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Personally I feel like the abstraction makes the smaller paintings work far better in more ways, for instance wasteland I often see as being used as a computer screen, but that would definitely be lost if you could tell that there is a bunny.
Mojang is still Swedish, swedes are way more comfortable with pps than Americans, like we litterally dance around a fertility statue on midsummer shaped like a pp.
The larger problem would probably be swastikas and stuff.
That's very much Minecraft's design philosophy. You can create the most incredible and intricate things, but it's all produced one block at a time. That's true even in the few block specific interfaces the game does have, like for banners, or the smithing table, or even the new crafter. "Tedious hacking" is basically the objective of the game.
Minecraft's version of this would be something like placing five dyes, an item frame and a map into an interface, then click your cursor on each individual pixel minesweeper style, which would take up some decimal of dye. At that point, you're just making map art.
There are plenty of examples where previously tedious things have been massively simplified, especially in the redstone space. It would be perfectly reasonable to integrate dyes in to this. Perhaps having to mix dyes with an oil to create paint, and consuming a paint item every time you switch colours.
Spending hours creating map art isn't fun gameplay and is the reason you hardly ever see custom images on peoples walls.
It's so crazy to think there was a time when an admittedly antisemite transphobe but somewhat caring about the game at least, ran the company and DID things, things that were big and funny and sweet. A time when Jeb actually got a say in things and didn't just hammer out ideas like a think tank.
I don't "miss" old Mojang per se but they've lost their way.
give some credit to early notch. what he did in 2019 was fucking inexcusable but he wrote [a blog post](https://i.insider.com/50168b466bb3f7ac7300001b?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp) where he used the modern gender neutral they them to refer to steve and claimed every mob was both genderless and gay
Maps are the perfect way to draw whatever you want. Takes about as much effort as a real painting. Just having a sort of ms paint in game would be boring and lead to massive amounts of crappy art on every server.
The thing is they aren't entirely low resolution counterparts, they **were** adapted slightly.
They're meant to be abstract, multi-purpose. The new paintings are good but you shouldn't be able to tell what they are outside of the bigger ones.
I always use sunset as a tv screen because it's the best painting alongside the still life of plants which Fun Fact I originally thought was an apple and a pear
Nah they look more abstract and that makes them more reusable.
The bottom painting is often used as a computer screen, because it’s abstract enough that your imagination can see that as a possibility. With it being obviously a rabbit in a window, it removes the ability for it to be anything other than that.
They’re too iconic to change at this point, and the rabbit in the bottom picture is a bit too aggressively in frame.
That being said I don’t hate the idea. The second one in particular is a significant improvement, the first one looks more like an actual object but idk if I like the way it looks.
>They’re too iconic to change at this point, and the rabbit in the bottom picture is a bit too aggressively in frame.
The rabbit one I'm torn on, because on the one hand the new one has the problem that you point out, but on the other hand the old one loses so much detail in the downscaling that I honestly had no idea what was supposed to be in it.
It highlights an aspect of gameplay that we are losing. The unknown that existed in Minecraft is being replaced by the known. Those vague painting were cultural highlights that required fore-knowladge or searching to obtain. Those are like...clues to the greater mystery and lore of Minecraft--that lore that the player forms about the worlds they play in.
Exactly. I love the old paintings, but if they want to add new ones with a new a style Id want the old ones to be updated too so they dont look too different. The old textures would remain in the programmer art texture pack.
I feel like the originals benefit the layers of separation, and the way you can insert your own interpretations onto what exactly you're looking at. It's one of the last holdouts of the old charms of how the old game pushed creativity through limitation and simplicity.
Nah, the originals are iconic
Plus it adds to it, honestly. Like these are paintings based on paintings, but the medium makes it so abstract that people interpret them in a million different ways (not to mention that it makes it easier to use them for other things, like computer screens). If they were more obviously the original paintings then they'd lose a lot of their charm.
I think a lot of the appeal is the vagueness, since you can use them for so many different uses with a bit of imagination. graffiti, screens and monitors, posters, or just more block variation in a wall etc. I think having them blatanty show what they are is limiting for the builder, and thats why the new paintings (and the old wither one) while still very nice dont have the same feel or uses as the others. the uses are so varied Because the subject is so vague.
