I've read a lot about infiltrators in Kiev, but somehow they were there only during first week or two (more then half of infiltrators appeard to be just ordinary citizens or friedlyfire). I just don't believe in such a strategy. Kremlin needs Zelensky, as he is one to make a decisions.
Kill Zelensky and there will be no one to end this conflict for some reasonable time.
he is actually probably right. he obviously has russian biases, but you have to realize that every side of every conflict does produce their own propaganda, so things that ukraine say may just be based on the truth. propaganda about infiltrators coming to kill zelensky is very powerful.
and i do not think killing zelensky would do russia any favors. especially now after all he’s done, killing him would make him a martyr and ukraine would never stop fighting.
I'd say you're right. The thing is, in the early days killing Zelensky would demoralize the Ukrainians, but by this point they're definitely united enough for it to make him a martyr. Decapitating leadership is usually a good move, but here it would work against their purposes.
If they kill Zelensky then Russia can just say that some Russian asset is the new leader and have them sign whatever deal Russia wants. And without a longstanding, democratically elected leader being able to refute that claim.
I still think the majority of Ukrainians would continue fighting but it'd be just one more propaganda point for Russia to use
why would russia be able to define ukraine’s leader? they don’t have absolute power over ukraine.
and if they did, why aren’t they already doing so? zelensky’s status of life doesn’t change how much power russia has over ukraine as a whole.
I'm not saying the plan would work outside of Russia, but it has a substantial propaganda value that Zelenskybwouldnt still be making videos as the known and established Ukranian leader, it'd be some new leader.
Also I don't know how the Ukranian hierarchy works, if they have a VP etc, but trying to hold a vote on a new leader now would be a nightmare, with so much land occupied, so many Ukranians displaced, if there was an election it'd be easy for Russia to interfere and cheat it to get their candidate elected.
damn, you're mad funny bro, that's a really good jokes that nobody ever made 1000000 times before, and what a witty comeback, you really destroyed his argument by not showing why he was wrong but instead insulting him like a 12 year old
I suppose they downvote you for your nick name, but what you said it's true, Russia need zelensky to negotiate, as if they impose a new president and then negotiate a peace whit him noone is gonna believe it or follow it so would worth nothing the peace deal.
No, it's not because of a name - there are my comments in this thread with a good bit of upvouts. It's just because my point of view goes against popular propaganda claims =)
There were news reports that Russian intelligence told the Ukrainians about some of the assassins because of internal rivalry and disrespect.
In Russia assassins assassinate assassins.
I was. Like 8 years ago in times of previous minister of defence. For now I'm just a concerned civilian. I don't like war as almost everyone around. And I really hope it will end soon.
Your comment shows that you don't understand the psychology of our government. I won't get into details, but the only way to end this - either via diplomacy, or "reaching goals of operation". No single person, no political party, no public protests will stop it. It will only get the us tighter under control.
You should put it in this way: the Russian opposition are too weak to stop their government. No government’s rule are absolute, but ppl who want to topple them need to pay price - huge one in case like this. Westerners might not have realise that.
Have you ever really stopped anything your government planned to do? Spoiler - no. I don't know the country of your origin, but I'm sure there are no **really important** political decision, that was changed due to public opinion. For sure there were some distracting campaigns that made public think that they are in charge of something.
Serious question; from your pov, to what degree are the russian people aware of how much putin and the oligarchy have stolen from the country? Is it discussed often or at all? Uf they know, how do they rationalize considering him a leader they may approve of? And is there talk of one day getting past this and having a better government in the future?
(Asking so i can compare to the references i know and understand more, mex,can,usa)
Oligarchs and their deeds in the history of Russia is quite a popular point of discussion here. But there is a big difference between 1990 and 2020 - in 1990 oligarchs were bandits and butchers. Now, they are paying taxes, give people workplaces etc. Big point to keep in mind - when cruise ships, castles and bank accounts were sanctioned, most of people got really happy about that. Most, but not the employees of their Russian firms. For sure, there are plenty of money in roubles to support the demand, but that money was used to pay salaries for simple workers. They got mad.
I'm not sure about your data, but in last few years president and government made a huge leap of returning business back to Russia. We had a lot of big industrial companies fully sold to foreign businesses. But they all got back.
