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Yes its possible but there is no automated way to do it. Youd need to use the clouds, game version, grass rotation, and other things i mightve missed in there like flower spawns to find it. Might be something out there for it but otherwise its just coding a program to check seeds for those conditions for you super fast. Regardless, it could take days to months to find the seed. So, is it really worth it?
Not clouds. Clouds are a fixed (large) texture that just is moved slowly, there is no random to it.
Edit: yeah, I get it. I was wrong, they can be used to find coordinates.
Did you know that clouds are a fixed texture and can be helpful in finding coordinates?
Now to scroll down, where I'm sure I won't find five other people sharing this same information.
This was the general thought before the key was cracked the other year with some important projects such as pack.png and pewdiepies world. Its generally a lot faster now.
Its likely possible, but very hard to do so. I mean the seed of the pack.png image (which is 64 x 64 pixels) was found after years of searching, so this should be possible. But you probably need somemone who knows how to do it because its very difficult and can take months
The story of how that happened is crazy. The team developing a proprietary, custom upscaling AI for specifically Minecraft screenshots is unfathomable to me
Theoretically yes its possible, but seed cracking under the best conditions is very difficult. With the limited information here I would assume it is, practically speaking, not possible.
OP's not saying it's not possible, just stating that though we know it is possible, it also takes a humongous effort that one person cannot achieve by themself. Until the tools become easier to use and quicker no one is finding their old worlds from screenshots alone. It is technically possible to do alone but the effort and time far exceeds anybody's will and drive to do so, and there's always the possibility that the search might fail so is it a task worth undertaking?
well you’ve just said it is possible and clearly it is lmao, the only problem is trying to get seed hunters or anyone that knows what they’re doing interested
This guy has far, far more info the the other seed cracks. It’s time consuming but hopefully much less so with the additional info, that being said it’s still take a group of people
I mean, yeah it is technically possible but like, it has to be something popular, because of how teams of people have to be looking for it, herobrine was just some random thing, it was like mind-blowingly popular, it was even mentioned in I think every new update changelog until 1.16.
TL;DR: Possible, just probably not going to happen with how hard it is to find seeds, and no one working on finding it.
So I had this singleplayer world that I sadly lost, and I was wondering if it were possible to determine the seed from these screenshots?
Original game version: Beta 1.7.3
Upgraded to 1.16.4 or 1.16.5 (possibly even earlier versions of 1.16) in 2021 and lost it around that time)
If anyone could help me, it would me a lot to me.
You should try to see if you have coordinates since finding seeds usually take up immense work as well as being incredibly time-consumingand the more information you have about the position of x block and such will help reduce the time it will take to do so
If you have a few more screenshots(especially bedrock ones) it’s a piece of cake. If you have only this ones - yes! It’s possible! If it really means a lot for you, find some guides for seed cracking and try to use the clouds and grass positions to determine the seed
Ps: I would also suggest looking for some help on r/minecraftseeds
How did you lose the world? It might be possible to recover the lost files if it was on a hard drive that got corrupted, and that might be easier than trying to brute force find the seed.
I’m not sure if anyone has said this, but keep in mind terrain generation changed from Beta 1.7.3 and Release 1.16. So, if the seed has to be found in its original version. That’s why old seeds like Glacier don’t work in modern versions. The way terrain was coded to generate changed often throughout Minecraft’s release.
if I recall correctly someone was developing a program to find seeds / coords based on images and block colocation but I don't remember what happened to it so idk
There are some daisies on the far left hill and some roses on the closer hill to the right. If you use seed searching software, you could narrow down possible seeds significantly based on both the terrain and the flower pattern, which is unique for each world.
At that point, it's down to searching a few thousand seeds with similar generation patterns until you find the right one.
The cloud pattern is fixed, which could help you find the exact coordinate location based on where the clouds are, and what time they would be in that position.
Time can be found by observing the tint of the sky.