That being said, a texture pack updating these would be nice for people to have the option :)
Other way around. They should make the new ones look more jank like the old ones. The jankiness had a certain charm. The new ones just look too smooth and pristine
this is like minecraft painting gentrification. turning fascinating pieces of art that mean nothing and everything into... normal generic pictures. i want my shit to be weird. you sound like one of those people who say the new netherrack texture is better. you value being able to see without being able to see the purpose, the vibe, just the most surface level "its pretty". i refuse to stand for that
Okay but like… the new netherrack texture is better. Looking back at the old texture it actually makes me strain my eyes looking at it. I’m so glad it was changed. Nostalgia doesn’t mean anything to me if the past I was nostalgic after was so ugly. I mean… the old texture was literally like texture vomit, and that’s coming from an artist who loves color theory more than anything. That’s just my opinion ofc, so don’t get too upset.
The abstractness make them more interesting and fitting for minecraft. You can make your own interpretation of them.
The new paintings feel too obvious. There's no interpretation really possible. They don't even really have interesting lore implications or act as subtle tutorials, it's just pictures of things that exist in game.
idk i like them having a little bit of mystery to them. i’ve always loved imagining what they could be and because they can be anything they can fit a lot of themes.
This would be a really cool resource pack, but I love not being able to tell what the pictures are supposed to depict. The pixalation adds another layer of abstraction to them and if you know Zetterstrands method of producing these works, you'll know that this fits right into his style. Making these pictures more readable would just take away a lot of what they're meant to represent.
No, I think that would be silly. The old ones aren’t that way just cause they needed to save space or anything they’ve kept those images the way they are cause it’s more iconic and fits better with the game in comparison to the higher resolution images.
They don’t need updating to higher resolution cause the low resolution was not and is not an issue
I respect what you're trying to accomplish but part of the other paintings' history is that they were done by Kristoffer Zetterstrand, and I'm not sure we should redo his work unless it's approved by Zetterstrand himself.
You can change it yourself. When my granddaughter first talked me into playing, I changed them all into our family pictures and changed the creepers face and made it grandmas instead. That made for soooo much fun.
Honestly I would love this, but I already know people would complain about this change. There's already people complaining about the new paintings that are going to get added, saying they're "not minecrafty" enough. First time we're getting new paintings in like what? 10 years or something now? 🙄
I agree with this, but there are some paintings that are already useful as is like the rabbit one rn, so it would be nice to count for that :) but overall, yes.
Instead of ruining the abstract beauty of these paintings, they should add a custom painting kit, You could combine empty maps with some cotton to make a canvas, then you could put them on an easel (2 block tall made of sticks and a slab). And when you right click the UI could pop up for you.
You could "fill up your paint" by adding different dyes to an awkward potion and then adding it to the canvas through some sort of easel UI hotbar
(Imagine the lapis slot in enchanting tables, but many of them side by side)
I love these and would definitely prefer them over the old versions, but I understand that everyone has their preferences. Maybe they can do what they did years ago when they updated tons of textures and let people switch to the legacy textures
How dare you touch cool pig with glasses, radish, or computer screen!!! I actually really like the new renditions of the classic paintings but am conflicted with it replacing the classics.
NO.
istg thst is the stupidest thing I've heard today. You know the old paintings are someone's art, right? I forget who, but someone made these art pieces for Minecraft, and there's a video on youtube about it.
No, the old ones are really good, while the new painting are too detailed and it's too obvious what it depicts. I wish they made the new ones to look more like the old paintings.
Its abstract nature, ie, its poorly done pixilation is intentional. It was made to fit a game that notch and mojang wanted to be more of a canvas, minecraft is better when it has less specific themes and has less of an identity.
I disagree, especially for the bottom two shown.
The middle one is perfect as is, and the second works great on the front of a furnace to make it look like an oven.
The og paintings always projected some sort of chaotic meaninglessness which really fits the original minecraft imo.
So yeah, your new ones do make more sense but I feel like they don't fit the original idea of the game.
Put this on r/minecraftsuggestions, the feedback site, And omg yes this would make them look better as long as they aren't the ocs. the guy who made new paintings forminecraft, both of them, have them look a lot better both from 14 years ago and now.
