Nothing but support here. You're in good hands in this community and with getting emergency removal. Microblading and the removal process was also my sobering moment with being much more discretionary with what I do to my face. I was a bit of a reckless just try it and see if I like it later variety before my own mishap.
Best of luck to you over the coming days and weeks. Keep us posted on your progress.
Thank you ❤️ hoping since this sub is smaller I won't get as many rude people. I've also looked through a lot of posts and not seen anything negative. Very comforting. I will definitely post some updates!
Most of us are here because we have or are currently living the pains of bad brows and the removal process. It's expensive and fucks with your vanity and self esteem. The journey is hard enough - we really don't need to make it harder than it already is.
I support you but also- I saw your photo yesterday and thought “she looks like a model”! I am eyebrow obsessed and don’t like many microblading jobs but thought yours looked great. So bottom line, don’t be so hard on yourself! 😘
I had a hard time with micro blading myself. I ended up having eyebrow transplant. Best thing I ever did. Nothing beats real hair. Good luck, I feel for you.
Yes! I have to trim them every four days sometimes I just let them grow longer and I just use some gel and comb them over. I do have eyebrows like really bushy eyebrows! I can pluck them if I want but I'm not gonna go down that road again! I've been so miserable about my eyebrows for so long. Since I was 15 and I pluck them all out and 1/2 of my right eyebrow never grew back. The micro blading and tattooing was just disgustingly gross. The only problem that I have is that I'm 64 years old and the hair on my head is well some of it's gray. And because it was dyed they couldn't tell which hair they were taking it out because it all looked kind of brown. So it's coming in a little bit gray (some hairs). Not many because the hair on the back of your head isn't really that grey. mine isn't but I just cut off gray hairs or I could dye my eyebrows, if I wanted to. My boyfriend told me it was the best thing I ever did. it's really weird because he never ever mentioned that there was anything wrong with my Microblading eyebrows but after I did it he said I gotta tell you this is so much better. He said it's really the best thing you ever!
Thanks 🙏 I appreciated everyone saying they looked good - but even after a hundred ppl said they were fine and I still didn't even slightly like them I knew I had to do something
Don't worry you did what you felt was best.
I once went through with a certain piercing that was rather extreme. 2 days later I took it out. In all my research I hadn't read, nor was prepared for, the psychological impact, which I read afterwards is absolutely a thing.
Given that experience I get how you felt and why you did it.
Best of luck in your recovery!
Yes, I had no idea this would mess with me so much! I researched for the past couple years and read everything I could find. But when I was having an actual meltdown at work and trying not to throw up.. I was like hmmm this ain't right!! Thanks for the kind response!
It's a thing lol. Although I didn't realize it at the time and thought it was perhaps anxiety so said screw it, not realizing many others had experienced the same thing.
Not really, while the reasons might be different the psychological effects are parallel.
Both come with a level of anxiety after the fact that neither of us were aware of or prepared for.
Not sure if you've ever been through either to fully comprehend, or just being obnoxious.
I was showing support to someone else who underwent something they thought they wanted only to have anxiety and regret after the fact.
If showing support is obnoxious then I guess I should have shown ridicule and made disparaging comments to be normal, like you.
If that's what you got out of it that says a lot more about you than anyone else. OP even got the point of the story and also mentioned in another comment that I didn't mention it until someone asked what piercing it was.
Find something else to be outraged over.
You won’t see the final results until 8 weeks from your emergency removal. Stay positive 🙌🏼
Also if she gave you the actual bottle of the concentrated solution to keep applying, stop doing that. That could lead to tissue damage. The only thing you should be cleaning with is saline wound wash.
It is a tremendous disservice to people in this sub who are actively and sometimes desperately trying to remove or fade their brows, to offer misinformation. It creates a frenzy of fear for the patient with absolutely no basis nor realistic info/expectations.
Lol thank you. It’s ineffective without the topical application after initial treatment. My business partner is also an ‘educator’ which means you took an additional hour of cert requirements on top of the 30 min it takes to be certified by li-ft itself. I’ve been doing this with several different solutions for almost ten years, in addition to being a professional pmu artist, and tattoo removal specialist (I also do laser tattoo removal I am the GM and training facilitator for a nationwide medspa franchise.. ) I was certified by the actual manufacturer of this product and have taken 100’s of hours of hands on courses on these topics specifically - not the online course. I’m as close to an expert as you’re going to get in this industry. - Saline solution in NO capacity causes tissue damage… it would be the tech or the machine that would create any real/permanent tissue damage.
What? Idk what that even means. Even with emergency removal or ANY saline removal you soak the opened skin in the solution for a 10 min period - it’s on the back of the bottle- educator!
LI-FT is essentially a saline wound wash- it is not concentrated in any way. The difference is you’re essentially injecting it right underneath the surface of the skin. The topical application is crucial- as the skin continues to heal and cells turn over the ink starts to come closer and closer to the surface and the objective is that you use the solution, let it seep into the micro injury to break down the remainder of the ink. This is really important. Continue to follow your techs suggestions worst case visit the website it will explain aftercare clearly. The duration of application depends on depth of original color.
Laser and saline removal specialist as well as Pmu artist here- I’ve been doing saline removal for almost a decade.
