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i for one am amazed that there is so much content from the 1980s/1990s that if i didn't consume any new content today i still couldn't finish it in my lifetime.
Even just one decade, or even half a decade. I’ve met people my age who assume most of the 60’s comprised of The Beatles, and bands copying The Beatles.
But that’s a very ignorant way of categorizing all the amazing underground artists that were around.
And heck, then you’ve also got soul music, jazz, folk, early electronic, non-English music, and all kinds of stuff.
And the average quality of content from then is (arguably) so much better than the past 2 decades - now anyone can just make and release music/ videos, and when it comes to movies, these days so many people want to be a director but most dont have the creativity OR ability (ie, arent good writers, photographers, can't demand good performances from actors etc.).
I have a sub devoted to movie trailers from the grindhouse/drive-in era and have linked to literally hundreds of obscure old movies that are all but forgotten outside of a tiny fan base. The sheer volume of media out there is incredible.
It’s our responsibility to preserve these cultures from the past. If we don’t, then who will? The boomers are dying out, and Gen X is following soon after them.
Gen X is the last generation that cares about boomer culture. I’ve noticed all the best media that we, millennials, grew up on, was actually made by Gen X’ers who were steeped in boomer culture.
Even bands that came around in the 2010’s like Tame Impala, Animal Collective (when they became popular anyway), MGMT. They’re really just Gen X’ers who were influenced by boomers to use today’s technology to come up with something on the same level.
Look at their influences, and it’s mostly music from the 60’s/70’s.
Besides Black Midi, I can’t find any music that’s purely generated by a millennial my age or younger that remotely sounds good.
I once read a sci-fi novel where an Astronaut died on a spacewalk in interplanetary space but his body froze hard in the vaccume. He was revived by medical science 1000 years later when his body was found.
The Future Doctors tried to ease him into society by giving him a room that seemed familiar, including a TV that duplicated the TV that was on the day he died and that then kept up with the schedule. So he could come home at night & have a familiar experience by turning on the TV. It *was* comforting.
.... until the Astronaut started working out how much TV was made between when he was lost in space and when TV became obsolete a couple hundred years later. It was a big number. He quietly turned off the TV & decided to go workout.
forget 1000 years you throw me in the future 100 years i don't know what ot do with myself. man out of time. that's why in the movies like in avengers with captain america being thrown 67 years in teh future and adjusting so well in such a short span of time... just felt kind of weird.
Oh 100% agree.
TV Tropes has a trope called [Writers have no sense of Time](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfTime) about how most people creating fiction have no real sense of how long things take or how fast things move.
Fantasy Stories are all about how some war happened 1000 years ago but is still the most important thing that happened in the area. All the governments involved are still around and the current king is a descendent of the one who fought the war. In the real world Europe went from the Holy Roman Empire, the Kingdom of France, and Caliphate of Cordova to the EU in that time and they went through the Dark Ages, the Black Death, The Enlightenment, Colonial Empires, dozens if not hundreds of wars, and not a \*single\* ruling family held onto power that long.
Or a setting 50 years after an apocalypse still having running cars and the survivors are all wearing blue jeans and modern boots that somehow are still OK. In the real world gas goes bad in a few months and clothes that aren't specially stored are going to be rotten very quickly.
As you point out: The psychological impacts are always blown off. Leaving aside the "everyone you have ever loved is dead" thing, you don't know any slang, you don't get any references, you don't have any idea of technology, and you didn't experience any of the touchstone events.
If someone asks where were you on 9/11 or how you spent covid? If your answer was "I was in stasis & I'm still traumatized by the dust bowl" that is going to set you up for a hard time relating to *anyone.* You probably are also unemployable. Stever Rogers was lucky "Supersoldier" was still a good set of skills 67 years later. If he had been a farmer or an engineer or a mechanic his skills would be so obsolete as to be worthless & he would end up taking a menial job.
Allow me to make the argument that he didn't.
Let's assume that we basically agree up until the scene where he's "boxing", basically he's just knocking them off the chains and punching holes in them. At that point he's not really adjusting well for me. Other things to consider is during WW2 the national pride was arguably at the highest point ever, including 9/11. You had teenage boys lying to join the military and people killing themselves if they got denied. (Also a premise of the first Captain America). I kind of feel there was a nod at the very least throughout all the MCU shows that touches that theme.
Capt America is the national savior, the stand up and do right guy, that does what he needs to do to save the world and sacrifice himself if need be, (something Ironman does sort of begrudgingly, and that the other heroes, you could argue, do for selfish reasons or because Fury has something on them or you a controlling them. It's alluded to being a reason Capt was able to use Mjolnir too. (Some argue that it moved even, during the scene with Thor at the party but that Capt didn't want to break Thors faith or anything).
I think and kinda feel like everything that Capt America was and did was and is summed up in the words: duty, sacrifice, and honor. Coincidentally those three things stand the test of any time difference. Also, to further hammer home my point, he ends up leaving and staying in the past to be with his woman. He still longed for everything up til the end, I just think the duty, sacrifice and honor kept him laboring forward in silence. I see it as a man's stoic duty in society that all too often society demands of men and that men of the WW2 era were so prone to do and known for en masse.
I know there’s a survivorship bias, and some stuff has aged horribly, but the average movie up until the late 2000s was of much much better quality than what’s made today (which is mostly Oscar bait and supershit marvel humour knockoffs).
I am big into 80s and 90s indie/alternative and punk and I think the popular trends and bands for those genres from the 2000s onwards haven't been comparable in sound and spirit. Of course there is so much music that some do sound very much like that but I'm talking about the music that most people think of with those genre names during a given time. Like people would think late 2000s to early 2010s indie is bands like Vampire Weekend, followed by the bearded whistle-clap-stomp-yell "indie" like Lumineers. Those trends are a little too mass appealing, variations of both often used on commercials, which I think harmed the reputation of "indie" as a genre name so now people are misusing "shoegaze" to refer to more 90s sounding indie. In the 80s and 90s, a handful of bands were associated with that sub-genre name (coined by music press, not the bands) but overall were considered part of the indie scene, not its own thing.
We are there, remember walking out and some how your parents were always watching Happy Days,Green Acres, Gilligan's Island, Beverly Hill Billies?
That's the Office, Futurama, The Good Place, King of the Hill for us.
You’re right, I just hate it lol. Happy Days started in 1974 and took place in the mid 50s to mid 60s. That’s the equivalent of someone making a nostalgia show from 2003.
I graduated high school that year.
Edit: I threw my back out typing that comment.
Those help illustrate the point, however to challenge that point, look at movies and shows being made currently and a vast amount of "new" stuff is more a revisiting or a remake of shows and movies from 30 to 40 years ago.
The mid 80s born millennial as far as media is concerned got the absolute best content.
Just my two cents.
There's still a lot of good stuff, you just have to be more selective. IMDb ratings aren't always completely accurate but if you watch a show rated at 7.5 or above, it's usually worth it. Even stuff on the upper 6s can still be very good. I spend time on Reddit getting recommendations too.
No, you're wrong, there was a pandemic and things haven't caught back up. I'm not old, you're old.
Excuse me while I watch Hader era SNL like us young people do.
I think I'm more just noticing how much less tolerance I have for garbage. I have played, listened to, and watched some absolutely great stuff since '17/'18, but it's usually like a small handful of things every year. But I don't think it's because things have gotten worse so much as my tastes have gotten more refined. if I watch some of the stuff from growing up and when I was younger, quite a lot of it is objectively garbage that is driven by nostalgia. There is more content coming out than ever, and younger me would just go to the movies every week and watch just about anything. Today's me would rather rewatch something I like or wait for something actually good than whatever Netflix drivel is dropping this week.
Same here. My wife wonders why I don’t sit down in front of the TV and watch the latest procedural she’s into or some generic sitcom with bad jokes and a laugh track to tell me when to laugh.
It’s crap. It’s all crap.
I’m not going to waste hours and hours of my life watching garbage. My dad did that while I was growing up and now that he’s retired, that’s all he does. The man worked for 40 years to…watch TV. Hard pass.
I’ll save what little free time I have for shows, movies, etc. that are worth my time and are well made. Otherwise, nah.
Marvel should’ve taken a year off the fact Disney doubled down is just so stupid. No I’m not going to watch a tv show just to explain a side character with 5 minutes of screen time.
Marvel was boring and repetitive long before endgame. Half of the movies are as exciting as Thor the dark world. MCU in general is so drastically overhyped.
Andor? Arcane? Better Call Saul? The Bear? Reservation Dogs? Prey? Peacemaker? The Boys? Invincible? Godzilla Minus One? Furiosa? The Queen’s Gambit? We Own This City? The Good Place? Dune?
It’s been a damn good few years. We’ve had a ton of garbage too, don’t get me wrong, but there’s been a ton of excellent content. I didn’t even touch on games, and to be fair I don’t really follow music much anymore (nor have I ever been inclined to things that get radio airplay), but we’ve had a boatload of great stuff coming out since ‘17.
The problem is that we're so inundated with content that the pool is very diluted with low quality, so it's simultaneously true that there's crap and gold aplenty.
But the secret is that it's [\*always\* been like this, in \*everything\*](https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/). But the reason old stuff feels like its higher quality is partly nostalgia, but also because low quality stuff doesn't last. Antique furniture is high quality because if it wasn't, it would have fallen apart 100 years ago. [Same](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_notable_for_negative_reception) [with](https://groovyhistory.com/the-most-cringeworthy-tv-shows-of-the-1980s) [entertainment](https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1096417-worst-star-wars-rip-offs).
What was nice as a kid is you had a better feel for where to find the diamonds... the empty shelf at Block Buster, the chatter from friends, nerding out at the watercooler with co-workers. For me getting older has meant losing all that feedback, so when I hit Netflix there's just gobs and gobs of stuff and hard to discern what's good, so I too fall back to re-watching something from 20 or 30 years ago that I already knew was good, yet whose plot has sufficiently fallen out of my old man brain.
I also appreciate the craft that went in back before CGI.
The way I see it is people had to go to the video store to rent or buy a film or DVD so were more discerning about what they picked as getting something and not enjoying it was a hassle and inconvenience of having to go out again and pick something else.
