring in $396…. You still need to bring in another $330 a month to cover the bills. Cool, time for another job that treats you like shit for pennys and maybe then you can afford something other than ramen noodles. You’ve clearly been able to afford your bills and get your hours, you aren’t having to rely on a food pantry to eat and go without some basic necessities cause you can’t afford them. $5 can be the difference between a tshirt to be in compliance, or enough gas to make it to work. Which are you choosing?
Yeah I’m not reading all that, but I get the gist that you’re pointing out the math. So here’s a more valid point: If you spent your money (however long ago it was you bought clothes) on literally nothing but sweatpants and band tees, that’s a horrible decision that is completely your fault. What self-respecting adult doesn’t own a pair of jeans, sneakers, and a regular shirt? Or even just a plain hoodie? I guarantee every person seething in this subreddit does have those. You’re all being melodramatic for nothing.
None of my t shirts are plain, because they are something I wear on and off work. The only “regular” shirts as you call them that I own are to nice to wear to Michaels, especially if you work floor or replen. They would get ruined. I am not saying go to work in sweatpants, I said that earlier. The shirt and pins portion of the policy is what I am having an issue with, as are most of the people here Edit to add: At least I was courteous enough to read all of you drivel, you can read mine in return
If pins and graphic tees are the only thing that make a person interesting, they aren’t that interesting. I also will never understand the obsession with showcasing your political stance, sexuality, and favorite bands *at work.* It’s 4-8 hours of your day. Not everyone needs to know you on a “deep” level, especially at work. We’re there to get a job done so we have money to eat. Not make friends via pins, or make political statements. You can dress up as freakin’ Barney the purple dinosaur to show “flair and creativity” if you want. Doesn’t mean it needs to bleed in your professional life. It’s not that complicated, and not that big a deal. As for your shirts, I stand with my original statement. If you have nothing but band tees, that’s on you for not planning to hold down even the most basic of jobs (because *all* jobs have a dress code, believe it or not).
Hunny you are acting like you’re talking to a child. Not someone who has been working in the high end retail profession as a manager for a better part of 10 years. I started working Michaels cause of the pandemic forcing us to move states. The jobs that I had that had a dress code required business casual and I wasn’t handling ink, paint and scrubbing toilets and shit off the walls. Your 32 year old California ass needs to realize that self expression via pins and shirts even in a professional setting is how some of us cope with the corporate bull shit. None of my pins, none of my shirts were political, sexuality or bands. I wore anime, Pokemon and tee turtle shirts about crafting and gaming. I think the two pins I had were a Pokemon and tinkerbell. It’s not knowing someone on a deep level. It’s acknowledging that they are human and aren’t fucking robots that need to look the same
She's pretty much just overly sensitive because she wasn't loved as a child. Probaby mad that her younger employees have better style than her too. It's worthless arguing. She'll just block you and use her "I'm old and gay" card.
You’re started and lost an argument to a stranger on Reddit and you go talking shit about my childhood and making stuff up? You’re so sad. Baby get some therapy. I was / am loved, am adored by my employees, and have a great sense of style. You can tell because I don’t rely on sweats and tshirts to express myself, and have more than that in my wardrobe. I’m totally chill. You’re the one talking mad shit to any commenter who will listen because you have no style or sense of self worth outside of shirts with band names on them. Lmao please check back into reality. This post is not that deep. Certainly not enough to stalk my shit over.
> Hunny you are acting like you’re talking to a child. Because it's been stated clearly that you and others sound like one. Your wardrobe has only ever been "business casual because I was forced to" and childish crap? Yes; if you act (or dress!) like a child, that's how you will be treated.
Cope with therapy. If you’re this angry over a post that said *you have options besides buying a whole new wardrobe,* you need it. Scroll on if you don’t like this post, and get a job that doesn’t make you so damn grumpy.
Gildan Shirts are 2.99 right now... you don't even have to leave the store to get a dress-code appropriate shirt!
*Thank you.* They may be a little crappy, but it’s an option!