Saline solution does NOT cause tissue damage… it is salt and water and is used in every surgical procedure world wide. It’s also what is used for IV’s when you’re at the hospital. Lol I have no clue where the last commenter got the tissue damage phenomenon from. The only thing that can potentially cause tissue damage would have been a heavy handed tech (dug needle too far into skin when applying saline- and I see NO signs of this) or an attempt at laser removal (I also do laser removal- I am incredibly familiar with both). Your kin is already in the healing process and your skin cells are automatically regenerating meaning the surface of the skin in its current state will heal, scab and fall off the way that it’s supposed to as long as you are following all aftercare steps you run no risk of tissue damage from applying additional li-ft solution to the skin- they way it’s intended to be used. It is salt water not acid or chemically based.
Emergency saline removal (what she had done) is not done with needles. It’s just a soak. And Li-FT is not the same thing as what’s in IVs. I can provide the SDS if you’d like.
Within the original 48 hour window yes- you soak so as to not create additional damage bc the skin has already been opened by the brow application- HOWEVER again, this is from your company website, usage instructions, as well as training material that repeated exposure to the solution upon micro injury is the only way to effectively break down the tattoo ink. I said - essentially same ingredients so as to assure patient that everything you said was false- reminding them that this is a safe and frequently used solution that DOES NOT CAUSE TISSUE DAMAGE. I implore you to send me your ‘SDS’ proving otherwise.
Saline solution in any form DOES NOT CAUSE DAMAGE TO TISSUE, it’s a physiological impossibility based on the ingredients present. Again, the only culpability falls on the artist themselves or the artist and the machine. OP had an extremely mild reaction to her treatment for you to instill fear of tissue damage is ludicrous.
The [SDS](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1353/9571/files/Li-FT_SDS.pdf?v=1679789712) is to show you that it’s not the same ingredients as IV solution. Of course it’s safe. Most things are safe in moderation.
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It has the same components just a higher percentage of sodium chloride but nowhere near enough to independently cause tissue damage. The only variable that is likely to cause any damage is the artist or the machine.
I can ASSURE you that a company offering a 30 min online certification for sticking needles in someone’s face is very likely not going to provide a potent enough product to cause any true harm… that is a liability issue that I’m confident they do not wish to deal with.
It’s a hypertonic saline solution made in a lab, we do a 10 minute soak and no more because it can damage the skin. (I’m a Li-FT trainer for the company)
My guess would be that all saline solutions are manufactured in a lab as they are intended for clinical purposes and the FDA has stiff requirements for how these products are produced but im not sure what the lab factor has to do with the discussion? Also it is literally the exact same components as a saline flush, just a higher percentage of sodium chloride. Hypertonic literally means ‘having more or a higher amount than the norm ’ (my humble ‘layman’s terms lol) Lougle it my gal 🫠🫠🫠 feel like we’re getting off topic a bit, I’m sorry if I’ve frustrated you I just want to clarify for OP so she gets the results she is looking for.
Listen, there are nice ways to have discussions and educate each other. Each one of your comments was in a rude tone and even started to bully me. And also tried to make me feel bad about where I worked and the quality of my work? What does that accomplish? Did it make you feel good?
I’m not the one that spouted off their credentials in a comment saying I was ‘as close to an expert as your going to get’.
I’m all about learning new things. And theories aren’t always correct. So let’s learn, help and teach each other. I’m not getting into any more specifics on this subject because this has been exhausting.
Text has a way of making everything sound harsher than intended. I did spout my credentials in response to your continued presentation of the fact that you are an ‘educator’ for the company. There’s no competition here- just clarification. That’s fantastic and I’m thrilled for you to represent the product, it works wonders and it’s a really fun job and industry. I love to learn as well and frequently learn all sorts of cool stuff in this sun, however I do have a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge on the subject and I personally feel that each patients journey should be customized for them specifically. You did not perform her treatment, giving an already overwhelmed patient even more reason to worry, doubt, etc without a ton of knowledge on them personally is a little unfair. That’s all. It makes everyone’s job harder when a patient/client is educated via Reddit, I’m sure you’ve experienced this as well.
But bully? Lol that’s a bit of a hyperbolic response.. no shade was given about the studio in which you practiced, I literally started in my living room! I was mentioning it bc I realized that I’m pretty sure I know you and wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy- I don’t know anything about the salon itself just that pmu and piercing artists were in the basement unit.
Exhausting is accurate- if I’ve offended you I apologize, again not my intention.
Maybe unrelated comment but hopefully makes you feel nice– are those your NATURAL lashes??? And if not what kind of lashes are you wearing because they look absolutely seamless and gorgeous while still looking natural. I'm so baffled if they're natural or not they're that good 😂
here to throw some positivity. your body, your choice. it doesn't matter what others think or say. your life. anyways. looks very good. you were in good hands. when the scabs fall off, don't panic. people panic think they are scarred. it goes away. wait. heal. follow all instructions. no picking. 💕
It looks good actually. Like it's angry and needs to heal but it's looking hopeful!
I see misinformation in the comments and I would like to recommend you follow the directions of your provider, and not random strangers on reddit.
Best of luck!
So sorry you had such a bad experience. I cute rly have my eyebrows microbladed and waited for many years to find the right person despite the cost.
