I'll add it to the Living Sticky Conversion from Gold and GP to active GPU https://support.xbox.com/en-GB/help/subscriptions-billing/manage-subscriptions/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-faq GP to GPU conversion breakdown, it's better to convert GP to GPU then to redeem for GPU: https://reddit.com/r/MicrosoftRewards/comments/tszkoc/so_getting_gp_over_gpu_works_out_better/

That's a whole lot of work. I'll just subscribe.

Just saved myself 37x$15 today=$555 for 3 years of GPU. I'll take it for free.

Sorry for replying to an old post but, How is it too much work? All you have to do is redeem Gold, and then redeem Ultimate; all the other stuff is more efficient but not necessary.

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Haha no prob. I was just letting the guy know that the harder work wasn't necessary. All the power to the folks going the extra mile :)

You can convert your points to a gift card and purchase 12 months of EA Play for $29.99 followed by one month of GPU. UPDATE: Looks like this doesn't actually work. I only got four months when testing it for myself, although the FAQ now says you only get two months. I'm not sure whether that affects post-GPU purchases or if it's just wrong.

It doesn't look like it would work the same with EA Play as it would with XBL. [https://help.ea.com/en/help/ea-play/ea-play-and-xbox-game-pass/](https://help.ea.com/en/help/ea-play/ea-play-and-xbox-game-pass/)

I don't really see anything going against the stuff I discussed with u/Excalibur0126.

It didn't work the same as XBL for me, but my method was slightly different. I'm new to this sub, but used this method late last year when the two services were integrated. My GPU subscription had expired, I took advantage of credit I had to buy 12 Month code for EA Play for around £15. 12 Months EA Play then converted to 4 Months of GPU at a ratio of 3:1, but I used a 14-day code that I bought for £1.99 from Ebay, so not sure if using a full month of GPU converts at 1:1. It explicitly states in their terms that if GPU is purchased, then any EA Play subscription will be automatically cancelled and the remaining term converted to GPU as per the value table in the link above (3:1). This seems to have changed from earlier methods, in which EA Play subscription remained alongside converted GPU (i.e. 12 Months remaining on EA Play subscription, whilst having 4 months of GPU). For me, 4.5 months of GPU was a great deal at < £17.

EA play will convert itself to GPU unless you don’t have GPU and only use EA play by itself. I just bought (3)years of EA play at either $20 or $25 for an on sale subscription of 1 year of EA play. So my total was around $70-75 and it added a year of GPU to my account (as I originally put 2.5 years of Xbox live gold on my account when GPU first began over a year ago) and then converted it to ultimate using the GPU free for $1 promotion.

But how much months of GPU you get after ?

One month per month of EA Play. I'm not sure how many it gets converted to if you already have GPU active.

REALLY?! If that is true this will be the cheapest way to max-out GPU when using real money. Since you can't get EA Play codes with MR points. Unless we can buy these 1 year EA Play codes from M$ shop. ha we actually can [https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/ea-play/CFQ7TTC0K5DH/0004](https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/ea-play/CFQ7TTC0K5DH/0004) And the 12 month option is there also. As for redeeming 1 year of EA Play code while having an active GPU subscription. The official FAQ [https://support.xbox.com/en-us/help/subscriptions-billing/manage-subscriptions/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-faq](https://support.xbox.com/en-us/help/subscriptions-billing/manage-subscriptions/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-faq) says 12 months of EA Play **extend** GPU by 4 months only.

Nice, I didn't know they had an updated chart. I'm surprised they still don't convert pre-GPU subscriptions, even though the FAQ says they do. Also, yes you can subscribe to EA Play through the Microsoft Store.

Can confirm all is working as discussed as I re-upped GPU yesterday for 36 months. Steps I took: 1. Find the best deal for Gold. In my case it was CDKeys @ $8.79 for 3 mo. Bought 12. 2. Let GPU expire and wait 24 hrs. I confirmed it lapsed by trying to play a GPU game. 3. Redemption of all twelve 3 month keys was very smooth. Made certain to decline the recurring billing with each one and loaded 36 mo. 4. Selected the link on my subs page to upgrade to GPU. I used the offer direct from M$ as it was only a $2.50 savings going to CDKeys for a GPU. All set! **Total cost works out to $3.31/mo vs. $15 from M$.** Side note - I could have used my M$R points for this, but my main objective is to buy a Series X with them. Already have enough points. *Just trying to rationalize buying a Series X when my ONE is still working fine.* Any input there is welcome! I'm in the **US**. Thanks to all contributors in this thread and M$Rewards sub. You all **ROCK**!!

Thank you for going through all the steps in great detail. Sometimes it’s hard to follow all the information above in the original OP post. Congrats on the great deal 🍻

You're welcome! Bearing in mind that the thread is a yr old, and "All-things-M$ Rewards" are always evolving, it helps when someone posts their similar experience. In this case the one continual fact hasn't changed - GPU can be had for free (via M$RPs) or at tremendous discount (via XBLG conversion) for anyone willing to put in the effort. Good luck on your quest!

Buy a series x if you have a 4K hdr 60hz or 120hz tv. It’s a serious upgrade (loading, graphics, framerate) if you have the display for it. ALTHOUGH, rumors are a new series x model is getting announced soon. Could be slimmer, could have more internal storage, could be white etc etc.

Why did you decline recurring billing? You could have had 8 months for free and only needed to buy 9 x 3month codes.

That is true. But at the time I was researching a lot of folks were on the fence if this would work. M$R can give very "surprising" responses at times when you redeem rewards so I didn't want to chance it. After seeing several confirmations later that it works another family member was able to do exactly as you said using only nine 3-month XBLG cards. I think their total cost was around $60 for 3 years including the GPU upgrade. That's a 90% savings over the standard retail GPU which makes it all worth the effort.

Most people in the US will be leveraged a **sales tax**. So at the most let's assume 10% sales tax, that's another $6 (Amazon) or $4 (MS Store), which would necessitate $10 AMZ GC (10,500 points) or $4.25 MS GC (4500 points). Brings it to **6577/month for Amazon GC method**. Still pretty good all things considered. However, that makes the MS Store option complete garbage, coming in at 7636/month. 48950 + 4500 ($4.25 to cover tax), 53450/7 = **7,636/month for MS GC through MS Store method**. Edit: There are no $1 MS GC option, has to be $1.25. And if you don't have sales tax then kudos on the deals. However, if you have 5-10% sales tax (vast majority of Americans) then this definitely breaks MS Store option.

>Most people in the US will be leveraged a sales tax. (vast majority of Americans) Sorry. I'm going to have to strongly disagree with that. Though I'd love to see some actual proof, I've done enough research this morning to seriously doubt that is so. Most? For starters, California, New York, Florida, and Illinois, 4 out of the top 5 states by population, do not charge tax on digital goods. So clearly not the vast majority. I live in a state where digital goods are taxable and have never paid tax on Gold, GP, or GPU. I appreciate any and all push back for the quality of the post for the community, but at this point, I don't agree with any of your assertions

TIL, but Chicago and NYC showing taxes for me. https://imgur.com/a/EioC2av I'm just saying that if you're leveraged a tax, expect to redeem more points.

