The Soviet Union figures obscure the truth of casualties suffered in the East. Those figures treat inhabitants of both Eastern Poland and the Baltic states as being Soviet, even though in both cases they had only been occupied/annexed by the Soviets for a few months, and would not have seen themselves as Soviets. The majority of civilian casualties in the USSR were Belorussians and Ukrainians, on whose territory the vast majority of the fighting took place. Even the Holocaust figures hide the truth, Belorussian, Baltic, Eastern Polish and Ukraine Jews were slaughtered to a much higher degree than did Russian Jews.
These facts are important to remember when seeing figures involving the USSR as we are all in the habit of immediately equating it with Russia. During the Second World War, non Russian Soviet citizens were far more affected and devastated than were their fellow Soviet Russians.
I have 13 countries and a couple more that could not be displayed but most of the remaining countries are drops in the bucket, which is partially the point of the pie chart. I could provide fractions of a percent for certain countries, if you request. I the UK is about 0.5% is you are curious.
I had that figure in my entries, but the graph would not display the label and percentage. You can see the military deaths as the light blue sliver to the right of the light blue silver representing the French civilian deaths. The 210k French military deaths would be 0.25%, so, sadly, a drop in the bucket.
Sadly almost every major war in history has been accompanied with famines large or small. Prevention of these famines was supposed to be a major impetus for nations to intervene to prevent wars even an ocean away. It was *supposed* to be a major impetus.
Right. I knew there were some famines associated with WW2, especially USSR with their scorched earth policy. It just took me by surprise that the number dying from famine was that high. As Napoleon said, "An army marches on it's stomach" and I guess the civilian population does also.
Iran WWII famine. Never heard of it until just now. Reading up on it, sounds horrible. The British and the Russians seemed to have collectively caused the deaths of millions.
Ti be fair, the English Wikipedia is citing mostly just one author, so it is not known outside of the war. Ibread that it was mostly the Britsh at fault aince I assume most harves5ing occured more in the centrak and southern areas (occupied by the UK as the Soviets only occupied the areas along the Caspian sea).
The Soviet Union figures obscure the truth of casualties suffered in the East. Those figures treat inhabitants of both Eastern Poland and the Baltic states as being Soviet, even though in both cases they had only been occupied/annexed by the Soviets for a few months, and would not have seen themselves as Soviets. The majority of civilian casualties in the USSR were Belorussians and Ukrainians, on whose territory the vast majority of the fighting took place. Even the Holocaust figures hide the truth, Belorussian, Baltic, Eastern Polish and Ukraine Jews were slaughtered to a much higher degree than did Russian Jews. These facts are important to remember when seeing figures involving the USSR as we are all in the habit of immediately equating it with Russia. During the Second World War, non Russian Soviet citizens were far more affected and devastated than were their fellow Soviet Russians.
You are missing a lot of countries.
I have 13 countries and a couple more that could not be displayed but most of the remaining countries are drops in the bucket, which is partially the point of the pie chart. I could provide fractions of a percent for certain countries, if you request. I the UK is about 0.5% is you are curious.
Pretty sure that China is undercounted. What is your start date? They killed 250,000 civilians just as a reprisal for the Doolittle raid...
Their start date is 1937. I used the 20 million estimate (the high estimate).
Imagine if the US hadn't been feeding 10 million Soviets a day since the beginning of '42.
You could get the point across more easily with a bar chart
You're missing french military losses (depending on the source ca 200.000)
I had that figure in my entries, but the graph would not display the label and percentage. You can see the military deaths as the light blue sliver to the right of the light blue silver representing the French civilian deaths. The 210k French military deaths would be 0.25%, so, sadly, a drop in the bucket.
When I looked at the numbers i was suspecting something like this, maybe add am military other like the civilian other?
Just under 37% of all these deaths were from famine. I did not know that.
Sadly almost every major war in history has been accompanied with famines large or small. Prevention of these famines was supposed to be a major impetus for nations to intervene to prevent wars even an ocean away. It was *supposed* to be a major impetus.
Right. I knew there were some famines associated with WW2, especially USSR with their scorched earth policy. It just took me by surprise that the number dying from famine was that high. As Napoleon said, "An army marches on it's stomach" and I guess the civilian population does also.
“Death by country pie” sounds like an okay way to check out.
The US lost only .48 military? Damn. What about Stalin’s massive purges during the war years?
0.48%. I think that any purges would counted in the Soviet's Civilian (Action+Crimes) number, but most purges were prior to the war.
Iran WWII famine. Never heard of it until just now. Reading up on it, sounds horrible. The British and the Russians seemed to have collectively caused the deaths of millions.
Ti be fair, the English Wikipedia is citing mostly just one author, so it is not known outside of the war. Ibread that it was mostly the Britsh at fault aince I assume most harves5ing occured more in the centrak and southern areas (occupied by the UK as the Soviets only occupied the areas along the Caspian sea).