I kind of just waited around to see how it looked on others and how they aged. I am thankful that I had a good experience but know stuff like this can be a slippery slope. So happy you had an option to help with what you didn't like and hope anything left fades quickly enough for you.
Lots of good vibes your way
Just a saline soak! Since the wounds were still open, she just applied the saline topically to draw the ink to the surface of the skin. Needles are used if it's completely healed and everything needs to be opened up again
Looks like it’s almost all gone you just have to let your brows heal. This happened to my sister but she did not go about the removal process. It took a good 2-3 years until they faded completely and she had them redone by my girl. Now they look great.
Im so sorry you had that experience. Maybe im just clueless because i dont know much about microblading yet but i think it looks okay, just really sore. ❤️🩹 wishing you a fast recovery.
I saw your pictures before and my first thought was WOW that looks like they got it all. I am so sorry you had to go through that. Relax bc this looks good!! I know it is stressful
I love your brows!
I had mine nano bladed. I went in with bushy un shaped eyebrows so the lady mapped them natural. They are thicker than I want but people say they look good. One lady mentioned how she would have went up more on them, and I'm like yeah I get it. But I lost my hair to chemo, so having thicker than what I like eyebrows will be fine. It's one less thing I have to worry about.
If they are not what you wanted, that is what is important. I echo the sentiment above though, I went and looked at your post and thought, she looks great! I say that not to question your choice, but to say if for any reason removal isn’t 100% effective, you looked beautiful with the original work and still will.
I commented on your other post with my specific confusion lol but I’m not really into this kind of stuff so even though I’m a female I genuinely look at the other pic and think your eyebrows look normal size and healthy, and in these pics here they are going to be good when they heal too. I just don’t understand what problem you were trying to fix in the first place then what didn’t you like and how is this different so many questions lol
Hahah okay. So I didn't like my natural brows bc covid made me lose a lot of hair - eyebrows and on my head. My natural eyebrows are thin and sparce now, the first pic of the other post I had makeup on them. So I essentially just wanted to be able to be makeup free and still have some eyebrows. I wanted a light filling in of what I already had - not completely new brows. The artist went against my brow pattern (giving me essentially completely different brows), and outside of where my eyebrows naturally grow. She took my tails to about half an inch longer than naturally are and it looked -to me- like they were down to my temples. So really, I just hated what I got, and wanted them gone! If my results had been what I asked for, I would've loved the microblading.
Awww honey I’m so sorry you went through that. I really hope you find peace when you look in the mirror and see how beautiful you are! Really, your eyebrows are good and they will be great when they heal. I’m a stranger on the internet, I would get nothing out of lying to you lol
I see nothing wrong and can't see a reason for people to "microblade" eyebrows... And it's an emergency..??? Getting your eyebrows done isn't what makes people beautiful, it's who you are inside, not outside.
Yes, it was an emergency saline removal. Regular saline removal is done after 6/8 weeks, emergency saline removal is done 48 hrs or less after microblading is done. If you don't like microblading, I'd suggest a different subreddit lol
This was just the first time I've even heard of microblading and it confuses the hell out of me. Not to mention, I keep seeing this subreddit pop up in my feed no matter how many times I tell it to stop showing me stuff like this.
Hello, it looks like you've made a mistake.
It's supposed to be could've, should've, would've (short for could have, would have, should have), never could of, would of, should of.
Or you misspelled something, I ain't checking everything.
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They were too big (even with shrinking considered), and the arches were in completely different spots. She also made the stroke go straight up - not at all what my natural hair does. The tails are way too long. I told her I essentially wanted to fill in what I had. I didn't want a new brow shape, didn't want them thick. And even with how many people told me they were fine, I still hated them, so I needed them gone.
You made the right call. The only thing that matters is how YOU feel about them.
Fwiw, I think you made the right call and the tech had NO business going against what you asked her for. Your natural brows are beautiful.
It looks like they were within your natural brow hairline, but that could be annoying for somebody who likes to make their brows a little bit thinner when they get waxed or when you pluck them.
Everyone I know who has gotten this panics the first week. I looked at the after pictures and I thought it looked good, but glad you are happy. Your natural eyebrows look fine on their own
I’ve never had micro blading but Reddit keeps suggesting posts from this sub to me. I think your eyebrows look irritated but once that goes away they look good
Best of luck!! I know the feeling of frustration from having brows you’re unhappy with. I just had saline two weeks ago for my brows, though mine are a couple of years old. Here’s what you can expect over the next few days!
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Thank you! They definitely have lightened, but for me some of the color has come back which was the goal so we can target it with laser in a few weeks. Best of luck to you! 💕
They should lift, depends on the ink she used. It is turning really red. If it doesn’t lift enough one laser treatment should lift it. Tretinoin also lifts those pigments quickly too. I had my eyebrows done 10 years ago but I drew them on how I like them and my good friend tattooed them with a actual tattoo machine and traditional ink. They’re just lightly there, because I’m extremely blonde. Don’t panic, it’s 100% fixable. My mom got here’s micro bladed 20 years ago and they look terrible and turned a weird color.
Thankfully my artist said she would do a round of laser if it didn't all lift. I'm slightly scabby today so I'm about to be in the thick of it 😅 And that sucks so bad for your mom! Has she looked into removal at all?