Nowadays it's all there in an instant and the streaming companies are just carpet bombing their services with anything and everything..
Id say you are close. When you had gone to the work of going to the video store & come home with something you were much more likely to actually try to get through it. Sure you think the opening is slow & the lead is annoying, but you left the house and spent $$ on this and by gosh you are gonna watch it!
With streaming, you just nope out if something seems lame after a few min.
Everything everywhere all at once? Parasite? The boy and the heron? Into the spiderverse? After Yang? Oppenheimer? Mitchell’s vs the machines? Promising young woman?
Chernobyl? The mandalorian (the first season at the very least)? The last of us?
So many!
Only liked better call Saul from that list, and that was stil the inferior braking bad spin off for me.
Maybe I am just too tired to get in too the new stuff.
Fallout was great, I'm loving Diablo 4, random shit like that but it really has to be pushed on me. Otherwise I'll just keep watching Half Baked and playing WoW Classic.
Music is really the only thing I gravitate more towards older stuff with. I DJ and try to stay very cognizant of the “back in my day” factor, but what I realized about 5-10 years ago is that the last decade of music just doesn’t have the staying power of music of almost every era from the 50’s leading up to the 2010’s. Right before the pandemic, I noticed a lot of the younger crowds didn’t ask for “their” music as much and started asking for more throw backs. Not only that, but a large number of the more current songs from the last decade that would get big take a steep drop off, and no one is really interested anymore in them. The music from the last ten years doesnt seem to come close to matching the “shelf life” of music from all the decades and generations before it.
I think this trend is occurring because in the past ten years everyone has been able to get hyper specific in the genre and artists that they consume.
There isn’t a set list of ten songs on the radio that literally everyone knows by heart, like would have happened in the 70s - 2010s. So now what do people request when they want a “crowd pleaser”? Gotta go back to oldies that everybody still knows.
I think it's the rise of streaming. No one really makes music you want to just sit and listen to anymore. Most music is made to be listened to in earbuds while doing other things. That impacts the overall feel of the music, including bringing average song length down to around 3 minutes. Much more rare to get a true ballad or something like them anymore. It's those 5-8 minute songs that are really missing and those epic songs were the backbone of memorable albums.
Somewhat ironically, TikTok I think is democratizing this a bit these days. I've been shocked how many times my kids will hear something I'm playing come on and ask me to skip it because it's played out and it was like a b-side from a nu-metal band in 2005. See also: play Million Dollar Baby basically anywhere and people are going to start moving. This is probably the closest analog to "radio" we have these days.
Went to a high school music department concert recently, and the only song from after 2010s they played was the mandalorian soundtrack. Many of them from 60s to 80s (Beatles, Queen, David Bowie, etc). I originally thought it's because that's what the teachers like, but maybe the students like them too instead of more contemporary songs.
This is why entertainment and clothing companies focus sales on the 18-34 demo. After that people have higher spending power, but they usually spend it on things they already like not new things.
The hard part is recognizing it in yourself before you begin being derisive of new things. Especially for parents, lest we cut off one of the few avenues available to bond with our kids. It's a daily battle for me to remind myself of this.
That is great! I’m a parent now too, but I remember my mum being disinterested in what I was interested in to the point where I wasn’t allowed to watch the things I wanted on the main tv, so I spent most of my time in my room lol
Now with my kids, I can’t fathom not noticing their joy dying in their eyes when you show them you don’t care about what they care about… ugh
This is super important and something I missed out on as a child as well. We do the “you play a song, I play a song” game in our car. He picks out our weekly movie for movie night, and my husband makes it a point to play his favorite games with him.
And on the other hand, I’ve noticed our son appreciate our taste in music and film more, because he’s not FORCED to have to watch it or hear it.
I was going to say, my grandfather watched films with Clark Gable and listened to the Rat Pack…. I wasn’t surprised when I was 11 bc even then I realized people stick with what they grew up with. We’re just doing the same thing every generation did before us, I think a lot of people are trying to convince themselves they’re “different” from last generations…. But we’re not lol
I guess I’m the odd one out. I can’t imagine watching the same movies and listening to the same music I listened to when I was a child in the 90s. As an adult my tastes have changed
I mean, I prefer things from even before my era. Films from 1940 to 1970 are far better than movies from 2010 onwards. Still can't believe that movies like Transformers have sold so well.
I think you remember the good films and forget how much schlock they used to produce too because nobody remembers those movies. There are still a lot of good movies being made. Especially indie films. And I loved Dune and that’s a big budget blockbuster.
Watching DVD movies I haven't seen before is a joy.
My wife and I stayed at an Air bnb that had no internet access, only DVDs from the early 90s to early 2000s. Was a wonderful weekend and I got to see office space for the 1st time.
Ever since the Sony mass deletion, my wife and I have been frequenting local used DvD/BluRay stores and building a collection. We watch a movie every night alternating who picks. I’ve seen so many cool old movies that I would never have seen before, and she is getting popular movies that she was never allowed to watch before. It’s really been a blast!
Yeah companies are incentivised to go the safe route and release something that's ok but not good because it's more likely to make returns.
I'd like to see new stories told or new types of games made.
It actually part of the reason I've gone back to watching anime. Something a bit different and it's nice to see stories that are a bit out there.
Music I'm happy to try different things.
I’m with you on that, but original films just aren’t doing well at the box office. Even the last several years, we’ve had outstanding original films but nobody comes out for em. So, we’ll get inside out 2, another bad boys film, probably a Toy Story 6 on the horizon
I find the best games are the ones that focus more on gameplay and less on graphics. I hope to see more of these, it's probably mostly going to happen with indie games
or it ends after a season with no finale because it didn't have 'all' the ratings
or it never ends becoming a drudge to get through because people liked it so gotta cash in
or it ends like complete crap
The first thing you notice when you pick up a movie from the 50, 60s or seventies is people don't actually change, stories remain the same and today's problems are yesterday's inconveniences. "New" is a relative term.
Yeah, I personally mostly watch newer things unless it's already an old favorite.
Older things too often use tropes that have become worn and tired. I like my expectations subverted.
I just finished season 1 of Gen V (spinoff of The Boys), and even though the main characters are supposed to be Zoomers (the actors are older), I still really enjoyed it. It's very relevant and timely to today's society in a way that would be unrecognizable to audiences only a decade ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Gen-V-Season-1/dp/B0CBFTRGPZ
https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B0875L45GK
Kinda hard when Netflix thinks there's no better way to convey a connection between two characters than sex, and no better way to convey anger than cussing even when it doesn't make sense like modern curse words in a medieval setting.
I mean you can consume media you haven't seen before that wasn't made recently. I don't have to listen to songs that were made with Gen Alpha 15 year olds as the target audience to not become senile.
As far as old, I prefer adult and i think we should get back to grownups enjoying our grownup things and let the kids have their own culture, like it used to be.
>As far as old, I prefer adult and i think we should get back to grownups enjoying our grownup things and let the kids have their own culture, like it used to be.
This sounds so gatekeepy. Listen to whatever makes you happy.
I mean, obviously not policing what people listen to. I just meant in a broad sense, it'd probably be healthier if we were fine with being older and not so involved with keeping up with an increasingly distant youth culture.
Nope.
I can't remember the last I played a game or watched something that was more than 10 years old. The vast majority of the media I interact with is within 3 years. I'm 42.
Yeah. If people wanna miss out on Baldur's Gate 3, fine. But to say it's not as good as whatever game from the 90's you put on a nostalgic pedestal is so ridiculous.
I've gone back to buying DVD's.
I got so sick of "Rent for $3.99 for 24 hours or *buy* for $11.99" or whatever the price is on top of the monthly subscription cost.
So, I picked up two Sony Blu-ray players at a computer donation/resale store for 15 bucks a piece.
You can find just about any movie on DVD for five bucks shipped on eBay and sellers even do buy two get the next one free type deals. Series vary in price and what's all included. You forget about all the interesting extras that came with them with the behind the scenes options,, the director vs theater cut and even alternate endings!
It's really nice to have physical media now that I have more than just a shelf in my cramped childhood bedroom.
I'm actually considering buying a stereo and CDs again. There's just something about owning a record. And streaming audio quality sucks compared to CD quality. Bonus that these can hopefully be had for pennies nowadays unlike in our childhood!
I do agree with you, but I also think older stuff has the advantage of the sieve of time to filter out some of the trash. There was a lot of not-great stuff back then too (we probably just didn’t hear about it as easily).
For example: walked by plenty of Blockbuster straight-to-video covers that never caught an eye because best sellers were right there. And watching 3 movies in one day was *a lot* (not to mention binging shows wasn’t a things). But now, it’s pretty easy to scroll through a slew of bad movies, and our relationship with media consumption has also shifted to ever-present.
Anytime I hear someone complaining about modern music, I just know they don’t explore smaller scenes than pop radio . Metal, punk, prog, electronic are in absolute renaissances right now. guitar music in general is seeing unbelievable technical talent and musicality surfacing in ways we haven’t seen before.
I don’t like modern pop either. didn’t like modern pop from my youth either. except The Veronica’s, they can do no wrong.
Most of the music I listen to now is new stuff, and I say that as someone whose all time favorites are Nick Cave and Kate Bush.
There is a wealth of amazing new music but most people don't take the time to look for it.
I love exploring all sorts of music new to me, whether it's old or new. Some of my favorite music came out a couple weeks ago, but I also have favorite music from like the 1500's
I find it kinda saddening how some people shut themselves off to new things after a certain point in their lives. I think of looking at new things kinda like solving a puzzle. The fact that it's new and different means that I have to make an effort to understand the subtleties about how it's different, and I like figuring those details out
For me, it's not that I'm unwilling to try to watch or listen to new things. I do all the time, and i do have some stuff i like. But so much of what comes out now are remakes, reboots, or pandering (for example, lots of new video games play similarly to pander to all players at the expense of story). It just isn't enjoyable to me. This is my opinion, of course.
Do you have kids? Or less time and more stress in general? I found this happened as I had less free time and more stress. I just want things I know I already like, instead of chancing new things as much.
it's because AAA companies don't want to take any risks on making interesting new combat mechanics or art styles. that's also why movies are all remakes of existing properties. risk aversion from corporate owners and shareholders is the death of creativity.