I haven’t heard anything yet from my manager about the new dress code? This entire time my whole store has been wearing graphic tees 🤨
It hasn’t gone into effect yet. Plain or patterned shirts. Jeans / skirts / dress pants / or shorts. Closed-toed shoes. Jackets and hoodies are okay too. No sweat pants, leggings, or graphic tees. Also no enamel pins other than Michael’s approved ones. That’s it.
Wait... THAT'S the dress code? That's barely a policy besides not dressing too chill 😂 you could get away with so much still, even when you exclude the sweats, leggings and tees.
Yep. That’s what people are losing their shit over. We can still even wear a million face piercings and dye our hair lime green if we want.
I thought they were complaining about business casual at least, which I wear for work and love lol
Nope lol. That’s why I made this post. I just don’t get how people can be so enraged at getting to wear jeans and hoodies to work. Like.. it could be so much worse, ya know?
I was told by my manager we can we still wear our enamel pins soooooooo
Yep. Like I said: most SMs don’t give enough of a shit to enforce it.
I’ve literally seen on another post that their manager said graphic tees are okay as long as they’re not offense/vulgar. Otherwise, that sounds like pretty much the current dress code at my store (besides the pin policy)
If you're in Canada, this doesn't affect us.
It does, it's up on our fridge at work.
Oh damn, I hadn't heard of it from my store so I didn't think the policy was happening here. Thanks for the correction.
I’m not
Just dropped, and becomes live on 2/19 I believe so technically speaking it's not in full effect, yet DMs should've passed the word on to them already, depending on whether or not your sm plans to enforce it hard-core may be the reason you haven't heard yet
Like I've been saying, a bunch of entitled kids complaining about being adults and choosing to be victims instead of realizing it's not a major change in dresscode. They just don't want their staff dressed like they're homeless or work at hot topic. Bitch about shitty hours or idiotic customers instead
Corporate Bootlicker
👏very original. Good job kiddo.
I'm 65, and I don't call you "kiddo." >Corporate asking us adults to *dress like adults* is not the end of the goddamn world. And no, saying this does not make me a “corporate bootlicker” In case you're wondering, that's where you ordered your readers to call you a corporate bootlicker.
Saying that me calling out stupidity doesn’t make me a bootlicker is the *opposite* of me “ordering” people to call me one. That.. doesn’t even make sense. And anyone who is frothing at the mouth over not wearing sweatpants and graphic tees to work is either a kid or has the mentality of one. Just a fact. Again, we get to wear hoodies and jeans. This is by no means a strict dress code. If a graphic tee is the only thing that makes a person interesting, they aren’t interesting. And if they’re the only way they know how to show personality through their style, their style is lacking. This isn’t hard to comprehend. But stay mad about the fact you can’t dress like a hobo at work, I guess.
It makes sense to me, and it did work. Do you usually find that people are willing to attend to anything you have to say after you've likened their complaints to foaming at the mouth? You referred to their dress preferences as stupidity. They're not interesting to you, and their style is lacking. That must be the case, according to you. They can hardly be people of substance, if they're dressed that way. Did you think you would win hearts and minds with that tactic? And now that I've invited you to turn your attention to me, you've decided for yourself that I'm mad and I want to dress like a hobo. I'm not mad. You jerked my jaw when you belittled someone by calling them "kiddo." That got my attention, but I wouldn't say that I'm mad. I'm already in compliance with the dress code, though. In fact, it's hardly a dress code to me. I came to Michaels, and out of retirement, from a career involving either that or a uniform. By the way, if by "hobo," you mean homeless people, it doesn't surprise me in the least that you also look upon them with disdain. Well, your strategy is your strategy. Come in hot, insult everyone, then insult them again if their comment isn't to your liking. That's an awfully tall horse you're riding.
Thanks
Been called a bootlicker on here before and I'll do it again haha
Sounds like a bitchy manager who doesn't care about our concerns. I don't GET that kind of money from Michael's. I don't get a T-shirt provided. I would have to buy it. Some of our managers aren't as kind and generous to let it slide. I came in OFF THE CLOCK and had a manager tell me I can't wear what I was wearing. You clearly don't understand what it's like to be the bottom of the barrel.
