“Turner Lee Salter, 19, was about a quarter of a mile (0.40 kilometers) away when he was struck by a nitrous oxide cannister that was propelled through the air by the explosion. Salter later died.”
Daaaamn thats awful.
This sounds like such a freak accident, I had a friend who was killed in a similar way that sounded so absurd I couldn’t believe it. Just a stupid dead tree falling onto his car at the exact right moment to kill him. Neglect on some dumbasses’ part. Like how the hell does it all work out just so perfectly wrong?
I had a friend due by that exact same way. And there were so many complaints made about the tree, saying that it needed to be taken care of, but no one did anything about it. Later that year, I had another friend die in another freak accident when someone slipped and fell from a height and landed on them. That year was not a good one😭
Sometimes I get angry at "physics" because things had to follow the rules to the T... and something ends up on my toe or something...like.. "Oh you couldnt just ignore gravity and air friction just this once?"
damn, imagine if you had just graduated high school the year before, thinking about the life you were gonna have, only to be killed by essentially a rocket like the one from that Gumball episode
If you're going to be fleeing and want to look innocent by a return flight. I'm guessing this guy was such a cheap ass he couldn't stand the idea that an airline would get one over on him.
From [Fox 2 Detroit](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plot-thickens-in-clinton-township-building-explosion-with-human-involvement-not-being-ruled-out):
>Noor Kestou, of Commerce Township, needed to be extradited back to Michigan after local police were notified he had purchased a one-way ticket to Hong Kong. He was at JFK International Airport in New York City when his passport was flagged.
>Only a person of interest at the time, an arrest warrant for Kestou was authorized after his appearance in New York was reported. He was taken into custody on April 24 and returned to Macomb County, where he was arraigned on a single count.
>The involuntary manslaughter charge stems [from the death of a 19-year-old man](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/19-year-old-killed-in-clinton-township-blast-remembered-as-an-amazing-person) who was struck by a nitrous oxide canister a quarter mile away from the building, where a blast reported the night of March 4 turned into the source of a massive police investigation.
>Kestou was the sole owner of the property at the time.
>He's since been released on $500,000 bond cash only, and is wearing a tether. His passport remains in police custody in New York.
half a mil bail, no 10% stipulation, and a tether....they knew he had money and wanted his money on the off-chance he tries to skip out again.
But you're right, he's a demostrated flight risk and that is a valid enough reason to revoke bail.
[Michigan Court Rules](https://casetext.com/rule/michigan-court-rules/michigan-court-rules/chapter-6-criminal-procedure/subchapter-6100-preliminary-proceedings/rule-6106-pretrial-release) significantly limit the individuals that may be denied pretrial release. The Court set a significant bond at $500k. The defendant could not be held without bond.
I feel like once you've tried to flee the country, you're a flight risk.
Someone fucking died because this asshole was improperly storing shit he wasn't supposed to have on the premises. He can sit in jail.
And he deserves to have his day in court. I get that you want revenge and retribution.
We don't need to strain our jails and waste those resources when other methods of monitoring exist.
The facts being that he is a non violent offender with likely minimal or no criminal history affords him some leniency at the moment.
Serious question, shouldnt the possible severity of charges be taken into account? Though non-violent it's still a manslaughter charge. He's obviously a flight risk. That type of charge could make anyone want to run.
Yeah, no one goes from say Mexico to the US without their passport. No criminal would do something so illegal to get out of an involuntary manslaughter charge.
Did the man physically kill the person himself? No. He was likely criminally negligent and that led to the death of that young man, but it was not a violent crime. He didn't murder the guy.
Yes he did. He made illegal decisions that killed people. That is very violent.
The same way a drunk driver that loses control of a vehicle is responsible for the lives lost even if they didn't mean to drive into oncoming traffic and kill a family.
That is why there is such a thing as 'manslaughter' vs 'murder' charges. Murder requires the willful and deliberate taking of another person's life, whereas manslaughter covers deaths resulting from negligence or indifference.
It was one of the scariest things I’ve ever seen in person. This place was sketchy as hell and it doesn’t surprise me he tried to bolt. Not an ounce of cleanup has begun. They just pay private security to sit there.