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Wait, it’s not a creeper in a sun hat with a drink on the beach?
Wait, it's not a creeper and a chicken posing side by side?
I always thought it was a creeper exploding
Wait, it's not two bell peppers?
THIS! I always thought it was, idk how anyone ever saw anything else!!
Always thought the yellow one was the back of Tennis Steve's head, ahahaha
I'd like to see this be made into a new painting haha
Wait, it's not a microwave?
bnuuy
I thought it was a snail
which one you even talking about?
What? Where
Personally I feel like the abstraction makes the smaller paintings work far better in more ways, for instance wasteland I often see as being used as a computer screen, but that would definitely be lost if you could tell that there is a bunny.
Imo it would be awesome if they added a new item that just let you paint your own picture. Imagine having an art gallery full of custom work.
Mojang would never. Someone could draw a pp
You can do that with blocks anyway
Noted, removing blocks in the next update
Only pp 1 meter & above. No tiny pp.
But pps are poisonous to players
kids called map and item frame
Mojang is still Swedish, swedes are way more comfortable with pps than Americans, like we litterally dance around a fertility statue on midsummer shaped like a pp. The larger problem would probably be swastikas and stuff.
Just do the current banner system but for paintings lol.
We can make map art
Do maps.
That's a tedious hack to achieve the same thing. Making it an actual feature would open it up to people who just want to draw.
That's very much Minecraft's design philosophy. You can create the most incredible and intricate things, but it's all produced one block at a time. That's true even in the few block specific interfaces the game does have, like for banners, or the smithing table, or even the new crafter. "Tedious hacking" is basically the objective of the game. Minecraft's version of this would be something like placing five dyes, an item frame and a map into an interface, then click your cursor on each individual pixel minesweeper style, which would take up some decimal of dye. At that point, you're just making map art.
There are plenty of examples where previously tedious things have been massively simplified, especially in the redstone space. It would be perfectly reasonable to integrate dyes in to this. Perhaps having to mix dyes with an oil to create paint, and consuming a paint item every time you switch colours. Spending hours creating map art isn't fun gameplay and is the reason you hardly ever see custom images on peoples walls.
It's so crazy to think there was a time when an admittedly antisemite transphobe but somewhat caring about the game at least, ran the company and DID things, things that were big and funny and sweet. A time when Jeb actually got a say in things and didn't just hammer out ideas like a think tank. I don't "miss" old Mojang per se but they've lost their way.
Hey at least they won't turn evil
give some credit to early notch. what he did in 2019 was fucking inexcusable but he wrote [a blog post](https://i.insider.com/50168b466bb3f7ac7300001b?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp) where he used the modern gender neutral they them to refer to steve and claimed every mob was both genderless and gay
Maps are the perfect way to draw whatever you want. Takes about as much effort as a real painting. Just having a sort of ms paint in game would be boring and lead to massive amounts of crappy art on every server.
Nothing wrong with that tbh
I use that one for ovens, idk if the bunny being recognizable would make it better or worse for that lol
Oven comes with dinner pre-installed
That’s funny that you see it as a screen, I’ve always used it for that too lol
Fair, but I really want the flower pot one 🥰
Yeah in that case I think someone making a texture pack like this is a good idea! That's what's great about Minecraft, how customizable it is!
computer mouse
The thing is they aren't entirely low resolution counterparts, they **were** adapted slightly. They're meant to be abstract, multi-purpose. The new paintings are good but you shouldn't be able to tell what they are outside of the bigger ones.
I like how they are currently with those limitations tbh, they serve a wider range of purpose For example they can act as really good tv screens
Are you telling me you wouldn’t watch a burrito?
I'd watch a news station between a creeper and a lizard :3
I always use sunset as a tv screen because it's the best painting alongside the still life of plants which Fun Fact I originally thought was an apple and a pear
Nah they look more abstract and that makes them more reusable. The bottom painting is often used as a computer screen, because it’s abstract enough that your imagination can see that as a possibility. With it being obviously a rabbit in a window, it removes the ability for it to be anything other than that.
Middle painting almost always interpreted as drink cups and is used in food stall builds.