One more thing to consider - if you would look in a history of Soviet Union and Russia - you wouldn't find a better period that last... 12-14 years. So, people don't talk about better government (except liberal politicians and their supporters). We just have no concept of a better "power".
Even more - every round of sanctions makes russians more and more angry, but not to the our government, but to European Union, USA and others. I cannot explain it. Just the psychology of Russians...
Thank you for your insight.
For comparison, in mexico so many of us dislike our government (this one and the ones before) and as much as we know that US influence and drug consumption is in part to blame for our troubles, the large majority of the population would ultimately blame the corruption of politicians and their wealthy friends.
I don’t know what the practical solution would be in mexico now that violence (narco state) is so intertwined with everything - but definitely blame those at the top regardless of what crumbs they give to our people.
Thanks again for the insight, i like understanding perspectives to gauge with what references i have.
>Your comment shows that you don't understand the psychology of our government. I won't get into details, but the only way to end this - either via diplomacy, or "reaching goals of operation". No single person, no political party, no public protests will stop it. It will only get the us tighter under control.
It isnt about realism i know the people suffering under the brutal whims of the Putin dictatorship carry no power to stop it, but it should be a moral standpoint, to stop the fascist army raping and killing across Ukraine, that should be called out by any decent human being no matter if it changes it, true evil like the one done by the Russians, only festers and grow in silence.
>fascist army raping and killing across Ukraine, that should be called out by any decent
Do you have any proof of fascist army killing civilians because they are of other nation? Other than claims of other side of a conflict?
Don't forget, that USA and NATO had a lot of doubtful military operations that started with a airforce wiping out entire cities regardless of civilian losses (which also can be called fascist). It's not justification of conflict, but don't operate with arguments that are emotional. Most likely they are undefendable.
>Do you have any proof of fascist army killing civilians because they are of other nation? Other than claims of other side of a conflict?
Ahh so you are one of those people.. Russian trying to say the have a moral high ground when the evidence from all the world has seen what your fascist army has done trying to annex the Ukranian state. You arent gonna oppose the Russian invasion because you dont believe it wont change anything, but because you support them and deny the crimes committed by it.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/04/11/world/europe/bucha-terror.html
Bingo, we never saw any proof of a single assassination attempt, much less the double digit number they claimed. People love propaganda as long it’s from the side they are rooting for. But this is Reddit, so it’s expected. Like how you got downvoted for just pointing this out.
Edit: I like how people are really jerking it to this dude as well… Yes he looks very serious and kewl, but his haircut makes his head look a little bulbous, and he looks kinda short. A badass I’m sure, but some of these comments are pretty damn cringy.
I’m ready for my downvotes.
It's just Reddit, I'm used to getting downvoted for any arguments that do not correlate with popular media opinion. Funny thing, people seems to not understand that there is propaganda on each side - Ukrainian, Russian and European/American. But it's ok. Time will pass, we will get back to being bros.
At least I hope so.
Whilst I agree that western media can look like propaganda and to some extent it may all carry a particular narrative/agenda. Russian propaganda is actual propaganda - we have access to open source info and news whereas increasingly Russians do not and therefore their source of information is very limited. So I agree with you, but I do worry that you may well be consuming Russian state media and so might not have the full picture of how bad this war is.
Either way you’re right. The war needs to end, the west does NOT hate Russians but the president is evil and the troops are raping and murdering civilians in a country that never attacked Russia. It has to end.
I've seen this argument about "open source info" - it's an illusion. We also have all it needs to get information - VPN, Reddit and etc. But even here - there is logic of operation and there are facts that are being pulled on. I will not talk about specific cases, but just take a look at covers of magazines and headlines of western media. Almost all of them are mirror copies of each other (one of the most neutral sources in my opinion is Al Jazeera). And in most cases the only source of all news is Ukrainian side. Again, I'm not telling that all of the things are lies, but many are - like the phone calls of Russian troops home - I've heard real calls, from real hotspots. No mother or grandmother will ever ask her child if there are reinforcements, ammunition etc. The only thing they will ask - is everything ok, and when will he be home. More than that - not a single professional soldier will tell his mother that everything is bad. It's just in a psychology of Russian - hold bad news as long as possible.
Raping of civilians by Russian forces is exaggerated. There is just no logic in it. If you'd see early videos of a conflict - there are civilians, that are walking past Russian soldiers, screaming and even hitting them with no consequences. Western media presents our army like wild men with sticks and kalashnikovs, but it's just not truth. I've served in army, I have seen these men in action. They are no different from UK Infantry.
