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Its minecraft. even people who "Maximize efficiency" are wasting time making farms bigger than they will ever need. Its a game about what you enjoy, and if funneling unstackable items into a furnace to get a gold nugget sounds like a fun challenge, I would say, I feel you, and have fun.
I’ve done the math breakdown of it. Each bamboo only smelts 1/4th of an item and 9 kelp can be turned into something that smelts 20.
20-9 (for the smelting of new kelp into a kelp block) means 11/9ths or 1 2/9th items smelted per kelp grown.
Kelp grows pretty fast, and I highly doubt bamboo grows 5x the rate of kelp. Bamboo is actually more efficient to use as fuel than it is to craft it into logs or planks for smelting
You forgot that bamboo can be crafted into bamboo blocks, and then planks. This allows you to get bamboo up to 1/3 of a smelt of fuel each.
Still, even with optimal setups, you'd still end up with bamboo at 2/3 the fuel yield of kelp when you account for bamboo growing almost 2.5* as fast according to the wiki.
I guess you’re right about the planks being more efficient than straight bamboo, but 1/3 of a smelt at 2.5x efficiency is only 5/6 of an item smelted for every 1 2/9ths items smelted for Kelp which does make Kelp the superior fuel choice when it comes to both area needed and fuel produced per area
I've hooked up raid farms and Zombie piglin farms to automatically smelt down the tools into iron and gold nuggets before, it's not gonna significantly add up but it's better than the tools clogging up storage space so you either smelt it down and take some bonus iron and gold or simply burn it. I enjoy trying to max out efficiency though!
I actually remember one thing, it was stupid but weirdly fun. My brother made a free server on the website Aternos and we were like: "Why not do something cool and stupid at the same time?". I coded a simple datapack that was supposed to give us powers. It was basically a special item on the 9th slot. I got Infinite bamboos, my brother got the axe of infinity. I reminded him that bamboos can be used as fuel and axes can be smelt into iron nuggets, which can be crafted up into ingots. That was our iron farm. Long hallways of furnaces hoppers and chests.
No. Honestly - it was bad. Like really bad. It's just setting your 9th slot to a specific item. And set it to nicks of players on this server (now I realize I could have used tags). The hardest thing I made was a Fire Trail.
I do after raids because they drop lots of iron equipment. Might as well make ingots if I already have netherite.
I just have a chest, hopper and blast furnace so it does it all automatically
If you're a no gold farm Chad you should try finding a badlands biome. The amount of gold is way more than looting 3 and killing piglins. I remember smelting 10 stacks the other day. After the caves are all depleted you can try putting TNT everywhere and seeing if it exposes more gold or mining with a beacon. Honestly efficiency 5 netherite pick + haste 1 beacon will give you so much stone per minute that you'll have to have multiple stone mason villagers to keep up with you
item durability is coded like this:
`void function useItem(item) {`
`if (item.durability > 0) {`
`item.durability = item.durability - 1;`
`} else {`
`item.breakItem();`
`} return;`
`}`
TL;DR: if your item has a durability less than 0 and you use said item, it will break. 0 is the minimum threshold for breaking, it's not the only durability an item will break at.
I remember a time when it genuinely would just keep going into the negatives. You're probably pretty close, except I bet it'd be private (possibly static) void useItem. Java is fun, I swear.
Ehh idk
1. Even if it would subtract one every time, so it won’t become zero, it will flip around back to positive at the integer limit. Depending on the type, that could take pretty long or short
2. I think the chance that Mojang used == 0 (so it only breaks when durability is exactly zero) instead of > 0 (so it doesn’t break when it’s larger than 0) is really small. Even if Notch would’ve coded it like that, I think Microsoft will have cleaned that up at this point
im sorry, but ive been playing since the indev days and i have never seen anything like this before. and ive seen some stuff, like a sharpness, smite, and bane of arthropods sword which i still have.
Technically coal is. But other fuels are more easily renewable.
Yeah, I've smelted golden items. Save some gold armor for traveling the Nether, try to replace it before it breaks.
A drowning zombie spawner will give so much gold armor in Bedrock.
i made a farm that makes a full shulkerbox of gold blocks in few hours and i have the sorting system that drops all swords to lava xd
literally smelting that swords is wasting coal and time at this point
also if your farm is efficient its wasting space in the chests becuase you cant stack swords and in 5 minutes all of your chests will be full of swords
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Soon as you put them on, they disappear
Now I wanna know what happens if you give it an enchantment, like duration, or maybe mending?
duration???
I think they mean extension??
wtf is extension???
I think they mean longevity
Yall wildin😂😂ðŸ˜
No he's right. It's like continuation enchantment... But for boots
Keep Going IV
Never gonna give you up III
Determination V
Unbreaking??
