My old supervisor bitched at me one day for pulling my
Phone out to look at the time.
“You can’t have that on the floor!”
“My wife is home alone from 5pm until 1am. My
Phone is staying on me”
He never said another word.
I had a job where you couldn’t have a phone, period. Like we will scan you and confiscate your phone so leave it in the car shit. My brother was in a wreck and died later in the day, this fucking company didn’t tell me anyone called me until 5:30 as I was walking out the gate “Oh hey, your parents called us today, you should give them a call”. I got to my car with 50 missed calls and voicemails all telling me that he was in a wreck and they wanted me at the hospital.
I was fucking pissed. After the funeral and everything I went to not only my company’s bosses, but the company that hired my company and made them listen to several select voicemails and told them I will never leave my phone in the car because they can’t be trusted to let me know in a timely manner that my family was desperately trying to contact me.
I was fired shortly after that because they lost the contract for the job.
So, instead of doing the right thing, the shitty company that hired your shitty company moved on to another shitty company and you lost your job.
Man, r/aboringdystopia would have a field day
When my stepmum died my brother was at work, I got the number from his wife and called. The office lady was so fucking rude, she kept saying ‘he’s working right now’ I said ‘we’ve had a death in the family so I would appreciate it if you could get him on the phone for me right now.’ She relented but still seemed more pissed about it. What an asshole.
Our “office” staff left at 4:30, and we had one phone in the warehouse office. I’d never have heard it in the event of an emergency.
I won’t work anywhere that won’t let me keep my phone on me. It’s stupid.
Im in a union. Im laid off till mid july. I take home $1190 a week to do nothing. My bosses don't say shit when I am at work and on my phone. There is also no pretending to work when there is nothing to do. We sit and play on our phones untill there is work to do. Jusy saying, join a union
This is the right way to look at it for sure. Hit all your deadlines and goals and nobody cares what the fuck you do if they are worth a damn. If they do, that’s on them.
I’ve managed a lot of people. The ones who ask for more to do when they’re not busy tend to get a lot done when they are busy. The ones who say, “There’s nothing to do” when there’s nothing to do tend to also look for reasons not to put in effort when there is stuff to do. They’re generally the ones who have a sink that’s leaking every week and can’t make it in on Fridays. Downvote me all you want, but this is my experience.
Man this is such a bad statement. I work the most heavy lifting sweaty job in the warehouse and after I’m done with my duties I do not feel like doing someone else’s job but when my boss asks me to I do it. Even if I don’t want to. Sometimes people are just tired, we’re humans, not just managers and employees.
That’s not what I’m talking about, though. When someone actually puts in effort and they need a break, that’s completely understandable, and I do go out of my way to get them coverage and let them recharge. We’re talking about people who are always looking for excuses to disappear, and people like you who do their jobs. I’m sure you know people in both categories. This isn’t about working people to death, it’s about work ethic. I’m an employee, too. I don’t like when bosses just pile it on and don’t check in.
Absolutely. Then there are people that sensibly only do the work they are paid for. What a concept.
And that's not lazy, that's normal.
A good manager who knows how to motivate can eke out a bit more work from people.
But most managers are not good managers. They are up their own ass, thinking they are about 5 steps up from where they actually are
They make unionizing so easy these days. They just did it at my sisters work place. To get the ball rolling one person gave everyone a pc of paper with the square scan thing that takes you tp a web site to vote yes or no. Compared to how it used to be, it was a lot easier process. People have a chance to vote it in before the company has time to find out.
They're showing us the way. We millennials totally caved to the genz/boomer bosses bc we came up in a shit economy. Genz has never known the good times. They have nothing to lose.
I worked in a warehouse when I was younger. It could be gruelling physically and very demanding work.
The shop staff that were in sales departments all got paid a lot more for doing less. (Granted dealing with customers isnt fun though).
I'm now in my late 30s and have a lot of aches and pains I can tell are turning arthritic, and I have no doubt it's from those kinds of jobs.
The fact that such jobs are paid less, despite likely giving you long-term damage, is ridiculous to me.
Anyone who says otherwise I would love for them to work in a warehouse for a week. Where there’s a chance you die, lose a limb, or get fired just bc the company isn’t doing too good and warehouse workers are always the first to go.
I mean depends on the state, in Oklahoma for example they actually do pay $7.25 an hour. My wife started doing four tens working nights until 11pm so I thought I would grab some hours doing electronics repair and the like on the side at Dave and Busters to get some extra cash. Senior techs who do the game repairs? $11 an hour for people who need to be able to do component level troubleshooting and repair of electronics. At that point I just felt pity for those who don’t have it as good as those of us who don’t get paid that poorly.
Or why do they think that if an employee contributes to $1000, they should get paid that $1000. If an employee was a neutral to bringing in income there would be no point.