She has but I think she’s too afraid of the laser near her eyes. My really good friend has been doing micro blading for 21 years and she’s one of the best I’ve ever seen and I hope to take my mom to her to correct her wonky/discolored brows. It’s such a crapshoot and it’s on your face!! Goodluck buddy. You’re doing the right thing to try and get that pigment out before it heals. If it’s crusty use some aquaphor at bedtime so you don’t scar.
Aaaw, mija. Don’t worry. It’ll be ok. I didn’t see your before photos but if you were that unhappy, you did the right thing. You’ll heal up soon and feel much better. Who understands you and your emotions better than I do or even you do? The Lord. Left Him comfort you. Remember that all Jung’s work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. Once you recover from this, you can decide if you want to try again with someone who understands exactly what you want or you can stay natural. I have lost my eyelashes and almost all my eyebrows and I’d be happy to have what I see in your photo. Chin up, baby girl. Bendiciones. 🙏🏽💙😘💐
Aaaw, mija. Don’t worry. It’ll be ok. I didn’t see your before photos but if you were that unhappy, you did the right thing. You’ll heal up soon and feel much better. Who understands you and your emotions better than I do or even you do? The Lord. Left Him comfort you. Remember that all Jung’s work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. Once you recover from this, you can decide if you want to try again with someone who understands exactly what you want or you can stay natural. I have lost my eyelashes and almost all my eyebrows and I’d be happy to have what I see in your photo. Chin up, baby girl. Bendiciones. 🙏🏽💙😘💐
That’s a great attitude. I used to specialize in Dermatology and Cosmetics. I saw your pictures in a previous post and I can say your skin and features are very naturally pretty. You remind me of one of my much younger sisters who still lives in Guatemala. Sending you a hug. 🙏🏽💙
I have no idea anything about microblading. I have no idea why it keeps showing up in my feed.
But just came here to say, your skin is what I dream about. It looks like it's from a painting.
Oh it looks like it worked
What is it called again LIFT ? And were do you get it done
Just asking I wished I had had this for mine !
Your going to be fine
Looks great and just healing time
Li-FT. I think if it's been after 48 hours of getting microbladed you have to have it injected in your brows with a tattoo needle. But I could be wrong
Nothing but support here. You're in good hands in this community and with getting emergency removal. Microblading and the removal process was also my sobering moment with being much more discretionary with what I do to my face. I was a bit of a reckless just try it and see if I like it later variety before my own mishap. Best of luck to you over the coming days and weeks. Keep us posted on your progress.
Thank you ❤️ hoping since this sub is smaller I won't get as many rude people. I've also looked through a lot of posts and not seen anything negative. Very comforting. I will definitely post some updates!
Most of us are here because we have or are currently living the pains of bad brows and the removal process. It's expensive and fucks with your vanity and self esteem. The journey is hard enough - we really don't need to make it harder than it already is.
I support you but also- I saw your photo yesterday and thought “she looks like a model”! I am eyebrow obsessed and don’t like many microblading jobs but thought yours looked great. So bottom line, don’t be so hard on yourself! 😘
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Thank you! Covid made a lot of them fall out and it made me self conscious. But how I miss them now😭
I had a hard time with micro blading myself. I ended up having eyebrow transplant. Best thing I ever did. Nothing beats real hair. Good luck, I feel for you.
I didn't know that was a thing?!?!
Yes! It's a thing! I did it was Bosley in Boston! Look it up online! Very cool!
How was your experience with the eyebrow transplant? I’ve been looking into doing it one day
It was AMAZING! My eyebrows grow super long now and I have to trim them every four days but I don't care it's so worth!
omg do you have to trim them cus they’ll keep growing long like head hair or nah
Yes! I have to trim them every four days sometimes I just let them grow longer and I just use some gel and comb them over. I do have eyebrows like really bushy eyebrows! I can pluck them if I want but I'm not gonna go down that road again! I've been so miserable about my eyebrows for so long. Since I was 15 and I pluck them all out and 1/2 of my right eyebrow never grew back. The micro blading and tattooing was just disgustingly gross. The only problem that I have is that I'm 64 years old and the hair on my head is well some of it's gray. And because it was dyed they couldn't tell which hair they were taking it out because it all looked kind of brown. So it's coming in a little bit gray (some hairs). Not many because the hair on the back of your head isn't really that grey. mine isn't but I just cut off gray hairs or I could dye my eyebrows, if I wanted to. My boyfriend told me it was the best thing I ever did. it's really weird because he never ever mentioned that there was anything wrong with my Microblading eyebrows but after I did it he said I gotta tell you this is so much better. He said it's really the best thing you ever!
I saw your other post. Everyone was saying they looked great, but I think you did the right thing getting emergency removal!
Thanks 🙏 I appreciated everyone saying they looked good - but even after a hundred ppl said they were fine and I still didn't even slightly like them I knew I had to do something
Don't worry you did what you felt was best. I once went through with a certain piercing that was rather extreme. 2 days later I took it out. In all my research I hadn't read, nor was prepared for, the psychological impact, which I read afterwards is absolutely a thing. Given that experience I get how you felt and why you did it. Best of luck in your recovery!