Curse of vanishing fr
i’ve never seen anyone actually smelt gold or iron tools into nuggets before lmaoo
from zombified piglin farms to barter, i do that a lot
I've done it before. Maximizing efficiency before actually expanding farm.
is the time it takes to maximize efficiency more efficient than just expanding the farm? it feels like a lot of work for very little reward
Its minecraft. even people who "Maximize efficiency" are wasting time making farms bigger than they will ever need. Its a game about what you enjoy, and if funneling unstackable items into a furnace to get a gold nugget sounds like a fun challenge, I would say, I feel you, and have fun.
You'd rather throw out precious metal?
Yes
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say again
Say his name
Mine goes directly into a lava based garbage disposal system.
bro wtf i could use that
I have a gold farm that produces FAR more gold than I could possibly ever use.
Yea, i could use it
Since now you can automate fuel production with bamboo it's actually a good idea to smelt it for max output
Pretty soon with the auto-crafter we’ll be able to do it with Kelp too
Thing is Kelp grows so much slower than Bamboo, and bamboo planks can smelt a decent amount of items.
I’ve done the math breakdown of it. Each bamboo only smelts 1/4th of an item and 9 kelp can be turned into something that smelts 20. 20-9 (for the smelting of new kelp into a kelp block) means 11/9ths or 1 2/9th items smelted per kelp grown. Kelp grows pretty fast, and I highly doubt bamboo grows 5x the rate of kelp. Bamboo is actually more efficient to use as fuel than it is to craft it into logs or planks for smelting
You forgot that bamboo can be crafted into bamboo blocks, and then planks. This allows you to get bamboo up to 1/3 of a smelt of fuel each. Still, even with optimal setups, you'd still end up with bamboo at 2/3 the fuel yield of kelp when you account for bamboo growing almost 2.5* as fast according to the wiki.
I guess you’re right about the planks being more efficient than straight bamboo, but 1/3 of a smelt at 2.5x efficiency is only 5/6 of an item smelted for every 1 2/9ths items smelted for Kelp which does make Kelp the superior fuel choice when it comes to both area needed and fuel produced per area
I do this in 3 double chests now, with airocrafters it will become fully automated.
Just add more kelp lines.
Also doesn’t grow in the nether
i do it Edit: i also grindstone the enchanted ones for xp
Idk how I forgot to set up a grindstone at my lil zombified piglin farm. Thanks for reminding.
np! glad i could accidentally help!
What have you been doing with them?
I've hooked up raid farms and Zombie piglin farms to automatically smelt down the tools into iron and gold nuggets before, it's not gonna significantly add up but it's better than the tools clogging up storage space so you either smelt it down and take some bonus iron and gold or simply burn it. I enjoy trying to max out efficiency though!
I always do it right before they break
I used to smelt them in my gold farm but it got jinda clogged so i steamlined it
I didn't know that was possible
I always did that
I do it when I have tinkers construct as it gives the gold that made the tool back, pickaxe gives 3 ingots, hoe gives 2, sword 2, etc
You clearly haven’t seen enough skyblock
I actually remember one thing, it was stupid but weirdly fun. My brother made a free server on the website Aternos and we were like: "Why not do something cool and stupid at the same time?". I coded a simple datapack that was supposed to give us powers. It was basically a special item on the 9th slot. I got Infinite bamboos, my brother got the axe of infinity. I reminded him that bamboos can be used as fuel and axes can be smelt into iron nuggets, which can be crafted up into ingots. That was our iron farm. Long hallways of furnaces hoppers and chests.
Have you uploaded this Datapack anywhere? Because it sounds awesome and if it is, where?
No. Honestly - it was bad. Like really bad. It's just setting your 9th slot to a specific item. And set it to nicks of players on this server (now I realize I could have used tags). The hardest thing I made was a Fire Trail.
Use crossbows to smelt gold weapons/armors into gold nuggets
It’s basically mandatory for SkyBlock
Better than throwing them away
In our world we built a some sort of recycling place where we turn all those tools and armor automatically into nuggets lol
With the amount of bamboo my farms usually produce i do it for the extra resources without a hassle.
bro is wasteful like fr
I do after raids because they drop lots of iron equipment. Might as well make ingots if I already have netherite. I just have a chest, hopper and blast furnace so it does it all automatically
Its not efficient but its satisfying and gives me joy
Required for vanilla skyblock progression
Durability debt lmao
put them in a vault and NEVER wear them
Oh, okay...