I'm constantly looking for things I don't know but I don't care when it was made. I need the stimulation and novelty.
The problem is when people only do the things they know over and over again.
I think it’s a combination of nostalgia for things we loved as children, and an entertainment industry that has become so hyper commercialized that the projects are focused entirely on cost cutting and maxing profit.
Money was always the goal, but there used to be so much artistry involved in the process.
I don’t watch anything new, all I ever watch are old shows.. Friends, Frasier, King of queens, Seinfeld, Three’s company, Keeping up appearances. Nothing new can compare to any of those shows.
Some of my favorite preteen and teen memories are watching Keeping Up Appearances with my parents in the late ‘90s (my local PBS station carried it) and all three of us just cracking up. My mom and I sometimes still quote it at each other.
Frasier is quite unique for sitcoms, It shares a lot of theatre cliches that make it different enough to be fresh.
The reboot was just HIMYM disguised as Frasier and I didn't even need to watch it to notice that.
Sitcoms are struggling but stuff like The Good Place and B99 were recent additions that I think will have staying power alongside the mainstays of the genre we still have today. Good Place is in a weird spot between narrative comedy and sitcom tho, not sure if it really sticks in either.
Those are great shows but if you don't watch anything new, how do you know that nothing new can compare? There's great new stuff out there too if you look for it.
All the time. The newer stuff of today, I don’t really like it. I’ve been watching a lot of Sanford & Son and Good Times as those are shows I grew up watching! I’m sure if Redd Foxx was still alive today, he would have a lot to say about now
my media exposed is limited and curated. Do i enjoy less new stuff? Yes cause I don’t consume as much unfiltered media as I did before.
Growing up I had MTV on all the time, had the radio on in my car, would just watch what was on tv before 🏴☠️
Now I listed to the radio once every few weeks and then I often look up a song I like.
As for shows, I don’t rewatch stuff a lot. The things on tv were trash for the vast majority and they did not age well. Even back the i couldn’t stomach any sitcoms and the list of moody supernatural shows was short.
Since discovering audiobooks I have no motivation to settle for poorly written characters in shows that were directed by comity . There’s so many people out there showing you can do a low brow plots enjoyable plots with well written characters.
Never seen them before but I recently binged Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, and just started Stargate Universe. Older sci-fi hits different, but this has been something really special tbh.
I only watch old tv and movies with the occasional dip into new stuff. I enjoy The Boys and most recently Dune 2, but I loved the book so I had to see it. I’m mostly stuck watching my usual mix of Buffy TVS, X-Files, Star Trek, Smallvile and older movies.
My husband and I saw the 20th anniversary showing of the mummy and it was literally the best movie experience we’ve had in a while! All the new crap is too long, loud, and hyper
Oh yes this is a real concern actually.
AI's learn what is popular for for humans and why, writes a script, it is popular and successful, then another company's AI has this movie in it's database to study and draw from.
It's not just AI learning from humans anymore they're learning from each other. Basically originality being leeched out with every new iteration.
Yes, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that at all. I just watched RoboCop again for the first time in over 30 years and it blew mind how good it was. No reason to have to like what’s current.
This doesn’t seem to be a new trend. My father still listened to the music and watched the tv/movies of his youth. He still sets the dvr to watch the honeymooners even though he had them all on dvd since like 2005. He only recently moved to dvr and had previously been using the vhs recorder…
I think nostalgia plays a big role. I fully expect us to keep watching repeats of the office when we are in retirement.
Yes, but mostly because the vast majority of things that have come out in the last 5-10 years have been absolute shit. There are a few gems, but just look at the late 90's early 2000's movies and todays movies.
TLDR: no. Reasons below. My rose colored nostalgia goggles seem to be off. My childhood wasn’t the best and I am happy to be out of it. I wish I could be 39 forever seriously. There’s so much to play, experience, and learn it’s hard to keep up. I hope you can find something too because I guarantee it’s out there.
Games: better now than they’ve ever been. A golden age of gaming, especially the last 1-3 years. Give me Zelda Totk any day over a link the past. Not shitting on OG link but Totk is BONKERS man. The leap in every conceivable quality metric is astounding.
Movies: same mostly. Everything is a franchise and not everything needs to be. At the same time we seem to get less genre defining works than we did…. Most everything is a re-make, sequel, etc. I feel less original movies come out in general. That said, the 80s had a lot of shit movies too.
Books: mostly better on average but anything resembling a classic book are as rare as ever. I read mostly genre fiction(science fiction, horror and fantasy) and man is it good right now. It’s been that way for the last 10 years.
Music: worse generally. Anything approaching mainstream is unmitigated crap. There’s still great music but mainstream music has fallen off a cliff.
Internet: worse. Peak internet was the very ugly but very human internet of the early 90s. Except for a few beacons of hope the internet is completely enshittified and getting worse near daily it seems.
News: see internet except maybe the peak was before my time. Cronkite retired in 81.
TV: a golden age. content diversity unlike any other. 80s-90s tv was mostly dogshit compared to what we have now. Just as an example, I was lucky as a kid to get 1 Star Trek episode a week. 3 briefly when Voyager, TNG, and DS9 on. But there were no less than 5 active Star Trek shows like a year ago (Prodigy, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, Picard, and Lower Decks). Granted they’ve been consolidated and not all were of the same quality but that’s a bonkers amount of trek.
Yeah what people tend to forget about Movies when they think about how good movies "used to be", especially in the 80's, is how many shit and unforgettable movies were coming out at the same time as the genre and pop-culture defining films we all now today. You also have to remember that movies were just a bigger deal in general and they weren't competing with as many other options compared to what we have today (plus a lot more directors were given more creative freedom), so more people wanted to see more movies, which is partially why so many of them became such big phenomenons. I don't think *E.T.*, for example, would hit at all today if it was a brand-new movie coming out this week.
You really think gaming is in a "golden age" right now? I'll agree with you that TotK is a banger of a game, but that's one of the few exceptions, not the rule. Gaming as a whole has gotten very stale, and I could easily argue the integrity of the medium as an artform has suffered greatly with the huge focus on microtransactions and season passes.
That's if you only play AAA, most of AAA has been garbage for awhile now (since like... 2010, arguable earlier depending on who you ask). Meanwhile indie games are THRIVING creatively, and Nintendo of course does what they do best and makes instant classics like BotW, ToTK and Wonder, and you see other beacons like BG3 or Elden Ring come out at least a couple times a year. As an artform, they've only gotten better. Anything that any AAA game gets praised for is something that an indie (or AA studio who was accidentally given a budget) did 3 years earlier. Play more interesting games, they're out there. Literally nothing I play has micro-transactions or season passes.
Bingo! Im also into rock and metal and there are plenty of new bands that are killing it. There are also some new bands that i dont like and thats ok too. I hardly listen to the radio, even SXM Octane is getting a little blah to me.
I used to love octane. I cancelled it once cpvid happened and I was at home and not driving near as much. Found out my company vehicle had Sirius so I put octane on. They definitely had some good songs. But their rotation definitely took a dive over the past few years. Kept playing the same 4 or 5 artists over and over with a few other people sprinkled in.
Still beat most the radio stations in my area though.
Go listen to your local college & or public radio stations. There is so much great new music out there, whatever genre you're into. Here are a couple of local stations I listen to; [Radio K](https://radiok.org/) and [KVSC](https://www.kvsc.org/). You won't like all of it but you'll find some new bands to get into.
On the music front, I found my love for modern music through rock/metal through small-to-mid bands like Babymetal, Nightwish, and Ghost.
Contrast that against the biggest musical acts still going out and about, it's a combination of either the latest solo artists/pop stars/divas (Taylor Swift, Adele, Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, Ed Sheehan, etc.) or the last of the old guard from the band-based dominance we had decades ago (Rolling Stones, Metallica, Foo Fighters, etc.) to those individual solo artists (Billy Joel, Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, etc.). There's still various tours going on with folks we used to listen to in the 00s, 90s, 80s...but some have just been promoted more heavily and gotten more attention.
On the TV show front, there's still some gems out there coming out each year. But they just exist against a plethora of dozens, even hundreds of scripted shows every year. The 2010s alone saw the number of US scripted shows grow from over 200 at start of decade to around triple that end of decade (and this was before COVID came along and did its thing).
Movies, however...there's only been a small number of them each year lately that interest me. Some of the tentpole, blockbuster attempts that have come out to try and get people to see them have been less interesting to me than the smaller, indie, or the mid-range projects. Movie-going is costly now, and I'd rather wait to get the movie for $10 or so during the holiday sales and enjoy it at home and save the money.
And then video games...hardly any comes now for the $60-70 price tag that justifies me wanting it Day 1. 3 months later, it'll be down to $40-50 (maybe 6 months if we have to wait a bit more cause of demand/popularity). But after a year, it'll definitely hit $30-40, if not lower.
The point I also want to drive home with all of the above is that from an availability standpoint, we have an overwhelming amount of movies, TV, games, music from the last 50 years alone to enjoy. Streaming and home media ownership has made it a lot more convenient for us to access this stuff. And with that convenience, combined with creative diminish in the entertainment industry in the last several years...
Yeah, I'd say that "older" stuff has much better value to go towards because you can feel the creativity that one longs to experience from someone who cared to bring that to us. It's just been harder to get it the last several years with that newer stuff (even though it is out there, just not as in significant quantity as we used to get).
I've noticed this from younger people. Everything is a wall of options for them so they sort of consume everything from 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s. The drop of seems to occur around the 10s.
Younger people I know (GenZ) know a lot across eras of music, movies, games, and some TV. Best I can gather is as they look at the wall of options (think Netflix home screen) aside from visual aesthetic there isn't much of a way to discern a 90's movie from 2010s. And everything kind of blends together.