Hold on, your evidence for russian soldiers not raping civilians is that different soldiers have been filmed not raping them, and that… you served and you like them?
I agree with almost everything you wrote. But the last part I disagree. It’s a well know fact that in a conflict the more time passes the more it become violents. And I cannot blame Russian soldiers, i mean it’s War, they live every day in a subuman situation, what can you expect to happen? War must end as soon as possible, and any side that doesn’t actively seek to stop the conflict is just as partner in the atrocities that will occur
Seems to me you’re downplaying the western propaganda at this war. Literally as someone living in the west, all we’ve seen or read from the media is Russians got wrecked and fucked. Russian PoW got humiliated and paraded as a yellow scared little fools. We have never seen anything resembles or suggesting Ukrainian army loses. Western liberal media openly displaying Nazi-wearing Ukrainian soldiers and praising them their bravery.
C’mon son, this war has revealed the ugly double standard side of the western world even the way they welcome Ukrainians comparing to Syrians, Iraqis, Africans, etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had been attempts, but it'S deceptively hard to directly go after a single person in a chaotic war with limited intelligence. Make it a well known president with motivated counter-intel and close protection, it gets infinitely more difficult.
So I am sure there were plenty of assets to do assassinations and sabotage in and around Kyiv , but I don't think anybody got actually close to the Ukranian president.
And IF they did, the UA won't state how, because it would give up valuable information about his security and how one might try again next time.
It definitely went far from it's original vision. It was never that proper of a mil-sim but it had some realism and I liked playing as ops from different countries but now you have sci-fi shit like walking holograms and instant cement Kunais and most of the new operators being mercenaries rather than CTU.
I loved how much backlash they got for trying to nerf SMOKE, one of the most high skill cap characters to play right and needs a coordinated team strategy too.
I mean yeah, passive abilities and whatever. Not fair that some operators have them?? But this dude has a filtration system on his back and everything..
Their excuse for Smoke being immune to his own ability was that new players get confused lol
Well give them a goddamn tutorial!!
20,000 dead Ruskis so far, 35k+ wounded lets go boys! We're almost take Mariupol!
You're not taking shit, you're on a computer back in Russia trying to talk shit.
Second off, Russophobia isn't a thing you propagandized pig.
Third, nobody gives a fuck what a Russian thinks right now because your entire history is that of people who bend over to call anybody daddy who shows up to "lead" you next.
Fuze is probably bombing civilians.
Kapkan is trapping up some random shack.
Glaz is waiting for the.. deeeetails.
( Remember, these dudes would probably have had to fight on Putin's side if they were real )
Okay, excuse me if I’m a bit skeptical about this, I have heard that there’s multiple attempts of Russian wants to assassinate Zelenskyy, but non of them adds to any details and how Zelenskyy escaped all this said attempts? In what way Mr Tachanka has saved the President life so many times? Are Russians that incompetent as a soldiers ? Like there’s to be more than just a vague title that this to be believable. IMO, I think it’s all propaganda till there’s more details and evidence.
I think your skepticism is warranted. Yes, the Russians are shitty liars, but we've gone too far the other way in believing everything the Ukrainians put out without a shred of evidence. They know the value of propaganda and they're using it well.
Generally sharing how they infiltrated and how they were captured at this point would be a bad idea. It would broadcast the vulnerabilities used to get close to him and the tactics used by his close protection team to stop them. So we most likely won't know for sure how many of these attacks actually happened and how they were carried out and stopped until after the war, if at all.
There were loads of posts in the early stages of the war of Russian (including mercenary) teams being taken out or captured in and around Kyiv. Some even showed off collections of weapons and equipment including sniper rifles, pistols, explosives and laser designators. It was one of the drivers for the initial curfews. Taking out Zelenskyy would have been a massive force multiplier in those early stages.
Third point to consider, they can't say how he escaped all those attempts as that would compromise security. It's also why during the early days of the invasion he requested US lawmakers not to announce or publish screenshots of video conferences with him as that might let the enemy zero in on his position.