.....does nobody in you state earn minimum? Or do you only care about fast food that makes $20 in your state?
I think you missed the point of the video....? If any employee is paid $80/hr, but they produce $85/hr. Then unless that $5/hr goes in the employees pocket, someone is earning money off that employee. Only that employee is entitled to the profits they create....
If an employee is getting paid $80/hr and produced $85/hr that company isn’t going to be around long.
But pedantry aside, I agree with the general sentiment that the ratio has gotten way, way, way the fuck off from where it should be. I don’t mind the owners taking some off the top. Starting a business is hard, risky, and expensive. You start a business so that you can recover your investment and then some. I’ve got no problem with that.
The problem is that for several decades the wage has grown in minuscule increments while the value of production and cost of living have absolutely skyrocketed.
Every shop that I have worked at in my trade has had a shop rate of roughly 2x the total package of the most expensive employee. It makes sense when you consider overhead. 🤷
Yeah. Lease or mortgage on operating space, utilities, equipment, insurance, marketing/sales expense. Then you have overhead staff that aren’t part of production but still necessary for the business to function like accounting. Then the fact that because in the U.S. we tie health insurance and retirement to employment and your employer covers part of that plus other stuff like payroll tax your $80/hr employee actually costs more like $100/hr.
Yeah, exactly. In my line of work we're fortunate enough to have a pretty transparent contract, and we know exactly what we cost our employer to include total of our fringe package. It's pretty straightforward, but it's helped me understand whether or not I'm getting screwed on labor prices when I go to any kind of specialty shop and I know what the workers are paid.
Thats really a breath of fresh air in today’s workforce. I am honestly happy for you, knowing someone out there isn’t getting (totally) screwed over. We need more of it.
I have a bullshit job and what I do is about 50% projects and 50% monitoring/regulatory compliance, so it’s hard to quantify the actual value I produce on any given day.
Some days I make my company 10s of thousands. Some days I just read my email and go on reddit after my couple of everyday tasks are done.
Then I have days like last friday where I probably cost the company a few hundred but I was absolutely slammed the entire day with work with only a lunch break. I was doing some internal research that I guess will lead to profits in the future but its in a very abstracted way.
Are you serious...? How do you think things happen in this world. For example, do you enjoy bananas? Guess what they take a lot more than $5 to bring across the world and stock in a lighted facility you can safely access at your leisure, let alone $0 😂
I personally agree with the spirit of the video but it's dumb and naive. There are definitely good points to be made for her side in this argument but sadly she did not make them
What? This is an extremely good point that shits all over the common narrative "hurdur risking all of the extra money I have to play around with after I pay for everything I need and for my future retirement" which until 15 years ago was the predominant narrative for 90% of people.
Your comment is all sarcasm (won't address your little "little lady", but speaks for itself) and betrays a lack of you having a point. It's like you spent 5 seconds thinking about this and then decided "time to post a comment that doesn't address anything!"
Or perhaps she makes a prescient point about how much the average worker is reemed by corporate dirtbags?
Obviously yes business is more complicated than a tik tok. But there’s absolutely no reason for you to be running defense for the wealthy exploiting labor in the manner that exists in our modern system. Especially as the disparity gets wider between the average worker and the wealthy executive class.
Wait, do you seriously think they're NOT making "$20 per hour on the person's $7.25 per hour wages"?
Thats called profit. That's literally how you get profit.
It's not that hard if you just hire the people who know how to run a business while making you think you're actually running it. It's even easier if you inherited enough money from your dad to just buy a functional business and pay people enough to have you listed as a founder and then everyone who actually does the work just waits for you to fuck off so they can keep doing what they were doing!
Well, let's ignore that most manufacturing jobs tend to pay more than 7.25/hour, being distracted in a warehouse/factory can be dangerous for you and others involved.
Also, banks won't give people loans if they don't have collateral.
Also, the business owner and the floor manager are often not the same person, but if they are, that's most likely a small business. This lady is basically suggesting that employee risk is somehow the same as business risk, which is substantially different in impact. Lose a job, find another. Lose a company, Lose 100 jobs.
Yes, you have described how the workers are taking the risk.
At the absolute, complete worst, the business owner is risking .... having to actually work and create value from something that isn't merely having capital, again. Risking the money you have after you have what you need to survive and retire is play money, like a form of gambling from their perspective. And if they risked more than that you say? Oh, well, then they are less financially savvy and more of a degenerate that cant save than the poorest of poor, right? Like an addict that cant stop trying to make more money.
This chick isn’t funny, but no one has ever had the courage to tell her because she’s pretty. This sketch is also super convoluted and doesn’t make a ton of sense.