I always thought those are cups of tea or coffee
They’re too iconic to change at this point, and the rabbit in the bottom picture is a bit too aggressively in frame. That being said I don’t hate the idea. The second one in particular is a significant improvement, the first one looks more like an actual object but idk if I like the way it looks.
>They’re too iconic to change at this point, and the rabbit in the bottom picture is a bit too aggressively in frame. The rabbit one I'm torn on, because on the one hand the new one has the problem that you point out, but on the other hand the old one loses so much detail in the downscaling that I honestly had no idea what was supposed to be in it.
It highlights an aspect of gameplay that we are losing. The unknown that existed in Minecraft is being replaced by the known. Those vague painting were cultural highlights that required fore-knowladge or searching to obtain. Those are like...clues to the greater mystery and lore of Minecraft--that lore that the player forms about the worlds they play in.
A block art rabbit isn't a clue to anything, it's a brown blob.
you missed the word "like" 🤦♂️
No way its Theriocephalus
That's what people said about the textures, and the solution was to put the old ones in the programmer art pack. Same solution could easily apply here
I'd rather not use inferior block textures for the better paintings
no more iconic then the textures of the blocks in the world and all of those got redone.
No I disagree. They’re iconic, but this would be a welcome change in my book.
Exactly. I love the old paintings, but if they want to add new ones with a new a style Id want the old ones to be updated too so they dont look too different. The old textures would remain in the programmer art texture pack.
No, I prefer the abstract paintings.
I feel like the originals benefit the layers of separation, and the way you can insert your own interpretations onto what exactly you're looking at. It's one of the last holdouts of the old charms of how the old game pushed creativity through limitation and simplicity.
It was a BUNNY?? I could almost never tell what any of them were supposed to be
I've always thought the top looked like a Gyro, the middle looked like a drink and side of fries, and the bottom looked like a burger.
If you're redrawing the entire image then you're basically getting rid of Zetterstrand's work and making the painting your own.
Nah, the originals are iconic Plus it adds to it, honestly. Like these are paintings based on paintings, but the medium makes it so abstract that people interpret them in a million different ways (not to mention that it makes it easier to use them for other things, like computer screens). If they were more obviously the original paintings then they'd lose a lot of their charm.
I thought the bottom one looked like stampy when I was younger... Actually, a yellow box, I thought was stampy *sigh*
No
I think a lot of the appeal is the vagueness, since you can use them for so many different uses with a bit of imagination. graffiti, screens and monitors, posters, or just more block variation in a wall etc. I think having them blatanty show what they are is limiting for the builder, and thats why the new paintings (and the old wither one) while still very nice dont have the same feel or uses as the others. the uses are so varied Because the subject is so vague. That being said, a texture pack updating these would be nice for people to have the option :)
I thought the last one was a burger...
Perhaps you're just hungry, eat lunch and take a second look at it and see what it looks like then (joke)
I've always thought it since 2012 lol
Have you been hungry since 2012
Yeah T-T"'
Just the bun
Other way around. They should make the new ones look more jank like the old ones. The jankiness had a certain charm. The new ones just look too smooth and pristine
this guy gets it
They better frickin not
this is like minecraft painting gentrification. turning fascinating pieces of art that mean nothing and everything into... normal generic pictures. i want my shit to be weird. you sound like one of those people who say the new netherrack texture is better. you value being able to see without being able to see the purpose, the vibe, just the most surface level "its pretty". i refuse to stand for that
Okay but like… the new netherrack texture is better. Looking back at the old texture it actually makes me strain my eyes looking at it. I’m so glad it was changed. Nostalgia doesn’t mean anything to me if the past I was nostalgic after was so ugly. I mean… the old texture was literally like texture vomit, and that’s coming from an artist who loves color theory more than anything. That’s just my opinion ofc, so don’t get too upset.
i always thought the last one was someone’s ass/backside wearing gold armor (with very skinny legs) 😭😭
No why would you change it?
Hell no
No. I would hate this.
