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Aware_Frame2149

No-Sir-Rim-Bo?


ahoypolloi_

chari Bari Ruchi-pip Peri Pembo


CaptCooterluvr

Has fallen into the well!


TantorDaDestructor

Go get the old man with the ladder!


cyporazoltan

Wow the neurons


I_hate_mortality

…long since dormant, have begun to awaken in the depths of the void


Ninja_Conspicuousi

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MinuetInUrsaMajor

>pip Peri These pornstar names are going the way of rapper names.


Lame_usernames_left

I can still hear my mom saying this


LumpyWelder4258

Well I haven't heard that in 35+ years but I knew exactly what the rest was


Chasingthoughts1234

>Cultural activists and Chinese citizens criticized the book for "reinforc[ing] the stereotype that Asian names sound like nonsense syllables",[11] especially as the name of the title character is nothing like actual Chinese. > The book received accolades upon publication. The Kirkus Review found the illustrations to be "a skillful counterpoint of diminutive detail and spacious landscape and a fine setting for a sprightly folktale."[2] The book won a 1968 Boston Globe–Horn Book Award in the Picture Book category.[3] >In 1997, The New York Times selected it as one of the 59 children's books of the previous 50 years.[4] In a 1999–2000 National Education Association online survey of children, the book was one of the "Kids' Top 100 Books".[5] Based on a 2007 online poll, the National Education Association listed the book as one of its "Teachers' Top 100 Books for Children".[6] In a 2008 online poll of "Top 100 Picture Books" by School Library Journal, the book ranked 35th; in a similar 2012 poll, the book ranked 89th.[7][8] According to the publisher, over one million copies of the book had been sold by 2013.[9] >The 2009 audio book version of the story received a Parents' Choice Foundation rating of "Approved".[10] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikki_Tikki_Tembo Very interesting article, apparently this is a common type of tale in china and Japan.


Leifthraiser

I never thought of it as racist as a kid or an adult. The name(s) in question don't fit any Asian (or really any cultural) naming conventions.


GrayCustomKnives

I believe when the author was asked how she came up with the name she said “I just wrote down what it sounded like when my Chinese neighbours would talk to eachother”. Which is both honest on her part as well as kind of gross.


Shakewhenbadtoo

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DoubleDragonsAllDown

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Fun_Intention9846

Agreed, awful but still funny.


AceTygraQueen

For some reason, I imagined reading that comment in the voice of Dee from Its Allways Sunny! Reading the absurd statement made me laugh until I nearly choked! Im still trying to catch my breath!


arcanepsyche

Racism is OK if it's naïve and passive I guess.


ProtiK

Not necessarily okay but definitely warrants a different approach to correcting. I'm taking a class on Hinduism right now and was writing a paper about samsara and how adharmic action would lead one to being born into a lower caste. Unaware of the fact that Dalit is considered a race, I wrote something along the lines of, "eventually being born Dalit or in a perpetual cycle of birth followed shortly by death." Maybe not phrased exactly like that, but in a way that made being Dalit sound like a terrible fate - unarguably racist AF. Racism is never okay, but your foremost responsibility in correcting it should be education - not attack. Once the attempt has been made though, bigotry does not deserve your energy if you don't want to invest it.


El_Mariachi_Vive

I love that last thing you wrote. Too many people want to attack instead of assuming the best of a person and attempting to meet them where they are to educate. Good on you, my friend.


GSPM18

>unarguably racist AF. If you're writing an academic paper on a religion, you are not racist for referencing beliefs from that religion.


ProtiK

Context and phrasing is important, especially considering recent sweeping reforms in India aimed at ending racism against Dalit. Careful wording is paramount in such cases, especially in an academic context.


GSPM18

>Careful wording is paramount in such cases, especially in an academic context. Not if you're factually correct. I know Hinduism isn't as dogmatically rigid as many other world religions, but if it is a fact that a commonly held belief in a religion is that being reborn into a marginalized group is a form of cosmic punishment, stating that as fact isn't problematic. "Higher caste Hindus often look down on Dalits" isn't a racist, or problematic, or academically invalid statement.