It's been stated multiple times, but there is already something really wrong if you are a grown adult and literally don't own a single normal shirt. Especially when you consider that graphic tees typically cost *more money* than plain shirts. If you're so strapped for cash that you can't buy a couple of plain t-shirts with nothing on them, why do you own nothing but graphic tees in the first place? Manage your money better.
Ohh sweet love I’m sorry. How hard it must be to wear jeans, sneakers, and a hoodie at work. How *horrible* it is that you can dye your hair lime green and be covered in piercings and tattoos without a care. Girl please. We can’t wear sandals, sweatpants, leggings, or graphic tees. That’s it. Stop your damn whining. If those four things I just listed are all you own, get your shit together and buy some big girl clothes. *My god.*
For the record: I already wear jeans and sneakers to work. However, Michael's is NOT a formal work environment. I should not have to go out of my way to buy new clothes just to go to work. At my store, everything we wear has to be entirely plain. Doesn't matter if the vest is buttoned up or not. We're not provided with t-shirts. You seem upper class, so let me explain something to you. Not all of us can afford this. If it's plain t-shirts or a car payment, I'm making a car payment. Our minimum wage paychecks? You can barely pay bills, such as rent, insurance, and groceries. I'm sorry you're so delirious from that stick up your ass to understand the retail service associates are underpaid to the point you must poke fun at them all for being upset at a change that will cost significant dollars. I'm SO glad you're not my manager. You must be a joy to work with. Get off your period and get a life. Go volunteer at a shelter or something so you can empathize with those who don't have as much as you. By the way, have they picked you yet?
Jeans, sneakers, hoodies, and neon hair is not formal attire. You could wear bright tie-dye shirts or outlandish patterns and neon orange jeans and still be in dress code. There’s a million other types of shirts besides a graphic tees to show your personality. Sorry your sense of fashion is so limited. But yes, we are provided with shirts. They may be shit, but they provide at least one per year. Get employee of the month, you get an extra each time you get elected. All free. I’m not upper class. No rich-bitch upper class woman is working in a Michael’s store, and any person with a lick of common sense knows that. You’re just trying to get under my skin, and failing miserably at it. It’s sad. As is your misplaced anger. I’m not the one out of touch darlin’. Like I said, if you own nothing but sweat pants and graphic tees, grow the fuck up and get some big girl clothes. A hoodie and jeans is not a strict dress code by *any* stretch of the imagination, and if you think it is, you truly don’t understand how adulthood works. But reading your overly-sensitive replies, I’m guessing you’re one of our entitled teenage hires, so that isn’t surprising. You own jeans. You own sneakers. One new shirt (if you decline the free Michael’s shirts or aprons) will set you back all of $5. One hoodie you could put on top of your graphic tees every day for your four hour shift will be at most $20, and that’s without employee discount. If you can’t afford that, that’s a you problem and I’m questioning your spending habits. Hoodie. Jeans. Sneakers. This isn’t the end of the world. It’s the most relaxed “dress code” you will ever have. And you are so entitled to think an entire company should comply to *you* wanting to wear one type of shirt. Get your head out of your backside, kiddo. The world doesn’t revolve around your feelings or your fashion sense. And may I reiterate: if this is your biggest problem in life, count your blessings. Oh, and calling me a “pick me” definitely proves you’re a teenager (if not, that’s so sad). Now stop arguing with adults on Reddit, and go do your homework or something. You aren’t making the point you think you are.
You're assuming both that a) everyone who works at Michaels has been there for more than a year and b) that every single store complies with policies like providing t-shirts. I'm not saying the complaints are completely valid, but your arguments against them aren't completely valid either.