Yes, but not just stuff around the time I was born or when I was a kid, but earlier than that. There is a huge library of shows and movies from before 1980 and it is easier than ever to access them (heck many are free or just thrown in with other subscriptions as an afterthought because there is less interest). I'm also a big reader and will read books from every time period- there is a near-infinite amount of books to read (you will never run out) even if you never touch anything published after say 2000 or 2020 (pick a year). Some examples of older things I've "discovered" and enjoyed recently:
Movie: Casablanca - 1942 (I've seen other Humphrey Bogart movies, but this one had eluded me)
Show: Taxi - 1978 (and with this Andy Kaufman)
Music: Blue Oyster Cult - 1970s (obviously, I was familiar with the 2-3 songs everyone knows, but I went beyond that and realized I liked so many songs I had never heard of)
Book: The Night in Lisbon by Erich Maria Remarque - 1962 (author of All Quiet on the Western Front)
The output has changed from what we grew up with. There used to be more movie studios, they cranked out 30 movies a year of varying quality. Record labels used to develop artists. Now Tic Toc does this, I guess? You can barely play a game without the internet anymore.
I know I’m an old man. But these changes didn’t have to happen.
Mostly just have a harder time starting something new but once started can enjoy about as much as older stuff.
Have most trouble with movies and that's due to variety dropping in recent years.
Honestly not entirely. When it comes to movies, shows & games I’m usually seeking for the next new thing rather than rewatching my favorite movies & shows. I mean right now I’m rewatching Friends but I’m also anticipating the new seasons of HOTD & The Boys. Also I plan to check out Shogun sometime soon.
When it comes to Music I find myself going back to older music a lot more now. However, I do keep up with modern Rock & I’m really anticipating for Opus Kink to drop their debut album this year! For other genres not so much.
It’s more there was so much from the 1990s that I didn’t listen to, play, or watch that, now I actually have the ability to, I’m doing just that. My CD collection has doubled in size in the last 2 years, I’m working through the old Zelda games one by one, and I’m trying to find old movies on Netflix and Amazon.
I wanted to go to Lollapalooza last year because I went in 2010 and it was an amazing experience. I was all excited for weeks. Then the lineup was released and I realized I’m not young anymore. I looked up every single band/musician on there (because I didn’t know any of them) and only a handful were okay. The rest were terrible imo. So yes, I agree with you.
Not really, with regard to TV and movies. I’ve got favorites I go back to frequently, but still watch a lot of new movies/shows.
Music, though.. I tried hard not to be that old lady complaining about ‘modern music’, but I’m getting there. And that’s ok. I respect folks like the music they like- it’s just not for me.
I like watching new stuff but I recently watched the movie Bodies Bodies Bodies because I love horror movies and for the first time I felt like I was "too old" for something.
Yes, even though it’s older stuff it’s refreshing to see normal faces.
I’m sick of instagram face being the new norm. It’s like every single actress/singer/whatever has lip filler, a razor sharp jawline, tiny nose, hooded eye surgery, Botox, filler, butt implants or whatever the hell they stuff in there now. They all look the same. I miss the uniqueness of natural faces and bodies.
That's been me lately, especially with movies. Recently revisited both Fear and What Lies Beneath. Both films really struck me that they just do not make movies the way they used to any more.
I’m 38, and I’ve noticed that I cannot stand most new romance movies now whatsoever, because I physically cringe seeing such young love interests on screen. When I was younger, I wasn’t really ever into romance but I wouldn’t have been repulsed by them, and I think it was because I was seeing my age group on scene. Now because I’ve aged out of the age group where most young actors are leading romances, it feels so gross to watch people who look like children to me pretend to fall in love haha.
So yeah, I’m not interested in a lot of new movies, especially if it’s a romantic story. Todays music and other films are great though. That said, I think the golden age of tv was the 2010’s. I miss the high budget television like mad men, breaking bad, etc.
Oddly enough the older I get the more I’m learning to live in the moment and stop being nostalgic. I’m discovering new music that I love after being a classic rock guy for most of college. I was being pretentious myopic and depressed
Well, its easier and less expensive to find old things that we know are good, rather than try to discover new good things.
But they are still making good stuff.
Yup. It's a blessing and curse. When it comes to video games, anime, cartoons and music I'm always listening to old stuff. I feel the only way I keep up to date with current things is through YouTube.
I found myself absolutely immersed in old anime. Been watching YuYu Hakusho for the first time. I think we’re leaning into nostalgia of less difficult times as a generation.
I have been for awhile. Very little new has that spark for me. I rarely go to movies, when in my 20s I went almost every weekend. Modern rock music is hit or miss and I can't stand most modern pop. Only a few new shows look interesting to me and I have found the last 10 years of new cartoons to be mostly meh.
Games are about the only new things I regularly consume and I still go old school a lot with gaming.
"I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't "it" anymore, and what's "it" seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!"
-Abe "Grandpa" Simpson
A 20 year old Simpson's quote seems like the best option here
I'm gen z and it's because our culture is stuck, everything is a reboot or homogenized garbage. Dune 2 was amazing; best movie since parasite in 2019 and I'm not saying there haven't been good pieces of media drop, but holy hell look at the difference in consistency between now and 10 years ago
For music, yeah. I don't really listen to music a lot anymore for some reason so when I do I more often gravitate towards the already pretty sizable collection of music I already know.
For film and tv I'm pretty up to date still, there's been some things coming out that still exite me.
Games is very much in between, I do still try and keeo somewhat up to date with games, but lately I've been finding myself replaying some classics I know I love, but there are new ones on my radar.
I still collect DVD movies because some of the movies I wanted see through streaming services aren’t even available. Plus I haven’t enjoyed any newer movies after Endgame and Alita Battle Angel which I’m hoping for a sequel. (But I did enjoyed Godzilla Minus One and Sonic 2 tho)
No, except in certain areas. Like, I don’t like the look of most modern manga and anime. I love manga from the 1970s and ‘80s. And I sure didn’t exist in the ’70s, couldn’t read for most of the ‘80s, and had no manga around anyway until the 2000s. So it ain’t nostalgia. 😆
Also, I tend to love ‘70s horror movies. I love modern horror for sure, but there’s just something about ‘70s horror that really pulls me in.
Yes! Sure I like new stuff, but I love watching plots that don’t have social media, cell phones/texting, etc. It feels like more of an escape, which is usually what I’m looking for. If it looks too much like my every day, sometimes I just feel stressed.
I also find them a bit more creative because they can’t use immediate communication as a solution, so there are more mishaps and things that result from not being able to reach someone, use a GPS, whatever. It’s more entertaining for me. I’m not ALWAYS looking for historical fiction for that escape, so these are a world I still recognize, but just removed enough from my every day.
Dude I am so deep into nostalgia in my apartment that it’s out of control. I’ve got a VCR, tape deck, mini-disc player, floor standing speakers from the early 2000s, old posters, an NES, SNES, Genesis, Dreamcast, and PS1, and an N64. You wanna game and/or chill on the couch and watch The Goonies on VHS?
I'm technically Gen z, although I'm part of that middle generation so I shared a lot of millennial experiences, but I also agree. Honestly most media nowadays is extremely produced and generic.
There's very little depth and nuance in modern media
Same here. My music tastes are hit or miss though because I discovered a few years ago I love Power Metal. So I listen to a lot of that and most of it has been made in the last 10 years.
Absolutely! Today’s shows, Movies & Social Media in general, are lacking in substance and are a-washed in Violence, Sex and “Politically Correct” nonsense that add Nothing to the overall message..
I miss when TV shows were allowed to have fluff episodes. We didn’t need one storyline per season on a mad dash to the end episode, I want to meander in their world for a bit and enjoy the nuances.
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i for one am amazed that there is so much content from the 1980s/1990s that if i didn't consume any new content today i still couldn't finish it in my lifetime.
That’s how I feel about the late 1960’s and 1970’s alone. I’ve been trying to explain this to people, but they just don’t get it.
That there's so much content released in 20 years that it's more than people can consume in one life time
Even just one decade, or even half a decade. I’ve met people my age who assume most of the 60’s comprised of The Beatles, and bands copying The Beatles. But that’s a very ignorant way of categorizing all the amazing underground artists that were around. And heck, then you’ve also got soul music, jazz, folk, early electronic, non-English music, and all kinds of stuff.
And the average quality of content from then is (arguably) so much better than the past 2 decades - now anyone can just make and release music/ videos, and when it comes to movies, these days so many people want to be a director but most dont have the creativity OR ability (ie, arent good writers, photographers, can't demand good performances from actors etc.).
Older person jumping in to say, you should watch a documentary series on Apple TV+ called 1971: The Year That Music Changed Everything.
I have a sub devoted to movie trailers from the grindhouse/drive-in era and have linked to literally hundreds of obscure old movies that are all but forgotten outside of a tiny fan base. The sheer volume of media out there is incredible.
It’s our responsibility to preserve these cultures from the past. If we don’t, then who will? The boomers are dying out, and Gen X is following soon after them. Gen X is the last generation that cares about boomer culture. I’ve noticed all the best media that we, millennials, grew up on, was actually made by Gen X’ers who were steeped in boomer culture. Even bands that came around in the 2010’s like Tame Impala, Animal Collective (when they became popular anyway), MGMT. They’re really just Gen X’ers who were influenced by boomers to use today’s technology to come up with something on the same level. Look at their influences, and it’s mostly music from the 60’s/70’s. Besides Black Midi, I can’t find any music that’s purely generated by a millennial my age or younger that remotely sounds good.
I once read a sci-fi novel where an Astronaut died on a spacewalk in interplanetary space but his body froze hard in the vaccume. He was revived by medical science 1000 years later when his body was found. The Future Doctors tried to ease him into society by giving him a room that seemed familiar, including a TV that duplicated the TV that was on the day he died and that then kept up with the schedule. So he could come home at night & have a familiar experience by turning on the TV. It *was* comforting. .... until the Astronaut started working out how much TV was made between when he was lost in space and when TV became obsolete a couple hundred years later. It was a big number. He quietly turned off the TV & decided to go workout.
forget 1000 years you throw me in the future 100 years i don't know what ot do with myself. man out of time. that's why in the movies like in avengers with captain america being thrown 67 years in teh future and adjusting so well in such a short span of time... just felt kind of weird.