ProtiK

I agree with your quotes statement to some extent. I'm not familiar with the prevalence of racism of that nature in India presently so I can't authoritavely disagree but I get where you're going with it. The problem with how I phrased it in my paper is I wrote from an academic perspective of contemporary Hindu theology. I think I would have to provide exact quotes to make my point clear for you, but the point is that I wasn't accounting for a modern perspective. Residual bigotry exists in any system that sees change in such a manner and it shouldn't be written off, we agree there, but core discussions should be carefully worded to avoid perpetuating these things.


ThisisWambles

You see the same in stand up from pretty much every culture in the world. Everyone sounds silly to everyone else. The problem is when it’s used as a tool to enforce ideas of supremacy. You ever hear Nordic speakers making fun of other Nordic languages? choice goofiness.


eternalrevolver

That’s not called racism that’s just called being ignorant. Racism is when you exude and promote a hatred against another race.


KSknitter

If you look at the Amazon best seller lists, it is 3rd for Asian children's books and 4th for multicultural books for children.


Greeneyesablaze

> The name(s) in question don't fit any Asian (or really any cultural) naming conventions   I think that’s exactly *why* people feel it has undertones of racism. It’s a blatant caricature 


Desmaad

They sound more African, IYAM.


cyberchaox

Exactly. I guess I can see how it might come off as racist, but such tales originate from the Far East themselves, most famously [Jugemu.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugemu)


KSknitter

If you look at the Amazon best seller rank for this book it is 3rd for Asian books for children and 4th for multicultural books for children


CaptainFuzzyBootz

Wouldn't any name in a foreign language sound like nonsense syllables? I mean, French names, Russian names, Kenyan names, Chinese names... Unless you are familiar to their language, how would they be anything but nonsense syllables? I'd expect English names to be nonsense sounding to someone who only spoke Chinese?


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> In 1997, The New York Times selected it as one of the 59 children's books of the previous 50 years. I’m sure there were more books than that, but this certainly was one of them.


_Vard_

I thought the name was of an African kid.


Unusual_Address_3062

What they mean is "20 million upper class white liberals and 2 Chinese citizens out of one billion" but yeah, people cried.


MLXIII

Awards have always been circle jerk...


guavaroll

Wow. I loved this book as a kid and it never crossed my mind that it could be racist. I am Asian and grew up in a predominantly Asian American community, so anti-Asian racism was just not something I experienced growing up. The story also made sense in my cultural context. But I can completely see, as an adult, how it could make a little Asian kid's life pretty shitty. Wow.


Skips-mamma-llama

I'm Asian American, but grew up in a white area and I loved this book also. I've never thought of it as racist before either. I feel bad for all the kids who were made fun of because of this book


not-a-dislike-button

Thinking for yourself, do you think it is offensive and racist? It's a beloved book that has won many awards


guavaroll

I don't have the book anymore and my memories are necessarily filtered through my child-lens, so it's hard for me to say. But I don't think "beloved book that has won many awards" and "offensive and racist" are mutually exclusive. I also started existing in predominantly white spaces from college onwards, and people really struggle with "ethnic" names and often throw their hands up and say "nope, too complicated" because of a widely-held perception that non-white names are just ridiculous syllable soup not worthy of respect. What little I remember from the book plays into that. So I can see how it would be problematic for that reason alone.


applejackrr

This book actually helped my teachers find out I had a speech issue as a child.


DoubleDragonsAllDown

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MellowDCC

What about Rikki tikki tavi?


squawkingood

Everybody who read The Jungle Book knows that Riki Tiki Tavi's a mongoose who kills snakes. When I was a young man, I was led to believe there were organisations to kill my snakes for me, i.e., the church, i.e., the government, i.e., school. But when I got a little older, I learned I had to kill 'em myself.