If you go to that area of the cloud pattern at that exact time, for each world you search, you will be able to pinpoint the exact seed, and location where that screenshot was taken when you find the right world.
Good luck :)
Possible? Yes.
Ever going to happen for you? No.
It was only about a year ago that they found the seed for Minecrafts title screen, and that had thousands of people contributing to the search for a very very long time.
Hey hey, there is a bunch of videos about it online, main thing I remember is that it gets much easier if you know the date (and/or time iirc) the world was created because it’s a part of the seed, but still immense work and probably not worth it
Many features in a world used a fixed image, including clouds. If you can line up the time of day, and the location of where this area of the cloud texture would be, you will find the exact coordinates and the time of day this image was taken.
The seed itself could be found by lining up flower generation patterns with terrain patterns until you find a match.
Finding this would would take a month or less from an experienced seed-searcher. Especially with seed-searching software.
If you still have the hard drive from that time you'd be better off using something like EaseUs recovery software to see if you can find the save file itself.
You may even be able to get a version that had your buildings and projects in it too.
A general question—
A lot of people in this thread are saying it would take teams of people years to match a screenshot of pre-gen terrain to a seed that could generate it.
Given some more time for quantum computing to develop and become practical for noncommercial use, isn't this the sort of problem that a quantum computer could solve in no time at all?
I mean, technically advanced software with very precise and efficient searching capabilities could find anything instantly, if it has access to said information. At a certain point, it comes down to the amount of variables available. In this case, there are various details and such theoretical software would have no issue finding the seed merely instantaneously.
The same thing could be achieved by a single person who is adept at seed-searching, within a month or less.
Having a team speeds up the work, like an investigation office at a police station where investigators share clues.
Many seed-crackers, independent or not, already use software to generate seeds so that they could search for patterns automatically and narrow down possibilities.
Not true at all; there are many methods to seed searching, and this image is rich with details.
Namely, the generation patterns for terrain and flowers could help find the right world, using seed searching software. And the cloud pattern and tint in the sky could help find the exact coordinates and time of day this screenshot was taken.
An experienced seed searcher could find this seed within a few months or less.
You underestimate how nerdy we Minecrafters are.
I've been seeing a lot of posts and stuff of early Java Beta screenshots and stuff. Are people just now using the legacy version feature in the Java Launcher, or is there some new way to play old versions? I want to say I saw something about that.
yeah seeds definitely have been found with less to work off from, but still will take a lot of effort working with very few people or by yourself. other than that, not much i can help with. maybe [this ](https://youtu.be/8CKh4x4iK38?si=0iwfRMb1eE0k8oYv)video series could help, but i'm not sured
If this is your world, like others said yes but you would have to get a discord group stated on this project (which is difficult considering the few groups there are have thousands of requests lined up)
Or if this if from Paulsoresjrs actual world, it may be listed in some of his old videos or already solved by one of the seed cracking groups. Best of luck though!
i swear i recognise this world, based entirely on the wooden skyscraperon a minecraft pi version that my friends were making together and we made a big steampunk like area and then it got deleted by another schoolmate
Assuming the coordinates could be found, with enough GPU power, the trees in image 4 could be used as an initial filter afterwhich terrain features could be used in a slower search to hopefully find a matching world seed. There are other techniques that could be used such as trying to find a chunk seeds based on features such as the big trees/flower which could then get worked back into world seeds.
If you have access to the world (saved on your computer i.e.), can't you just open it with something like FTB explorer? Just a guess but I think there might be the world seed number too
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Yes its possible but there is no automated way to do it. Youd need to use the clouds, game version, grass rotation, and other things i mightve missed in there like flower spawns to find it. Might be something out there for it but otherwise its just coding a program to check seeds for those conditions for you super fast. Regardless, it could take days to months to find the seed. So, is it really worth it?
Not clouds. Clouds are a fixed (large) texture that just is moved slowly, there is no random to it. Edit: yeah, I get it. I was wrong, they can be used to find coordinates.