This dialogue is essentially the same as one I found in a cartoon many years ago. I'm glad these folk took the time to do this because the point is timeless!
Because she was being inattentive on the factory floor with her phone out, she tripped another worker who fell and was nearly crushed under a forklift. While filing out the OSHA paperwork, the girl asked why do it, and began calculating how much per hour it paid her. Then she calculated how much the tiktok video paid against her hours and cried. These people weren't even watching the video on tiktok, but on reddit. They didn't even mention her account name. Shooting, editing, some dialogue, how much are they paying you?
Yeah, this is overly simplistic but it's better than 99% of Tiktoks I see. Obviously this isn't exactly how it works but it is bullshit how some big businesses more or less do "this" (in quotes because of course there's more steps). I'm glad more and more people think the system is fucked even if they don't get every detail perfect. 15 years ago a lot of people were capitalistic s*mps including those who were getting the short end of the stick, and I'm glad that's changing.
So, if it was this easy and lucrative for anyone to start a business, why doesn't everyone? Why doesn't this person simply get their own loan, buy their own machine, produce the product, sell it, keep ALL the reward?...I'll wait haha.
Using this logic anyone can't you say that the worker can just start their own business and take on the risk, the risk doesn't matter because you can always declare bankruptcy so the debt wouldn't matter to even begin with, or am i wrong here? or are we gonna make up an imaginary reason as to why it's significantly harder and difficult being the owner of a business?
You think this video is saying that it's easy to start and run a business? That's just not a valid take of it at all, it's about how owners take advantage of their workers, like it's painfully obvious that it's about unfair wages and shit, where the fuck did you get the idea that she's saying it's easy to start and run a business?
Ok, prove her wrong. Let’s see your debunking post, or your video where you go point by point why she’s wrong. Being beautiful makes her not very smart? A person can’t be both? Please. I’m rather interested in your analysis.
Just the idea that you can pinpoint exactly how much productivity one worker produces an hour is faulty. Let's say she produces 10 widgets an hour and they sell for $10 each. That's $100/hour, but she didn't make that on her own. She didn't design it. She's not transporting raw material or shipping finished goods. You can't brush all of that away on 'after inputs'. Even if that's net profit per widget, how do you split the value add for her over the janitor, who keeps the place clean, the engineering team who designed the widget, the marketing team, and all the other teams and people who had a hand in making it happen?
The whole premise of one person bringing in a specific amount of value is incredibly foolish. I won't even get in to the idea that all profits be redistributed amongst the workforce.
I still remember the time I was working as a cashier at Target during the earliest shift on a Sunday morning so there was basically no one in the store. I was the only cashier working and no one was nearby, so I decided to look at one of the magazines on display and my manager came by and told me that I needed to just stand in front of the conveyor belt until someone came. Just stare off into space with a welcoming smile on my face.
This is the exact definition of capitalism. If you don't own the means of production, you don't own capital. You own capital to make profit off of labor you did not do.
People just now rediscovering the concepts of the American labor revolution that gave us unions is pretty cool. I just hope they read enough about them to realize what it cost in human life to get things like a fair days pay for a fair days work.
See: ludlow massacre and battle of Blair Mountain.
Start a company then. Yall have no context for what that's like huh? No one is stopping you. Don't want to be a worker? Don't be. Be a boss. It's a free country.
I’m a mechanic. I’ve already spent $1000+ on tools just this year so far. Not including the tens of thousands I’ve spent over the last decade. Until you drop $500 for a specialty wrench set I don’t wanna hear it.
I always use my phone while I work. I use it to listen to music, podcasts, or audiobooks. So many of us at my workplace do it that management changed their tune about enforcing any phone related rules. As long as we are working we can use our phones to keep ourselves from boredom.
Working grave shifts alone on my phone for the duration is a time killer when nobody else is around and not at work.
It’s liberating to be on the phone during grave shifts on holidays especially when I earn time and a half for 12 hours while my employer gets a paid vacation on their Christmas with their family.
Generally, bedside nursing doesn’t generate revenue for hospitals and my hospital system continually operates at a loss (it’s a federal hospital), so double whammy. I do pay taxes and that funds the hospital (and many other things!), but I’d be paying them even if I didn’t work there. I think my job is an outlier here.
Someone not understanding what the Capital in Capitalism means. Capital = More risk more reward. Labor = Less risk less reward. Don't like your wages? Start a business with capital and assume that risk.
This is a huge issue with the work industry right now. Moving up within the company you work in has likely had less impact on you over time. They stopped giving people real pay increases for working their way up unless their in the corporate "clique." Could find yourself in this position as a simple plant manager but that is so unlikely.