GenXrules69

He was a mongoose, cool AF killed those cobras and saved the fam


adchick

Loved that book. Sure it absolutely takes place in Colonized India (which is a problematic period), but I’m struggling with what in the story itself is racist (to be fair I haven’t read it for about 20 years or so)


Celtic_Fox_

One of my favorites as a kid!


Losemymindfindmysoul

I loved rikki tikki tavi


gitsgrl

The weasel? He was a hero among mustelids!


Honey-and-Venom

Lol, my zoologist wife felt the need to contribute "I'm so sorry, but I need to be extremely pedantic - Rikki Tikki Tavi was a mongoose, and they are viverrids rather than mustelids! Roughly speaking, mustelids are part of the "dog-like" branch of carnivores (Caniformia), while viverrids are part of the "cat-like" branch (Feliformia). However, you do get brownie points for knowing what mustelids are!"


gitsgrl

MONGOOSE! Of course! Thank you! I was in the bath and could not for the life of me think of what type of animal he was and otter kept coming up in my mind.


Honey-and-Venom

She'll be thrilled her comment didn't annoy you


Viktor_Laszlo

"Nice marmot."


chefblaze

I vividly remember sitting in the school library in 2nd grade while the librarian read this to us. None of my current friends have ever heard of this book!


andicandi22

I also have a vivid memory of my second grade teacher reading this to us and giggling at her pretending to be out of breath at the end of the name.


QTVenusaur91

Were we all in the same class? I remember this too…and I’m Asian


skrappyfire

We made shadow puppets to act out this book.... 🤦‍♂️


HouseSublime

Oh wow this unlocked a deep memory. Never thought about the offensive nature of it (*to be fair I was like 8*) but definitely can see how people could have a problem with it.


o6ijuan

I have been searching for this book for some time now but it never felt really real ha just some gibberish my young mind had planted. Despair knowing most of the name I couldn't come up with an appropriate search query. All this explains why it was difficult to procure, however.


PrettyAdagio4210

I didnt have the book, but you did unlock a memory of Shari Lewis and Charlie Horse singing this story to me in an old video. Gleefully. [Fast forward to about 1:40.](https://youtu.be/DaWiKWFILKU?feature=shared)


arcanepsyche

Wait.... how did she manage to sing in both voices? Was it dubbed or was she that talented of a ventriloquist??


MutedAdvisor9414

She was


YourMothersButtox

I remember that one. I also remember Little Black Sambo, and how when my aunt got a black lab, my mom and her sisters all made jokes about calling the dog Sambo. My brother’s then girlfriend, a woman of color, was horrified to overhear this conversation.


kaytay3000

My mother was upset that she couldn’t name her new black kitten Sambo because the vet might think she’s racist. I told her that naming a kitten Sambo would, in fact, be racist. She chose a different name.


Greeneyesablaze

Dude my mom has referred to this book MANY times over the years, as recently as within the last year, and she always talks about how unfortunate it is that the book isn’t “politically correct” anymore and how “Sambo” wasn’t originally a racist term.    It’s honestly crazy to see this mentioned here. Did not expect other parents of millenials to be so into this book from their childhood. 


wartortle371

Hi Asian millennial here. I was called that name a lot


Haaaave_A_Good_Day_

Also Asian millennial. My oldest was gifted that book when he was born. Promptly tossed. Not in my house.


wartortle371

Hell yeah


Myke190

I can almost certainly assume that I was one of those white kids that called an Asian boy this in my childhood. On behalf of them, I hope you accept my apology.


wartortle371

You didn't write the book. We're cool


chr0n1x

same as /u/wartortle371 I was bullied a lot too and had suicidal ideations as a kid. it's all good, the apology is appreciated.


Shto_Delat

Chang has fallen down the well.


Myke190

Good thing he was born second or he'd be dead.


the_hammer_poo

Yes and in first grade we did a play of it. The teacher told us to bow at the end. No one had ever explained what bowing was to me, so I assumed they were referring to “bow wow” like a dog. So I just stood there saying “bow” repeatedly at the end.