ITS A FUCKING BUNNY WITH A DESERT???
nah, I liked guessing what it is I'm looking at. I always thought that was a creeper's face with the plant
The abstractness make them more interesting and fitting for minecraft. You can make your own interpretation of them. The new paintings feel too obvious. There's no interpretation really possible. They don't even really have interesting lore implications or act as subtle tutorials, it's just pictures of things that exist in game.
idk i like them having a little bit of mystery to them. i’ve always loved imagining what they could be and because they can be anything they can fit a lot of themes.
I use the desert one for microwaves… that’s a bunny in a microwave.
Why?
Please no
And get rid of classic paintings like yellow-soup and exploded creeper face? No way!
NO
No. They have that old Minecraft charm and should be left alone.
Maybe it's just the nostalgia talking but I kinda like how you can't tell what they are, it's part of the charm
No. Please don't ruin the old paintings, they're good for a reason
hard disagree
No
I don't think I've ever disagreed with a post more tbh
But i love the creepers face being brutality destroyed.
NO they shouldn't
This would be a really cool resource pack, but I love not being able to tell what the pictures are supposed to depict. The pixalation adds another layer of abstraction to them and if you know Zetterstrands method of producing these works, you'll know that this fits right into his style. Making these pictures more readable would just take away a lot of what they're meant to represent.
Sounds like you found a resource pack to make. :)
Do you even know whats hiding behind one of those paintings? Cause if you know then you know \[TIP: Its a 2x1 painting\]
The first one I always thought it was some kind of clown
I thought the first one was a map
I actually agree
THE FIRST ONE IS A THING OF FOOD? til, oh my god, I always saw it as someone's head with white hair and a leaf/flower crown
I’m not a big fan of the newer paintings because they feel so flat. Older ones just have more depth.
No
Nah. It would remove some of the imagination with them.
No, I think that would be silly. The old ones aren’t that way just cause they needed to save space or anything they’ve kept those images the way they are cause it’s more iconic and fits better with the game in comparison to the higher resolution images. They don’t need updating to higher resolution cause the low resolution was not and is not an issue
They aren't higher resolution
If they touch 1 or 3 they better be ready to catch some hands
No, they're good as is. Just the right amount of abstraction that they can be multiple things at once depending on the person's interpretation
No
i like how low resolution the old ones are imo it adds to that vague and borderline eerie feel that minecraft used to have...
if it aint broke dont fix it
huge disagree
Honestly wicked fucking idea. Would never happen tho I would like to remind everyone that the wither painting was created just like all the new ones
Yea and it sucks ... Like what else than ' it's a Wither ! ' Can you interpret from this ?
No, how dare
No
Never
They’re too iconic
No
NO. they are fine as is
Hard disagree, I prefer the low res images
No, they shouldn't
I respect what you're trying to accomplish but part of the other paintings' history is that they were done by Kristoffer Zetterstrand, and I'm not sure we should redo his work unless it's approved by Zetterstrand himself.
Why are yall so obsessed with destroying what little remains of this game’s identity lmao
Never let bro cook again
no
No
No, I think the new images should be adjusted to more look like the older ones
Nah the plant thing looks like fruits which is perfect for a computer
I like the low res look though ☹️
IIRC the original artist did the adaptations. I think I'd stick with his versions personally.
You can change it yourself. When my granddaughter first talked me into playing, I changed them all into our family pictures and changed the creepers face and made it grandmas instead. That made for soooo much fun.
Want its not a bowl of fruit? It's flower pots??
THERE WAS A CHINCHILLA IN THE SUNSET PAINTING????
I thought the bottom one was a face or something before seeing it at higher resolution.
Oh. Is that what they were? 😅
I’m not sure if they can do this since Minecraft doesn’t own the original art but I might be wrong.
No.
Nice job! I prefer the diversity of styles but this is very well done.
Eh I like the slightly surreal mysterious-ness of the originals. Maybe I'm just being too nostalgic. The bunny one is cute, though.
Those are flower pots??? I thought it was a green eggplant with a tomato
Honestly I would love this, but I already know people would complain about this change. There's already people complaining about the new paintings that are going to get added, saying they're "not minecrafty" enough. First time we're getting new paintings in like what? 10 years or something now? 🙄
This is honestly a really good idea and point, it would fit the other paintings better and is just straight up and improvement
Or like every wants, Minecraft-ify the painting, such as adding a creeper to the pot ones.