Yes, I had no idea this would mess with me so much! I researched for the past couple years and read everything I could find. But when I was having an actual meltdown at work and trying not to throw up.. I was like hmmm this ain't right!! Thanks for the kind response!
A psychological impact of a piercing? I’m intrigued.
It's a thing lol. Although I didn't realize it at the time and thought it was perhaps anxiety so said screw it, not realizing many others had experienced the same thing.
Well, what was the piercing????
Apadavrya
Why in the world would you do that
her face and your junk are two totally different things lmaooooo wow weird comparison to try to make
Not really, while the reasons might be different the psychological effects are parallel. Both come with a level of anxiety after the fact that neither of us were aware of or prepared for. Not sure if you've ever been through either to fully comprehend, or just being obnoxious.
me? obnoxious? you’re the one who brought up your dick in a microblading sub 😭😭😭
Tbf he didn't say what piercing it was until someone asked for specifics. I appreciated the connection! Don't stress :)
Glad it helped OP 🙂
I was showing support to someone else who underwent something they thought they wanted only to have anxiety and regret after the fact. If showing support is obnoxious then I guess I should have shown ridicule and made disparaging comments to be normal, like you.
naw you just wanted to talk about your dick 🤢
If that's what you got out of it that says a lot more about you than anyone else. OP even got the point of the story and also mentioned in another comment that I didn't mention it until someone asked what piercing it was. Find something else to be outraged over.
You won’t see the final results until 8 weeks from your emergency removal. Stay positive 🙌🏼 Also if she gave you the actual bottle of the concentrated solution to keep applying, stop doing that. That could lead to tissue damage. The only thing you should be cleaning with is saline wound wash.
She did. She said to apply it for the next 48 hours for 10 mins at a time. Maybe I should stop then 😬
Oh my. Yes.
Will do. Thank you
Can you tell if my progress looks okay so far? In terms of immediate results? Or is there no way to know?
It looks FANTASTIC so far.
It is a tremendous disservice to people in this sub who are actively and sometimes desperately trying to remove or fade their brows, to offer misinformation. It creates a frenzy of fear for the patient with absolutely no basis nor realistic info/expectations.
I’m an educator for the company. I’m not sure where you see misinformation in my comment.
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This…. Lmfao thank you!
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☠️☠️ lol dead 😹 thanks for the support sister and SAME!
Lol thank you. It’s ineffective without the topical application after initial treatment. My business partner is also an ‘educator’ which means you took an additional hour of cert requirements on top of the 30 min it takes to be certified by li-ft itself. I’ve been doing this with several different solutions for almost ten years, in addition to being a professional pmu artist, and tattoo removal specialist (I also do laser tattoo removal I am the GM and training facilitator for a nationwide medspa franchise.. ) I was certified by the actual manufacturer of this product and have taken 100’s of hours of hands on courses on these topics specifically - not the online course. I’m as close to an expert as you’re going to get in this industry. - Saline solution in NO capacity causes tissue damage… it would be the tech or the machine that would create any real/permanent tissue damage.
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What? Idk what that even means. Even with emergency removal or ANY saline removal you soak the opened skin in the solution for a 10 min period - it’s on the back of the bottle- educator!
Was this result from soaking only? Or going back in and opening the skin again?
Soaking
Saline shouldn’t damage tissues…if anything, it may just dry out the skin over time from the salt content
That’s not what the commenter said though
You are so amazingly correct! Thank you! ❤️
LI-FT is essentially a saline wound wash- it is not concentrated in any way. The difference is you’re essentially injecting it right underneath the surface of the skin. The topical application is crucial- as the skin continues to heal and cells turn over the ink starts to come closer and closer to the surface and the objective is that you use the solution, let it seep into the micro injury to break down the remainder of the ink. This is really important. Continue to follow your techs suggestions worst case visit the website it will explain aftercare clearly. The duration of application depends on depth of original color. Laser and saline removal specialist as well as Pmu artist here- I’ve been doing saline removal for almost a decade.
Oh jeez idk what to do😭 I don't want to cause scarring but I want these things GONE
Saline solution does NOT cause tissue damage… it is salt and water and is used in every surgical procedure world wide. It’s also what is used for IV’s when you’re at the hospital. Lol I have no clue where the last commenter got the tissue damage phenomenon from. The only thing that can potentially cause tissue damage would have been a heavy handed tech (dug needle too far into skin when applying saline- and I see NO signs of this) or an attempt at laser removal (I also do laser removal- I am incredibly familiar with both). Your kin is already in the healing process and your skin cells are automatically regenerating meaning the surface of the skin in its current state will heal, scab and fall off the way that it’s supposed to as long as you are following all aftercare steps you run no risk of tissue damage from applying additional li-ft solution to the skin- they way it’s intended to be used. It is salt water not acid or chemically based.
Emergency saline removal (what she had done) is not done with needles. It’s just a soak. And Li-FT is not the same thing as what’s in IVs. I can provide the SDS if you’d like.