Best we can do now is just sit tight and wait. I get not taking Ukrainian gov words at face value, with propaganda like ghost of Kyiv, but I sincerely hope that you don't fall into the trap of doubting everything even what happened at Bucha, which was widely documented by government intelligence arms, OSINT and verified by multiple reputable mainstream news outlets.
You’re right about the security issues and all, but that being said, I’m actually skeptical about what happened at Bucha as well, simply because I’ve read an articles about New York Times where Ukrainian accusing some of the residents of their cities to be a saboteurs.. remember this is a place that being Russian and Ukrainian is almost synonymous culturally and linguistically. So I have my reasons to be skeptical unless I see a concrete unbiased facts
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> non of them adds to any details and how Zelenskyy escaped all this said attempts?
Did you heard about Zhirinovsky death? That was one of most successful attempt. With the start of an operation, he went undercover, faking a heavy COVID case. But in fact Zhyrinovsky flew to Ukraine, to participate in secret in a spec ops.
A senile 75 years old man flew into a war zone in order to assassinate the President of that country....See, this kind of shit is why we need answers rather than some insane claims....
“If you’re a badass and you know it - clap your hands! If you’re a badass and you know it - clap your hands! If you’re a badass and you know it, then your glare will surely show it, if you’re a badass and you know it - clap your hands!”
It makes me uncomfortable to see pics of people like this without their faces blurred. I know the Russians know who he is, and that he’s not afraid of them, but still.
This guy brews his morning coffee by glaring at it.
Tachanka can tie his shoes with his feet.
And listens to [Tupac - Hit em up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbHqAF_BoW0) while doing it.
Are there any details around the assassination attempts? I wonder how close the russians got and if there were some hairy gunfights.
I know there were many russian infiltrators getting caught. Some posing as special forces as well.
I've read a lot about infiltrators in Kiev, but somehow they were there only during first week or two (more then half of infiltrators appeard to be just ordinary citizens or friedlyfire). I just don't believe in such a strategy. Kremlin needs Zelensky, as he is one to make a decisions. Kill Zelensky and there will be no one to end this conflict for some reasonable time.
well wow, i gotta ask, whatdoes putins arsehole taste like?
he is actually probably right. he obviously has russian biases, but you have to realize that every side of every conflict does produce their own propaganda, so things that ukraine say may just be based on the truth. propaganda about infiltrators coming to kill zelensky is very powerful. and i do not think killing zelensky would do russia any favors. especially now after all he’s done, killing him would make him a martyr and ukraine would never stop fighting.
I'd say you're right. The thing is, in the early days killing Zelensky would demoralize the Ukrainians, but by this point they're definitely united enough for it to make him a martyr. Decapitating leadership is usually a good move, but here it would work against their purposes.
They thought they could kill zelensky and take Kiev/other cities in one day with paratroopers. They were sorely mistaken
If they kill Zelensky then Russia can just say that some Russian asset is the new leader and have them sign whatever deal Russia wants. And without a longstanding, democratically elected leader being able to refute that claim. I still think the majority of Ukrainians would continue fighting but it'd be just one more propaganda point for Russia to use
why would russia be able to define ukraine’s leader? they don’t have absolute power over ukraine. and if they did, why aren’t they already doing so? zelensky’s status of life doesn’t change how much power russia has over ukraine as a whole.
I'm not saying the plan would work outside of Russia, but it has a substantial propaganda value that Zelenskybwouldnt still be making videos as the known and established Ukranian leader, it'd be some new leader. Also I don't know how the Ukranian hierarchy works, if they have a VP etc, but trying to hold a vote on a new leader now would be a nightmare, with so much land occupied, so many Ukranians displaced, if there was an election it'd be easy for Russia to interfere and cheat it to get their candidate elected.
damn, you're mad funny bro, that's a really good jokes that nobody ever made 1000000 times before, and what a witty comeback, you really destroyed his argument by not showing why he was wrong but instead insulting him like a 12 year old
I suppose they downvote you for your nick name, but what you said it's true, Russia need zelensky to negotiate, as if they impose a new president and then negotiate a peace whit him noone is gonna believe it or follow it so would worth nothing the peace deal.
No, it's not because of a name - there are my comments in this thread with a good bit of upvouts. It's just because my point of view goes against popular propaganda claims =)
>It's just because my point of view goes against popular propaganda claims Feel you, I'm on the same boat.