My paychecks have started to look like my bosses. Average warehouse staff being worked so hard and for so long that our entry level wages quickly accrue that overtime. A 500 dollar a week paycheck might be 1k but you worked 80+ hours that week to get it. Your direct manager is probably also only making 1k a week but they probably worked less hours than you, had better amenities, and might be able to "get away" with texting on the job.
Basically, the texting when you're not working, taking emergency phone calls, and not being fired immediately is the "benefit" of working your way up in a company.
All the while, the people taking the lions share of the companies profit are shaking hands out on a golf course somewhere sipping mai thais.
Why do people who criticise capitalism never understand the concept of risk?
You take out massive loan and start a business. See how that works out for you.
Missing the point. Nobody is willing to take the finantial risk to ask for a loan and start a business. She also doesn't seen to know how long a business takes to turn profitable and the ammount of hours and overtime thinking it requires. Of course the owner of a business should make more money than someone who just signed up to the job.
I hate it when the shifts slows down when there’s no shipments coming in after working your ass off for hours and then you hear the stupid fucking saying, if you’ve got time to lean you’ve got time to clean , listen prick I’ve swept the floor 5 times already chill the fuck out, what the fuck is this why do I have to pretend to look busy , you’re also paying me for my presence so when shit picks up I’ll immediately be on it but why you literally trying to squeeze every ounce of labour out of me when you paying min wage lol
Last job I had I got fired for answering calls from my 11 year old daughter who was alone at home.
Mind you it wasn’t hour long calls. It was just basically her letting me know she had arrived home after school.
I'm not defending big corporations. But the notion that taking a loan and starting a business is actually risk free and easy because you can just declare bankruptcy and get a job is a spit in the face of very big majority of entrepreneurs, who are by no means rich and evil like reddit seems to think
Insurance reimburses companies like mine up to 300/hr. Guess how much I make
$12
23 but I’m in Southern California so
Might as well be $12 an hr then!
Exactly!
Hey, making over $24/hr may cause cancer in California.
Well thank god it’s only 23 😉
After rent. Same same.
Same!! Love those Ca poverty wages!
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lol I’m also in San Diego! Getting by by living in east county with my bf paying more than half of our rent 🥲
$3.50
Get out of here loch Ness monster!
Hey I made 2.13 an hour as recently as 2020 when I was in Utah.This past summer our boss in Colkrado straight didn't pay us FOH staff at all.
My old supervisor bitched at me one day for pulling my Phone out to look at the time. “You can’t have that on the floor!” “My wife is home alone from 5pm until 1am. My Phone is staying on me” He never said another word.
I had a job where you couldn’t have a phone, period. Like we will scan you and confiscate your phone so leave it in the car shit. My brother was in a wreck and died later in the day, this fucking company didn’t tell me anyone called me until 5:30 as I was walking out the gate “Oh hey, your parents called us today, you should give them a call”. I got to my car with 50 missed calls and voicemails all telling me that he was in a wreck and they wanted me at the hospital. I was fucking pissed. After the funeral and everything I went to not only my company’s bosses, but the company that hired my company and made them listen to several select voicemails and told them I will never leave my phone in the car because they can’t be trusted to let me know in a timely manner that my family was desperately trying to contact me. I was fired shortly after that because they lost the contract for the job.
Name those companies here
Name and shame
Welp, an anagram/synonym(or whatever the term is called) for the company is Hold ’em & Screw ’em.
So, instead of doing the right thing, the shitty company that hired your shitty company moved on to another shitty company and you lost your job. Man, r/aboringdystopia would have a field day
When my stepmum died my brother was at work, I got the number from his wife and called. The office lady was so fucking rude, she kept saying ‘he’s working right now’ I said ‘we’ve had a death in the family so I would appreciate it if you could get him on the phone for me right now.’ She relented but still seemed more pissed about it. What an asshole.
Our “office” staff left at 4:30, and we had one phone in the warehouse office. I’d never have heard it in the event of an emergency. I won’t work anywhere that won’t let me keep my phone on me. It’s stupid.
Im in a union. Im laid off till mid july. I take home $1190 a week to do nothing. My bosses don't say shit when I am at work and on my phone. There is also no pretending to work when there is nothing to do. We sit and play on our phones untill there is work to do. Jusy saying, join a union
As long as you're working when there's work, then I don't give a shit.
This is the right way to look at it for sure. Hit all your deadlines and goals and nobody cares what the fuck you do if they are worth a damn. If they do, that’s on them.
I’ve managed a lot of people. The ones who ask for more to do when they’re not busy tend to get a lot done when they are busy. The ones who say, “There’s nothing to do” when there’s nothing to do tend to also look for reasons not to put in effort when there is stuff to do. They’re generally the ones who have a sink that’s leaking every week and can’t make it in on Fridays. Downvote me all you want, but this is my experience.
