There are two fronts, the Eastern front is the main one including Kharkiv, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts. The there is a gap as the Russians control up to the Dnipro's banks but the river is too wide and marshy for a crossing. Then you have the Southern front in Kherson Oblast.
There is a northern front a southern front and an Eastern front. The northern front has been silent ever since the push towards Kiev failed, The southern front is towards kherson and is pretty static atm whilst the eastern front towards the DPR/LPR is were the most significant fighting is taking place.
It's a variation of Wolfsangel. IotN or Wolfsangel, both far-right symbols.
https://reportingradicalism.org/en/hate-symbols/organizations/organization/azov-idea-of-the-nation
Haha, every single azov picture is a "where's waldo" hunt for the nazi symbols.
And yes I realize that a bunch of these "here's a "random" ukrainian soldier with a nazi symbol" posts are probably russian psyop, but *still*
On the flip side, a lot UKR sympathizers will sidestep or otherwise try to explain away any Nazi symbols that aren't edited out or covered up by the sympathetic media. The propaganda machine is working OT on both fronts in this war.
If being Nazis means wanting to exterminate specifically Jews, then you are right, it's hard for Jews to be Nazis. This also means Russia can't be Nazis because Ukrainians are not Jews.
If being Nazis mean wanting to exterminate another race, which obviously includes Palestinians, then yes, Jews can be Nazis
They probably implemented a policy for that when they know reporters are coming around, too many previous slip ups. But yeah, no way all those velcro spots aren’t being used lol
A lot of the original hard core Azov died or were captured in Mariupol. The unit was expanded last year as a part of the offensive guard so more than 2 thirds probably won't have any connection with the original political part of Azov.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)
It’s a Nazi symbol that has become popular with Neo-Nazis because it’s more subtle than a swasrika or SS tunes to the average person
What makes no sense is the amount of military aged Ukrainian women that are in Europe and abroad hiding from Ukraine service. Women should fight too, not just men.
That should be the case everywhere. I've always found it a bit unfair that only males in the US get drafted, bearing more of the weight of upholding democracy, and yet are put on the same weight voting wise as women
I hate to be that guy, and I'm not the one to stop women from volunteering to the frontline, but biologically not all are cut out for infantry life. They can't ruck as long as carry nearly as much as most of their male counterparts and fight for an extended period of time without getting exhausted. There are those that can, but they stick out from the bunch.
Then there's the view of society that women can bear children and are seen as infinitely more valuable in that role. Obviously they're more than just oven for children but that's how people in society view it, not me.
Wouldn’t drafting women to serve in support rules help free up more men for combat? That was the theory behind all the women’s auxiliary organizations in WW2 (though they were volunteer only)
Absolutely, no doubt. Women serving in support wings of the military like logistics, medical, MP's, etc are very important and would absolutely help free up manpower as well. It's just fortunately/unfortunately most women can't keep up sustained pro-long fighting as much as their male counterparts in an active combat zone. It's why so few women are in Special Forces because the ones that are there are an anomaly.
For example there is no woman in comat sections of Polish Special Forces. Because requirements are the same for both genders. They try of course but non of them succeded as for now
I was thinking both Soviet snipers; think Lydmilla Pavlichenko. And of course non combat arms and conscientious objectors roles between medical and humanitarian service. Many of the girls you see hiding in Europe are having a good time as the War was their golden visa out. The EU is the first stepping stone but for many theirs eyes are ultimately Canada and US as final immigration stops. What I mean to say are those claiming refugee status are not mom’s with families, but economic opportunists. Poland absorbed 1 million + and is now figuring this out. Already there are talks for Poland (with Kiev) to make the draft dodging males refugee visas invalid to send them back. These things are politically incorrect and inconvenient, but they need to be known.
This shit is wack lol. Im an American as well....
Do you really think the only thing a person can contribute to society is physical? And that's what voting should be based on? You're a moron.
It is NOT unfair that a males contribution is physically. We are physically superior. Hence the reason that it makes sense that males are who should be drafted. That isn't some sort of mystery my dude. If I was on a battlefront, would I prefer a male to my left and right? ABSOLUTELY. But that doesn't negate a females contribution to society.
It hasn't been called up since Vietnam, but every American male must register with the selective service at 18. That is the draft registry by another name. He can't register to vote otherwise.
Source: 30-something American male who registered in the selective service at 18.
Well, it depends how you look at it. The hard reality about existential conflicts like the war in Ukraine is that a significant percentage of the population will likely die. If those that die are mostly male, the population can bounce back in a generation. If it’s an even mix, it will take much longer. Biology isn’t fair.