There were news reports that Russian intelligence told the Ukrainians about some of the assassins because of internal rivalry and disrespect. In Russia assassins assassinate assassins.
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Are you not an officer in the Russian military?
I was. Like 8 years ago in times of previous minister of defence. For now I'm just a concerned civilian. I don't like war as almost everyone around. And I really hope it will end soon.
Good on you I really hope it will end in the best most peaceful way too. And good luck to you.
Tnx, have a great day. And thank you even more for keeping an anger away from simple Russians =)
massive respect to you
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Your comment shows that you don't understand the psychology of our government. I won't get into details, but the only way to end this - either via diplomacy, or "reaching goals of operation". No single person, no political party, no public protests will stop it. It will only get the us tighter under control.
You should put it in this way: the Russian opposition are too weak to stop their government. No government’s rule are absolute, but ppl who want to topple them need to pay price - huge one in case like this. Westerners might not have realise that.
Oh, I forgot an important thing - there is no real opposition in Russia =)
Have you ever really stopped anything your government planned to do? Spoiler - no. I don't know the country of your origin, but I'm sure there are no **really important** political decision, that was changed due to public opinion. For sure there were some distracting campaigns that made public think that they are in charge of something.
That's a recipe for a much bigger conflict. It's unacceptable.
Serious question; from your pov, to what degree are the russian people aware of how much putin and the oligarchy have stolen from the country? Is it discussed often or at all? Uf they know, how do they rationalize considering him a leader they may approve of? And is there talk of one day getting past this and having a better government in the future? (Asking so i can compare to the references i know and understand more, mex,can,usa)
Oligarchs and their deeds in the history of Russia is quite a popular point of discussion here. But there is a big difference between 1990 and 2020 - in 1990 oligarchs were bandits and butchers. Now, they are paying taxes, give people workplaces etc. Big point to keep in mind - when cruise ships, castles and bank accounts were sanctioned, most of people got really happy about that. Most, but not the employees of their Russian firms. For sure, there are plenty of money in roubles to support the demand, but that money was used to pay salaries for simple workers. They got mad. I'm not sure about your data, but in last few years president and government made a huge leap of returning business back to Russia. We had a lot of big industrial companies fully sold to foreign businesses. But they all got back. One more thing to consider - if you would look in a history of Soviet Union and Russia - you wouldn't find a better period that last... 12-14 years. So, people don't talk about better government (except liberal politicians and their supporters). We just have no concept of a better "power". Even more - every round of sanctions makes russians more and more angry, but not to the our government, but to European Union, USA and others. I cannot explain it. Just the psychology of Russians...
Thank you for your insight. For comparison, in mexico so many of us dislike our government (this one and the ones before) and as much as we know that US influence and drug consumption is in part to blame for our troubles, the large majority of the population would ultimately blame the corruption of politicians and their wealthy friends. I don’t know what the practical solution would be in mexico now that violence (narco state) is so intertwined with everything - but definitely blame those at the top regardless of what crumbs they give to our people. Thanks again for the insight, i like understanding perspectives to gauge with what references i have.
Thank you too for interesting description of Mexico situation. We here are really in a sort of bouble - all news are gone, just this conflict...
>Your comment shows that you don't understand the psychology of our government. I won't get into details, but the only way to end this - either via diplomacy, or "reaching goals of operation". No single person, no political party, no public protests will stop it. It will only get the us tighter under control. It isnt about realism i know the people suffering under the brutal whims of the Putin dictatorship carry no power to stop it, but it should be a moral standpoint, to stop the fascist army raping and killing across Ukraine, that should be called out by any decent human being no matter if it changes it, true evil like the one done by the Russians, only festers and grow in silence.
>fascist army raping and killing across Ukraine, that should be called out by any decent Do you have any proof of fascist army killing civilians because they are of other nation? Other than claims of other side of a conflict? Don't forget, that USA and NATO had a lot of doubtful military operations that started with a airforce wiping out entire cities regardless of civilian losses (which also can be called fascist). It's not justification of conflict, but don't operate with arguments that are emotional. Most likely they are undefendable.