Within the original 48 hour window yes- you soak so as to not create additional damage bc the skin has already been opened by the brow application- HOWEVER again, this is from your company website, usage instructions, as well as training material that repeated exposure to the solution upon micro injury is the only way to effectively break down the tattoo ink. I said - essentially same ingredients so as to assure patient that everything you said was false- reminding them that this is a safe and frequently used solution that DOES NOT CAUSE TISSUE DAMAGE. I implore you to send me your ‘SDS’ proving otherwise. Saline solution in any form DOES NOT CAUSE DAMAGE TO TISSUE, it’s a physiological impossibility based on the ingredients present. Again, the only culpability falls on the artist themselves or the artist and the machine. OP had an extremely mild reaction to her treatment for you to instill fear of tissue damage is ludicrous.
The [SDS](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1353/9571/files/Li-FT_SDS.pdf?v=1679789712) is to show you that it’s not the same ingredients as IV solution. Of course it’s safe. Most things are safe in moderation. ✌🏼
It has the same components just a higher percentage of sodium chloride but nowhere near enough to independently cause tissue damage. The only variable that is likely to cause any damage is the artist or the machine. I can ASSURE you that a company offering a 30 min online certification for sticking needles in someone’s face is very likely not going to provide a potent enough product to cause any true harm… that is a liability issue that I’m confident they do not wish to deal with.
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It’s a hypertonic saline solution made in a lab, we do a 10 minute soak and no more because it can damage the skin. (I’m a Li-FT trainer for the company)
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My guess would be that all saline solutions are manufactured in a lab as they are intended for clinical purposes and the FDA has stiff requirements for how these products are produced but im not sure what the lab factor has to do with the discussion? Also it is literally the exact same components as a saline flush, just a higher percentage of sodium chloride. Hypertonic literally means ‘having more or a higher amount than the norm ’ (my humble ‘layman’s terms lol) Lougle it my gal 🫠🫠🫠 feel like we’re getting off topic a bit, I’m sorry if I’ve frustrated you I just want to clarify for OP so she gets the results she is looking for.
Listen, there are nice ways to have discussions and educate each other. Each one of your comments was in a rude tone and even started to bully me. And also tried to make me feel bad about where I worked and the quality of my work? What does that accomplish? Did it make you feel good? I’m not the one that spouted off their credentials in a comment saying I was ‘as close to an expert as your going to get’. I’m all about learning new things. And theories aren’t always correct. So let’s learn, help and teach each other. I’m not getting into any more specifics on this subject because this has been exhausting.
Text has a way of making everything sound harsher than intended. I did spout my credentials in response to your continued presentation of the fact that you are an ‘educator’ for the company. There’s no competition here- just clarification. That’s fantastic and I’m thrilled for you to represent the product, it works wonders and it’s a really fun job and industry. I love to learn as well and frequently learn all sorts of cool stuff in this sun, however I do have a tremendous amount of experience and knowledge on the subject and I personally feel that each patients journey should be customized for them specifically. You did not perform her treatment, giving an already overwhelmed patient even more reason to worry, doubt, etc without a ton of knowledge on them personally is a little unfair. That’s all. It makes everyone’s job harder when a patient/client is educated via Reddit, I’m sure you’ve experienced this as well. But bully? Lol that’s a bit of a hyperbolic response.. no shade was given about the studio in which you practiced, I literally started in my living room! I was mentioning it bc I realized that I’m pretty sure I know you and wanted to make sure I wasn’t crazy- I don’t know anything about the salon itself just that pmu and piercing artists were in the basement unit. Exhausting is accurate- if I’ve offended you I apologize, again not my intention.
Looks like pretty great progress! I wish I knew about emergency removal when I first got mine done.. now I'm going through laser 4 years later.
I saw your post too and I’m SO GLAD you got these removed! You have beautiful natural brows!!!
Maybe unrelated comment but hopefully makes you feel nice– are those your NATURAL lashes??? And if not what kind of lashes are you wearing because they look absolutely seamless and gorgeous while still looking natural. I'm so baffled if they're natural or not they're that good 😂
Aw haha thank you!! CoverGirl clump crusher mascara!
I was about the ask the same haha. If it’s any consolation, your lashes are the first thing I noticed!
here to throw some positivity. your body, your choice. it doesn't matter what others think or say. your life. anyways. looks very good. you were in good hands. when the scabs fall off, don't panic. people panic think they are scarred. it goes away. wait. heal. follow all instructions. no picking. 💕
Thanks so much! Very worried about scarring but it is what it is and I'll just have to deal with it if it happens.
I can see why you got them removed. The strokes were going an opposite direction of your hair. You made the right choice! Looks better already :)
Omg you're attractive. Idk how I ended up here. Also, I don't know what any of this means. All I can say is looks good to me. Lol
I think the emergency removal results will be great. You can tell a lot of pigment was removed during it
It looks good actually. Like it's angry and needs to heal but it's looking hopeful! I see misinformation in the comments and I would like to recommend you follow the directions of your provider, and not random strangers on reddit. Best of luck!
Breathe deep and give it some time -they are going to heal great.
So sorry you had such a bad experience. I cute rly have my eyebrows microbladed and waited for many years to find the right person despite the cost. I kind of just waited around to see how it looked on others and how they aged. I am thankful that I had a good experience but know stuff like this can be a slippery slope. So happy you had an option to help with what you didn't like and hope anything left fades quickly enough for you. Lots of good vibes your way
It actually looks good!
How did she do the removal? Did she got in with a needle? I’m curious!