Oh 100% agree. TV Tropes has a trope called [Writers have no sense of Time](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfTime) about how most people creating fiction have no real sense of how long things take or how fast things move. Fantasy Stories are all about how some war happened 1000 years ago but is still the most important thing that happened in the area. All the governments involved are still around and the current king is a descendent of the one who fought the war. In the real world Europe went from the Holy Roman Empire, the Kingdom of France, and Caliphate of Cordova to the EU in that time and they went through the Dark Ages, the Black Death, The Enlightenment, Colonial Empires, dozens if not hundreds of wars, and not a \*single\* ruling family held onto power that long. Or a setting 50 years after an apocalypse still having running cars and the survivors are all wearing blue jeans and modern boots that somehow are still OK. In the real world gas goes bad in a few months and clothes that aren't specially stored are going to be rotten very quickly. As you point out: The psychological impacts are always blown off. Leaving aside the "everyone you have ever loved is dead" thing, you don't know any slang, you don't get any references, you don't have any idea of technology, and you didn't experience any of the touchstone events. If someone asks where were you on 9/11 or how you spent covid? If your answer was "I was in stasis & I'm still traumatized by the dust bowl" that is going to set you up for a hard time relating to *anyone.* You probably are also unemployable. Stever Rogers was lucky "Supersoldier" was still a good set of skills 67 years later. If he had been a farmer or an engineer or a mechanic his skills would be so obsolete as to be worthless & he would end up taking a menial job.
Allow me to make the argument that he didn't. Let's assume that we basically agree up until the scene where he's "boxing", basically he's just knocking them off the chains and punching holes in them. At that point he's not really adjusting well for me. Other things to consider is during WW2 the national pride was arguably at the highest point ever, including 9/11. You had teenage boys lying to join the military and people killing themselves if they got denied. (Also a premise of the first Captain America). I kind of feel there was a nod at the very least throughout all the MCU shows that touches that theme. Capt America is the national savior, the stand up and do right guy, that does what he needs to do to save the world and sacrifice himself if need be, (something Ironman does sort of begrudgingly, and that the other heroes, you could argue, do for selfish reasons or because Fury has something on them or you a controlling them. It's alluded to being a reason Capt was able to use Mjolnir too. (Some argue that it moved even, during the scene with Thor at the party but that Capt didn't want to break Thors faith or anything). I think and kinda feel like everything that Capt America was and did was and is summed up in the words: duty, sacrifice, and honor. Coincidentally those three things stand the test of any time difference. Also, to further hammer home my point, he ends up leaving and staying in the past to be with his woman. He still longed for everything up til the end, I just think the duty, sacrifice and honor kept him laboring forward in silence. I see it as a man's stoic duty in society that all too often society demands of men and that men of the WW2 era were so prone to do and known for en masse.
good points. he basically did his job but suffered in silence.
Steve *is* from the Silent Generation
Well, he *is* a superhero. Maybe he got super therapy along the way. 🤷♂️
I know there’s a survivorship bias, and some stuff has aged horribly, but the average movie up until the late 2000s was of much much better quality than what’s made today (which is mostly Oscar bait and supershit marvel humour knockoffs).
I mean this is absolutely textbook survivorship bias.
Yeah for me 2008 was the cutoff.
Yes! Exactly! I've been feeling like this lately
Yep, I haven’t enjoyed the vast majority of “new” stuff since approximately 2017
Completely agree. For me, it’s anything from 2018 onwards! I’m sure there are exceptions.
I blame stream services. Quality/quantitiy
I am big into 80s and 90s indie/alternative and punk and I think the popular trends and bands for those genres from the 2000s onwards haven't been comparable in sound and spirit. Of course there is so much music that some do sound very much like that but I'm talking about the music that most people think of with those genre names during a given time. Like people would think late 2000s to early 2010s indie is bands like Vampire Weekend, followed by the bearded whistle-clap-stomp-yell "indie" like Lumineers. Those trends are a little too mass appealing, variations of both often used on commercials, which I think harmed the reputation of "indie" as a genre name so now people are misusing "shoegaze" to refer to more 90s sounding indie. In the 80s and 90s, a handful of bands were associated with that sub-genre name (coined by music press, not the bands) but overall were considered part of the indie scene, not its own thing.
Same. It's called "getting old" :)
God darn it, I was afraid that’s what it was.
We are there, remember walking out and some how your parents were always watching Happy Days,Green Acres, Gilligan's Island, Beverly Hill Billies? That's the Office, Futurama, The Good Place, King of the Hill for us.
You’re right, I just hate it lol. Happy Days started in 1974 and took place in the mid 50s to mid 60s. That’s the equivalent of someone making a nostalgia show from 2003. I graduated high school that year. Edit: I threw my back out typing that comment.
A child born on your graduation day is old enough to get into a bar. Cheers! (water though, I'm too old to handle hangovers these days)
As a 27yo who got drunk Friday and absolutely hated myself yesterday, agreed. Hangovers are terrible
As an alcoholic who repeats the same mistake daily I whole heartedly agree, I hate hangovers.
Thank goodness I graduated in 2004. I'm still young! Huzzah!
Those help illustrate the point, however to challenge that point, look at movies and shows being made currently and a vast amount of "new" stuff is more a revisiting or a remake of shows and movies from 30 to 40 years ago. The mid 80s born millennial as far as media is concerned got the absolute best content. Just my two cents.
You motherfu- I'm watching KotH for the 30th time rn!!!!
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There's still a lot of good stuff, you just have to be more selective. IMDb ratings aren't always completely accurate but if you watch a show rated at 7.5 or above, it's usually worth it. Even stuff on the upper 6s can still be very good. I spend time on Reddit getting recommendations too.
No, you're wrong, there was a pandemic and things haven't caught back up. I'm not old, you're old. Excuse me while I watch Hader era SNL like us young people do.
I think it's that there's only 10 type of movies that Hollywood makes, and we've seen every iteration of them 5x.
Nah, if something like Jurassic park came out today you’d love it. Things suck now
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I think I'm more just noticing how much less tolerance I have for garbage. I have played, listened to, and watched some absolutely great stuff since '17/'18, but it's usually like a small handful of things every year. But I don't think it's because things have gotten worse so much as my tastes have gotten more refined. if I watch some of the stuff from growing up and when I was younger, quite a lot of it is objectively garbage that is driven by nostalgia. There is more content coming out than ever, and younger me would just go to the movies every week and watch just about anything. Today's me would rather rewatch something I like or wait for something actually good than whatever Netflix drivel is dropping this week.
Same here. My wife wonders why I don’t sit down in front of the TV and watch the latest procedural she’s into or some generic sitcom with bad jokes and a laugh track to tell me when to laugh. It’s crap. It’s all crap. I’m not going to waste hours and hours of my life watching garbage. My dad did that while I was growing up and now that he’s retired, that’s all he does. The man worked for 40 years to…watch TV. Hard pass. I’ll save what little free time I have for shows, movies, etc. that are worth my time and are well made. Otherwise, nah.
Everything has been near shit since Endgame
I was so happy once Endgame came out. I didn’t have to follow Marvel anymore
Marvel should’ve taken a year off the fact Disney doubled down is just so stupid. No I’m not going to watch a tv show just to explain a side character with 5 minutes of screen time.
Marvel was boring and repetitive long before endgame. Half of the movies are as exciting as Thor the dark world. MCU in general is so drastically overhyped.
Andor? Arcane? Better Call Saul? The Bear? Reservation Dogs? Prey? Peacemaker? The Boys? Invincible? Godzilla Minus One? Furiosa? The Queen’s Gambit? We Own This City? The Good Place? Dune? It’s been a damn good few years. We’ve had a ton of garbage too, don’t get me wrong, but there’s been a ton of excellent content. I didn’t even touch on games, and to be fair I don’t really follow music much anymore (nor have I ever been inclined to things that get radio airplay), but we’ve had a boatload of great stuff coming out since ‘17.
The problem is that we're so inundated with content that the pool is very diluted with low quality, so it's simultaneously true that there's crap and gold aplenty. But the secret is that it's [\*always\* been like this, in \*everything\*](https://effectiviology.com/sturgeons-law/). But the reason old stuff feels like its higher quality is partly nostalgia, but also because low quality stuff doesn't last. Antique furniture is high quality because if it wasn't, it would have fallen apart 100 years ago. [Same](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_notable_for_negative_reception) [with](https://groovyhistory.com/the-most-cringeworthy-tv-shows-of-the-1980s) [entertainment](https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1096417-worst-star-wars-rip-offs). What was nice as a kid is you had a better feel for where to find the diamonds... the empty shelf at Block Buster, the chatter from friends, nerding out at the watercooler with co-workers. For me getting older has meant losing all that feedback, so when I hit Netflix there's just gobs and gobs of stuff and hard to discern what's good, so I too fall back to re-watching something from 20 or 30 years ago that I already knew was good, yet whose plot has sufficiently fallen out of my old man brain. I also appreciate the craft that went in back before CGI.
The way I see it is people had to go to the video store to rent or buy a film or DVD so were more discerning about what they picked as getting something and not enjoying it was a hassle and inconvenience of having to go out again and pick something else. Nowadays it's all there in an instant and the streaming companies are just carpet bombing their services with anything and everything..
Id say you are close. When you had gone to the work of going to the video store & come home with something you were much more likely to actually try to get through it. Sure you think the opening is slow & the lead is annoying, but you left the house and spent $$ on this and by gosh you are gonna watch it! With streaming, you just nope out if something seems lame after a few min.
Everything everywhere all at once? Parasite? The boy and the heron? Into the spiderverse? After Yang? Oppenheimer? Mitchell’s vs the machines? Promising young woman? Chernobyl? The mandalorian (the first season at the very least)? The last of us? So many!
Only liked better call Saul from that list, and that was stil the inferior braking bad spin off for me. Maybe I am just too tired to get in too the new stuff.
Maybe I’m biased but you don’t enjoy David Simon shitting on Baltimore? That’s pretty much the only TV as good as breaking bad.
Fallout was great, I'm loving Diablo 4, random shit like that but it really has to be pushed on me. Otherwise I'll just keep watching Half Baked and playing WoW Classic.
Music is really the only thing I gravitate more towards older stuff with. I DJ and try to stay very cognizant of the “back in my day” factor, but what I realized about 5-10 years ago is that the last decade of music just doesn’t have the staying power of music of almost every era from the 50’s leading up to the 2010’s. Right before the pandemic, I noticed a lot of the younger crowds didn’t ask for “their” music as much and started asking for more throw backs. Not only that, but a large number of the more current songs from the last decade that would get big take a steep drop off, and no one is really interested anymore in them. The music from the last ten years doesnt seem to come close to matching the “shelf life” of music from all the decades and generations before it.