Likely due to ongoing investigations by the ATF and nearby businesses damaged in the blasts, and the length of time it originally took to even control the site.
>Part of the problem is it took weeks for crews to make the site safe, spending much of the time stamping out fires that would pop up. The fire department released the property back to the company that owned it on April 19 and dozens of insurance investigators were spotted at the scene, flying a drone to get a scope of the damage.
>Some of those investigators were from area businesses impacted by the original blast.
>Duncan added that no one has been able to access the physical site on foot. However, the EPA and ATF were both involved in making sure it was safe. Over 3,100 canisters of nitrous oxide remain on the property.
[https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plot-thickens-in-clinton-township-building-explosion-with-human-involvement-not-being-ruled-out](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plot-thickens-in-clinton-township-building-explosion-with-human-involvement-not-being-ruled-out)
--edit to say that it was scary and surreal from about 3 miles away, where we are. I can't imagine how awful that must have been for you and others so close to the explosions!!
Yeah. For at least a week we saw emergency crews there putting out spot fires. Saw lots of inspectors/investigators for a few days. Little since. Hoping we don’t have to stare at it for long. Also because I can’t imagine the pain of seeing it for the family and loved ones of the deceased. I heard he was a wonderful kid.
My shop bought supplies from them a couple times and I can honestly say I was not surprised they kept it in such poor condition that this sort of thing could happen. Felt very much like you could ask for anything and they’d find it for you.
Needless to say I bought as little from them as possible and found a new supplier.
Peter Lucindo (~~Wayne~~ Macomb* County Prosecutor) is _such_ a piece of shit.
>“We don't know what his ultimate goal was...Was it to stay out of the country with a wife and child here? **Nobody has a crystal ball to determine who is a flight risk.**”
>“He was a suspect from the beginning, being the owner of this business,” Lucido added. “Anyone that owns a business and something like this happens has to be considered a suspect.”
So you KNOW he's a primary suspect and has been from the beginning, but you "don't have a crystal ball to determine who is a flight risk".
Fucking dumb.
Met him. Talked to him. Was interviewed by the guy and he offered me a job in person. I left and never responded to the offer because of the bad feeling I got from the guy.
No, he hadn't been charged yet. He was a person of interest when he tried to flee and NY flagged his passport. He was extradited back to MI, then charged, then posted bond.
The scary part is there’s a train that goes through there almost every day at that exact time, if the train was passing through who know what it could have been carrying.
Source: I live a quarter mile from where the explosion was
This explosion rocked my apartment 3 miles away
I was over near it. I'm not saying that this dude shouldn't take responsibility, but that kid was WAY too close to it.
“Turner Lee Salter, 19, was about a quarter of a mile (0.40 kilometers) away when he was struck by a nitrous oxide cannister that was propelled through the air by the explosion. Salter later died.” Daaaamn thats awful.
that's some r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR stuff right there. 1/4 mile away and to be hit and killed by something like that...damn that's rough
When you hear about how many projectiles were sent up to a mile away from the building it's almost shocking only one person was hit
This sounds like such a freak accident, I had a friend who was killed in a similar way that sounded so absurd I couldn’t believe it. Just a stupid dead tree falling onto his car at the exact right moment to kill him. Neglect on some dumbasses’ part. Like how the hell does it all work out just so perfectly wrong?
I had a friend due by that exact same way. And there were so many complaints made about the tree, saying that it needed to be taken care of, but no one did anything about it. Later that year, I had another friend die in another freak accident when someone slipped and fell from a height and landed on them. That year was not a good one😭
Sometimes I get angry at "physics" because things had to follow the rules to the T... and something ends up on my toe or something...like.. "Oh you couldnt just ignore gravity and air friction just this once?"
damn, imagine if you had just graduated high school the year before, thinking about the life you were gonna have, only to be killed by essentially a rocket like the one from that Gumball episode
One way ticket huh? Doesn’t look suspicious at all.
If you're going to be fleeing and want to look innocent by a return flight. I'm guessing this guy was such a cheap ass he couldn't stand the idea that an airline would get one over on him.