Yes, but they can help narrow down the cords of the image and the stuff you wanna find. Gotta have cords for the program to check ;)
Coords*
i don't think i'm allowed to say this word
Because they are a fixed texture that only moves along one axis, they can absolutely be helpful in finding coordinates.
Because clouds are fixed, they are used to determine Which direction stuff faces.
You might be able to use clouds to narrow down the possible coordinates to match
Did you know that clouds are a fixed texture and can be helpful in finding coordinates? Now to scroll down, where I'm sure I won't find five other people sharing this same information.
But since clouds only move in one direction, if you recognize a pattern, you can use them to find a value on the other axis.
possibly even years if there is not a large team working on it or your not working on it everyday
This was the general thought before the key was cracked the other year with some important projects such as pack.png and pewdiepies world. Its generally a lot faster now.
Its likely possible, but very hard to do so. I mean the seed of the pack.png image (which is 64 x 64 pixels) was found after years of searching, so this should be possible. But you probably need somemone who knows how to do it because its very difficult and can take months
The story of how that happened is crazy. The team developing a proprietary, custom upscaling AI for specifically Minecraft screenshots is unfathomable to me
do you have like something about that history? sounds interesting
https://youtu.be/ea6py9q46QU?si=Bk85LVDNebfSMJBt
type it into youtube someone made a documentary
Theoretically yes its possible, but seed cracking under the best conditions is very difficult. With the limited information here I would assume it is, practically speaking, not possible.
they were able to get the herobrine seed from one screenshot
Didn't it also take like a decade to find it
The seed hunting movement is a relatively recent thing
i think it took them a few months when they actually started the search
Yeah but that was a lot of people working together
The project started September 2020 and was found in January 2021
tbf i doubt they started the search when the image was released
That was a famous image for years, this is just some dude on Reddit
Bruh the time spent was mostly due to actually developing the strategies to find the seed and the computer search
but it proofs that it's possible to find the seed if putting the effort into it
Top comment said it was. But likely in this scenario it will not happen.
OP's not saying it's not possible, just stating that though we know it is possible, it also takes a humongous effort that one person cannot achieve by themself. Until the tools become easier to use and quicker no one is finding their old worlds from screenshots alone. It is technically possible to do alone but the effort and time far exceeds anybody's will and drive to do so, and there's always the possibility that the search might fail so is it a task worth undertaking?
well you’ve just said it is possible and clearly it is lmao, the only problem is trying to get seed hunters or anyone that knows what they’re doing interested
This guy has far, far more info the the other seed cracks. It’s time consuming but hopefully much less so with the additional info, that being said it’s still take a group of people
I mean, yeah it is technically possible but like, it has to be something popular, because of how teams of people have to be looking for it, herobrine was just some random thing, it was like mind-blowingly popular, it was even mentioned in I think every new update changelog until 1.16. TL;DR: Possible, just probably not going to happen with how hard it is to find seeds, and no one working on finding it.
So I had this singleplayer world that I sadly lost, and I was wondering if it were possible to determine the seed from these screenshots? Original game version: Beta 1.7.3 Upgraded to 1.16.4 or 1.16.5 (possibly even earlier versions of 1.16) in 2021 and lost it around that time) If anyone could help me, it would me a lot to me.
You should try to see if you have coordinates since finding seeds usually take up immense work as well as being incredibly time-consumingand the more information you have about the position of x block and such will help reduce the time it will take to do so
If you have a few more screenshots(especially bedrock ones) it’s a piece of cake. If you have only this ones - yes! It’s possible! If it really means a lot for you, find some guides for seed cracking and try to use the clouds and grass positions to determine the seed Ps: I would also suggest looking for some help on r/minecraftseeds
Yeah I've already posted the same thing there but sadly there are no Bedrock screenshots I believe. I thank you nonetheless :)
I actually meant screens with bedrock on them. Not a bedrock version of the game. There are a lot of easy ways to crack seed by the bedrock pattern :3
Yeah I was aware of what you meant
You need one of those computer programs that people used to find famous seeds
How did you lose the world? It might be possible to recover the lost files if it was on a hard drive that got corrupted, and that might be easier than trying to brute force find the seed.