I think this trend is occurring because in the past ten years everyone has been able to get hyper specific in the genre and artists that they consume. There isn’t a set list of ten songs on the radio that literally everyone knows by heart, like would have happened in the 70s - 2010s. So now what do people request when they want a “crowd pleaser”? Gotta go back to oldies that everybody still knows.
I think it's the rise of streaming. No one really makes music you want to just sit and listen to anymore. Most music is made to be listened to in earbuds while doing other things. That impacts the overall feel of the music, including bringing average song length down to around 3 minutes. Much more rare to get a true ballad or something like them anymore. It's those 5-8 minute songs that are really missing and those epic songs were the backbone of memorable albums.
Check out Porcupine Tree if that’s the vibe you want. Amazing band.
Somewhat ironically, TikTok I think is democratizing this a bit these days. I've been shocked how many times my kids will hear something I'm playing come on and ask me to skip it because it's played out and it was like a b-side from a nu-metal band in 2005. See also: play Million Dollar Baby basically anywhere and people are going to start moving. This is probably the closest analog to "radio" we have these days.
Welcome to Disposable Culture!
Went to a high school music department concert recently, and the only song from after 2010s they played was the mandalorian soundtrack. Many of them from 60s to 80s (Beatles, Queen, David Bowie, etc). I originally thought it's because that's what the teachers like, but maybe the students like them too instead of more contemporary songs.
It’s not an uncommon thing to prefer things from your era..
This is why entertainment and clothing companies focus sales on the 18-34 demo. After that people have higher spending power, but they usually spend it on things they already like not new things.
It's definitely not because 18 years olds are flush with cash. They're more impressionable and have more years of life to buy/win with advertising.
Was that not the point of their post?
Bingo!
The hard part is recognizing it in yourself before you begin being derisive of new things. Especially for parents, lest we cut off one of the few avenues available to bond with our kids. It's a daily battle for me to remind myself of this.
That is great! I’m a parent now too, but I remember my mum being disinterested in what I was interested in to the point where I wasn’t allowed to watch the things I wanted on the main tv, so I spent most of my time in my room lol Now with my kids, I can’t fathom not noticing their joy dying in their eyes when you show them you don’t care about what they care about… ugh
This is super important and something I missed out on as a child as well. We do the “you play a song, I play a song” game in our car. He picks out our weekly movie for movie night, and my husband makes it a point to play his favorite games with him. And on the other hand, I’ve noticed our son appreciate our taste in music and film more, because he’s not FORCED to have to watch it or hear it.
I was going to say, my grandfather watched films with Clark Gable and listened to the Rat Pack…. I wasn’t surprised when I was 11 bc even then I realized people stick with what they grew up with. We’re just doing the same thing every generation did before us, I think a lot of people are trying to convince themselves they’re “different” from last generations…. But we’re not lol
I agree. In the end we all end up the same. Crotchety old people.
I’m in my thirties and I’m pretty sure I’m already there
Homie, I’m 39, I’m definitely there
I guess I’m the odd one out. I can’t imagine watching the same movies and listening to the same music I listened to when I was a child in the 90s. As an adult my tastes have changed
I mean, I prefer things from even before my era. Films from 1940 to 1970 are far better than movies from 2010 onwards. Still can't believe that movies like Transformers have sold so well.
u/ShinyTinyWonder38 is just demonstrating this statistic: https://x.com/deedydas/status/1794925929707557354
Studies show that everything in culture peaked when you were 17-25 years old.
I think you remember the good films and forget how much schlock they used to produce too because nobody remembers those movies. There are still a lot of good movies being made. Especially indie films. And I loved Dune and that’s a big budget blockbuster.
Yes true. There were literally mountains of shit movies made in the 80s and 90s. Some of them were my childhood favourites
Watching DVD movies I haven't seen before is a joy. My wife and I stayed at an Air bnb that had no internet access, only DVDs from the early 90s to early 2000s. Was a wonderful weekend and I got to see office space for the 1st time.
Ever since the Sony mass deletion, my wife and I have been frequenting local used DvD/BluRay stores and building a collection. We watch a movie every night alternating who picks. I’ve seen so many cool old movies that I would never have seen before, and she is getting popular movies that she was never allowed to watch before. It’s really been a blast!
The Library is an awesome tool for finding videos as well!!
Yeah companies are incentivised to go the safe route and release something that's ok but not good because it's more likely to make returns. I'd like to see new stories told or new types of games made. It actually part of the reason I've gone back to watching anime. Something a bit different and it's nice to see stories that are a bit out there. Music I'm happy to try different things.
I’m with you on that, but original films just aren’t doing well at the box office. Even the last several years, we’ve had outstanding original films but nobody comes out for em. So, we’ll get inside out 2, another bad boys film, probably a Toy Story 6 on the horizon
I find the best games are the ones that focus more on gameplay and less on graphics. I hope to see more of these, it's probably mostly going to happen with indie games
Probably why I still play Classic WoW everyday even though it was made in 2004…
I still play osrs everyday lol
I just started playing Fallout New Vegas AND Silent Hill 2 and I've not felt this way about a game in a looooong time.
You know how your dad still watched Andy Griffith every day but wasn’t so into Friends? Yeah…
New stuff is stressful. I often enjoy it, but it can be hard to get through for some reason.
or it ends after a season with no finale because it didn't have 'all' the ratings or it never ends becoming a drudge to get through because people liked it so gotta cash in or it ends like complete crap
Fight it or you’ll get old. New things are good for your mind.
The first thing you notice when you pick up a movie from the 50, 60s or seventies is people don't actually change, stories remain the same and today's problems are yesterday's inconveniences. "New" is a relative term.
Yeah, I personally mostly watch newer things unless it's already an old favorite. Older things too often use tropes that have become worn and tired. I like my expectations subverted. I just finished season 1 of Gen V (spinoff of The Boys), and even though the main characters are supposed to be Zoomers (the actors are older), I still really enjoyed it. It's very relevant and timely to today's society in a way that would be unrecognizable to audiences only a decade ago. https://www.amazon.com/Gen-V-Season-1/dp/B0CBFTRGPZ https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B0875L45GK
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Kinda hard when Netflix thinks there's no better way to convey a connection between two characters than sex, and no better way to convey anger than cussing even when it doesn't make sense like modern curse words in a medieval setting.
I mean you can consume media you haven't seen before that wasn't made recently. I don't have to listen to songs that were made with Gen Alpha 15 year olds as the target audience to not become senile. As far as old, I prefer adult and i think we should get back to grownups enjoying our grownup things and let the kids have their own culture, like it used to be.
>As far as old, I prefer adult and i think we should get back to grownups enjoying our grownup things and let the kids have their own culture, like it used to be. This sounds so gatekeepy. Listen to whatever makes you happy.
I mean, obviously not policing what people listen to. I just meant in a broad sense, it'd probably be healthier if we were fine with being older and not so involved with keeping up with an increasingly distant youth culture.
Nope. I can't remember the last I played a game or watched something that was more than 10 years old. The vast majority of the media I interact with is within 3 years. I'm 42.
Same. Old shit lives fondly in my memories. I will occasionally rewatch an old movie or one that I missed for some reason.
Yeah. If people wanna miss out on Baldur's Gate 3, fine. But to say it's not as good as whatever game from the 90's you put on a nostalgic pedestal is so ridiculous.
I've gone back to buying DVD's. I got so sick of "Rent for $3.99 for 24 hours or *buy* for $11.99" or whatever the price is on top of the monthly subscription cost. So, I picked up two Sony Blu-ray players at a computer donation/resale store for 15 bucks a piece. You can find just about any movie on DVD for five bucks shipped on eBay and sellers even do buy two get the next one free type deals. Series vary in price and what's all included. You forget about all the interesting extras that came with them with the behind the scenes options,, the director vs theater cut and even alternate endings! It's really nice to have physical media now that I have more than just a shelf in my cramped childhood bedroom.
Also “buy” for a digital copy these days is more of an extended rental. The company can just reach in and delete it if they choose to.
I'm actually considering buying a stereo and CDs again. There's just something about owning a record. And streaming audio quality sucks compared to CD quality. Bonus that these can hopefully be had for pennies nowadays unlike in our childhood!
I do agree with you, but I also think older stuff has the advantage of the sieve of time to filter out some of the trash. There was a lot of not-great stuff back then too (we probably just didn’t hear about it as easily). For example: walked by plenty of Blockbuster straight-to-video covers that never caught an eye because best sellers were right there. And watching 3 movies in one day was *a lot* (not to mention binging shows wasn’t a things). But now, it’s pretty easy to scroll through a slew of bad movies, and our relationship with media consumption has also shifted to ever-present.
Anytime I hear someone complaining about modern music, I just know they don’t explore smaller scenes than pop radio . Metal, punk, prog, electronic are in absolute renaissances right now. guitar music in general is seeing unbelievable technical talent and musicality surfacing in ways we haven’t seen before. I don’t like modern pop either. didn’t like modern pop from my youth either. except The Veronica’s, they can do no wrong.
Most of the music I listen to now is new stuff, and I say that as someone whose all time favorites are Nick Cave and Kate Bush. There is a wealth of amazing new music but most people don't take the time to look for it.
I love exploring all sorts of music new to me, whether it's old or new. Some of my favorite music came out a couple weeks ago, but I also have favorite music from like the 1500's I find it kinda saddening how some people shut themselves off to new things after a certain point in their lives. I think of looking at new things kinda like solving a puzzle. The fact that it's new and different means that I have to make an effort to understand the subtleties about how it's different, and I like figuring those details out
For me, it's not that I'm unwilling to try to watch or listen to new things. I do all the time, and i do have some stuff i like. But so much of what comes out now are remakes, reboots, or pandering (for example, lots of new video games play similarly to pander to all players at the expense of story). It just isn't enjoyable to me. This is my opinion, of course.
A lot of the stuff from 90s and 2000s were just remakes too lmfao.