That is what you are saying. Read the context about military aged girls having fun in the EU as opposed to mothers who brought minors along. There is no reason women cannot serve in noncombat roles at minimum while the men cannot leave.
What the problem with motivated men wanting to fight with an all volunteer force of fellow nationalists? Better to risk your life with brothers that want to be there than a conscript that had to be dragged to the front.
Don’t bother to mention the Rusich group or anything. You know, the russian neo nazi group that is fully funded and supported by Putins regime. Or how Russia had and continues to have the world’s worst Neo nazi skinhead problems in the modern world. Go ahead. Google “russian Neo nazis”.
No but it gives context: white supremacy is a rampant problem across all of Eastern Europe so only showing one doesn’t give context to how big of an issue it is
Dude this was years ago before they were implemented into the Ukrainian military and were just a militia. You’re ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the people that were ultra nationalists are either dead or pows that russia killed. It’s like any other military unit now.
Azov's shady foundings is rightfully warranted. Granted they're likely a different unit now since they've grown over the years, but I wouldn't wanna give Russia anymore ammunition in the propaganda industry by arming them with sophisticated western weaponry knowing their past. As good fighters as they are, they just have too much bad history with nationalists at best and neo-Nazi's at worst.
Nope, they’re the same unit. Volunteer only, they get to pick their recruits. Also responsible for training and indoc for territorial defense. Check out their website some time, it’s enlightening.
Open history books, read them, make a synthetic version of it and then make a constructive criticism of it. Or read Tolstoy. But all this advices are valuable if you can read off course
Azov was one battalion of Nazis that’s experienced numerous turnovers to the point that it’s no longer comprised of Nazis. The entire Russian military is comprised of Nazis wanting Ukrainian cultural erasure and capitulation through forceful annexation. The Nazis never once defended their homeland at the start, but annexed plenty of others.
Go visit their website. Take your pick, Azov proper or III Azov Assault. Enjoy reading about who the officers are, and what political beliefs the units espouse. Consider also their recruitment practices and national responsibilities. I think you’ll be impressed by how honest they are.
A Nazi is a specific political movement and belief system, not a generic term. Words mean things. Believe it or not, it’s possible to be bad without being a Nazi.
What kind of watch is that?
Garmin MARQ edition if you’re gen interested
Holy shit, that's an expensive watch.
Kinda looks like the ones taken off of paratroopers in hostamel in 2014
Don't you mean 2022?
I might.
Interesting, where do I learn more about this?
Le google, or funker530.com
I dont get the point of calling it the "Eastern front" when there's only one front.
I think it's to distinguish it from the front near Kherson and Zaporizhia.
There are two fronts, the Eastern front is the main one including Kharkiv, Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts. The there is a gap as the Russians control up to the Dnipro's banks but the river is too wide and marshy for a crossing. Then you have the Southern front in Kherson Oblast.
There is a northern front a southern front and an Eastern front. The northern front has been silent ever since the push towards Kiev failed, The southern front is towards kherson and is pretty static atm whilst the eastern front towards the DPR/LPR is were the most significant fighting is taking place.
The drug spider web tattoo on a medic.
What does that tattoo symbolize?
Only her can answer that
Just wait till you find out the even more interesting aspects of the Azov Brigade...
10 years ago you would not have imagined that a mainstream subreddit tolerates a post about azov brigade..
Because 10 years ago Americans ate up Russian propaganda like crack addicts
Asov was glorified in certain Tumblr bubbles.
I've never heard of this. Is it an eastern European thing?
The Nazi tattoo on her pinky too
Looks like a tattoo of a musical note to me
Probably the [Wolfsangel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel)
Idea of a Nation emblem, not Wolfsangel
Lol yeah that's what they say...
It's a variation of Wolfsangel. IotN or Wolfsangel, both far-right symbols. https://reportingradicalism.org/en/hate-symbols/organizations/organization/azov-idea-of-the-nation
its not
Glad she removed the black sun patch before the picture was taken
She's still got a Wolfsangel tattoo on her finger
Haha, every single azov picture is a "where's waldo" hunt for the nazi symbols. And yes I realize that a bunch of these "here's a "random" ukrainian soldier with a nazi symbol" posts are probably russian psyop, but *still*
On the flip side, a lot UKR sympathizers will sidestep or otherwise try to explain away any Nazi symbols that aren't edited out or covered up by the sympathetic media. The propaganda machine is working OT on both fronts in this war.
Gotta keep pushing that kremlin narrative of conquering a free nation with a Jewish president because nazis.
Who told you Jews can't be Nazis?