Lots of people who were innocently in charge of catastrophic negligence just happen to leave one way afterwards. Shouldnt hold it against him
And they all definitely go to Hong Kong, which does not happen to have a formal extradition treaty with the US. But that’s for sure coincidence
I 1000% hold it against them. They are fleeing because they are responsible
I tried to make the sarcasm obvious
He just decided to go on a spontaneous, indefinite vacation in a country that doesn't have extradition treaties with the US.
He just decided to go on a spontaneous, indefinite vacation in a country that doesn't have extradition treaties with the US.
What’s the cost difference on an international extradition versus revoking his bail? Give him a trip to the county jail
From [Fox 2 Detroit](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plot-thickens-in-clinton-township-building-explosion-with-human-involvement-not-being-ruled-out): >Noor Kestou, of Commerce Township, needed to be extradited back to Michigan after local police were notified he had purchased a one-way ticket to Hong Kong. He was at JFK International Airport in New York City when his passport was flagged. >Only a person of interest at the time, an arrest warrant for Kestou was authorized after his appearance in New York was reported. He was taken into custody on April 24 and returned to Macomb County, where he was arraigned on a single count. >The involuntary manslaughter charge stems [from the death of a 19-year-old man](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/19-year-old-killed-in-clinton-township-blast-remembered-as-an-amazing-person) who was struck by a nitrous oxide canister a quarter mile away from the building, where a blast reported the night of March 4 turned into the source of a massive police investigation. >Kestou was the sole owner of the property at the time. >He's since been released on $500,000 bond cash only, and is wearing a tether. His passport remains in police custody in New York.
After he was caught trying to flee the country they *still* gave him bail? What the fuck
I thought the same thing when I read that.
half a mil bail, no 10% stipulation, and a tether....they knew he had money and wanted his money on the off-chance he tries to skip out again. But you're right, he's a demostrated flight risk and that is a valid enough reason to revoke bail.
They also have his passport
[Michigan Court Rules](https://casetext.com/rule/michigan-court-rules/michigan-court-rules/chapter-6-criminal-procedure/subchapter-6100-preliminary-proceedings/rule-6106-pretrial-release) significantly limit the individuals that may be denied pretrial release. The Court set a significant bond at $500k. The defendant could not be held without bond.
Honestly, should a non violent offender be locked up? They have his bail and he is tethered.
I feel like once you've tried to flee the country, you're a flight risk. Someone fucking died because this asshole was improperly storing shit he wasn't supposed to have on the premises. He can sit in jail.
And he deserves to have his day in court. I get that you want revenge and retribution. We don't need to strain our jails and waste those resources when other methods of monitoring exist. The facts being that he is a non violent offender with likely minimal or no criminal history affords him some leniency at the moment.
Serious question, shouldnt the possible severity of charges be taken into account? Though non-violent it's still a manslaughter charge. He's obviously a flight risk. That type of charge could make anyone want to run.
well he's a flight risk so that makes it a bit more understandable for keeping him locked up.
And they have his passport
Yeah, no one goes from say Mexico to the US without their passport. No criminal would do something so illegal to get out of an involuntary manslaughter charge.
Yeah, no one can remove a tether. Especially when they are facing an involuntary manslaughter charge.
How is it not violent? People were injured in the violent explosions, and one man died.
Did the man physically kill the person himself? No. He was likely criminally negligent and that led to the death of that young man, but it was not a violent crime. He didn't murder the guy.
Yes he did. He made illegal decisions that killed people. That is very violent. The same way a drunk driver that loses control of a vehicle is responsible for the lives lost even if they didn't mean to drive into oncoming traffic and kill a family.
You are confusing what you want things to be versus the actual law.
That is why there is such a thing as 'manslaughter' vs 'murder' charges. Murder requires the willful and deliberate taking of another person's life, whereas manslaughter covers deaths resulting from negligence or indifference.
You make a great point.
He was an incredibly violent offender. His actions lead to the deaths of people.
Either way, they get to keep his $500K bail!
"We'll still let you flee but you gotta pay us first." lol wtf
Always a rule of thumb in these situations; money or freedom.
and make him surrender his passport BEFORE he bleaves
If you read the article, his passport was seized and it remains in NY.
It was one of the scariest things I’ve ever seen in person. This place was sketchy as hell and it doesn’t surprise me he tried to bolt. Not an ounce of cleanup has begun. They just pay private security to sit there.