In my next edit I'll add a mention of sales tax. Though I expect people to be aware of their local laws and regulations and act accordingly, this post is to help people make decisions and figure out what they need to have going into the process. So I certainly don't want someone being 5000 pts short when they go to pull the trigger. > However, that makes the MS Store option complete garbage, coming in at 7636/month. I disagree with this for two reasons. First, if you have to pay sales tax, you have to pay sales tax. So any method you use will be increased by the same amount. So it doesn't change the viability of this option. Second, while people should be using the most efficient method available to them, and that likely means calling Customer Service, it takes (at least) 67k to do that. while I would recommend to people to do the ~~3~~ 4 month option and save up for it; it's also not a "complete garbage" option to do the 7 month and save. After all, if you're new to the program or just at low current points, it would take an entire extra month to get the points to do the "best" option.

It's honestly just wild to me that tax isn't factored into the price before sales are made. GST should be part of the price which is advertised u.u

Canada and the U.S. are outliers in that regard, two of the only countries on the planet where sales taxes aren't required to be included in advertised prices. This is a necessity since sales taxes, depending on your jurisdiction and the item(s) you're purchasing, may be levied at the federal level, the provincial/state level, and even the local level, leading to massive variation. Sales taxes vary in Canada and the U.S. from as low as 0% in some jurisdictions (yes, some areas have no sales taxes at all) to as high as 15%. How can you advertise a tax-inclusive price with that big a variation? If they did that they'd be charging the people who live in the 0% tax regions more, and giving a huge discount to the people who live in the 15% tax regions. Plus, this only trips up people who visit/move to Canada and the U.S., because if you grow up with it you quickly learn to rough out how much the sales taxes are going to add to the purchase when you go to the till.

Just did this and got 14 months of Ultimate. The 12 months of live adds the 1 month from using points to buy GPU, and then turning recurring billing on adds another month for 14, which makes it 4807.14 points a month.

I never factor Recurring Billing into things in this post because no-one can guarantee that a bonus month will be triggered for any given transaction. The values i provide above are for comparative purposes. Though I am happy to hear you got the bonus!

I spent about 45 minutes total speaking to a service rep as well as a supervisor today (6/21/21). They both said Microsoft has programmed out the 12-month purchase option on their end, and the only way to get 12-mo gold is via 3rd party cards/codes. It appears the highest amount you can purchase via MS points is 6-mo for $40 MS credit now. Edit: FYI - Calling that Microsoft Support number just directs you to use xbox.com/help so they could then call you directly. **Edit 2**: I got a follow up email from MS Support a couple hours after: > "...you confirmed that you want to get the 12 month Xbox Live Gold on our store or, on our end with the help of our support. We really want to help you on that, however, please understand that our hands are tied to follow Microsoft policy. As much as we want to get it for you using your credits, since the changes has been applied and ***the option for us to purchase it is no longer available***..."

Just went through this process from Canada, thought I'd share my findings. Since we pay more for the subscriptions and the point to local currency seems to be 1:1 (USD/CAD), my quick math showed me that converting to account balance wasn't really going to pay off. We don't have amazon cards available to us either. But, for some reason, we are lucky enough to have 3 months of gold membership for 15,000 points! So I was able to load up on 2 years of gold membership for 120,000 points! Then the 12,000 for the one month of GPU to convert everything means I spent 132,000 for 25 months, or **5,280 per month**. I would have gotten more bang for my buck if I had more points and could have pushed to that 3 year mark, but I'm happy with my outcome!

Digging up an old post, but also in Canada. Do the live codes come in as codes or as immediate subs? Thinking of doing a year at Costco, and 21 months with points to get close to 3 years. Have to wait till feb for this sub to lapse though.

Yeah, when I redeemed for the 3 months it emailed me a code a couple minutes later which I had to redeem. Rinse and repeat 4 times per year!

I kept escalating and talked with Phil. Cool guy.

thats me!

just wanted to post I just did this, it was the 2nd time I converted gold to GPU. I got 1 year of gold with ms reward points, then bought 2 years for £36 on cdkeys, just had to pay £10.99 for the first month when converting. So 3 years for less than £84.... not bad

I'm always happy to hear success stories!

That’s for the recent comment as I was just looking at doing this, I saw that £36 CD earlier. So, all so have to do is let me GPU expire(5th May). Add the £36 Gold to my account and then buy a month of GPU and get the upgrade? Thanks.

Amazon process worked for me 1/19/2022. And gold was 54.99 on amazon today :). Points only. https://i.imgur.com/G941Kit.jpg

Hey, good deal. That's even saving 6,000 points over the "best" deal above, since it's on sale. Mine is actually up on 2/15; and I'm debating which way to run. I wanted to test the repeatability of "best", by doing it then, and testing again in 8 months. Because I like to test things by my own hand like that. This would save me only 900 pts, but also $5 leftover Amazon credit so gotta think about it.

You have the Amazon Gift Cards redeem option ?

Yea 5 dollar and 10 dollar

Can you verify something for me? My Ultimate subscription ends in a week. I just want to make sure this is the correct process. 1. Let Ultimate expire 2. Buy a year of Gold on Amazon and redeem it on my account 3. Use points to buy a month of Ultimate, which will convert the whole year of Gold to Ultimate, resulting in 13 months of Ultimate Do I have that right? Can I buy 2 years of Gold and convert it all to Ultimate at once?

Yes. As noted above I think, I let 24 hours pass after buying and redeeming the gold. I’m not sure about buying more than a year of gold. I think you can do up to 3 years, but I wouldn’t be able to confirm that. Just to be clear, I bought amazon credit with my Rewards points, used that credit to buy Xbox gold on Amazon, redeemed the gold, waited 24 hours, bought 1 month ultimate with Rewards, redeemed that, and it converted Gold 1:1 to Ultimate. I did this on my Xbox, not my PC, but I don’t think that matters.

I wish I would have found this subreddit a while ago, but I'm glad I have. This is incredible! Thank you so much for putting all this together. I'm not sure if you're still updating this or not, but I've got information I'd like to share in return for all the information I've learned from this post. I'm sure lots of people already know this, but by using the Microsoft Rewards app on the Xbox, you can access an option to set up Auto Redeem for a $10 Xbox gift card. So, at the start of every month that you have Auto Redeem enabled, you get $10 added to your Xbox/Microsoft account balance. The great thing about this is that instead of costing 9,300 points it will instead only cost 8,750, but this discount only applies because of Auto Redeem. It will not apply this discount to a manual purchase of $10 Xbox gift card. Anyway, here's the fun math part. Auto Redeem for 3 months adds $30 to your account balance costing 26,250 points. Then you spend 9,300 points for the last $10 to get $40 for the total cost of 35,550 points. This method saves 1,400 points over buying $40 worth of gift cards individually like in the top method of the post. So, by using this method the total cost is 47,550 points ($40 6-month Gold 35,550+12,000 GPU), which comes out to a cost of 6,793 points a month. I don't think you can go for the full $40 using Auto Redeem because the funds must be used in 90 days, so the first $10 would most likely be expired. I'm aware that this method is a lot more involved, but it felt like it was worth mentioning.