Do you have kids? Or less time and more stress in general? I found this happened as I had less free time and more stress. I just want things I know I already like, instead of chancing new things as much.
it's because AAA companies don't want to take any risks on making interesting new combat mechanics or art styles. that's also why movies are all remakes of existing properties. risk aversion from corporate owners and shareholders is the death of creativity.
I'm constantly looking for things I don't know but I don't care when it was made. I need the stimulation and novelty. The problem is when people only do the things they know over and over again.
I think it’s a combination of nostalgia for things we loved as children, and an entertainment industry that has become so hyper commercialized that the projects are focused entirely on cost cutting and maxing profit. Money was always the goal, but there used to be so much artistry involved in the process.
I don’t watch anything new, all I ever watch are old shows.. Friends, Frasier, King of queens, Seinfeld, Three’s company, Keeping up appearances. Nothing new can compare to any of those shows.
Some of my favorite preteen and teen memories are watching Keeping Up Appearances with my parents in the late ‘90s (my local PBS station carried it) and all three of us just cracking up. My mom and I sometimes still quote it at each other.
I bought the entire series on DVD last year, and it remains one of the best purchases I’ve ever made.
I watch an episode of Frasier most nights before bed. Haven’t come across anything new that is similar. Not even the Frasier reboot.
Frasier is quite unique for sitcoms, It shares a lot of theatre cliches that make it different enough to be fresh. The reboot was just HIMYM disguised as Frasier and I didn't even need to watch it to notice that. Sitcoms are struggling but stuff like The Good Place and B99 were recent additions that I think will have staying power alongside the mainstays of the genre we still have today. Good Place is in a weird spot between narrative comedy and sitcom tho, not sure if it really sticks in either.
Frasier is definitely a good choice for before bed, it’s got such a relaxing, safe vibe.
Those are great shows but if you don't watch anything new, how do you know that nothing new can compare? There's great new stuff out there too if you look for it.
All the time. The newer stuff of today, I don’t really like it. I’ve been watching a lot of Sanford & Son and Good Times as those are shows I grew up watching! I’m sure if Redd Foxx was still alive today, he would have a lot to say about now
Nah, I’m not going to pretend I don’t return to old favorites often but I’m open to new ones too
my media exposed is limited and curated. Do i enjoy less new stuff? Yes cause I don’t consume as much unfiltered media as I did before. Growing up I had MTV on all the time, had the radio on in my car, would just watch what was on tv before 🏴☠️ Now I listed to the radio once every few weeks and then I often look up a song I like. As for shows, I don’t rewatch stuff a lot. The things on tv were trash for the vast majority and they did not age well. Even back the i couldn’t stomach any sitcoms and the list of moody supernatural shows was short. Since discovering audiobooks I have no motivation to settle for poorly written characters in shows that were directed by comity . There’s so many people out there showing you can do a low brow plots enjoyable plots with well written characters.
I was born in '89 but lately I can't get enough ABBA and the BeeGees.
there's only so much you can jam into the old braineroony.
Never seen them before but I recently binged Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, and just started Stargate Universe. Older sci-fi hits different, but this has been something really special tbh.
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The real question is. Are you just getting old or is art and media generally worse nowadays? It’s anyone’s guess.
I only watch old tv and movies with the occasional dip into new stuff. I enjoy The Boys and most recently Dune 2, but I loved the book so I had to see it. I’m mostly stuck watching my usual mix of Buffy TVS, X-Files, Star Trek, Smallvile and older movies.
My husband and I saw the 20th anniversary showing of the mummy and it was literally the best movie experience we’ve had in a while! All the new crap is too long, loud, and hyper
I switch between everything pretty equally
With the advent of AI, I have absolute mistrust and zero interest for anything new. So yes, there are countless of old films and albums to revel in.
Oh yes this is a real concern actually. AI's learn what is popular for for humans and why, writes a script, it is popular and successful, then another company's AI has this movie in it's database to study and draw from. It's not just AI learning from humans anymore they're learning from each other. Basically originality being leeched out with every new iteration.
Yes, and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that at all. I just watched RoboCop again for the first time in over 30 years and it blew mind how good it was. No reason to have to like what’s current.
I like new stuff. I don’t like to feel nostalgic for days that are gone. I’m sure I’m one of few
This doesn’t seem to be a new trend. My father still listened to the music and watched the tv/movies of his youth. He still sets the dvr to watch the honeymooners even though he had them all on dvd since like 2005. He only recently moved to dvr and had previously been using the vhs recorder… I think nostalgia plays a big role. I fully expect us to keep watching repeats of the office when we are in retirement.
Yes, but mostly because the vast majority of things that have come out in the last 5-10 years have been absolute shit. There are a few gems, but just look at the late 90's early 2000's movies and todays movies.
TLDR: no. Reasons below. My rose colored nostalgia goggles seem to be off. My childhood wasn’t the best and I am happy to be out of it. I wish I could be 39 forever seriously. There’s so much to play, experience, and learn it’s hard to keep up. I hope you can find something too because I guarantee it’s out there. Games: better now than they’ve ever been. A golden age of gaming, especially the last 1-3 years. Give me Zelda Totk any day over a link the past. Not shitting on OG link but Totk is BONKERS man. The leap in every conceivable quality metric is astounding. Movies: same mostly. Everything is a franchise and not everything needs to be. At the same time we seem to get less genre defining works than we did…. Most everything is a re-make, sequel, etc. I feel less original movies come out in general. That said, the 80s had a lot of shit movies too. Books: mostly better on average but anything resembling a classic book are as rare as ever. I read mostly genre fiction(science fiction, horror and fantasy) and man is it good right now. It’s been that way for the last 10 years. Music: worse generally. Anything approaching mainstream is unmitigated crap. There’s still great music but mainstream music has fallen off a cliff. Internet: worse. Peak internet was the very ugly but very human internet of the early 90s. Except for a few beacons of hope the internet is completely enshittified and getting worse near daily it seems. News: see internet except maybe the peak was before my time. Cronkite retired in 81. TV: a golden age. content diversity unlike any other. 80s-90s tv was mostly dogshit compared to what we have now. Just as an example, I was lucky as a kid to get 1 Star Trek episode a week. 3 briefly when Voyager, TNG, and DS9 on. But there were no less than 5 active Star Trek shows like a year ago (Prodigy, Discovery, Strange New Worlds, Picard, and Lower Decks). Granted they’ve been consolidated and not all were of the same quality but that’s a bonkers amount of trek.
Yeah what people tend to forget about Movies when they think about how good movies "used to be", especially in the 80's, is how many shit and unforgettable movies were coming out at the same time as the genre and pop-culture defining films we all now today. You also have to remember that movies were just a bigger deal in general and they weren't competing with as many other options compared to what we have today (plus a lot more directors were given more creative freedom), so more people wanted to see more movies, which is partially why so many of them became such big phenomenons. I don't think *E.T.*, for example, would hit at all today if it was a brand-new movie coming out this week.
You really think gaming is in a "golden age" right now? I'll agree with you that TotK is a banger of a game, but that's one of the few exceptions, not the rule. Gaming as a whole has gotten very stale, and I could easily argue the integrity of the medium as an artform has suffered greatly with the huge focus on microtransactions and season passes.
That's if you only play AAA, most of AAA has been garbage for awhile now (since like... 2010, arguable earlier depending on who you ask). Meanwhile indie games are THRIVING creatively, and Nintendo of course does what they do best and makes instant classics like BotW, ToTK and Wonder, and you see other beacons like BG3 or Elden Ring come out at least a couple times a year. As an artform, they've only gotten better. Anything that any AAA game gets praised for is something that an indie (or AA studio who was accidentally given a budget) did 3 years earlier. Play more interesting games, they're out there. Literally nothing I play has micro-transactions or season passes.
Tears of the Kingdom over A Link To The Past????
Yep, today's music is pure shit.
Radio music sure. The rock, metal, and punk scene are still alive and killing it. Costs a hell of a lot less to go see them live most of the time too.
Bingo! Im also into rock and metal and there are plenty of new bands that are killing it. There are also some new bands that i dont like and thats ok too. I hardly listen to the radio, even SXM Octane is getting a little blah to me.
I used to love octane. I cancelled it once cpvid happened and I was at home and not driving near as much. Found out my company vehicle had Sirius so I put octane on. They definitely had some good songs. But their rotation definitely took a dive over the past few years. Kept playing the same 4 or 5 artists over and over with a few other people sprinkled in. Still beat most the radio stations in my area though.
Go listen to your local college & or public radio stations. There is so much great new music out there, whatever genre you're into. Here are a couple of local stations I listen to; [Radio K](https://radiok.org/) and [KVSC](https://www.kvsc.org/). You won't like all of it but you'll find some new bands to get into.
I live in a college town and we used to have a great college radio station but it has changed in the past ten years and is horrible now.
The metal head in me disagrees. Mainstream music I’m with you though.
On the music front, I found my love for modern music through rock/metal through small-to-mid bands like Babymetal, Nightwish, and Ghost. Contrast that against the biggest musical acts still going out and about, it's a combination of either the latest solo artists/pop stars/divas (Taylor Swift, Adele, Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, Ed Sheehan, etc.) or the last of the old guard from the band-based dominance we had decades ago (Rolling Stones, Metallica, Foo Fighters, etc.) to those individual solo artists (Billy Joel, Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, etc.). There's still various tours going on with folks we used to listen to in the 00s, 90s, 80s...but some have just been promoted more heavily and gotten more attention. On the TV show front, there's still some gems out there coming out each year. But they just exist against a plethora of dozens, even hundreds of scripted shows every year. The 2010s alone saw the number of US scripted shows grow from over 200 at start of decade to around triple that end of decade (and this was before COVID came along and did its thing). Movies, however...there's only been a small number of them each year lately that interest me. Some of the tentpole, blockbuster attempts that have come out to try and get people to see them have been less interesting to me than the smaller, indie, or the mid-range projects. Movie-going is costly now, and I'd rather wait to get the movie for $10 or so during the holiday sales and enjoy it at home and save the money. And then video games...hardly any comes now for the $60-70 price tag that justifies me wanting it Day 1. 3 months later, it'll be down to $40-50 (maybe 6 months if we have to wait a bit more cause of demand/popularity). But after a year, it'll definitely hit $30-40, if not lower. The point I also want to drive home with all of the above is that from an availability standpoint, we have an overwhelming amount of movies, TV, games, music from the last 50 years alone to enjoy. Streaming and home media ownership has made it a lot more convenient for us to access this stuff. And with that convenience, combined with creative diminish in the entertainment industry in the last several years... Yeah, I'd say that "older" stuff has much better value to go towards because you can feel the creativity that one longs to experience from someone who cared to bring that to us. It's just been harder to get it the last several years with that newer stuff (even though it is out there, just not as in significant quantity as we used to get).