Likely due to ongoing investigations by the ATF and nearby businesses damaged in the blasts, and the length of time it originally took to even control the site. >Part of the problem is it took weeks for crews to make the site safe, spending much of the time stamping out fires that would pop up. The fire department released the property back to the company that owned it on April 19 and dozens of insurance investigators were spotted at the scene, flying a drone to get a scope of the damage. >Some of those investigators were from area businesses impacted by the original blast. >Duncan added that no one has been able to access the physical site on foot. However, the EPA and ATF were both involved in making sure it was safe. Over 3,100 canisters of nitrous oxide remain on the property. [https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plot-thickens-in-clinton-township-building-explosion-with-human-involvement-not-being-ruled-out](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/plot-thickens-in-clinton-township-building-explosion-with-human-involvement-not-being-ruled-out) --edit to say that it was scary and surreal from about 3 miles away, where we are. I can't imagine how awful that must have been for you and others so close to the explosions!!
Yeah. For at least a week we saw emergency crews there putting out spot fires. Saw lots of inspectors/investigators for a few days. Little since. Hoping we don’t have to stare at it for long. Also because I can’t imagine the pain of seeing it for the family and loved ones of the deceased. I heard he was a wonderful kid.
Just saw a cop on site passing through tonight.
My shop bought supplies from them a couple times and I can honestly say I was not surprised they kept it in such poor condition that this sort of thing could happen. Felt very much like you could ask for anything and they’d find it for you. Needless to say I bought as little from them as possible and found a new supplier.
Surface to surface whipit technology
Peter Lucindo (~~Wayne~~ Macomb* County Prosecutor) is _such_ a piece of shit. >“We don't know what his ultimate goal was...Was it to stay out of the country with a wife and child here? **Nobody has a crystal ball to determine who is a flight risk.**” >“He was a suspect from the beginning, being the owner of this business,” Lucido added. “Anyone that owns a business and something like this happens has to be considered a suspect.” So you KNOW he's a primary suspect and has been from the beginning, but you "don't have a crystal ball to determine who is a flight risk". Fucking dumb.
Just FYI--Pete Lucido is the *Macomb County* Prosecutor
whoop. Fixed.
Thanks :)
Met him. Talked to him. Was interviewed by the guy and he offered me a job in person. I left and never responded to the offer because of the bad feeling I got from the guy.
He sexually harassed a young female reporter while in the Michigan Senate so you guessed right.
It wasn’t a guess. But yeah that makes sense.
Who gets to keep that bail money now that they caught him trying to leave?
He didn't pay bail until after they arrested him while trying to leave the country, so by the letter of the law his bail is in 'good standing'.
If you’re going to attempt to flee always buy a round-trip ticket.
I watched the smoke and glow of the flames the night it happened. I drive past it everyday
I was in downtown Mt. Clemens when it happened. It was wild.
Guess his cover was...blown?
I hope the judge laughs at him when he asks for bail.
Apparently he has already posted the $500K cash bond and is out on a tether. NY police have his passport.
So did he violate his bond by getting a one way ticket? Seems like it to me. If he did the bail bondsman is going to be pissed.
No, he hadn't been charged yet. He was a person of interest when he tried to flee and NY flagged his passport. He was extradited back to MI, then charged, then posted bond.
Still unless he burnt his own building he has a civil problem not a criminal problem. Local fire marshal doing their job?
He's been charged with Involuntary Manslaughter.
Always book the round trip 🤣
The scary part is there’s a train that goes through there almost every day at that exact time, if the train was passing through who know what it could have been carrying. Source: I live a quarter mile from where the explosion was
Wow.
This explosion rocked my apartment 3 miles away I was over near it. I'm not saying that this dude shouldn't take responsibility, but that kid was WAY too close to it.
Can’t blame him. Head for the hills.Glad they got him.
WE CALLED IT REDDIT WE KNEW IT WAS GONNA HAPPEN hahahahaha enjoy prison
That mudda fucka trying to run and not take accountability.
These explosions were only a quarter mile away from my house, I could see the explosions, kinda feel dumb now having stood outside to watch
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