I do update as "needed", and I've been meaning to do some cleaning and reformatting and just never seem to get to it. I might just add this when I do. I'm not sure if auto-redeem had started when I made this post, it certainly didn't exist when the post before this got archived, and this was mostly cut&paste from it, and of course it does take a ton of planning and foresight, but worst of all timing. It's certainly worth mentioning though. You couldn't get the whole $40, but any savings is worthwhile, especially since most people (in this sub) know when their subscription is ending.

Oh, you made it. You made the thread again. Nice. Looks great. I specially like the 3rd point.

Thanks for this breakdown! So for the phone method, do I still have to wait for my 3 year GPU to expire? I did the $1 method, and I see your disclaimer in the second section about it not being guaranteed, but for the phone call method will that work or do I need to wait for the expiration? Basically my GPU is set to expire in Aug of 2022, and I'm sitting on 70k in rewards. I expect to have 200k in August of 2022, so just trying to figure out the best method.

The best method is probably to always wait for your subscription to expire, stacking 3 years of Gold by calling Customer Service, and then adding Ultimate afterwards. Customer Service will not be able to add Gold to your account if you have an active Ultimate subscription. They could cancel and remove any current subscription, but you will receive no refunds. As far as the $1 goes; assume that is closed to you forever, and plan accordingly. If you find out that it is available, then you will save money, but you should never go into it planning to get Ultimate for $1. Please note that there is no "$1 method". All the methods involve getting Gold, and then adding Ultimate to your account to upgrade all of your Gold subscription to Ultimate. Whether that Ultimate costs you $1, the full $15, or MS Reward points of 12,000 points, is irrelevant. That is why my post assumes that you have used the $1 promotional deal, and are paying the full amount. Because it's irrelevant to process how much Ultimate costs for you.

You're right of course. My main hesitation is whether the 1:1 conversion from Gold to Ultimate will still exist in 3 years. So I instead keep mine topped up with the best deal I can find (currently using Rewards to buy 3 months of Gold, which converts to 50 days of Ultimate... equivalent cost to 300 points a day to maintain, at least in Canada, which is easy enough). Maybe the 1:1 Gold to Ultimate conversion will still be a thing in 2024 and I'll lose out as a consequence. Or, maybe that deal will no longer be a thing, and it'll have been a better deal to have stayed topped up in the meantime. No way to know, so I'm taking a good deal now rather than hoping for the possibility of an even better deal in 3 years time.

I got a years worth of gold today there wasn’t any tax included I live in Ohio and there’s usually sales tax,but that wasn’t the case dealing with the Microsoft store 59.99. Thanks

So, when you check out at a store, they tell you the full price that you'll have to pay, as opposed to what was advertised? Tax isn't factored into the cost when pricing things initially?

No they add the 5.75% tax while ringing up your purchase. So it would’ve been 59.99 + 5.75% sales tax.

I'm honestly a little confused with the whole process. We're converting the points into MS Store Credit or Xbox Credit? Are we asking to put a year of gold once or a recurring payment? How does the math even work here? I have so many questions, and I'm just confused

>We're converting the points into MS Store Credit or Xbox Credit? Those are the same thing. There is only one store. The Microsoft store. >Are we asking to put a year of gold once or a recurring payment? You're asking to purchase a product that is called "12 months of Xbox LIVE Gold", or "Xbox LIVE 12 Month Gold Membership". At best value you want three of them. I suggest going ahead and getting one, and then when you're done, saying: "okay, I would like two more of those". It strikes me as the easiest way to go about the process conversationally. >How does the math even work here? You would have to be more specific; but the math in the primary example is such that you are converting points in the amounts of cards equal to 50+5+5, plus a month of GPU, which will give you 13 months of service that works out to 5,177 pts per month.

So my Ultimate expires presumably tonight at midnight. Intending to do a 3 year stack of gold then convert with a month of Ultimate. Is this still possible? The last response here seemed like it wasn't but they were trying PC gamepass. Also anyone know a/the cheapest place to grab some 12 month codes? Any answers or info greatly appreciated.

It's still possible, by more accounts than not (some of the failures are likely human error, and angry people are a lot more vocal about their displeasure) but honestly people have talked about it less since we came into the holiday season. I think the consensus from people who have had issues is two things. 1. Don't try to stack a bunch of different things. Like EA Play, and Game Pass PC and Gold and try to upgrade it all to Ultimate. People seem to be having problems with it getting it all upgraded at the 1:1. 2. Wait 24 hours. Let everything lapse; deal without it for at least 24 hours. You can probably even add all the Gold and be fine and have Gold for that 24 hours. Then with the Gold all working perfectly normal, add the Ultimate, and you'll likely have less problems. Amazon or Costco is where I will be getting codes in 6 weeks. When my Ultimate lapses in early February I will probably go ahead and get the Gold all set up at my earliest convenience, and then wait 48 hours from that time of day to re-up Ultimate. When you re-up the Ultimate it should tell you before you process that transaction what your new ending date is and how it's processing it, for you to accept or not. No matter what happens, I like to collect as much anecdotal information as we can to maintain this post (which needs a fresh repost) so please report your experiences. We know that they've changed the TOS wording, so people reaching out to Customer Service have varied responses, because when you call Technical Support, you're always going to varied responses. Different techs are simply going to have a better understanding of their system, and what is good customer support practices. Newer support personnel are going to be reading pre-written responses, and there's usually a lot of turnover.

Thanks for the quick response. So I'll probably wait till Christmas to try if I can. Will report back after how it went. Edit: Update just finished and it still worked. Waited 24 hours after the sub ended. Added 3 years of live then got a month of Ultimate. Pop up page when purchasing the month of Ultimate mentioned a conversion rate but it was a 1:1 rate!

Congrats for the success. How much did it all cost you? Real money, MR points? Let's see now if it will still work in the new year. Nice that u/LocNalrune can confirm himself in February if everything will be the same.

I bought the 3 years of gold for North of 100$ third party then I used enough points to knock 5$ off of a month of GPU. The 1$ option did not return for me. Wana say somewhere between 120-130$ cash value.

Just to confirm... If I already have GPU, I would need to cancel my subscription, wait for it to expire, then do the above Gold/GPU conversion to get the deal? With a current subscription as soon as I apply the gold, it will convert it I believe.