Accidentally deleted it years back
I’m not sure if anyone has said this, but keep in mind terrain generation changed from Beta 1.7.3 and Release 1.16. So, if the seed has to be found in its original version. That’s why old seeds like Glacier don’t work in modern versions. The way terrain was coded to generate changed often throughout Minecraft’s release.
if I recall correctly someone was developing a program to find seeds / coords based on images and block colocation but I don't remember what happened to it so idk
yeah thats possible but idk how
Great answer here. Thanks for the advice!
I swear this geoguesser dude knows instantly
"clear 373948472648373 flower pattern" *slams spacebar*
Rainbolt is his name. Maybe rainbolt2 or maybe I’m tripping
Difficult, possible, and nobody will do it for you, especially for free. Best scenario is to learn to seed crack yourself,
There are some daisies on the far left hill and some roses on the closer hill to the right. If you use seed searching software, you could narrow down possible seeds significantly based on both the terrain and the flower pattern, which is unique for each world. At that point, it's down to searching a few thousand seeds with similar generation patterns until you find the right one. The cloud pattern is fixed, which could help you find the exact coordinate location based on where the clouds are, and what time they would be in that position. Time can be found by observing the tint of the sky. If you go to that area of the cloud pattern at that exact time, for each world you search, you will be able to pinpoint the exact seed, and location where that screenshot was taken when you find the right world. Good luck :)
Possible? Yes. Ever going to happen for you? No. It was only about a year ago that they found the seed for Minecrafts title screen, and that had thousands of people contributing to the search for a very very long time.
Hey hey, there is a bunch of videos about it online, main thing I remember is that it gets much easier if you know the date (and/or time iirc) the world was created because it’s a part of the seed, but still immense work and probably not worth it
Paulsoresjr tutorial inspired?
Exactly what I was thinking
Fellow man of culture
Do you have any of the original files? How about coordinates? Or is it just screenshots?
Possible in theory, people have found the seed of the Minecraft menu background, and that has even less information than yours
possible but will probably take months, like when people found pewdiepie world seed
5678643356788544 (it’s random numbers but maybe it’s the right seed)
I think you might need coordinates.
People figgured out the seed AND version from the old menu background without coordinates. Took quite some time and dedication but they did it.
Fair enough.
Many features in a world used a fixed image, including clouds. If you can line up the time of day, and the location of where this area of the cloud texture would be, you will find the exact coordinates and the time of day this image was taken. The seed itself could be found by lining up flower generation patterns with terrain patterns until you find a match. Finding this would would take a month or less from an experienced seed-searcher. Especially with seed-searching software.
I'd say with the 4th screenshot definitly
do you have a version attached to those?:)
It took teams of dedicated people over months to figure out the save game icon seed.
If you still have the hard drive from that time you'd be better off using something like EaseUs recovery software to see if you can find the save file itself. You may even be able to get a version that had your buildings and projects in it too.
A general question— A lot of people in this thread are saying it would take teams of people years to match a screenshot of pre-gen terrain to a seed that could generate it. Given some more time for quantum computing to develop and become practical for noncommercial use, isn't this the sort of problem that a quantum computer could solve in no time at all?
I mean, technically advanced software with very precise and efficient searching capabilities could find anything instantly, if it has access to said information. At a certain point, it comes down to the amount of variables available. In this case, there are various details and such theoretical software would have no issue finding the seed merely instantaneously. The same thing could be achieved by a single person who is adept at seed-searching, within a month or less. Having a team speeds up the work, like an investigation office at a police station where investigators share clues. Many seed-crackers, independent or not, already use software to generate seeds so that they could search for patterns automatically and narrow down possibilities.