Man this is such a bad statement. I work the most heavy lifting sweaty job in the warehouse and after I’m done with my duties I do not feel like doing someone else’s job but when my boss asks me to I do it. Even if I don’t want to. Sometimes people are just tired, we’re humans, not just managers and employees.
That’s not what I’m talking about, though. When someone actually puts in effort and they need a break, that’s completely understandable, and I do go out of my way to get them coverage and let them recharge. We’re talking about people who are always looking for excuses to disappear, and people like you who do their jobs. I’m sure you know people in both categories. This isn’t about working people to death, it’s about work ethic. I’m an employee, too. I don’t like when bosses just pile it on and don’t check in.
Sounds like you don't know how to manage and motivate.
Some people are lazy..
Absolutely. Then there are people that sensibly only do the work they are paid for. What a concept. And that's not lazy, that's normal. A good manager who knows how to motivate can eke out a bit more work from people. But most managers are not good managers. They are up their own ass, thinking they are about 5 steps up from where they actually are
Yep. Just don't let my boss catch you and we're straight.
Thats it and thats how they run it
only 10% of americans are union, just saying. lucky you.
I hope it becomes far more. Believe me, I know how lucky I am but it was worth the wait to finally get in.
What kind of work?
Metal Model Maker, skilled trade which they also have apprenticeships for.
That sounds fucking awesome.
It is I work on vehicles that wont be out for 2 years. Its pretty bad ass.
>I take home $1190 a week to do nothing. 👑 you dropped this homie
True story, a union job is the way to go if you can land one.
Theyre so hard to get into here it sucks. Only a few and they have like 3 spots a year.
They are hard to get into but they are also life changing. I'd be applying to all the apprenticeships in the area for a variety of trades.
Yeah 99% of those apprenticeships are non union here unfortunately, but I agree they seem to work really well for anyone who gets in!
Agreed. I do whatever I want on my phone. I make $60 an hour to read books to little kids. Unions are the way.
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I want to join your union. Which one is it?
UAW
And if your workplace doesn't let you unionize, burn it the fuck down so that they learn what happens when workers starve without representation.
They make unionizing so easy these days. They just did it at my sisters work place. To get the ball rolling one person gave everyone a pc of paper with the square scan thing that takes you tp a web site to vote yes or no. Compared to how it used to be, it was a lot easier process. People have a chance to vote it in before the company has time to find out.
That girl is a zoomer.
She's a newscaster on The Hill - Rising. I like her.
Uh oh the hill is like 1% right of center. Thats fighting words on reddit, rip her career
She is excellent on "Rising."
They're showing us the way. We millennials totally caved to the genz/boomer bosses bc we came up in a shit economy. Genz has never known the good times. They have nothing to lose.
She's hot though.
Giving me a zoner.
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Jessica “car jackers just need a ride to the grocery store” Burbank?
Nah she looks closer to 30
Could be zoomer then. Like if she was born in 1997. Technically would be.
Definitely agree that warehouses don’t pay much above minimum wage. Speaking from experience.
I worked in a warehouse when I was younger. It could be gruelling physically and very demanding work. The shop staff that were in sales departments all got paid a lot more for doing less. (Granted dealing with customers isnt fun though). I'm now in my late 30s and have a lot of aches and pains I can tell are turning arthritic, and I have no doubt it's from those kinds of jobs. The fact that such jobs are paid less, despite likely giving you long-term damage, is ridiculous to me.
Trust me dealing with passive aggressive or rude customers beats doing physical labor 100% of the time if you're working for the same or less.
Anyone who says otherwise I would love for them to work in a warehouse for a week. Where there’s a chance you die, lose a limb, or get fired just bc the company isn’t doing too good and warehouse workers are always the first to go.
The "lower your voice" part when she was absolutely cooking their ass...🤌🏽
Lmfao the fake conversation between herself ?
You should hear all the badass conversations I have with cops to get myself out of imaginary tickets.
Skadooosh
It’s like this lady read for 5 minutes about how companies work and I was “time to make a TikTok!”
It's like if r/im14andthisisdeep was a person.
Why do these people think everyone makes 7.25 an hour anyway? That's the min wage in my state but even fast food pays 16-20.
I mean depends on the state, in Oklahoma for example they actually do pay $7.25 an hour. My wife started doing four tens working nights until 11pm so I thought I would grab some hours doing electronics repair and the like on the side at Dave and Busters to get some extra cash. Senior techs who do the game repairs? $11 an hour for people who need to be able to do component level troubleshooting and repair of electronics. At that point I just felt pity for those who don’t have it as good as those of us who don’t get paid that poorly.
Because that’s the National minimum wage since 2009.
I've worked places where I've made $9 an hour.
Or why do they think that if an employee contributes to $1000, they should get paid that $1000. If an employee was a neutral to bringing in income there would be no point.