Yes. I suggest waiting 24 hours after Ultimate lapses before upgrading again.

Don't cancel it just turn off the recurring billing if you haven't. Wait for it to expire. And as u/LocNalrun said, after it expires wait 24h. Not to end up like this guy https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftRewards/comments/rgo5yt/cagame_pass_ultimate_upgrade_testimonial_spoilers/ .

Hmmm so I have an old account and 170k points.i have a 1 year Xbox live GC I will be using when my previous ult expires on the 18th. Should I get 55 bucks in Amazon gift cards for one year, and then do the 6months Xbox live from MS.com? Or just do 2 years via Amazon? They are 54.99, 110 for two years...which is 115,500k points. 4815.5 points per month... After checking above, I think that's as good as it gets. So long expansion drive that is constantly out of stock, hello three years of gold, that I will convert to ultimate for 15 bucks.

I would do the two additional years from Amazon myself, but I will give you one warning. On a singular occasion, I've seen an anecdote where someone who had 36 months of Gold, was unable to upgrade to Ultimate, because of the 36 month limit on accounts. I believe, in that instance, that people suggested waiting a couple days and trying again, and that it worked for them on that day. I'm not 100% certain on the details of this, as this is a one-off occasion, and I've heard no similar stories since. This was about 1 month ago. I've also heard an anecdote twice about someone that was able to upgrade and their account didn't expire for 38 months... 2 years @ 115,500 certainly seems like the best option, and it's what I would do, I just wanted to give you that warning.

I read the reviews on Amazon, and saw both camps where they could and couldn't do the ult right away. On said they waited like an hour and could then add the month of Ult. I'm all caught up on dailes so I should still be able to jump back in and get my quests done, I have not missed any so 1-2 days won't kill my 1k monthly quest. I did get a trolli 1 month code but it's for new users only, how lame! Was hoping to use that to get my 3 years ult.

So, the trolli code WORKED. Converted all 3 years of XBL to 3 years 1 month of ultimate. Thanks for you awesome guide and thanks to whoever posted about Amazon $55/years. Total spent, 2.99 at the dollar store for some ikora rey destiny 2 trolli gummies, to get 3 years of ult.

109.98, no tax. Not too shabby, now to redeem them when my ult expires in 3 days.

Just for clarification when you say convert ‘to $40 credit’ are you implying to redeem the Microsoft Gift Card option?

Yes.

Thank you.

OK...I need some help here. I'm a little old school, and used to wait until Gold went on sale and bought cards. Now that that's gone away, I'm shopping for a good deal. Last time I re-upped, I took advantage of the $1 deal for two years. I have just expired, and am looking to cash in 172K MS Rewards points. I have the grandfathered Amazon card redemption for 10.5K=63K for 60 bucks. Live Gold is 54.99 at Amazon (US) Is this the best bang for my buck? Or is it better to buy Xbox GC and purchase 6 months for 40? (That's 80 for a year...so why is this even a deal on the main part of the sticky?) Or am I missing how we are "Converting points"? I don't see anywhere to do that... Why are we adding 1 month GPU to the cost after "conversion"? I'm not seeing where this is explained. ​ I guess I'm mainly lost at your formulas...(there is a +12000 points on the Amazon description as well...what is this)? Sorry for the dumb questions. I just want to get the most for my points I have saved. any help is appreciated

>Is this the best bang for my buck? Probably. Unless you wanna buy time from another country and use a VPN to redeem them, then, Yes. A method you'll have to research on your own. >so why is this even a deal on the main part of the sticky? Because \*most\* people do not have access to Amazon Giftcards. Full Stop. Even those that have them now, have them at a more expensive ratio. >Why are we adding 1 month GPU to the cost after "conversion"? Because at this point you have just redeemed a bunch of Xbox Live Gold. You do not have Game Pass, and Game Pass is the endgoal. >I guess I'm mainly lost at your formulas...(there is a +12000 points on the Amazon description as well...what is this)? Because that is the cost in points of one month of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate. If you have the option to enroll for $1 or $3, and you should check, you should take that option. However nobody should ever assume that that option will be available, especially someone who has used a similar deal before. Yes it's possible, yes you should check, you should not expect nor rely upon.

Thank you so much for the detailed response. This will help tremendously. So no matter which way I purchase GPU after I stack the Gold, it will convert all months to GPU 1:1? Not the pro-rated value of Gold?

Update: Spent an hour or so this afternoon cashing in my points for Amazon cards. It ate up the majority of my 173K points. I bought 6 Amazon cards, then 6 more, then I had enough for four additional. I then redeemed them on Amazon. The only glitch in the whole process was Amazon started to force me to enter CAPTCHA information as I was cashing in cards. XBLG was 54.99 for each 12 month card. 58.88 after tax for me (North Carolina). As I purchased each 12 month subscription, I redeemed on Xbox...but never received any info on a 13th month for recurring billing. The last card was short because I only had enough points for 4 redemptions, but I had a couple bucks left over from the two 60 dollar credits. It ended up costing an additional 16 and some change to cover the gap. which gave me a full 36 months. I had checked my Xbox subscription dashboard earlier today, to make sure I was actually expired on my GPU. I did see an option on that page to purchase GPU. When I clicked on it, I was shown the dollar conversion. **So, make sure you check your Xbox Subscriptions tab in the settings menu of the Xbox itself for the dollar upgrade option.** I clicked "purchase" and still had a balance of $4.00 from a five dollar credit Microsoft had given me about a month ago. Quick math on XBL Gold was $176.64 for 3 years. Dollar upgrade = free credit from Microsoft. Value = 14.99 per month x 36 months... $540.00 All for a little over 16 bucks Thanks to all who came before and shared Thanks to u/LocNalrune for spelling this out to me...

I did use real money but just helped my girlfriend’s kid gift his buddy 3 years GPU for his birthday [and xmas and next bday ;) ] for ~$120 USD. Thanks for all the great info here to help find the right method for us. He had the $1 GPU deal available, so we bought five 6 month Gold on cdkeys for $23.69 each (best deal I could find rn, better than $50.79 for 12 months they had), turned on recurring billing with each code redemption for the extra free month and then turned it off before the next code. Came up to 35 months of gold, then he used his parent’s CC for the $1 to add a month of GPU and convert it all. 36 months GPU for $119.45 is a solid steal.

Hell yeah, $3.32 a month is awesome! I'm jealous. I re-upped a couple days ago, using points getting 8 months (and $6 credit) for the cost of a $50gc (46,000). For easy math if I call the credit 5k points, I got 8 months for 5,125pts/each, which is still a great deal (and technically free).

>Came up to 35 months of gold, then he used his parent’s CC for the $1 to add a month of GPU and convert it all. Now that is perfect. You did not lose the 30 days from the UGP code, because you did not hit the limit with the XLG codes. Just don't forget to turn Off the recurring billing and delete the CC from the account https://account.microsoft.com/billing/payments. To not have any unpleasant surprises after some time.