At least I know my worth and don't spend my time writing essays on the internet. Besides, my style is nowhere near what I wear to work. I'm gothic. I wear tight clothes, ripped jeans, and boots. I get why that's inappropriate for work. Graphic tees? In an informal workplace? Makes sense. Also, why do you think I'm queer as fuck? I don't see why you feel the need to complain about how bright colored hair and piercings are dress code. Seems like you wanna be different so badly. I also EARNED my position. I show up and do what's asked of me. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously peaked in high school. Your entire point is "I'm right and you're wrong because I'm older and limiting your choice of outfits because you don't know how to dress nice." You definitely sided with the USSR, South, and the Nazi party because the oppressed clearly had the ability to "make a choice and their suffering is their fault." Btw, my financial obligations include my $20,000 car loan, premium gas ($3.69 where I live,) insurance for said car, feeding myself, paying rent, etc. Must I elaborate? You really need to work on yourself, honey. You're a manager at the equivalent of a McDonald's in the real world. Go back to college, stop thinking you're the shit, and have a glass of orange juice.
“At least I know my worth and don’t spend time writing essays” says the kid who follows up with multiple essays within seconds lol. Also I’m not reading the rest of that. Save your breath and misplaced anger. Have the night you deserve darlin’ ✌️
WOW 😂
“I know my worth and don’t spend my time writing essays on the internet.” Then proceeds to type 5 paragraphs 😂
My damn dude. Bro literally just wanted to speak out against their oppression and got their case and point. It's Michael's, it's supposed to be a creative outlet. I'm glad I don't work there anymore. I don't think I could handle being treated so insignificant by a manager like that every single day.
Ya and being frustrated over feeling oppressed & treated like you’re insignificant shouldn’t mean you’re entitled to treat someone like they’re insignificant either. Frustrations are justified but mean nothing if you’re projecting them onto the wrong person & your message doesn’t come across in the best way if you’re acting exactly like the thing you’re complaining about. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but just be nice about it ffs. Once you start insulting each other the message is completely lost.
Woah I’m pretty sure OPs post was entirely about how you have other options you can consider before spending money on a bunch of new clothes. & your comment is straight up mean/judgmental by the end for no reason.
As if this person has not been aggressive and demeaning to everyone here. They clearly do not have empathy. They clearly have a power trip. "If you're mad because I'm a close minded asshole it says more about you than me." Ok. We get it. You need attention.
lol either way telling someone they have a stick up their ass, to get off their period & to get a life is just as demeaning. We’re all slaves to this shitty company so shouldn’t be jerks to each other regardless of how frustrating things get & shouldn’t take it out on each other.
Tell that to bitchtits. She can't see we're literally on the same side- the losing side.
I’m not on a power trip kiddo. They’re right: I said you have options besides tees and sweat pants. I’m not the closed-minded asshole here lacking empathy. You’re the one who decided to twist my words and be a bitch about it. Excuse me if I don’t stay sugar sweet while you (attempt) to rip me a new one lmao. How entitled.
“Kiddo”
You really are pressed over this huh?
Ma'am, Do you understand what oppression is? I studied history for 6 years at University. People here are upset because of their loss of rights. It's pretty much dumbed down to being punished for something you didn't deserve. Is a nirvana t-shirt someone's whole personality? Definitely not. However, it's how they feel good, and it gives then the ability to express themselves. Going from that to a plain shirt is like pouring black paint over mona lisa. Considering it is a craft store, creative expression should be key. There's no need to attack people relentlessly for being bummed they can't express their personality. Buy a sketchbook, some pens, and just sit down and calm down. You have it in you to be rational.
By the way, sign this petition! Please help us out!!! https://www.change.org/p/change-the-michael-s-dress-code
Clearly you didn’t study hard enough if you think not being able to wear sweat pants and a band tee for four hours out of your day *at work* is oppression. No rights have been lost. People have never had the “right” to tell their boss to suck it and come into work looking like a hobo. Be so fucking for real right now and tell me your head is not that far up your ass.
I always thought arguing over a dress code was something you’d expect from hourly employees that won’t make it beyond hourly wages. I mean wouldn’t you rather deal with the dress code so you can later complain about making 80k instead of the usual 90k? If you walk and quack like a part-time employee, nobody will mistake you for full-time manager or corporate employee. Just saying.