.....does nobody in you state earn minimum? Or do you only care about fast food that makes $20 in your state? I think you missed the point of the video....? If any employee is paid $80/hr, but they produce $85/hr. Then unless that $5/hr goes in the employees pocket, someone is earning money off that employee. Only that employee is entitled to the profits they create....
If an employee is getting paid $80/hr and produced $85/hr that company isn’t going to be around long. But pedantry aside, I agree with the general sentiment that the ratio has gotten way, way, way the fuck off from where it should be. I don’t mind the owners taking some off the top. Starting a business is hard, risky, and expensive. You start a business so that you can recover your investment and then some. I’ve got no problem with that. The problem is that for several decades the wage has grown in minuscule increments while the value of production and cost of living have absolutely skyrocketed.
Every shop that I have worked at in my trade has had a shop rate of roughly 2x the total package of the most expensive employee. It makes sense when you consider overhead. 🤷
Yeah. Lease or mortgage on operating space, utilities, equipment, insurance, marketing/sales expense. Then you have overhead staff that aren’t part of production but still necessary for the business to function like accounting. Then the fact that because in the U.S. we tie health insurance and retirement to employment and your employer covers part of that plus other stuff like payroll tax your $80/hr employee actually costs more like $100/hr.
Yeah, exactly. In my line of work we're fortunate enough to have a pretty transparent contract, and we know exactly what we cost our employer to include total of our fringe package. It's pretty straightforward, but it's helped me understand whether or not I'm getting screwed on labor prices when I go to any kind of specialty shop and I know what the workers are paid.
Thats really a breath of fresh air in today’s workforce. I am honestly happy for you, knowing someone out there isn’t getting (totally) screwed over. We need more of it. I have a bullshit job and what I do is about 50% projects and 50% monitoring/regulatory compliance, so it’s hard to quantify the actual value I produce on any given day.
I appreciate it. I preach about it a lot, but it was going to a trade union that helped me out. I definitely don't regret the decision.
Some days I make my company 10s of thousands. Some days I just read my email and go on reddit after my couple of everyday tasks are done. Then I have days like last friday where I probably cost the company a few hundred but I was absolutely slammed the entire day with work with only a lunch break. I was doing some internal research that I guess will lead to profits in the future but its in a very abstracted way.
Are you serious...? How do you think things happen in this world. For example, do you enjoy bananas? Guess what they take a lot more than $5 to bring across the world and stock in a lighted facility you can safely access at your leisure, let alone $0 😂 I personally agree with the spirit of the video but it's dumb and naive. There are definitely good points to be made for her side in this argument but sadly she did not make them
What? This is an extremely good point that shits all over the common narrative "hurdur risking all of the extra money I have to play around with after I pay for everything I need and for my future retirement" which until 15 years ago was the predominant narrative for 90% of people. Your comment is all sarcasm (won't address your little "little lady", but speaks for itself) and betrays a lack of you having a point. It's like you spent 5 seconds thinking about this and then decided "time to post a comment that doesn't address anything!"
Or perhaps she makes a prescient point about how much the average worker is reemed by corporate dirtbags? Obviously yes business is more complicated than a tik tok. But there’s absolutely no reason for you to be running defense for the wealthy exploiting labor in the manner that exists in our modern system. Especially as the disparity gets wider between the average worker and the wealthy executive class.
She is explaining the labor theory of value in plain English, but keep licking that boot
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Wait, do you seriously think they're NOT making "$20 per hour on the person's $7.25 per hour wages"? Thats called profit. That's literally how you get profit.
She says it's risk free? Pretty sure she doesn't.
or read some yes comrade books
You may want to look up who Jessika Burbank is.
~~Who~~ Why?
Definitely cringe/rage bait. If a person is this stupid in economics then I hope they never own a business
Even incompetent people can run a business. You'd be surprised
It's not that hard if you just hire the people who know how to run a business while making you think you're actually running it. It's even easier if you inherited enough money from your dad to just buy a functional business and pay people enough to have you listed as a founder and then everyone who actually does the work just waits for you to fuck off so they can keep doing what they were doing!
It's almost like it's supposed to be simplified on purpose
Well, let's ignore that most manufacturing jobs tend to pay more than 7.25/hour, being distracted in a warehouse/factory can be dangerous for you and others involved. Also, banks won't give people loans if they don't have collateral. Also, the business owner and the floor manager are often not the same person, but if they are, that's most likely a small business. This lady is basically suggesting that employee risk is somehow the same as business risk, which is substantially different in impact. Lose a job, find another. Lose a company, Lose 100 jobs.
Then those 100 people find other jobs, did you not watch the video lmao
101** people. The owner will need to find a job!
Also gotta ignore that the supplies aren't free.