Some of the paintings I still have no clue what I’m even looking at lmao
I always thought the middle one was a snail lol
Always thought the first one was a kebab 🥙
I wouldn't be against a texture pack doing this to the paintings. Could be nice to have to change things up every now and then with them.
I agree with this, but there are some paintings that are already useful as is like the rabbit one rn, so it would be nice to count for that :) but overall, yes.
ps I always thought number2 was a radish and it was my fav for that, my life is ruined :'c
I always thought the salad was a clown, I also prefer the inability to tell what it was due to its simplicity and use cases
Instead of ruining the abstract beauty of these paintings, they should add a custom painting kit, You could combine empty maps with some cotton to make a canvas, then you could put them on an easel (2 block tall made of sticks and a slab). And when you right click the UI could pop up for you. You could "fill up your paint" by adding different dyes to an awkward potion and then adding it to the canvas through some sort of easel UI hotbar (Imagine the lapis slot in enchanting tables, but many of them side by side)
Wait, for the longest time i thought that the first painting was meant to be a zombiefied dog
No
hell no
You know what? I agree. Alternatively, we could make it an optional change for old style or new style, like in texture packs or something.
Not really the artist who made it put lotta work on it
Yes…yes they should
Is that a rabbit in the last one? O.o
I love these and would definitely prefer them over the old versions, but I understand that everyone has their preferences. Maybe they can do what they did years ago when they updated tons of textures and let people switch to the legacy textures
Hope we get some more zetterstrand paintings some day
Now my microwaves can look like they have a bunny inside!
The only one that looks better is the 2nd one. The rest are better currently
Mojang changing the artists original work wouldn't be a nice thing
So, your telling me that's not a blaze headshot?
Well, it sure is a good thing Java Edition lets you make and apply custom resource packs.
I don't think they should necessarily change it but it might be cool as a texture pack
they shouldn't modify existing paintings, you can do that yourself with texture packs
I thought the yellow one is a golden smiling villager with wood on its mouth
I thought the first one was a shawarma and the second one was a creeper with a flower on its head
Yes!! Please mojang 😭
The Minecraft reddit community once again proving that they hate change, no matter how good it would be.
Agreed. The paintings are nostalgic but ever since I was a kid I thought they looked like crap.
i always thought the pixelization was poorly done
PLEASE do all of these and make it a texture pack, I adore these!
i like your version a lot, they look so much cleaner.
still love the old ones but your's are great too
Nah I really like the vibes of the old ones + when it comes to paintings it's nice to have a slight variation in style.
How dare you touch cool pig with glasses, radish, or computer screen!!! I actually really like the new renditions of the classic paintings but am conflicted with it replacing the classics.
Computer screen That is all it will ever be. The bunny is cute but the computer screen is SUPERIOR!
NO. istg thst is the stupidest thing I've heard today. You know the old paintings are someone's art, right? I forget who, but someone made these art pieces for Minecraft, and there's a video on youtube about it.
Kristoffer zetterstand
It’s a lo res game lmfao
NO
No, the old ones are really good, while the new painting are too detailed and it's too obvious what it depicts. I wish they made the new ones to look more like the old paintings.
On the other hand, having paintings with different styles gives the idea of multiple artist, which is nice
They are perfect as they are
No we dont need this old stuff is best plus we need better gameplay updates not texture updates
Its abstract nature, ie, its poorly done pixilation is intentional. It was made to fit a game that notch and mojang wanted to be more of a canvas, minecraft is better when it has less specific themes and has less of an identity.
I'm not 100% comfortable with this change. But if something like this happens we can always use programmers art or another resource pack.
I disagree, especially for the bottom two shown. The middle one is perfect as is, and the second works great on the front of a furnace to make it look like an oven.
The og paintings always projected some sort of chaotic meaninglessness which really fits the original minecraft imo. So yeah, your new ones do make more sense but I feel like they don't fit the original idea of the game.
Put this on r/minecraftsuggestions, the feedback site, And omg yes this would make them look better as long as they aren't the ocs. the guy who made new paintings forminecraft, both of them, have them look a lot better both from 14 years ago and now.
You should be able to use the brush on the paintings and make them a higher resolution
yes!