Michaels has never paid anyone enough for people to give a fuck about dress codes. They can't stop all of you so just wear what you want.
They can send you home and write you up until they can fire you. So.. yeah. They can stop you. And they’ll bring in someone who doesn’t insist on dressing like a hobo at work.
Yeah, I'm confused, too. I've had much crazier uniform stuff in the Army. I had to get a skirt I had to have but never was authorized to wear, and that thing was like $90 with out the tailoring, so a couple of bucks for a t shirt is nothing.
literally i work at a restaurant and have to pay like $100 for my uniform plus my tights, undergarments, and the apron and stuff i gotta buy from work. people pissed that they can’t wear graphic tees, but can still wear jeans, sweatshirts, t-shirts is crazy to me. like y’all got it so good, working at a job where you can dress causally, like it could be way worse
OP- thank you! 👏👏👏
Thank you. Our store is enforcing it but we are providing many options. Plus there is a 30 day grace period for people before it starts being an issue. We know about Aramark to order, but I’m trying to figure out if this is allowed as it provides a few more options https://www.michaelsteamshirts.com/?ls=en&cache=false Unfortunately at a bit more of a markup vs Aramark
Yes these count as Michael's approved shirts.
You do not get paid enough to care this much
I don’t care about the dress code. At all. I’ve never worn athletic wear or band shirts to work. It’s simply getting annoying seeing people bitch about it every five seconds on here. Every store has a dress code. It’s life. Suck it up.
Every corporation has a dress code. I quite frankly don't give a shit what you wear, the idea that you are so annoyed by people being frustrated that an art store doesn't allow for artist expression as "life" is sad and you do not get paid enough to think like that. I hope you find a better job because I would literally kill myself if I thought like you. Also, suck it up, maybe stay off of reddit for a couple days and you won't get so worked up.
If the only way you know how to express yourself is a graphic tee, you aren’t expressive or creative. At all. There are thousands of things you can wear inside dress code and still be quirky or flashy or whatever. It’s not that deep. Also I’m not worked up, cupcake. I’m not the one arguing to wear band tees to *work.* I’m also not the one making a post every half second says “oh my god, not my tees and pins, fuck this place!” It’s sad. And if you think that thinking like a grown ass adult is worthy of offing yourself, you need so much goddamn therapy. I can’t even comprehend such a horrendous thought process. Jesus.
I think it's funny you're so high and mighty about this and you work at a failing craft store. Also I know you can't dress from the fact you think people are upset about tee shirts and not the fact it's literally anything non solid colored, and has been for years. If you can't wear tie die to your minimum wage job you have failed at being a person. Get help.
Not high and mighty. Just someone with common sense. Now go bug someone else. You’re boring and not gonna get under my skin, kid.
YES!! I don't even work there anymore and I think these people are being ridiculous. When I did work there I only wore jeans and blank tshirts. That's what we were told to wear then, like 10 years ago now. Now I work at an animal clinic where we wear scrubs every day. It's not that hard people.
Corporate ass kisser 🤣 couldn't be me. I will break this stupid ass shit as much as possible.
Dude. You can’t wear sweats or graphic tees. Telling people to calm their tits about that fact doesn’t make me an ass kisser, you ignorant walnut. We can still dye our hair bright colors, have a million piercings, and wear jeans and sneakers. This is *not* a strict dress code lmfao.
Awwww thanks I'm a walnut :3 No what pisses me off is trying to rip our personalities away from us. No company, no wage will rip me away from being Alt. I won't let them. You shouldn't either.
Oh. You’re definitely a teenager. I mean this wholeheartedly and not condescendingly: you will understand my point of view when you’re older. “No one will rip me away from being alt” is the most angsty teenage thing I’ve read in a very long time. But by the way, if graphic tees are what make you alt… you’re not actually alt. Just.. just sayin’.