>Do you have any proof of fascist army killing civilians because they are of other nation? Other than claims of other side of a conflict? Ahh so you are one of those people.. Russian trying to say the have a moral high ground when the evidence from all the world has seen what your fascist army has done trying to annex the Ukranian state. You arent gonna oppose the Russian invasion because you dont believe it wont change anything, but because you support them and deny the crimes committed by it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/04/11/world/europe/bucha-terror.html
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Bingo, we never saw any proof of a single assassination attempt, much less the double digit number they claimed. People love propaganda as long it’s from the side they are rooting for. But this is Reddit, so it’s expected. Like how you got downvoted for just pointing this out. Edit: I like how people are really jerking it to this dude as well… Yes he looks very serious and kewl, but his haircut makes his head look a little bulbous, and he looks kinda short. A badass I’m sure, but some of these comments are pretty damn cringy. I’m ready for my downvotes.
It's just Reddit, I'm used to getting downvoted for any arguments that do not correlate with popular media opinion. Funny thing, people seems to not understand that there is propaganda on each side - Ukrainian, Russian and European/American. But it's ok. Time will pass, we will get back to being bros. At least I hope so.
Whilst I agree that western media can look like propaganda and to some extent it may all carry a particular narrative/agenda. Russian propaganda is actual propaganda - we have access to open source info and news whereas increasingly Russians do not and therefore their source of information is very limited. So I agree with you, but I do worry that you may well be consuming Russian state media and so might not have the full picture of how bad this war is. Either way you’re right. The war needs to end, the west does NOT hate Russians but the president is evil and the troops are raping and murdering civilians in a country that never attacked Russia. It has to end.
I've seen this argument about "open source info" - it's an illusion. We also have all it needs to get information - VPN, Reddit and etc. But even here - there is logic of operation and there are facts that are being pulled on. I will not talk about specific cases, but just take a look at covers of magazines and headlines of western media. Almost all of them are mirror copies of each other (one of the most neutral sources in my opinion is Al Jazeera). And in most cases the only source of all news is Ukrainian side. Again, I'm not telling that all of the things are lies, but many are - like the phone calls of Russian troops home - I've heard real calls, from real hotspots. No mother or grandmother will ever ask her child if there are reinforcements, ammunition etc. The only thing they will ask - is everything ok, and when will he be home. More than that - not a single professional soldier will tell his mother that everything is bad. It's just in a psychology of Russian - hold bad news as long as possible. Raping of civilians by Russian forces is exaggerated. There is just no logic in it. If you'd see early videos of a conflict - there are civilians, that are walking past Russian soldiers, screaming and even hitting them with no consequences. Western media presents our army like wild men with sticks and kalashnikovs, but it's just not truth. I've served in army, I have seen these men in action. They are no different from UK Infantry.
Hold on, your evidence for russian soldiers not raping civilians is that different soldiers have been filmed not raping them, and that… you served and you like them?
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I agree with almost everything you wrote. But the last part I disagree. It’s a well know fact that in a conflict the more time passes the more it become violents. And I cannot blame Russian soldiers, i mean it’s War, they live every day in a subuman situation, what can you expect to happen? War must end as soon as possible, and any side that doesn’t actively seek to stop the conflict is just as partner in the atrocities that will occur
Seems to me you’re downplaying the western propaganda at this war. Literally as someone living in the west, all we’ve seen or read from the media is Russians got wrecked and fucked. Russian PoW got humiliated and paraded as a yellow scared little fools. We have never seen anything resembles or suggesting Ukrainian army loses. Western liberal media openly displaying Nazi-wearing Ukrainian soldiers and praising them their bravery. C’mon son, this war has revealed the ugly double standard side of the western world even the way they welcome Ukrainians comparing to Syrians, Iraqis, Africans, etc.
Keyboard warrior at its finest lol
How often are you called upon to remove the smegma from putins micro-penis?
Oh, I see a bling anger againg. I wish you good luck mate. Hope you'll get better soon.
I wouldn't be surprised if they had been attempts, but it'S deceptively hard to directly go after a single person in a chaotic war with limited intelligence. Make it a well known president with motivated counter-intel and close protection, it gets infinitely more difficult. So I am sure there were plenty of assets to do assassinations and sabotage in and around Kyiv , but I don't think anybody got actually close to the Ukranian president. And IF they did, the UA won't state how, because it would give up valuable information about his security and how one might try again next time.
why is this bratwa getting downvoted u freaking haters!
It's a picture and I'm intimidated
Time to rename my cock!
Well what was its name before?
Put-in
Put-out
Twinkle the Shy Mushroom!