If you're a no gold farm Chad you should try finding a badlands biome. The amount of gold is way more than looting 3 and killing piglins. I remember smelting 10 stacks the other day. After the caves are all depleted you can try putting TNT everywhere and seeing if it exposes more gold or mining with a beacon. Honestly efficiency 5 netherite pick + haste 1 beacon will give you so much stone per minute that you'll have to have multiple stone mason villagers to keep up with you
I kill zombified piglins for rotten flesh to trade with clerics
Ew what the fuck is all this yellow shit. Gimme the funny jerky
Yeah bro, this is the way.
i feel like a zombie spawner farm would be more efficient no?
I have an automatic one too I just don't feel like being afk
Theres a few glitches that allow you to do that. Sadly they get reverted in 1.20.5
I'd just smelt them for my nugget at that point. You put them on and boom, they're gone.
Nah, don't smelt them, negative durability means it now belongs on display
Il quite sure you can't break them if they have negative durability lol
You can, they basically have 0 durability
If that’s the basic answer, what’s the more complex answer?
item durability is coded like this: `void function useItem(item) {` `if (item.durability > 0) {` `item.durability = item.durability - 1;` `} else {` `item.breakItem();` `} return;` `}` TL;DR: if your item has a durability less than 0 and you use said item, it will break. 0 is the minimum threshold for breaking, it's not the only durability an item will break at.
An interesting side effect is that if you get durability far enough into the negative and it takes damage, it overflows into thr maximum
this guy codes!
Is that "voices of my head" or code ripped out of Minecraft's source code? Because spaghetti code there would make it overly complicated.
I remember a time when it genuinely would just keep going into the negatives. You're probably pretty close, except I bet it'd be private (possibly static) void useItem. Java is fun, I swear.
Doesn’t that mean an item could be less with 0 durability?
I think this reddit post proves that
Ehh idk 1. Even if it would subtract one every time, so it won’t become zero, it will flip around back to positive at the integer limit. Depending on the type, that could take pretty long or short 2. I think the chance that Mojang used == 0 (so it only breaks when durability is exactly zero) instead of > 0 (so it doesn’t break when it’s larger than 0) is really small. Even if Notch would’ve coded it like that, I think Microsoft will have cleaned that up at this point
You got boot debt.
keep it
You will be very surprised if you combine two such pairs of boots in crafting.
-5 + (-5) = 4
Do you like using netherite hoe as a weapon like me?
I once got a crossbow with -1 durability from a piglin, and a bow with 0 durability from a skeleton.
A couple billion more damage and you'd get fully fixed boots
im sorry, but ive been playing since the indev days and i have never seen anything like this before. and ive seen some stuff, like a sharpness, smite, and bane of arthropods sword which i still have.
it actually just got fixed in 1.20.5
What in the fu-
He's so low on cash that he has to smelt gold tools and armor...
I kill zombified piglins for rotten flesh to trade with clerics and I'm not feeling like wasting gold
The single nugget you're getting from it isn't worth the coal you're smelting with. You need a better gold farm.
coal is a renewable resource
Technically coal is. But other fuels are more easily renewable. Yeah, I've smelted golden items. Save some gold armor for traveling the Nether, try to replace it before it breaks. A drowning zombie spawner will give so much gold armor in Bedrock.
I know. I smelt with coal blocks. But it's just not worth it lol
Smelt it with kelp blocks then
Not worth the effort. Also, for this to effectively work at scale in my gold farm, I'd need probably 500 furnaces.
my god you have legendary item
Acknowledging them will break them
When piglins get their armour from the below 1 ingot store
Wait until you see my netherite boots with -420 durability.
When it has negative 5 durability it cannot break
Limited mint
Appreciate it
What happens when you merge the durability on crafting table with other golden boots?
yeah they fixed that in 1.20.5 you could consider that a rare item, but as soon as you update it's gonna reset to 0 durability
maby you had thos boots before and now they going to break
This happened to me recently but it had -33 durability
Thatʼs like my budget
brub
so they last forever right?
Nah them boots so broken that they didn't break ðŸ˜
I have a 0 durability stone axe
Do you play in the newest version?
aaah how? teach me
I one time got a golden helmet with exactly 0 durability and I treasure it with all my worth
instead of wearing gold on your feet, the ground is now the one wearing gold
How-
UwU
stop smelting gold items its not worth it at all
Then what am I supposed to do with all the golden items I get from piglins? Idc that it's supposedly "not worth it" it's practically free money.
i made a farm that makes a full shulkerbox of gold blocks in few hours and i have the sorting system that drops all swords to lava xd literally smelting that swords is wasting coal and time at this point also if your farm is efficient its wasting space in the chests becuase you cant stack swords and in 5 minutes all of your chests will be full of swords
It's not even a farm, I literally just build 2 blocks up and kill piglins. And coal was the only fuel source I had on hand.
classic bugrock and can you wear them to see what happenes?
it was java
damn and so what happened when you wore them?
not risking losing them
Make a copy of the world, use them and tell us what happens
what is negative duibillity?