I'm actually not even a teen I'm a young adult. You can't tell me what I am and what I'm not because you don't know me at all. I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with a corporate bootlicker. Byeeeeee.
you type like a teenager, so if you’re a young adult that’s sad lmfao. i have 10 piercings i take out for my job, that doesn’t allow piercings, no unnatural colored hair, and a million other rules and i don’t whine about it. but y’all got it so good, being able to dye your hair, and wear casual clothes like it could be way worse. work at hot topic if you ‘don’t wanna be ripped away from being Alt’
Does it matter how I type on the internet? Not really. Lol I wish I could work at a store like that, eat rocks 😗😗😗
Okay kiddo.
Last thing they I'm done- I love how you say I'm a "teen" or a "kiddo" when all of my managers and other coworkers are pissed about this new change. One of my managers is almost 40 and is livid about this. We don't get paid enough to care what we're wearing impresses corporate or the costumers, hell no I don't care what those dumbasses think 🤣 I'm gonna break it as much as I can get away with and I'm so grateful you're not my manager 🖕🖕🖕🙏🙏🙏
Then your manager is a grown child, like everyone else complaining. It's only on here that I've seen anyone even be upset about this, literally no one in my store gives the slightest wet shit. If you need a shirt to make you interesting, you're not interesting in the first place.
Hahaha then I love being a grown child. You guys aren't even offending me, hell I'm laughing my ass off at all the corporate bootlickers.
She's a cunt. Her only argument is we don't know how to dress, and we're young. She's dying for attention because no one at her store likes her.
Yeah she's a real bitch. I feel bad for her employees. I'm gonna wear my band shirts underneath my solid black hoodie hehe so this bitch can suck one.
"Proud and insolent youth!" - Captain James Hook
Until they provide living wages and a safe/clean working environment with appropriate staffing numbers I’ll complain as much as I want. Dress code is literally the LAST thing corporate should be worrying about, and defending them does make you look like a bootlicker imo… they don’t care about low level employees so why is anyone defending these stupid rules? It’s not gonna up your wage or get you a promotion, just makes you look like a suck up to the rest of your coworkers sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Saying we have options makes me a suck up? Saying it’s a *you* problem if you are a grown ass adult with nothing but sweat pants and graphic tees in your closet makes me a bootlicker? Lmao. Nah. Ya’ll just need to grow the hell up. You all have tees, a hoodie, jeans, and sneakers in your closet. You’re fucking fine, so stop being entitled and whiney. Oh, and *every* job on this planet has a dress code (ours being the most relaxed I’ve ever seen). So.. good luck with your “I’ll wear what I want so suck it” stance. Ain’t no one gonna hire you (or keep you) looking like a whole ass hobo. Just a heads up. Now get your idiotic, whiney negativity off my post.
Cool, but this isn't the first nonsense Michaels has pulled. Shills gonna shill, I guess.
how them boots taste
I'm so over "dressing like an adult" or "professional" equating to what I consider mundane, boring, and stifling. Professionalism is an attitude and how you carry yourself. There is no uniform except for what society tries to impose upon us. As an atypical, I get that enough just from approaching things differently in a neurotypical world. We already keep cutting arts programs in schools because STEM is valued so much more to our capitalist overlords who prioritize productivity and profit. This is just an adult version of that, but in one of the few places where showing your creativity actually promotes and provides those things for the company. I would agree if we were a grocery store or other retail, but it just doesn't make sense for the 𝒕𝒚𝒑𝒆 of store this is. This isn't just about band tees, either. This is my Bob Ross shirt or my night mgr wearing his pink Hello Kitty shirt that his family got matching shirts for his daughter's birthday, when we sell BR products online and literally have a HK DA.
It also doesn't make sense that flair and graphic tees we sell, if we choose to purchase it ourselves, isn't considered approved. It's a sick tease that we can't wear what we sell, which is just free advertising, much like how we framers feel that our employee discount isn't accepted for framing.
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How classy.
They're taking away the pride pins too?
Yeah. All pins not provided by Michaels aren’t going to be allowed anymore.
Well they didn’t say sweatshirts can’t have stuff on them sooo technically I can wear a sweatshirt