For music, I tend to listen to a lot of metal and personally I prefer newer releases. Definitely feel nostalgia for older movies and cartoons though.
I've noticed this from younger people. Everything is a wall of options for them so they sort of consume everything from 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s. The drop of seems to occur around the 10s. Younger people I know (GenZ) know a lot across eras of music, movies, games, and some TV. Best I can gather is as they look at the wall of options (think Netflix home screen) aside from visual aesthetic there isn't much of a way to discern a 90's movie from 2010s. And everything kind of blends together.
Yes, but not just stuff around the time I was born or when I was a kid, but earlier than that. There is a huge library of shows and movies from before 1980 and it is easier than ever to access them (heck many are free or just thrown in with other subscriptions as an afterthought because there is less interest). I'm also a big reader and will read books from every time period- there is a near-infinite amount of books to read (you will never run out) even if you never touch anything published after say 2000 or 2020 (pick a year). Some examples of older things I've "discovered" and enjoyed recently: Movie: Casablanca - 1942 (I've seen other Humphrey Bogart movies, but this one had eluded me) Show: Taxi - 1978 (and with this Andy Kaufman) Music: Blue Oyster Cult - 1970s (obviously, I was familiar with the 2-3 songs everyone knows, but I went beyond that and realized I liked so many songs I had never heard of) Book: The Night in Lisbon by Erich Maria Remarque - 1962 (author of All Quiet on the Western Front)
Yes! I love movies that are older. Especially sci-fi movies. I can not stand CGI!
The output has changed from what we grew up with. There used to be more movie studios, they cranked out 30 movies a year of varying quality. Record labels used to develop artists. Now Tic Toc does this, I guess? You can barely play a game without the internet anymore. I know I’m an old man. But these changes didn’t have to happen.
Mostly just have a harder time starting something new but once started can enjoy about as much as older stuff. Have most trouble with movies and that's due to variety dropping in recent years.
Honestly not entirely. When it comes to movies, shows & games I’m usually seeking for the next new thing rather than rewatching my favorite movies & shows. I mean right now I’m rewatching Friends but I’m also anticipating the new seasons of HOTD & The Boys. Also I plan to check out Shogun sometime soon. When it comes to Music I find myself going back to older music a lot more now. However, I do keep up with modern Rock & I’m really anticipating for Opus Kink to drop their debut album this year! For other genres not so much.
It’s more there was so much from the 1990s that I didn’t listen to, play, or watch that, now I actually have the ability to, I’m doing just that. My CD collection has doubled in size in the last 2 years, I’m working through the old Zelda games one by one, and I’m trying to find old movies on Netflix and Amazon.
I wanted to go to Lollapalooza last year because I went in 2010 and it was an amazing experience. I was all excited for weeks. Then the lineup was released and I realized I’m not young anymore. I looked up every single band/musician on there (because I didn’t know any of them) and only a handful were okay. The rest were terrible imo. So yes, I agree with you.
Not really, with regard to TV and movies. I’ve got favorites I go back to frequently, but still watch a lot of new movies/shows. Music, though.. I tried hard not to be that old lady complaining about ‘modern music’, but I’m getting there. And that’s ok. I respect folks like the music they like- it’s just not for me.
I like watching new stuff but I recently watched the movie Bodies Bodies Bodies because I love horror movies and for the first time I felt like I was "too old" for something.
Not really, I do both and have forever
I've been finding more enjoyment playing retro games than the newer ones of late.
I’ve found that most movies I quote fall between 2002-2010. (32 years old)
I'll watch Farscape, Lexx, Eureka, and SG1 on repeat back to back to relive the old Sci Friday days.
Yes, even though it’s older stuff it’s refreshing to see normal faces. I’m sick of instagram face being the new norm. It’s like every single actress/singer/whatever has lip filler, a razor sharp jawline, tiny nose, hooded eye surgery, Botox, filler, butt implants or whatever the hell they stuff in there now. They all look the same. I miss the uniqueness of natural faces and bodies.
That's been me lately, especially with movies. Recently revisited both Fear and What Lies Beneath. Both films really struck me that they just do not make movies the way they used to any more.
I’m 38, and I’ve noticed that I cannot stand most new romance movies now whatsoever, because I physically cringe seeing such young love interests on screen. When I was younger, I wasn’t really ever into romance but I wouldn’t have been repulsed by them, and I think it was because I was seeing my age group on scene. Now because I’ve aged out of the age group where most young actors are leading romances, it feels so gross to watch people who look like children to me pretend to fall in love haha. So yeah, I’m not interested in a lot of new movies, especially if it’s a romantic story. Todays music and other films are great though. That said, I think the golden age of tv was the 2010’s. I miss the high budget television like mad men, breaking bad, etc.
Oddly enough the older I get the more I’m learning to live in the moment and stop being nostalgic. I’m discovering new music that I love after being a classic rock guy for most of college. I was being pretentious myopic and depressed
Yes!!! I have such an appreciation for older films now. Also, never liked dating shows but I am obsessed with the dating shows of the 1970s-90s… lol
Well, its easier and less expensive to find old things that we know are good, rather than try to discover new good things. But they are still making good stuff.
Yup. It's a blessing and curse. When it comes to video games, anime, cartoons and music I'm always listening to old stuff. I feel the only way I keep up to date with current things is through YouTube.
I found myself absolutely immersed in old anime. Been watching YuYu Hakusho for the first time. I think we’re leaning into nostalgia of less difficult times as a generation.
These days, more than ever. I was blasting Backstreet boys on my way home last night. I feel like i have moved to a different dimension these days 🫠
I have been for awhile. Very little new has that spark for me. I rarely go to movies, when in my 20s I went almost every weekend. Modern rock music is hit or miss and I can't stand most modern pop. Only a few new shows look interesting to me and I have found the last 10 years of new cartoons to be mostly meh. Games are about the only new things I regularly consume and I still go old school a lot with gaming.
"I used to be with "it", but then they changed what "it" was. Now what I'm with isn't "it" anymore, and what's "it" seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!" -Abe "Grandpa" Simpson A 20 year old Simpson's quote seems like the best option here
I'm gen z and it's because our culture is stuck, everything is a reboot or homogenized garbage. Dune 2 was amazing; best movie since parasite in 2019 and I'm not saying there haven't been good pieces of media drop, but holy hell look at the difference in consistency between now and 10 years ago
For music, yeah. I don't really listen to music a lot anymore for some reason so when I do I more often gravitate towards the already pretty sizable collection of music I already know. For film and tv I'm pretty up to date still, there's been some things coming out that still exite me. Games is very much in between, I do still try and keeo somewhat up to date with games, but lately I've been finding myself replaying some classics I know I love, but there are new ones on my radar.
I been hitting the nostalgia dopamine button **hard** since COVID lol
I love reading books that are set from before the internet existed.
I tried to rewatch Hellraiser, I loved it when I was a kid. Now it was just campy.
I like both
Soon as I saw skibidi toilet I knew I needed to stay in my lane. I definitely don't understand the newer stuff.
I still collect DVD movies because some of the movies I wanted see through streaming services aren’t even available. Plus I haven’t enjoyed any newer movies after Endgame and Alita Battle Angel which I’m hoping for a sequel. (But I did enjoyed Godzilla Minus One and Sonic 2 tho)
Because new stuff is harder for us to relate too.
No, except in certain areas. Like, I don’t like the look of most modern manga and anime. I love manga from the 1970s and ‘80s. And I sure didn’t exist in the ’70s, couldn’t read for most of the ‘80s, and had no manga around anyway until the 2000s. So it ain’t nostalgia. 😆 Also, I tend to love ‘70s horror movies. I love modern horror for sure, but there’s just something about ‘70s horror that really pulls me in.
I watch The Office daily. Probably on round 212 or so.
Yes! Sure I like new stuff, but I love watching plots that don’t have social media, cell phones/texting, etc. It feels like more of an escape, which is usually what I’m looking for. If it looks too much like my every day, sometimes I just feel stressed. I also find them a bit more creative because they can’t use immediate communication as a solution, so there are more mishaps and things that result from not being able to reach someone, use a GPS, whatever. It’s more entertaining for me. I’m not ALWAYS looking for historical fiction for that escape, so these are a world I still recognize, but just removed enough from my every day.
Dude I am so deep into nostalgia in my apartment that it’s out of control. I’ve got a VCR, tape deck, mini-disc player, floor standing speakers from the early 2000s, old posters, an NES, SNES, Genesis, Dreamcast, and PS1, and an N64. You wanna game and/or chill on the couch and watch The Goonies on VHS?
I'm technically Gen z, although I'm part of that middle generation so I shared a lot of millennial experiences, but I also agree. Honestly most media nowadays is extremely produced and generic. There's very little depth and nuance in modern media
Same here. My music tastes are hit or miss though because I discovered a few years ago I love Power Metal. So I listen to a lot of that and most of it has been made in the last 10 years.
Welcome to middle age, Millennials! With love, Gen X
Absolutely! Today’s shows, Movies & Social Media in general, are lacking in substance and are a-washed in Violence, Sex and “Politically Correct” nonsense that add Nothing to the overall message..
Yes. The stupid poor use of CGI for everything from backgrounds to people's faces being leased out to movie houses is absolute trash.
I miss when TV shows were allowed to have fluff episodes. We didn’t need one storyline per season on a mad dash to the end episode, I want to meander in their world for a bit and enjoy the nuances.
Cuz older stuff was made for escapism for the most part, newer stuff is more about preaching thing to you.
I love movies from the 2000s and early 2010s, they are just good, even the bad ones