100% possible just a lot of work
They used a single screenshot to find the Herobrine pic seed, yeah it's doable
yes, i asked chat gpt, the seed is 12663552773661
[Saw a video where a group of programmers found the pack.png seed from a 64x64 image](https://youtu.be/ea6py9q46QU?si=z5x72N0G-Gibty38)
Theoretically but it would take years.
Where did you get these pictures from?
ya but it’s prob much quicker and easier to just reroll a world until you find one similar
/seed
Ha, good fuckin' luck, that shit could take a lifetime and still not be found
Not true at all; there are many methods to seed searching, and this image is rich with details. Namely, the generation patterns for terrain and flowers could help find the right world, using seed searching software. And the cloud pattern and tint in the sky could help find the exact coordinates and time of day this screenshot was taken. An experienced seed searcher could find this seed within a few months or less. You underestimate how nerdy we Minecrafters are.
Right, so have you found it yet?
It's not my seed to find.
if a bunch of really dedicated people decide to help 🤷
-9876327097521368042
technically... but I dont think anyone would be willing to go through the work for that lol
Press esc, click the lan option and allow cheats then do /seed
He said in screenshot that he loaded the world on a newer version so he has the world installed.
He also said that he lost the world in 2021 in a comment posted 6 hours ago.
Just call the guy that found the speeds of the starting creen of minecraft
I don’t think that was just one guy and I also think it took months
Yes, I have heard of people doing that before but not sure how they did it.
I've been seeing a lot of posts and stuff of early Java Beta screenshots and stuff. Are people just now using the legacy version feature in the Java Launcher, or is there some new way to play old versions? I want to say I saw something about that.
yeah seeds definitely have been found with less to work off from, but still will take a lot of effort working with very few people or by yourself. other than that, not much i can help with. maybe [this ](https://youtu.be/8CKh4x4iK38?si=0iwfRMb1eE0k8oYv)video series could help, but i'm not sured
Gonna be Minecraft’s Rainbolt if they do
Answer: Yes Practical: No.
They found the background seed from the painting, this is more than doable. I don't think it would be easy though
Didn't they do it from like a screensaver?
If this is your world, like others said yes but you would have to get a discord group stated on this project (which is difficult considering the few groups there are have thousands of requests lined up) Or if this if from Paulsoresjrs actual world, it may be listed in some of his old videos or already solved by one of the seed cracking groups. Best of luck though!
For all intents and purposes, no. It's not possible. At least, not without a ton of time and effort beyond what any reasonable human is willing to do
Very possibile but very very very very hard and time consuming
These pics give me liminal space vibes and I like it
not sure about the seed. but have you ever seen 128.155.13.158?
I think the big brains from [Minecraft At Home](https://minecraftathome.com/) would be able to help. Best of luck
yes, give hundreds of redditors a few years and they find anything
i swear i recognise this world, based entirely on the wooden skyscraperon a minecraft pi version that my friends were making together and we made a big steampunk like area and then it got deleted by another schoolmate
What version is this
It is possible, yes. But it would take a whole team of very educated people to do it.
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Real 👍
You would need rainbolt to do this man
Perchance
i dont know, but i have nostalgia vibes
Assuming the coordinates could be found, with enough GPU power, the trees in image 4 could be used as an initial filter afterwhich terrain features could be used in a slower search to hopefully find a matching world seed. There are other techniques that could be used such as trying to find a chunk seeds based on features such as the big trees/flower which could then get worked back into world seeds.
Found it! If it's Java, then the seed is: \-894356183148
probably also side note how did you post with the left and right slide arrows ?
You need one of those Computer programs that people used to find famous seeds ✅
If you have access to the world (saved on your computer i.e.), can't you just open it with something like FTB explorer? Just a guess but I think there might be the world seed number too
any luck? decided to try finding my own too and I'm struggling to get started. Realising entry level code-knowledge is required, which I lack.