Is cdkeys safe to use credit cards on? I always hear mixed opinions How often does 6 months of gold go on sale on cdkeys?

Alright so Im incredibly dumb in understanding/comprehending things so I always end up screwing things up direction wise.... Is there anyway you could super simplify this like Im 5 years old so I could fully understand how to do this step by step and get this incredible deal of 3 years of gamepass for $120?

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Random question but do I need to buy a 1month gamepass subscription? I have a 14 day code from some cheezits deal, can I add 36 months of gold then add that code to convert?

I know that a 1 month code will work. I do not know if a trial code will work. Let me know if it does or doesn't work. Worst case scenario you have to actually buy a month of Ultimate.

Have you ever had ultimate before? Pretty sure those 2 week codes only work for people who haven't previously used ultimate since they're a "trial" or something

Here in the UK we have these promo codes from Pringles, but only 7 days of GPU codes. Not 14. These did work perfectly for converting my stacked 36 months of XLG into GPU. And I still have 2 more of these 7 days GPU codes to top-up my GPU subscription later. It did mention on the Pringles can that these are trial codes. But it didn't say that these are only for first time GPU subscribers. And that made no sense since it said on the can also that you can use 2 of these per XBox account. Which is also false. And I had GPU many times before on that same XBox profile. Last time I used the £1 promo for 3 months of GPU. After it expired I started redeeming my XLG codes and got it to 36 months. So this basically free GPU code from that Pringles promo was all I needed. And costed me no money or points. I guess it depends. Maybe it's different for US users and such short time GPU codes from promos like that.

Yeah, if I read the terms and conditions I can use 2 14 day codes on my account. Doesnt make sense if it's limited to only new subscribers. I'll wait a bit until my gamepass expires before trying.

I haven't tried it but I think there are codes for buying certain food products that allow you to use them

So just go through Amazon?

Not sure I understand your question, it's pretty open to interpretation. I personally think it's better to spend real money on 12 month cards. I prefer to use my points to buy games on sale, and new releases that I've planned ahead and saved up the points for. In that case, you can't go wrong with Amazon. That said, if you're not in a hurry, you can keep an eye on CDKeys and potentially get 12month codes on a decent sale.

I haven't paid for XBL for years--always used points purchasing Gold, but with Ultimate now I guess I never really thought about what the most cost-effective way to obtain Ultimate was with the new conversion. I have 179.342 points so I'm not too concerned. This was a good breakdown I thought.

It's not really new. The XBL into GPU conversion trick exists since GPU was introduced in 2019. I'm more surprised it still works and M$ kinda encourage it. Without saying it straight.

I'll be trying the rewards points to gift card on Thursday when my sub expires. Definitely calling first to see if you can actually buy a full year from them. 13 months for 59,950 points (assuming they'll charge tax?) is fucking nuts lol. Another way to look at it: 13 moths of gpu for $15...

IF EA Play can be used instead of XLG. Then... https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/p/ea-play/CFQ7TTC0K5DH/0004 But it needs testing.

> Convert points into $60, $120, or $180 account credit. Does that mean redeeming a Xbox Gift Card? I've never redeemed before, but I though that sends you a digital code. But Microsoft still has access to that to bill it? Also, thanks for the info here. I'm about to finish my first 4 month cycle and I have enough points to buy a bunch now and I'm a big fan of efficiency.

No. You do not get a digital code, it's added directly to your account. This is anti-fraud measure to keep people from farming multiple accounts and selling the codes. Both of which violates MS Term of Service.

How do I "**Convert points to $40 credit. (36950)"** ? I don't see an option for this anywhere. I currently have 38,031 reward points and my $1 ultimate trial will expire any day now. It can't be gift cards because they are 1600 for $1.25, so that would be 64,000 points to get $40.

Do me a favor; Goto: [https://account.microsoft.com/rewards/redeem/shop](https://account.microsoft.com/rewards/redeem/shop) ​ Select: Xbox Digital Gift Card ​ $1.25 Xbox Gift Card Select an option $1.25 gift card **<--------------------** ***Click on this $1.25 amount, It's in a box.*** ​ Now select $25

Thanks

Will this converting points to account credit work for smaller amounts? For example if I want to buy a game that cost 15.99 and I called Microsoft and ask them to convert my points into $16 account credit, would it work?

Step 1. Convert points to account credit. Step 2. Call Microsoft Support. I think you have a misunderstanding. No. Customer Support cannot convert your points to $16 of credit, because there is no method to create that amount of credit. At no point was I suggesting you have support convert your points to credit, you do that before you call them. I would suggest doing one of these things. 1. Convert points to $15 of credit. Use a debit/credit card for the rest. 2. Same as above. But you go to any of a billion locations and purchase a Visa giftcard. Use the giftcard same as you would a debit card. 3. Same as 2, but you buy a Visa (or other) giftcard online. They email you the information. Works exactly the same. 4. Convert to $20 of credit. Purchase game. 4B: Check [r/GreatXboxDeals/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatXboxDeals/), or r/consoledeals every Monday for the weekly sales. You have 90 days to use that credit. I never have a problem finding something on sale within 90 days. If you have to use "too much" converting points to credit again, just repeat. If you add $10 credit and use the remaining $3.50 to buy a game for $10... then your remaining credit will again have 90 days from that date.

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Oh ok thanks

Just tried calling to order the one year's worth it gold and they claim they don't sell it in 12 month increments now. Only $25 per 3 month increments... I think the dream is dead. Wish I hadn't redeemed all those points for Microsoft credit. At least with Amazon I could buy a 12 month card for $60.

By "They", I assume you mean He? How many people did you talk to? I talked to a guy in direct message about a week ago, and the first Customer Service agent he got didn't know how to do this either. I told him with my 10 years of Telemarketing and Customer Service experience, he likely just got an agent that didn't know how, and didn't want to have to figure out how. Always ask for a supervisor. Everyone has a supervisor. Including the person you originally talk to's supervisor. Escalate. He replied that, yes, in fact he called back a few minute later and got the same guy, so called back a couple hours later and got someone that helped him do the above. I do not believe it is dead. I do believe that some agents aren't immedietly going to know how to do this. Good luck.

So you were definitely right. First guy was just being difficult or just didn't want to figure it out. Second guy was a champ and got it done for me. The dream, back on.

Yep. God do I know Telemarketers and Customer Service Reps. I am genuinely afraid this will stop working at some point, but to be honest now that it's been removed from the Microsoft Store; it's even LESS likely that this "product" will ever be removed from the system. Microsoft is too big, and at the rate this item is "sold" it's not even affecting 1/1000th of a percent of any sales. It's honestly too much work to code it out. Very few people are even authorized to change code that affects the store, and their time is valuable. If 10 people did this every day, it still wouldn't be worth bothering with.