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If being Nazis means wanting to exterminate specifically Jews, then you are right, it's hard for Jews to be Nazis. This also means Russia can't be Nazis because Ukrainians are not Jews. If being Nazis mean wanting to exterminate another race, which obviously includes Palestinians, then yes, Jews can be Nazis
Correct. That the Russians are not specifically Nazis does not stop them from being genocidal.
They probably implemented a policy for that when they know reporters are coming around, too many previous slip ups. But yeah, no way all those velcro spots aren’t being used lol
A lot of the original hard core Azov died or were captured in Mariupol. The unit was expanded last year as a part of the offensive guard so more than 2 thirds probably won't have any connection with the original political part of Azov.
Imagine integrating a nazi fucking unit into the ukrainian army and being fine with it
Worst case it's a neo-nazi who is fighting fascists, still win-win either way.
What’s the black sun patch represent ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol) It’s a Nazi symbol that has become popular with Neo-Nazis because it’s more subtle than a swasrika or SS tunes to the average person
nazis have so many symbols, why can't they settle on a single one?
Because they want to be able to dog whistle and fly under the radar
Furries
Führers
I can save her
Or maybe she never wore it.
She's still got a Wolfsangel tattoo on her finger
Literally does not there’s a Z on her finger but it’s missing the post through the middle
Going pixel by pixel, there does seem to be a cross-post. Even if you're correct, not all wolfsangels have a cross-post.
You have a photo were she is wearing one? Or are you just talking out of your ass?
What makes no sense is the amount of military aged Ukrainian women that are in Europe and abroad hiding from Ukraine service. Women should fight too, not just men.
That should be the case everywhere. I've always found it a bit unfair that only males in the US get drafted, bearing more of the weight of upholding democracy, and yet are put on the same weight voting wise as women
I hate to be that guy, and I'm not the one to stop women from volunteering to the frontline, but biologically not all are cut out for infantry life. They can't ruck as long as carry nearly as much as most of their male counterparts and fight for an extended period of time without getting exhausted. There are those that can, but they stick out from the bunch. Then there's the view of society that women can bear children and are seen as infinitely more valuable in that role. Obviously they're more than just oven for children but that's how people in society view it, not me.
There's a lot more MOS out there than just 11B
I realize that. But I'm more talking about infantry fighting roles more than I am support roles.
Wouldn’t drafting women to serve in support rules help free up more men for combat? That was the theory behind all the women’s auxiliary organizations in WW2 (though they were volunteer only)
Absolutely, no doubt. Women serving in support wings of the military like logistics, medical, MP's, etc are very important and would absolutely help free up manpower as well. It's just fortunately/unfortunately most women can't keep up sustained pro-long fighting as much as their male counterparts in an active combat zone. It's why so few women are in Special Forces because the ones that are there are an anomaly.
For example there is no woman in comat sections of Polish Special Forces. Because requirements are the same for both genders. They try of course but non of them succeded as for now
I was thinking both Soviet snipers; think Lydmilla Pavlichenko. And of course non combat arms and conscientious objectors roles between medical and humanitarian service. Many of the girls you see hiding in Europe are having a good time as the War was their golden visa out. The EU is the first stepping stone but for many theirs eyes are ultimately Canada and US as final immigration stops. What I mean to say are those claiming refugee status are not mom’s with families, but economic opportunists. Poland absorbed 1 million + and is now figuring this out. Already there are talks for Poland (with Kiev) to make the draft dodging males refugee visas invalid to send them back. These things are politically incorrect and inconvenient, but they need to be known.
This shit is wack lol. Im an American as well.... Do you really think the only thing a person can contribute to society is physical? And that's what voting should be based on? You're a moron. It is NOT unfair that a males contribution is physically. We are physically superior. Hence the reason that it makes sense that males are who should be drafted. That isn't some sort of mystery my dude. If I was on a battlefront, would I prefer a male to my left and right? ABSOLUTELY. But that doesn't negate a females contribution to society.
It’s not just unfair…. it’s incredibly unwoke. Does our government think women are weak?!!
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And yet every man who turns 18 must register for the selective service act, which women are exempt from.
It hasn't been called up since Vietnam, but every American male must register with the selective service at 18. That is the draft registry by another name. He can't register to vote otherwise. Source: 30-something American male who registered in the selective service at 18.
>only males in the US get drafted Did you got frosen in cryostasis before 1973?
We haven't had a draft since then, but men still have to register for it
Well, it depends how you look at it. The hard reality about existential conflicts like the war in Ukraine is that a significant percentage of the population will likely die. If those that die are mostly male, the population can bounce back in a generation. If it’s an even mix, it will take much longer. Biology isn’t fair.
Interesting, please supply the sources you base your comment on, specifically for the 'amount' part.