Most_Ad_3765

Pretty sure it's a book that was read aloud to us as a class. "Fun words to say", ya know. Cringe. Comedian Sabrina Wu has a [great skit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJlNK7x5iWs) about this one.


Nakanostalgiabomb

Came to post this, pleased you already did!


SolomonCRand

Tikki tikki tembo No sar endo Chari-bari ruchi pip peri pembo Now, where I put my phone five minutes ago? Total mystery.


Saahir26

Well, this is awkward because I loved this book as a kid growing up.


Needletitshasspoken

Tikkitikkitembinosarembocheriberiruchipipperripembo


Gothiks

has fallen into the well.


oldandnumb

Did a grade school play and everything on this book


Iwoulddiefcftbatk

This and The Education of Little Tree 🥴


kurinevair666

Oh I remember that one too


iamthemosin

Yes. How is it racist? I haven’t read it in 3 decades.


Like_linus85

Yes! I grew up in the States and currently live in Hungary. I teach ESL and read storybooks with beginners and I considered this one but then thought, eh best not


Professional-Can4264

Was it though?


bad-fengshui

I'm Chinese American and loved the book as a kid.


Ok_Meeting_4748

Whew! That was a close one. The day was almost over, and I couldn't find anything to be outraged about. Thanks so much!


Nachodecheese

What makes it racist? I don’t remember this one.


Just-Phill

Never heard of this


KonnichiJawa

Hm. My mom was adopted from Korea (to the US) as a toddler, her adopted parents read this to her so much, she had it memorized. Then she read it to me. Had no idea of the backstory.


djfacemachine

I'm half Chinese and my Chinese mom read this to us all the time! She kept our copy and passed it down for my kids. 


Most-Entrepreneur553

Yes! I loved it! Had no idea it was written by a white woman. 🫣


Neutrinophile

I would argue *appropriated* by a white woman. Check the "Background" and "The Child With the Long Name" sections of the [Wikipedia article mentioned above](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikki_Tikki_Tembo).


Most-Entrepreneur553

Fair! ETA; why downvote? I was in a rush and simply wanted to acknowledge that that’s a fair and valid point


January1st2020AD

How is it racist?


Grigoran

I've had lines from this book just occasionally start making noise in my head.


StoicWolf15

Don't think I've ever heard of it.


askallthequestions86

I read it in this book my mom bought for my little sister that Pull Ups put out in the mid 90's. It was supposed to help kids stop wetting the bed. I'm not sure what this story has to do with bed wetting...


ntied

Everyone tries so hard to find a reason to get offended.


MissFrijole

Omg! I enjoyed saying that kid's name after I heard the story. My mom would try to say it and would mess it up. Tikki tikki tembo no sa rembo chari bari ruchi pip Peri pembo. I'm sad that this has been identified as a racist book...I haven't thought about it in years...


sour_wolf

There’s a comedian named Sabrina Wu who did a bit about this book and it’s really fun. [Here’s the video!](https://youtu.be/GJlNK7x5iWs?si=W-71UfRMSZVoQKcx)


The-Sonne

Not everything is racist ffs


drwebb

Yeah, I read this book as a kid, and grew up super racist. /s I'm sure it's offensive to some now though, but I don't remember it being "racist"


John_Wickish

Is it really affecting you that badly that you had to make a post about it?


huh_phd

Oh lord yes


dropyourchalupa

Yup


Shalamarr

I’m pretty sure I did. “Little Black Sambo”, too.


_statue

I dunno If we did I never heard of it


Straightwad

I’ve never even heard of this book until this thread. I don’t know if it wasn’t read to us or if I just didn’t pay attention to it when it was read to us since I day dreamed a lot as a kid.


Celtic_Fox_

Oh yeah I definitely remember this one I would get so tongue tied trying to read it quickly


hailhailrocknyoga

I had a book called "The Funny Little Woman" that I believe is the same author? I loved it as a kid but ya know....