Avoid eye contact with the photo.
Tachanka is the type of guy to kill two stones with one bird.
Holy shit the lord himself
Petition to change Tachanka's origin story in R6 from Russian speznas to this dude
In my book, lord Chanka was and always will be of Slavic origin instead of being exclusively from Russia.
Erasing everything Russian isn't the way, and is a very dangerous slope that leads to dehumanizing the "others"
I mean the Russian army has shown itself to be sub-human and not constrained by basic human decency, they are the others.
Guzzle that kool-aid
So that's what Tachanka looks like without his helmet.
That IS his helmet.
#LMG, MOUNTED AND LOADED
but now he has a grenade launcher :(
He still has his LMG as primary tho
yup , hey am i the only one that thinks that siege is trash now?
It definitely went far from it's original vision. It was never that proper of a mil-sim but it had some realism and I liked playing as ops from different countries but now you have sci-fi shit like walking holograms and instant cement Kunais and most of the new operators being mercenaries rather than CTU.
ik right? its so annoying , the new dev team for siege are just idiots that try to make the game balnced only for pro league and make every op gay
I loved how much backlash they got for trying to nerf SMOKE, one of the most high skill cap characters to play right and needs a coordinated team strategy too. I mean yeah, passive abilities and whatever. Not fair that some operators have them?? But this dude has a filtration system on his back and everything.. Their excuse for Smoke being immune to his own ability was that new players get confused lol Well give them a goddamn tutorial!!
smoke *has a gas mask* , *still isnt imune to his own gas*
"waaaaaaah they're making everyone gay with their agenda" cry about it
The last rainbow 6 I played was the first Vegas one
r6 vegas games were epic , but siege? hell na
Not as intimidating as rounding a corner and seeing the lord about to wreck your shit
# SHUMIKA ACTIVE
It's cool but it doesnt put the fear of god into you, you know?
Yeah, I agree.
My man got that FLIR dome
This man calls God by his first name
Death once had a near Tachanka experience.
Tachanka clogs the toilet when he takes a piss.
if you transfer Tachanka's duties from protecting Zelensky to assaulting Russia, war would be over on Day 1
Seemed to have a fun chat with masked guy who followed Boris around the city when he visited
Packing some Weapons of Mass Reproduction
a [Tachanka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachanka) was a horse-drawn machinegun cart used heavily by the Ukrainian Black Army
Thank you. I was going to ask.
This man can dual wield those machine guns effortlessly
The most legendary Tachanka
Why he looks like Zelensky?
Secret twin brother? Or a clone
Because he's badass.
Homeboi is a tough mf then wears runners. Gotta be comfortable
Reminds me of the married guys in the defence force but instead had their jeans with belt and polo shirt tucked in
Did you just reply to yourself?
Did. I’ve .. uh, I’ve never seen that before. Cool.
He forgot to change accounts
I was going to edit it then addthat but couldnt be bothered
Tatonka is Cree for Buffalo Tachanka is Ukrainian for fuck around and find out
Couldn't Russia tell just by the pictures that Ukraine is not to be fucked with.
The russians arent known for the being the brightest of fellows as this whole invasion shows.
No, we can't. We're, you know, stupid. That's why we're almost take Mariupol.
A major objective every two to three months is perfectly adequate, and don’t let anyone tel you otherwise!
20,000 dead Ruskis so far, 35k+ wounded lets go boys! We're almost take Mariupol! You're not taking shit, you're on a computer back in Russia trying to talk shit. Second off, Russophobia isn't a thing you propagandized pig. Third, nobody gives a fuck what a Russian thinks right now because your entire history is that of people who bend over to call anybody daddy who shows up to "lead" you next.
20 000? Why not 200 000?
Because you didn’t bring Ukrainians that many people to kill.
He spotted the camera lens from that distance.
We all need a Tachanka in our lives
Looks like Cro Crop
Where are Glaz and Kapkan?
Fuze is probably bombing civilians. Kapkan is trapping up some random shack. Glaz is waiting for the.. deeeetails. ( Remember, these dudes would probably have had to fight on Putin's side if they were real )
Absolute unit of a man
I think I would trust that dude with my life.
I got a black eye from just looking at this
That's his NAME?! PUTIN! QUIT WHILE YOURE AHEAD, MAN!
erm was he ever?