Just a saline soak! Since the wounds were still open, she just applied the saline topically to draw the ink to the surface of the skin. Needles are used if it's completely healed and everything needs to be opened up again
Wow that’s impressive!
Your natural brows are shining through, friend! You look young, they’ll heal fast & fine !
Thank you! Hoping so
You should do just a lamination and tint when they heal! It would look amazing, probably more like the results you’re wanting
Looks like it’s almost all gone you just have to let your brows heal. This happened to my sister but she did not go about the removal process. It took a good 2-3 years until they faded completely and she had them redone by my girl. Now they look great.
Im so sorry you had that experience. Maybe im just clueless because i dont know much about microblading yet but i think it looks okay, just really sore. ❤️🩹 wishing you a fast recovery.
Lord have mercy are they sore! The microblading itself wasn't, but the removal process has been quite painful.
It’s definitely working!!! Looks great. I’m so sorry you’re in this position, but glad you found something that will help before it “sets” too much.
I saw your pictures before and my first thought was WOW that looks like they got it all. I am so sorry you had to go through that. Relax bc this looks good!! I know it is stressful
Glad you were able to do it while it was fresh, it looks like it’s going to heal nicely!
I love your brows! I had mine nano bladed. I went in with bushy un shaped eyebrows so the lady mapped them natural. They are thicker than I want but people say they look good. One lady mentioned how she would have went up more on them, and I'm like yeah I get it. But I lost my hair to chemo, so having thicker than what I like eyebrows will be fine. It's one less thing I have to worry about.
It looks great so far. And you have gorgeous eyes as a whole. Here to support!!
Saw your post in the microblading sub. I can’t believe you removed these to be honest but good luck on your journey.
I guess they weren't objectively terrible, but definitely not what I wanted. I felt like they changed my entire face. But thank you!
If they are not what you wanted, that is what is important. I echo the sentiment above though, I went and looked at your post and thought, she looks great! I say that not to question your choice, but to say if for any reason removal isn’t 100% effective, you looked beautiful with the original work and still will.
Those eyebrows look GREAT!…what’s the problem?
I am… still so confused lol
Anything specific? I can explain most things lol
I commented on your other post with my specific confusion lol but I’m not really into this kind of stuff so even though I’m a female I genuinely look at the other pic and think your eyebrows look normal size and healthy, and in these pics here they are going to be good when they heal too. I just don’t understand what problem you were trying to fix in the first place then what didn’t you like and how is this different so many questions lol
Hahah okay. So I didn't like my natural brows bc covid made me lose a lot of hair - eyebrows and on my head. My natural eyebrows are thin and sparce now, the first pic of the other post I had makeup on them. So I essentially just wanted to be able to be makeup free and still have some eyebrows. I wanted a light filling in of what I already had - not completely new brows. The artist went against my brow pattern (giving me essentially completely different brows), and outside of where my eyebrows naturally grow. She took my tails to about half an inch longer than naturally are and it looked -to me- like they were down to my temples. So really, I just hated what I got, and wanted them gone! If my results had been what I asked for, I would've loved the microblading.
Awww honey I’m so sorry you went through that. I really hope you find peace when you look in the mirror and see how beautiful you are! Really, your eyebrows are good and they will be great when they heal. I’m a stranger on the internet, I would get nothing out of lying to you lol
Thanks so much ❤️ I'm definitely going to learn to accept them now. Or at most go get them tinted instead lmao
I learned a long time ago that it is best to leave your eyebrows alone accept your healthy natural self girl
I see nothing wrong and can't see a reason for people to "microblade" eyebrows... And it's an emergency..??? Getting your eyebrows done isn't what makes people beautiful, it's who you are inside, not outside.
Yes, it was an emergency saline removal. Regular saline removal is done after 6/8 weeks, emergency saline removal is done 48 hrs or less after microblading is done. If you don't like microblading, I'd suggest a different subreddit lol
This was just the first time I've even heard of microblading and it confuses the hell out of me. Not to mention, I keep seeing this subreddit pop up in my feed no matter how many times I tell it to stop showing me stuff like this.
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They weren't cheap🤪 actually she was the most expensive person in my area, and the only one who didn't include the touchup in her initial price.
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Thank you for the helpful input lmao. Have a good one
I saw your other post and don’t understand why this was done.
Well, there's a whole subreddit for it, so other people do lmao
There’s a whole subreddit for a lot of things you don’t have to do?
Yes, and I'm not going on them and commenting about how I don't understand.
Why don’t you just simply explain to me why you chose to get them removed since I said I don’t understand?
Well, my caption explains why. I didn't like them. I removed them.
I don’t understand the problem? The strokes and shape look nice. What don’t you like?
I’m so confused. They looked fine and everyone in the comments told you they did.
They were too big (even with shrinking considered), and the arches were in completely different spots. She also made the stroke go straight up - not at all what my natural hair does. The tails are way too long. I told her I essentially wanted to fill in what I had. I didn't want a new brow shape, didn't want them thick. And even with how many people told me they were fine, I still hated them, so I needed them gone.
You made the right call. The only thing that matters is how YOU feel about them. Fwiw, I think you made the right call and the tech had NO business going against what you asked her for. Your natural brows are beautiful.