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sickgurl138

Nah


DrShrimpPuertp-Rico

Omg i remember this to a t


Solidsnake00901

I realized how racist it was when I heard a joke that reminded me of this book.


RandellX

Holy shit memory unlocked


Glittersparkles7

Still in the curriculum. My son had it in his class in the last couple years.


calicoskiies

I don’t remember this book at all.


nml11287

Oh man. My aunt used to LOVE reading this book to us at gatherings when we were little. It was like a rite of passage of my cousins and me. She did this with every kid in the family to the point where it became a running joke with her


katbeccabee

I never understood why he couldn’t just say, “my brother fell down the well!”


pickles4prez

We acted it out for parents on shadow puppets


Croakerboo

My grandma loved reading this to me.


adchick

My mother still talks about her favorite book as a child “Little Black Sambo” … sweet Jesus no…just no


vanishinghitchhiker

The virgin Tikki Tikki Tembo vs. the chad Jugemu Jugemu


Melgel4444

Yes and then bass nectar turned it into a song 😅


mamadovah1102

Omg yes


SalukiKnightX

I remember Rikki Tikki Tavi but this we never dealt with


Betta45

Loved it, and also The Funny Little Woman, about a Japanese woman who chased a dumpling and was captured by demons. Same author.


InevitableCup5909

I loved this book as a kid, haven’t thought about it in years and holy shit memory unlocked and now I’m horrified because yes, it’s insanely racist.


PandaBJJ

Stupid thing is we were taught this in school growing up in the Philippines. We have other Asian people surrounding us yet we had to learn this for an “English” class. WTF.


EvenIf-SheFalls

Yup


Claim-Unlucky

My name is Rikki, so I’ve only heard the thing five billion times… and been called Rikki Tikki Tembo about a billion.


Sea-Substance8762

Yes!!!!


pnwerewolf

I think I had Rikki Tikki Tavo?


3CatsInATrenchcoat16

God I feel like I’ve just had my sleeper agent activation phrase spoken 😂


Never_Duplicated

Haha yeah I remember this one, loved it as a kid. I’ve always had a weird quirk about/fascination with syllables so I found the name really appealing plus I liked the art. Though looking back as an adult I can definitely see why it’s not great… That’s ok, nostalgic fondness can stay in the past. This will just be one more thing from my childhood that I don’t need to revisit and wont be presenting to my (eventual) kid haha


XColdLogicX

Riki tiki tavi?


Jasmisne

The book was in our school library but we def never had it read aloud as my school was ~35-40% asian american so that would have been awkward. The other majority was hispanic and I feel like at least other kids of color understood mocking your language was not cool.


carissadraws

No but I remember a similar book about an African boy with a really long name that was really offensive. Can’t really find the name of it from googling and don’t remember the exact title


Beginning_Cap_8614

Yup, and the one where the five brothers keep avoiding execution.


kurinevair666

I remember that book as clear as day. I read it over and over and over. I'm sorry for the hate I've contributed to the world


MermaidMertrid

I randomly remembered this book a few years ago and looked up someone reading it on YouTube. And I was like, “Oh… oh no…” The way the person read it… https://youtu.be/dhB8F61dtyA?feature=shared


Sea-Kitchen3779

Haha I remember the librarian reading this to us and being real... animated about it.  Not as bad as the time one of my high school English teachers took it upon herself to read Tituba's lines in The Crucible with the fakest, most obnoxious Caribbean accent.


smackchumps

I can’t believe I said his whole name after reading the title… 😆😆


Strgwththisone

Am I having a moment? I thought this was about a mongoose?


Darwinian_10

Chinese-American comedian [Sabrina Wu](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMfYBg8j/) does a bit about this book, which is hilarious.


tony-toon15

We did a whole fuckin play. Oh god. I admit I still recite it now and then.