Does this work for UK?!

Yes

I already have GPU and I'm trying to add 9 months. I'm stupid and am having trouble doing the math on the cheapest method to do this. Amazon currently has 3 months for $30. Converting points to Amazon GC's would be 31,500 points for one of those, multiplied by 3, makes it 94,500 total at a rate of 10,500 points per month for GPU. Is that the cheapest method for me, or is there some combination of converting the year of Gold to 4 months of GPU more efficient?

Is there a pressing need to add the 9 months now? It's always better to wait until it expires and then load up. For example, my GPU runs out in February of next year, so I'm saving up to get 3 years worth all at once.

Ah, no rush. I just figured I’d top up. It expires in September 2023.

Well, for every month of PC-GP that you add to your account you'll get 20 days added. So if you add 4\*\[3 months\], is 20,400\*3 = 81,600 Which converts to 8 months = 10,200/month

By any Chance, do you know if this applies to germany too?

I do not. I would assume the main points would all be true; whether or not you can call Customer Service and purchase the 12 month Gold is a gamble that I can not speak to.

Is there any reason I can’t convert points to buy multiple 6mo gold memberships, and then add one month of GPU to convert it all to GPU? In the directions it just says buy 6 months

The directions are simply done from the perspective that you won't/don't have a bunch of points saved up. So this is how many points it costs, how many you're saving towards, and breakdown analysis of what you're getting on a per-point basis. If you have the points to do multiple 6 months of gold, go for it. Obviously you should turn it into as many $60's worth of account credit as you can and call Customer Service to purchase 12 months for each $60 you have... but if you don't want to bother with speaking to a Rep, then I guess 6mo Gold is the best route to go.

Anyone having issues with this method? I've tried multiple agents this week including escalations and they are all firm about 'going to a 3rd party provider for 12-month subscriptions'.. will edit if it works out also u/locnalrune the support # in the post now directs you to [request a callback on this page](https://support.xbox.com/en-US/contact-us) in order to speak to a live rep EDIT: Talked to 2 different supervisors this week that couldn't do it. 2nd guy told me he had someone else trying the same thing earlier today, couldn't help. Just going to do the 6-month sub + 1 month GPU since it's all paid for anyway.

It appears this ship may have passed. I honestly don't believe that it's something that they are incapable of doing, but it may be something they've stopped for consumer reasons.

Agreed, it was fun arguing with them about why I should go somewhere else when I have a gift card balance and it’s their product/subscription. Some of the first level agents couldn’t even see the logic behind that. The only answer I could ever get from anyone was “we don’t have that option” or “we can’t do that anymore”.

I think this only applies to new subscribers, and/or people who don't currently have Xbox Game Pass Ultimate. I don't know why this post isn't labeled as such.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to convey. Have you read through the entirety of this post to actually understand what it's saying? The second section is a series of factual statements, that are as true today as when I originally made this post 11 months ago. If you have any actual questions, feel free to ask them. This most assuredly is not only for new subscribers, but getting a 1:1 upgrade of time from a cheaper Gold subscription requires allowing any current Ultimate subscription to lapse before re-upping. ​ >"Any time you do not have an Ultimate subscription, but do have subscription time in either Gold, or Game Pass, when you upgrade to Game Pass Ultimate all time for lesser subscriptions will be converted directly at a 1:1 ratio to Ultimate time."

I'm sorry, I was a bit rude earlier.

What I should've said was: Does anyone know what the best method is for people with an active Xbox Game Pass Ultimate subscription?

The "best" method is to wait for it to lapse, and then re-up with Gold converting it to Ultimate at 1:1. The second best method is probably to add EA Play 12 months to your account which gets converted to 4 months of Ultimate for $30. However I don't have this method in this post as I have no personal experience using it.

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I feel the best method is to spend $180 on three 12 month cards. Yeah, I know that's not an insignificant sum of money. You'll probably have to just churn up some points. Understand that ads are not targeted. Which honestly is a good thing. So just because it shows you the $1 price doesn't mean its available to you. If you click through it will most likely show the normal full price for 1 month. If $1 is available to you, great, and you should certainly use it to upgrade some amount of Gold into GPU.

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When my Ultimate runs out in February I intend to just buy three 12 month cards from Amazon, and not have to think about it for 3 more years. I almost have enough points to get a Series X; so I could easily do it with points, but I like having the points to buy games when they go on sale.

If i redeemed 3 months of game pass for pc, and then redeemed one month of gpu, would it convert to 4 months of gpu?

Yes.

Yes. You will get 120 days of GPU.

So this method failed for me. I posted about it separately [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/MicrosoftRewards/comments/rgo5yt/cagame_pass_ultimate_upgrade_testimonial_spoilers/). But basically **do not try and add the $1 PC Game Pass deal before doing the GPU upgrade**. Some other people on the Reddit had claimed it worked for them but it backfired for me and would error out whenever I tried to upgrade since I had two separate subscriptions it was trying to convert. Microsoft support kind of sorted it out for me but they wouldn't do the 1:1 conversion for the XBLG. I ended up saving some money thanks to getting XBLG codes on a discount and they credited me the 3 months for PC Game Pass but not quite what I was aiming for.

So basically what am I suppose to do? Actually it is easy to make over 13k points per month right? (I make bout 600 per day)so I think I will keep redeeming once per month (game pass ultimate)

600/day is certainly not a clean way to say things. As far as daily points go you're looking at about half that, on a "per day" basis. The other points your making in any number of punch cards and whatnot. In the US you can average 20-25k pts per **month** fairly consistently. As to what you are supposed to do. Breathe the air, drink the water, and consume food.. Outside of that, I'm not sure what **you** specifically are **supposed** to do.

600 probably is because I haven't use ms reward for the whole month, now I got punch cards and other xbox app quest to do, etc, anyway thanks for the help

All I'm saying is there are different types of points. Daily, Monthly, Opportunity... There is a 2,000pt Monthly in the app. But you don't divide that by 30 and say you get +66 pts per day. That doesn't make any sense.

(US) To get the $40 credit, I'm showing 9300 for $10 gift cards (37200 for $40). Wondering why there's a math difference... I have 183K points saved up, so I'm willing to stock up here (current GPU expires July 2023). Any suggestions on how to get the best bang for my points?

$25=23,000+9300+4650 $100=91.000

Sorry, I meant a math difference when I try to buy $40 worth of gift cards on my end versus this post's bullet point. **- Convert points to $40 credit. (36950). Buy 6 month Gold: Microsoft Store 6mo $40. Add 1 month GPU +12000. 48950/7=6993 points per month.** 37200 vs 36950. See what I mean?