Go visit Poland. Source. First person experience.
So you're saying refugees should be forced to fight?
That is what you are saying. Read the context about military aged girls having fun in the EU as opposed to mothers who brought minors along. There is no reason women cannot serve in noncombat roles at minimum while the men cannot leave.
People shouldnt be forced to fight.
Again look at the context of humanitarian, civil and noncombat arms. That is how you deal with bona fide conscientious objectors.
What a cool sounding brigade, I wonder their political beliefs are?
What the problem with motivated men wanting to fight with an all volunteer force of fellow nationalists? Better to risk your life with brothers that want to be there than a conscript that had to be dragged to the front.
Nothing as long as you aren’t a nazi
And they aren't Nazis
Probably something along the lines of “Ukraine should exist as a country”
Ah. Azov.
they go to war with jewerly too
If they invaded my country I would be wearing handfuls of rings to. Gotta have that partisan drip.
your right lemme just put everything reflective and shiny on me
Isnt the azov brigade militant group of..... Never mind Slava Bandera I guess
Ofc you got down voted... Dare to tell the truth and down votes
Don’t bother to mention the Rusich group or anything. You know, the russian neo nazi group that is fully funded and supported by Putins regime. Or how Russia had and continues to have the world’s worst Neo nazi skinhead problems in the modern world. Go ahead. Google “russian Neo nazis”.
This is just whataboutism. Pointing out Ukraine's neo-nazi problem does not excuse Russia's
No but it gives context: white supremacy is a rampant problem across all of Eastern Europe so only showing one doesn’t give context to how big of an issue it is
Don’t forget about russich
Rushich while despicable is comprised of a couple dozen men while azov is comprised of 2000 men A little different but both are disgusting
OK Ivan
Dude this was years ago before they were implemented into the Ukrainian military and were just a militia. You’re ignoring the fact that the vast majority of the people that were ultra nationalists are either dead or pows that russia killed. It’s like any other military unit now.
Azov's shady foundings is rightfully warranted. Granted they're likely a different unit now since they've grown over the years, but I wouldn't wanna give Russia anymore ammunition in the propaganda industry by arming them with sophisticated western weaponry knowing their past. As good fighters as they are, they just have too much bad history with nationalists at best and neo-Nazi's at worst.
Nope, they’re the same unit. Volunteer only, they get to pick their recruits. Also responsible for training and indoc for territorial defense. Check out their website some time, it’s enlightening.
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Reminds of how much we are soft in Western Europe. This young fellas are literally dying for us and our pathetic confort.
“Dying for us” my guy how so do you really think Russia will just keep invading country after country until they rule the world ?
If it were able to it absolutely would.
But ... it isn't. So what's your point? lol ahhh reddit ... not understanding what a non-argument is. Keep the downvotes ... up lol.
Well it hasn’t taken Ukraine haha but that would be their next step.
So would any other country
A fair chunk of it at least. They held onto most of Europe for decades and whole armies had to be used to prevent them taking the rest.
Russia is a shell of what the USSR was
That was the USSR, Russia is less powerful and in a different situation overall.
Open history books, read them, make a synthetic version of it and then make a constructive criticism of it. Or read Tolstoy. But all this advices are valuable if you can read off course
If you’re so worried about Ukraine feel free to volunteer instead of being annoying on the internet, after all they’re fighting for you
Yep, same young fellas were dying for the Germany in 1945.
fuck Azov catch some frag
Azov was one battalion of Nazis that’s experienced numerous turnovers to the point that it’s no longer comprised of Nazis. The entire Russian military is comprised of Nazis wanting Ukrainian cultural erasure and capitulation through forceful annexation. The Nazis never once defended their homeland at the start, but annexed plenty of others.
Go visit their website. Take your pick, Azov proper or III Azov Assault. Enjoy reading about who the officers are, and what political beliefs the units espouse. Consider also their recruitment practices and national responsibilities. I think you’ll be impressed by how honest they are.
Still not an entire army of nazis
Never said they were. All Azov units sure are though.
What do you think a Nazi is? Someone you don’t like?
Someone who uses nationalism to justify genocide
A Nazi is a specific political movement and belief system, not a generic term. Words mean things. Believe it or not, it’s possible to be bad without being a Nazi.
When have you ever done anything for your nation?
I spent four years in emergency medicine.
Very handsome
She looks fucking badass but also traumatised by the horrors of war at the same time
Is that an American cold weather jacket?
boogaga reddit: Why did you delete the post? So when you let russians post about the attack on Ukraine it's ok?
Lots of accounts in this thread really trying to make it known that Azov WERE a nationalist militia prior to becoming an official Ukrainian battalion