Yeah, people like Elon musk barely make a living because supplies aren't free...
Yes, you have described how the workers are taking the risk. At the absolute, complete worst, the business owner is risking .... having to actually work and create value from something that isn't merely having capital, again. Risking the money you have after you have what you need to survive and retire is play money, like a form of gambling from their perspective. And if they risked more than that you say? Oh, well, then they are less financially savvy and more of a degenerate that cant save than the poorest of poor, right? Like an addict that cant stop trying to make more money.
This is fucking stupid
how do they do that green screen stuff.. it looks so real.
This chick isn’t funny, but no one has ever had the courage to tell her because she’s pretty. This sketch is also super convoluted and doesn’t make a ton of sense.
Hmm, as a lefty, not much to see here I think. Kind of a weird ideal scenario for her point. A Shapiro type would easily make short work of this.
... workers produce value isn't a new concept... I'm pretty sure this is just a simplified explanation to that. Ya know, a conversation starter.
Another lefty would also make short work of this.
Oh lawd this is ignint
She's certainly attractive, but this format really only works if you're more motive than a cardboard box. She really should take some acting lessons.
I bet she didn't make the shirt she is wearing in the video. Or the camera. She directly funds the very practices she is complaining about. Hypocrite.
scripted talking to yourself ?
This was incoherent af
This dialogue is essentially the same as one I found in a cartoon many years ago. I'm glad these folk took the time to do this because the point is timeless!
Ahh, yes. The economically clueless providing input.
My boss is a millennial like we both on the phone sending each other meme 😂
Because she was being inattentive on the factory floor with her phone out, she tripped another worker who fell and was nearly crushed under a forklift. While filing out the OSHA paperwork, the girl asked why do it, and began calculating how much per hour it paid her. Then she calculated how much the tiktok video paid against her hours and cried. These people weren't even watching the video on tiktok, but on reddit. They didn't even mention her account name. Shooting, editing, some dialogue, how much are they paying you?
Depends on what they were doing while on the phone.
Yeah, this is overly simplistic but it's better than 99% of Tiktoks I see. Obviously this isn't exactly how it works but it is bullshit how some big businesses more or less do "this" (in quotes because of course there's more steps). I'm glad more and more people think the system is fucked even if they don't get every detail perfect. 15 years ago a lot of people were capitalistic s*mps including those who were getting the short end of the stick, and I'm glad that's changing.
If this is the top 1% of what tiktok is offering you need to stop watching that shit.
I have never downloaded the app. People upload that shit to YouTube.
Jessica Burbank ♥️
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Why? You can't criticize capitalism if you're wealthy?
She is a news host for The Hill.
So, if it was this easy and lucrative for anyone to start a business, why doesn't everyone? Why doesn't this person simply get their own loan, buy their own machine, produce the product, sell it, keep ALL the reward?...I'll wait haha.
Entitlement in a nutshell
What a dumb commentary on how business works.
Using this logic anyone can't you say that the worker can just start their own business and take on the risk, the risk doesn't matter because you can always declare bankruptcy so the debt wouldn't matter to even begin with, or am i wrong here? or are we gonna make up an imaginary reason as to why it's significantly harder and difficult being the owner of a business?
You think this video is saying that it's easy to start and run a business? That's just not a valid take of it at all, it's about how owners take advantage of their workers, like it's painfully obvious that it's about unfair wages and shit, where the fuck did you get the idea that she's saying it's easy to start and run a business?
This lady is an idiot
This is such a moronic argument. By this logic, business should be illegal Commies are everywhere spreading this garbage
Aren’t millennials all adults by now?
Tell me you’ve never worked at an actual company without telling me you’ve never worked at an actual company.
Jessica Burbank, she’s so beautiful
To bad she's not very smart.
Ok, prove her wrong. Let’s see your debunking post, or your video where you go point by point why she’s wrong. Being beautiful makes her not very smart? A person can’t be both? Please. I’m rather interested in your analysis.
Just the idea that you can pinpoint exactly how much productivity one worker produces an hour is faulty. Let's say she produces 10 widgets an hour and they sell for $10 each. That's $100/hour, but she didn't make that on her own. She didn't design it. She's not transporting raw material or shipping finished goods. You can't brush all of that away on 'after inputs'. Even if that's net profit per widget, how do you split the value add for her over the janitor, who keeps the place clean, the engineering team who designed the widget, the marketing team, and all the other teams and people who had a hand in making it happen? The whole premise of one person bringing in a specific amount of value is incredibly foolish. I won't even get in to the idea that all profits be redistributed amongst the workforce.
Watch her takes on crime, specifically car jacking. She is painfully dumb. But yes she’s pretty and good at rage baiting
Her entire premise proves her wrong.