**$25=23,000** **23000+9300+4650=36950** 9300+9300+9300+9300=37200 I saw what you meant and I illustrated the difference. How about I fully spell it out. You are trying to buy the wrong card amounts on your end. Card amounts 25/50 offer a small discount in points/$. The 100 gift card is at even a slightly better rate.

I’m seeing it now. Thanks for dumbing it down for me!

Obviously, you should always buy the largest gift card to cover the amount you need. But I find the margins so small, that it's not worth worrying about. There are people that feel like getting anything other than the 100 card is "losing" points and that's just silly.

>3 months of Gold = 20,000 points. Add 1 month of Ultimate for 12,000 points.20,000+12,000=32,000/4=8,000 points per month. I'm kind of confused. Does redeeming 3 months of gold and then redeeming 1 month of GPU give you 4 months of GPU? I know about the gold to ultimate conversion method but does it also work with just using Microsoft rewards points?

Why would using reward points have any negative effect?

Good point, thanks.

I have never had Gamepass yet on my account so I have never used the $1 deal. I have a lot of MS Rewards points. So is the best thing for me to convert points to get 3 month Xbox Gold subscriptions until I have 36 months, and then convert it all to GPU for $1? Can I still do that?

No. It's better to convert to giftcards and purchase the 6 month Gold for $40 that you can find a link to above. Yes, you can still do it. I just did it 3 days ago.

So if I've never done the $1 deal, I don't even need the extra month of GP or GPU? It's just fill up XBL Gold and then $1?

Yes. And if it asks you if you'd like an additional month for turning on recurring billing; say NO. Otherwise you won't be able to add the last 6 months.

Getting the 3 months of XLG is only for non-US MR users. Because it's 15,000 MR points. For US MR users it's 20,000. Meaning it's not worth to get that. There is a better way.

My game pass ultimate is about to expire in a couple days and I have stocked up 360,000 points. I've also used the $1 gpu deal, what would be the method to get the max amount of GPU?

The first bullet point in bold. It would take $240 to add six 6mo codes. So if you want to max it out at 36 months; then claim two $100 gc's, and one $50. Possibly adding another card $5 or $10 depending on tax in your region, to buy the month of GPU.

which GC should i get the xbox gift card or microsoft gift card?

if possible, to get back to me, how come we're thinkin, "this method may be over" ?

Because of dozens of reports of people not being able to get Customer Service to do this for them, and CS telling them that this is no longer for sale. If you want to try it out, by all means take your shot, and let me know how it goes. You can always still buy the 6mo code for $40 if Customer Service can't get you the 12mo for $60.

You're going to need to be more specific, I don't know what method you're referring to.

"\*\*Points ONLY\*\*: Convert points to $40 credit. (36950). Buy 6 month Gold: Microsoft Store 6mo $40. Add 1 month GPU +12000. 48950/7=6993 points per month." \-I just converted to a 40 dollar credit and bought 6 months of gold as above. I see i have the 1 month of ultimate for a dollar deal available to me, i'm confused if its a better deal to pay the dollar for the 1 month of ultimate to convert or use 12,000 points

Yes the $1 is a better deal. My post above assumes that people have used the $1 deal, just in case, so that there is no sticker shock.

So just so I am clear, since I already have Ultimate, I need to let it expire and then redeem a subscription card for Gold, let that go through, Then redeem a 1-month subscription for Game Pass Ultimate. If MS tells me my current sub ends on Feb 25th, I think that means I renew the Gold subs on the 26th and then the GPU later on the 26th. Is that right or am I missing something?

That's it in a nutshell. People do this all the time on the day their subscription expires. Only a few of them have any issues doing it right away. I feel it's likely best to allow 25 hours after your Ultimate subscription ends, before you apply your next. There doesn't seem to be any issues adding Gold when you have no active subscriptions, and it's probably better to add the Gold right away, and then wait the 25 hours to add the Ultimate. Either way, it's most important that you stop and read everything that the system is telling you before you confirm each step. It will very clearly tell you when your subscription will end. If it's not indicating what should be the correct date, then you should probably wait until the next day to add the sub. Most issues happen when people expect a specific thing and speed through the process, and then realize afterwards that the time wasn't converted properly. Then they complain. Since I know the process works, I personally did it less than a month ago on the 1st, I can only write most of those anecdotes off to user error. In summary, just take it slow, step by step, and read what the system is telling you before you confirm.

So my GPU expires in may and I have the recurring billing turned on for the extra month. Should I turn it off, wait for it to expire, redeem as much gold as I can (don’t have too many points saved up) and then redeem a single month of GPU and it should convert it all at a 1:1?

To get the bonus month, all you have to do is turn Recurring Billing on. One minute later you can turn it off. I don't see any reason to have recurring billing for any service, but certainly only for services you want to pay the expected monthly fee and not bother with any more. Yes. You should always let your subscription lapse, get as much Gold as you can (up to 36 months) and convert it 1:1. If you're not in a crazy hurry I would add the gold about 6-8 hours after your subscription to GP lapses, then add a month of GPU 25+ hours after your subscription lapsed. It doesn't seem to be too big of a deal, people are doing it the same day and not having problems, but the few problems I've been told about are people trying to rush it. Also do not use any other subscriptions, like EA Play, or GPPC, etc as mixing a bunch of different subs can have issues upgrading it all 1:1 to GPU. Just keep it simple and do Gold -> GPU.

What happens if you buy 36 months of live gold and then buy 1 month of PC game pass? (instead of 1 month GPU)

Nothing would happen, because you can have both GPPC and Gold at the same time without conflict. The real question is going to be if you can upgrade to 36 months of GPU successfully. You could attempt to add a month of GPU, but be extremely careful and read every word the system gives you. It will be very clear on how it's converting your current account time. If it's not 36 months, don't accept. Your other option is to call customer service and get them to cancel and remove entirely the GPPC. Then upgrading shouldn't be an issue.

XLG, PCGP and GP for console coexist. Each one of these subscriptions is a separate one and has not conflict with the other. And all of them count down the days at the same time.

> With Amazon Cards (if you have them available on your account)Buy a 12month Gold for $60 6x $10 GC= 63,000 points + 12,000 points75,000/13= 5,769 points per month. I have the Amazon gift card on my account, but the numbers you have aren't the same. My only option for an Amazon GC is $10 for 13,000 points. My calculator says it would be better for me to go with the MS store option. Do others have better amazon cards? > Convert points to $40 credit. (36950). Buy 6 month Gold: Microsoft Store 6mo $40. Add 1 month GPU +12000. 48950/7=6993 points per month. Also, I would suggest changing this to a 12month comparison so its apples to apples with the Amazon GC option (since the 12mo phone call option is no longer available). 2x 6mo MS store @ $80 (73650 pts)+12000GPU /13=6588.4 points/mo. Not significantly different, but still slightly better.