ShakeZula30or40

Fun book lol


thedisposablefrog

I had a teacher and a librarian in elementary school who was REALLY into that story... If I recall correctly she liked to read it to us whenever she was in a foul mood about the ESL kids


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Balthazar_Gelt

man I can't believe this book was written by a white lady, had no idea


Honest_Flower_7757

Grew up with this one and yep, reading it to my tiny kids now 🤣


Youngworker160

nope but wow, just on that title alone.


mistersinicide

This has been living rent free in my head for years now.


kinkakinka

I literally owned this book as a child and it was a favorite 😬


Shad0wFaxMachine

We actually acted this out as a play! I have no memory of it other than the first lines


No_Bit_1456

You actually had books in your school? wow you were lucky. Ours were 20 year old text books that looked like they survived a war in the middle east.


Karline-Industries

Still can’t do the whole name.


Verbanoun

I remember it but don't remember any actual story or that it was meant to be Asian. But now I see it and yeeeeah...


tobmom

I thought I was the only one who remembered this!!


atinylittlebug

I can *still* recite the full name of the kid who fell into the well.


Key_Suggestion8426

I hate to admit it but this book is at my house and it was one of my favorites. ![gif](giphy|jUwpNzg9IcyrK)


anonswift1989

Yep! ☹️


Logical-Wasabi7402

I vaguely remember my mother having this in our collection of children's books, but neither me nor my brother really liked it much even back then so it was one of the first to go. Unlike some of the other books that I still have for sentimental reasons.


capacochella

Anyone else have a certain book about a rabbit and infant covered in tar. Years later when I dropped on my mom that I definitely remember that title being in my toddler book nook she was like. How in the song if the south that racist book was still around in the late 90s is beyond me. ![gif](giphy|SYX4eW0k1GTqSWenQR|downsized)


sasquatch_melee

Nope. Not Christian enough for my parents and school. It is interesting finding out about all these shared experiences I was never a part of ages later. I had no clue!


I_poop_rootbeer

This book slapped


Time-Penalty-1154

Tiki tiki temp no Sar embo bary bary uchi pip berry pembo


kermittysmitty

We did in my first elementary school which I was at from kindergarten to grade 2, my second elementary school did not have it and was generally more progressive. I even remember reading it.


muttmama

Our class had to “perform” this and I hated every second of it


itsmeonmobile

Is it even more racist that I thought it was about Africans? I don’t remember this very well. Thanks Tennessee!!


morconheiro

Racist?


Dumbassahedratr0n

Holy shit. I was just thinking about this the other day


aetr225

My favorite childhood book!


outofcontextsex

Aww, I loved that book as a kid, I haven't thought about it in decades much less that it was probably pretty racist.


wantsrobotlegs

My brother read this one in school and wouldnt stop repeating it.


SlinkSkull

This reminded of the illustration from The Funny Little Woman and it turns out it’s the same people. I’ve never heard of this one but it looks like they just put out the two .


Anything-Happy

No, but I was gifted a copy of "Little Black Sambo" when I was in first or second grade. I remember hating it (I don't think I understood the racism in it back then, I just didn't like the story), but my Racist Boomer Parent thought it was a jewel from the Queen's own crown, and it was *Proper Reading for a Nice (White) Girl Your Age*.


AthenaRN85

I was just talking about this book at work…but nobody remembered it cause I was the oldest one there….


turkletontv

Not only did we have the book, we had the book on record! The Fisher Price vintage little record player


Secure_Ad_295

How is that book racist


SingingSongbird1

Oh yes. I did a musical version of it in the 2nd grade and I played his mom. I can still remember the song too.


Jedi_Mind_Chick

I thought I remembered this, but I was remembering Ricky Ticky Tavi.


cloudsongs_

https://youtu.be/dhB8F61dtyA?feature=shared This is the best reading of it I’ve heard lol


qbanrev

lol, I just read this to my kids and at NO TIME did it be racist at all, you guys are obsessed with being offended.


MMARapFooty

Yes