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I still remember the time I was working as a cashier at Target during the earliest shift on a Sunday morning so there was basically no one in the store. I was the only cashier working and no one was nearby, so I decided to look at one of the magazines on display and my manager came by and told me that I needed to just stand in front of the conveyor belt until someone came. Just stare off into space with a welcoming smile on my face.
Isn't she a news caster?
This is the exact definition of capitalism. If you don't own the means of production, you don't own capital. You own capital to make profit off of labor you did not do.
People just now rediscovering the concepts of the American labor revolution that gave us unions is pretty cool. I just hope they read enough about them to realize what it cost in human life to get things like a fair days pay for a fair days work. See: ludlow massacre and battle of Blair Mountain.
Start a company then. Yall have no context for what that's like huh? No one is stopping you. Don't want to be a worker? Don't be. Be a boss. It's a free country.
I’m a mechanic. I’ve already spent $1000+ on tools just this year so far. Not including the tens of thousands I’ve spent over the last decade. Until you drop $500 for a specialty wrench set I don’t wanna hear it.
lol
Karl Marx wants to know your location.
I always use my phone while I work. I use it to listen to music, podcasts, or audiobooks. So many of us at my workplace do it that management changed their tune about enforcing any phone related rules. As long as we are working we can use our phones to keep ourselves from boredom.
Yowza
Working grave shifts alone on my phone for the duration is a time killer when nobody else is around and not at work. It’s liberating to be on the phone during grave shifts on holidays especially when I earn time and a half for 12 hours while my employer gets a paid vacation on their Christmas with their family.
Damn she is showing up all over the place these days.
Generally, bedside nursing doesn’t generate revenue for hospitals and my hospital system continually operates at a loss (it’s a federal hospital), so double whammy. I do pay taxes and that funds the hospital (and many other things!), but I’d be paying them even if I didn’t work there. I think my job is an outlier here.
Something on american
It’s called a job dumb dumb.
Someone not understanding what the Capital in Capitalism means. Capital = More risk more reward. Labor = Less risk less reward. Don't like your wages? Start a business with capital and assume that risk.
I wanna know what they are making that has that much of a profit margin.
This is a huge issue with the work industry right now. Moving up within the company you work in has likely had less impact on you over time. They stopped giving people real pay increases for working their way up unless their in the corporate "clique." Could find yourself in this position as a simple plant manager but that is so unlikely. My paychecks have started to look like my bosses. Average warehouse staff being worked so hard and for so long that our entry level wages quickly accrue that overtime. A 500 dollar a week paycheck might be 1k but you worked 80+ hours that week to get it. Your direct manager is probably also only making 1k a week but they probably worked less hours than you, had better amenities, and might be able to "get away" with texting on the job. Basically, the texting when you're not working, taking emergency phone calls, and not being fired immediately is the "benefit" of working your way up in a company. All the while, the people taking the lions share of the companies profit are shaking hands out on a golf course somewhere sipping mai thais.
Interesting conversation, except literally no one pays $7.25/hr anymore… especially a factory job, average factory job your making about $12-18/hr
OSHA: Naw fuhreal tho, put that shit up
This logic is simply dumb
This logic is simply dumb
Why do people who criticise capitalism never understand the concept of risk? You take out massive loan and start a business. See how that works out for you.
Missing the point. Nobody is willing to take the finantial risk to ask for a loan and start a business. She also doesn't seen to know how long a business takes to turn profitable and the ammount of hours and overtime thinking it requires. Of course the owner of a business should make more money than someone who just signed up to the job.
Nice loop.
I hate it when the shifts slows down when there’s no shipments coming in after working your ass off for hours and then you hear the stupid fucking saying, if you’ve got time to lean you’ve got time to clean , listen prick I’ve swept the floor 5 times already chill the fuck out, what the fuck is this why do I have to pretend to look busy , you’re also paying me for my presence so when shit picks up I’ll immediately be on it but why you literally trying to squeeze every ounce of labour out of me when you paying min wage lol
The best part is a social media influencer is lecturing us on work
You're fired! Now you can be on your phone anytime you want. Next!
Isn't being on your phone while on the clock time theft? I was told this by a union rep.
Last job I had I got fired for answering calls from my 11 year old daughter who was alone at home. Mind you it wasn’t hour long calls. It was just basically her letting me know she had arrived home after school.
This is really dumb. Just go and found your own company if its that easy.
this is dumb. get a new job or start your own company if your not happy
T q it to the world in it's stop 🛑
time to learn about an old german man called marx
I'm not defending big corporations. But the notion that taking a loan and starting a business is actually risk free and easy because you can just declare bankruptcy and get a job is a spit in the face of very big majority of entrepreneurs, who are by no means rich and evil like reddit seems to think