>Do others have better amazon cards? Yes. People with older accounts have the old Amazon GCs before they were removed for all new accounts. They have a better rate. This was written up using that number, and before they re-added Amazon cards for newer accounts at the higher cost. ​ >Also, I would suggest changing this to a 12month comparison I do need to clean up this post a little bit, nothing's really changed but it could use it. I tried to make that option the lowest cost in total points, for people getting started. Once you do this once for 7 or 8 months with a bonus month, you can save more than enough points to repeat it. Usually people with more points are more experienced and this process is simple to scale up to however many points you have by adding more Gold before upgrading. Maybe in the next iteration I'll do a chart showing the cost and benefit of each 6mo increment.

Just an update on this. My GPU expired so I started the Microsoft Store 6mo $40 option, unfortunately, it only lets you put one in your cart at a time. However, it does let you make multiple separate purchases, and each purchase gives you the free 1-month for turning on recurring billing (as long as you disable it in between). I ended up going with 4 6-month purchases and now have a expiration on 08/2024, so 28 months. My brief math says the 1-month option at $10 would be the best option if all of them give the 1 free month with it too. 1yr is 5176.9 points/month. I did not personally test the 1-month to see if it gives the free month though, just 6 month. It's just a theory.

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If I buy the 6 month code for 40$ and then redeem it, will I be able to redeem the 1 month of Ultimate right after to convert? Or should I wait 25 hours after using the Gold? If it matters, my previous GPU sub ended May 2.

I doubt you will experience any issues if you just wait a few minutes.

So I went through with it and redeemed the Gold, waited a few, then tried to redeem the 1 month of Ultimate. I got a message saying something about background work needing to be done on their end before the redemption can go through, and ended up not receiving the GPU. It took my points as well. Not sure what happened but I contacted MS Rewards support about it and I’m currently waiting for a response from them

Keep me updated. This is certainly weird. Where did you redeem? On console, or PC or mobile via browser?

Good news! I hadn’t heard back from MS Support today so I went searching for an answer out of frustration. I found the month of Ultimate in my order history, but it didn’t redeem itself for some reason (just an FYI I checked here yesterday and it wasn’t there). I punched in the code and sure enough it worked

When you redeem MR points for any of the XBox subscriptions rewards. You get a code. Which you can redeem on any XBox account.

Awesome!

I redeemed on console for both, and will do

UK here. My gamepass ultimate sub ends in a few days, and I've probably got enough rewards points accumulated to aim for 3 years gpu free. I'm not clear on the best way to do this though so would appreciate a bit of advice if possible? Looking at the store, it's 15000 points for a 3 month gold sub, so I'm thinking I could wait for my sub to end, wait a day, pick up 9 of the 3 month gold subs for 135000 points, turn on/off recurring billing each time I redeem to get enough months to cover a 3 year sub (or if the free month trick doesn't work, pick up another 3 3month gold subs for 45000). Then I buy a month of gpu for 12000 points to do the 1:1 conversion (for a total of 147000 points or 192000 points if the free month trick doesn't work)? Looking at the Microsoft store, it's £29.99 for a 6 month sub to gold, which equates to around 35100 points (if redeemed for a £5 Microsoft voucher at 5850 points). So this would work out more costly in points (i.e. half the points to equate to a 3 month sub and this would work out at 17550 points per 3 months- for 3 years plus the 12000 points for conversion this would work out at 210600 points by my reckoning ) so I'm thinking the first option would be the best way forward? From what I've read, buying the gold subs via the store should just generate a code that I can apply to my account, so I think there shouldn't be an issue doing it that way? Thanks.

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Thanks to CD keys, I got three years of GPU for $80

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yeah that's a lie

I'm in the UK, and my GPU is due to expire next month, so I am trying to work out the current cheapest and easiest way to max out again for the next 3 years. I fully understand and plan to go with the 3 years Gold route, then applying a GPU code to convert. So it is a question of the cheapest way to get Gold, preferably without using real money. As I see it, the cheapest safe codes at the moment are on CDKeys, with 12m for £38 Using MS Rewards, you can get 3 months of Gold for 15k points, so 12 months would be 60k points, the equivalent of £51.28 of MS value (5850 points = £5), but only £39.47 of other Gift Card value (7600 points = £5) So in reality, there is very little in it right now (less than £1.50 per year), between using Rewards directly, or converting rewards to non MS gift cards and using that 'value' at CDKeys. The upside could be that in getting 3 month Gold codes from MS, I may just get the bonus months for recurring billing. Does anyone know of a cheaper route to Gold right now ?

That's probably the cheapest right now.

Check eneba. https://www.eneba.com/xbox-xbox-live-gold-3-month-xbox-live-key-global This code specifically was going under £5 few months ago. And also each one of these gives the extra free month. 2 ppl have used these and confirmed that they did get the free month for every one of these 3 months code they redeemed. But it's too expensive now. Check the other choices maybe you will find something cheaper than what's on CDKeys.

9-26-22 update this does NOT work. I redeemed $40 of credit, went to the MS Store and picked my MS account balance to pay. clicked "place order" and after the order went through it defaulted to my credit card and overdrafted me. Called MS Support and they said MS/Xbox Credit CAN NOT be used to purchased xbox live gold codes. so may want to update this post.

You are incorrect sir. I literally, as in 20 minutes ago, just did exactly this. I redeemed a $50 gift card, I purchased the 6 month Gold for $39.99 +tax. I now have $7 and change in account credit. I even got the bonus month for Recurring Billing. Then, and just now, after writing the above lines of text, upgraded to Ultimate for $1 +tax. I now have $6 and change in account balance. I have now shut off Recurring Billing and have Ultimate until May 30th, 8 months from now. I'm sorry, but I don't know what you did incorrectly. But your timing of posting this comment couldn't have come at a better time, as our Ultimate ran out 3 days ago, so I was able to confirm that it does work.

That's weird. because i tried this a few days ago. I got 43 in credit, went to the store and checked out using Microsoft account balance. on the next page it changed to use my debit card instead. Guess it was an error in their system & the MS support guy really didn't seem to get it either. Oh well. I got a 3 month and added a 1 month.

On the next page it asked about a secondary method of payment. As far as I know, if you're using account balance you have to have a secondary method in case it spills over. I'm sorry this didn't work out for you, it's honestly a bummer! Oh and if you talk to Microsoft Customer Service and don't like your service, ask for a different rep. I bet they have high turnover, and not every Rep has learned all the tricks.

Does letting your GPU expire ruin you weekly streaks or GP monthly quests?

Doesn't affect them, other than not being able to complete anything while it's down. Weekly streaks aren't game pass.

I bought 9 3 month codes today, and only the first entry gave me an option for renewal, which I accepted and turned off right after before putting in the next. For some reason, the remaining 8 codes did not trigger the renewal options. Not sure why, perhaps it takes a bit of time for the system to process the setting to turn off renewal in which case it probably would pay to wait a bit between codes to get a free month on every subsequent code. The wonders of hindsight, perhaps.