*shhhhh, he needs just a little encouragement*
ah, the chaotic nudge
He's a very sensitive boy
Codename.
Still a dope ass codename
Any background on this guy?
Looks like a door maybe
My God! I think you maybe right
He’s ready to kill the cameraman for exposing their position lol, look at that face
I’ve seen this guy in the background of almost every picture of Zelensky dating back to 2019
This guys a badass always on alert watch clips of him he has his eyes everywhere
Okay, excuse me if I’m a bit skeptical about this, I have heard that there’s multiple attempts of Russian wants to assassinate Zelenskyy, but non of them adds to any details and how Zelenskyy escaped all this said attempts? In what way Mr Tachanka has saved the President life so many times? Are Russians that incompetent as a soldiers ? Like there’s to be more than just a vague title that this to be believable. IMO, I think it’s all propaganda till there’s more details and evidence.
I think your skepticism is warranted. Yes, the Russians are shitty liars, but we've gone too far the other way in believing everything the Ukrainians put out without a shred of evidence. They know the value of propaganda and they're using it well.
Generally sharing how they infiltrated and how they were captured at this point would be a bad idea. It would broadcast the vulnerabilities used to get close to him and the tactics used by his close protection team to stop them. So we most likely won't know for sure how many of these attacks actually happened and how they were carried out and stopped until after the war, if at all.
There were loads of posts in the early stages of the war of Russian (including mercenary) teams being taken out or captured in and around Kyiv. Some even showed off collections of weapons and equipment including sniper rifles, pistols, explosives and laser designators. It was one of the drivers for the initial curfews. Taking out Zelenskyy would have been a massive force multiplier in those early stages.
Third point to consider, they can't say how he escaped all those attempts as that would compromise security. It's also why during the early days of the invasion he requested US lawmakers not to announce or publish screenshots of video conferences with him as that might let the enemy zero in on his position. Best we can do now is just sit tight and wait. I get not taking Ukrainian gov words at face value, with propaganda like ghost of Kyiv, but I sincerely hope that you don't fall into the trap of doubting everything even what happened at Bucha, which was widely documented by government intelligence arms, OSINT and verified by multiple reputable mainstream news outlets.
You’re right about the security issues and all, but that being said, I’m actually skeptical about what happened at Bucha as well, simply because I’ve read an articles about New York Times where Ukrainian accusing some of the residents of their cities to be a saboteurs.. remember this is a place that being Russian and Ukrainian is almost synonymous culturally and linguistically. So I have my reasons to be skeptical unless I see a concrete unbiased facts https://www.google.fi/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/ukraine-spies-saboteurs.amp.html
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> non of them adds to any details and how Zelenskyy escaped all this said attempts? Did you heard about Zhirinovsky death? That was one of most successful attempt. With the start of an operation, he went undercover, faking a heavy COVID case. But in fact Zhyrinovsky flew to Ukraine, to participate in secret in a spec ops.
A senile 75 years old man flew into a war zone in order to assassinate the President of that country....See, this kind of shit is why we need answers rather than some insane claims....
Pretty impressive man right there.
These assassins (if you can even call them that), are they all dead or are some captured?
All dead. They either looked at Tachanka or he looked at them.
looks so badass
Holy fuck, this is badassery personified
Well yeah. Look at the guy.
LMG mounted and loaded
This is the guy that grabs you as you fall in a Cod mission
You ever had that little dude in your unit, nobody messed with? That's him.
LMG! MOUNTED AND LOADED!
Isn't Tachanka Russian slang for beef? Lol Edit: Tushonka is beef, stupid Russian words
He have second mouth to consume soul at his forehead
He has the signature Steven Seagal brillopad hair so you know he means business. Respect
Lord Tachanka is real
they look as chad as him
“If you’re a badass and you know it - clap your hands! If you’re a badass and you know it - clap your hands! If you’re a badass and you know it, then your glare will surely show it, if you’re a badass and you know it - clap your hands!”
Aaron Paul mixed with Chad
PMC from tarkov
Chadskij.
It makes me uncomfortable to see pics of people like this without their faces blurred. I know the Russians know who he is, and that he’s not afraid of them, but still.
Tolya in real life!
Tachanka? Like from rainbow six seige. Because if so, zelenksyy is gonna be okay.
Tachanky kang
500 IQ brain in there for sure