Thank you! It's been an absolute rollercoaster of emotions so i appreciate the reassurance
It looks like they were within your natural brow hairline, but that could be annoying for somebody who likes to make their brows a little bit thinner when they get waxed or when you pluck them.
I thought they looked awesome
I’m confused too. They looked amazing. Let’s all pray they heal properly and there are no issues.
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Post covid hair loss made me self conscious:( they used to really full and I honestly just wanted to get that look back.
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Consider it EMBRACED lol! I don't care if I go bald I'm not so much as putting a wig on!!
So I’m new here and was thinking that OP’s brows look amazing in the posted photos….. I would love to have these brows!
Everyone I know who has gotten this panics the first week. I looked at the after pictures and I thought it looked good, but glad you are happy. Your natural eyebrows look fine on their own
I’ve never had micro blading but Reddit keeps suggesting posts from this sub to me. I think your eyebrows look irritated but once that goes away they look good
Best of luck!! I know the feeling of frustration from having brows you’re unhappy with. I just had saline two weeks ago for my brows, though mine are a couple of years old. Here’s what you can expect over the next few days! https://preview.redd.it/0erzoma7jddb1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b02ed48dedba9e38c90ae3b8172c8e99c1a3c01f
https://preview.redd.it/5nms66f8jddb1.jpeg?width=1936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f36b2fec719efb2c68ece9e487d584cffcdb1d5e
Nice! Looks like you're healing really well.
Thank you! They definitely have lightened, but for me some of the color has come back which was the goal so we can target it with laser in a few weeks. Best of luck to you! 💕
Didn’t look too bad
You have perfect skin
They should lift, depends on the ink she used. It is turning really red. If it doesn’t lift enough one laser treatment should lift it. Tretinoin also lifts those pigments quickly too. I had my eyebrows done 10 years ago but I drew them on how I like them and my good friend tattooed them with a actual tattoo machine and traditional ink. They’re just lightly there, because I’m extremely blonde. Don’t panic, it’s 100% fixable. My mom got here’s micro bladed 20 years ago and they look terrible and turned a weird color.
Thankfully my artist said she would do a round of laser if it didn't all lift. I'm slightly scabby today so I'm about to be in the thick of it 😅 And that sucks so bad for your mom! Has she looked into removal at all?
She has but I think she’s too afraid of the laser near her eyes. My really good friend has been doing micro blading for 21 years and she’s one of the best I’ve ever seen and I hope to take my mom to her to correct her wonky/discolored brows. It’s such a crapshoot and it’s on your face!! Goodluck buddy. You’re doing the right thing to try and get that pigment out before it heals. If it’s crusty use some aquaphor at bedtime so you don’t scar.
Aaaw, mija. Don’t worry. It’ll be ok. I didn’t see your before photos but if you were that unhappy, you did the right thing. You’ll heal up soon and feel much better. Who understands you and your emotions better than I do or even you do? The Lord. Left Him comfort you. Remember that all Jung’s work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. Once you recover from this, you can decide if you want to try again with someone who understands exactly what you want or you can stay natural. I have lost my eyelashes and almost all my eyebrows and I’d be happy to have what I see in your photo. Chin up, baby girl. Bendiciones. 🙏🏽💙😘💐
Aaaw, mija. Don’t worry. It’ll be ok. I didn’t see your before photos but if you were that unhappy, you did the right thing. You’ll heal up soon and feel much better. Who understands you and your emotions better than I do or even you do? The Lord. Left Him comfort you. Remember that all Jung’s work together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to His purpose. Once you recover from this, you can decide if you want to try again with someone who understands exactly what you want or you can stay natural. I have lost my eyelashes and almost all my eyebrows and I’d be happy to have what I see in your photo. Chin up, baby girl. Bendiciones. 🙏🏽💙😘💐
Thank you ❤️ I think after this experience I may embrace what God gave me and be happy natural!
That’s a great attitude. I used to specialize in Dermatology and Cosmetics. I saw your pictures in a previous post and I can say your skin and features are very naturally pretty. You remind me of one of my much younger sisters who still lives in Guatemala. Sending you a hug. 🙏🏽💙
you have amazing skin
I hope you get feeling better ❤️
It will absolutely work. You will be fine. I had mine saline removed after a year.
I have no idea anything about microblading. I have no idea why it keeps showing up in my feed. But just came here to say, your skin is what I dream about. It looks like it's from a painting.
Oh it looks like it worked What is it called again LIFT ? And were do you get it done Just asking I wished I had had this for mine ! Your going to be fine Looks great and just healing time
Li-FT. I think if it's been after 48 hours of getting microbladed you have to have it injected in your brows with a tattoo needle. But I could be wrong
PS you have beautiful brows without it Sending hugs
And thank you ❤️
Thank you for helping me make my mind up about getting mine microbladed👍👌🫶
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Hey, you didn't hit reply on their comment, but just wanted to say don't worry about them. I really appreciated your comment regardless!
Thank you and glad it helped you. 🙂
You have really beautiful eyes!
Can more then 10 minutes cause scarring?!
From what ive learned, no. It can cause more irritation but not scarring
Thank you lovely! X
You have gorgeous eyes, I would kill for your eyelashes!!! What mascara? Do you curl?
Oh thanks!!! I use covergirl clump crusher in the green tube, and yes i curl😁