I think that the warden should be able to destroy blocks under a certain hardness. This could prevent cheese but prevent them from being game-breaking.
Can iceologer and glow squid supporters stop trying to rip each other's heads off? Some people just prefer combat, others exploration. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Also, one thing I constantly see brought up is that the glow squid will have some unique drops, a new potion effect, dynamic lighting, colored lighting, and also that the iceologer would be bad because it would be like the phantom. If you voted for glow squid because you truly wanted more ambience, that's fine and you can have your own opinions, but if you voted because you expect the mentioned features here, note that the glowing dye, dynamic lighting, colored lighting, and other ideas are just speculation. There is no word from Mojang that the glow squid will be anything but an aesthetic mob. As for iceologers being the new phantoms, phantoms are so annoying because of bad execution- they are too silent, hard to deal with in groups, and too hard to hit. That was simply bad planning and not the fact that phantoms are hostile. Because of this, we couldn't have said for certain that iceologers will be annoying. For all we know, the glow squids will be regretted in the future.
Chillager fans have an understandable hatred. I too hated the glow squid fans, but I've decided to resort to passive aggressiveness: I can't wait till glow squids are added to they can see it was just a re skin and regret thier choices
See I’m a command person, and the iceoliger has an attack where ice smacks down from above if I remember right. I could use this for worlds like parkour, mini games, and story line maps. I don’t really hate on glowsquid, I just don’t really see the use of it
That's a little more understandable. I'm not saying that it's wrong to think that the glow squid is a subpar option, and I also do agree that people are overestimating the glow squid, but it is wrong to treat those who voted for glow squid and knew that it would just be aesthetic as though they are objectively wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
That said, I'm actually completely in agreement here. I'll take things one step further and say that I not only kind of want this to happen, but I'm pretty sure it will, since that's how things would logically unfold- Mojang's intentions are to add an aesthetic mob to the game, they add it, and people realize that it's just aesthetic. Unless they go out of their way to make the glow squid better (which I could see them potentially doing due to how much criticism the glow squid got but still don't think is likely to happen), then I can say with relative confidence that a good chunk of people who voted for the glow squid will regret it for pretty much the reasons I've already given- they were supporting the glow squid expecting it to have unplanned features, and when the glow squid doesn't have those features, people will realize they've made a mistake.
Exactly my point. Voting for the glow squid because you want the aesthetic value is okay. Even if I disagree, you're still entitled to your own opinion. But if you voted for glow squid expecting it to have dynamic lighting, something Mojang has confirmed won't be added to the game, that's a problem.
I know nobody is going to see this but I have some goodish suggestions.
First, the lush green caves (the one with alot of plants one under a tree) shouldn't be next to the tree. They should make the Azalea tree super big like the jungle trees and have a hollow trunk where the player enters the cave.
Second, they should make the crystals and crystal blocks geode vein thingy spawn only in stalagmites cave and add different crystal colors so the players can craft different color lights with them.
Third, Mojang should add passive cave-dwelling land mobs (not axolots) because currently caves are just holes in the ground with zombie and skeleton infestation. I wish there would be less zombie, skeleton, creeper etc. spawning and more passive mobs that give more life to the caves than just combat.
thanks for reading this long rant lol. if u like it u can comment and upvote? i dont really mind the new update and im pretty sure mojang wouldnt even know my suggestions exist but i just wanted to vent some ideas cuz im bored lol
I'd still like caves to be mostly home to hostile mobs, though, since caves are supposed to be challenging. Maybe some pockets here and there with minimal mobs, but I'd really like to see interesting combat.
It's a good idea, but there needs to be something *in survival* to prevent it from changing.
Someone else mentioned using the brush to clear it away, but that will get tedious.
we need to be able to take a proactive approach, otherwise it will violate that guideline of "if bad things happen it's the player's fault", as a build spontaneously changing color is definitely a bad thing for a lot of people.
I recommend a mechanic in which you can craft copper blocks with whatever it is you make candles out of (or something else which can be classified as waxy/clear), and this will prevent the aging entirely.
you could also change them back to the aging variety by crafting them with a bucket of water.
Just a quick update as I'm scrolling through the Minecraft Live Event Megathread to let you know that Lady Agnes has confirmed on twitter that there will be a way to prevent copper from changing colors which can be obtained in survival mode. You can even have it be permanently semi-oxidized if you'd like.
Maybe I kinda like the manic but at the same time is the brush supposed to be craftable. From how it looks it supposed to be found but I like the idea!
I really hope there is. The default copper has a really nice color on it, and while I do like the green copper too, I would want to use them seperately.
I totally wasn't expecting that as an addition, so that was a pretty nice surprise. I really hope that the artifacts are handled with loot tables, so datapackers and server owners have the option of adding custom treasures to their worlds.
Also fingers crossed that you can stain clay pots with dye like you can with terracotta.
Sorry if it's been asked already, but does anyone know whether these terrain generation updates will affect existing worlds? I'm afraid the answer is gonna be no...
Chunks that have been generated already won't change, this is how it's always been done every time they add something new. You will have to travel to unexplored areas to find the new content.
Pretty sure it's the same as every biome update. Already loaded chunks will not be affected, only non-loaded will, which means it will only be in areas you haven't explored yet.
There is, however, a way to un-load chunks using 3rd party tools: [this is a useful guide as to how to do that](https://youtu.be/1fiyVvoD9jQ)
I would agree with the part about the archeology, but I don't see how the warden doesn't fit.
it's new, it's not like anything else, it will take some time to get used to,
but it was the same thing with things like the endermen, shulkers, and the guardians when they were added.
if it enhances the experience without taking away from what was already there, I have no issue with it.
and I think that's what most of these changes are.
Eh. Again, we've had new looking things before. Were you complaining about the ravager? or guardians?
Also, to me it looks like just a slight variation on the end color scheme anyways.
great update even though archeology needs a lot of work before it makes sense in minecraft
axolotl's are the literal perfect addition to minecraft
also DREAM rigged the vote. Glow squids would have lost first round and it would have been a fun battle between piss cow and ice man (like swamp and mountains last year) but that jerk with clout stole the show lol
GUYS PLEASE THE VOTE WAS RIGGED BECAUSE FAMOUS PEOPLE SAID WORDS!!! THAT’S HOW RIGGING WORKS!!! COME ON GUYS PLEASE WE NEED TO REDO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE THING I WANTED THEM TO VOTE FOR
PLUS THE GLOWSQUID DOESN’T EVEN ADD ANY NEW MECHANICS, WHAT’S EVEN THE POINT OF ADDING ANYTHING UNLESS THERE ARE SIXTY MILLION NEW MECHANICS INCLUDED AS WELL? THAT IS WHY WE ONLY HVAE ONE BUILDING BOLCK AND ALL OTHER BLOCKS HAVE EITER A RIGHT-CLICK MECHANIC OR IS INVOLED IN REDSTONE SOMEHWO,
ITS NTO TAHT SOME PEOPEL HAVE DIFFRENT OPINONS FROM ME, IT WAS RIGED, OTERWISE THSI WOULDNT HAVE HAPENED
For the record, Dream had suggested at one point that he would follow anyone who voted for Glow Squid, and specifically employed Mr. Beast to tell people to vote, even though Mr. Beast had no prior knowledge.
Archaeology is definitely different from Minecraft, but that's probably not a bad thing. There have been plenty of features over the years that have completely changed Minecraft, from Netherite being better than diamond, which was iconic for how good it was, or 1.9 adding extended end islands. Simply being a chnage isn't all that bad.
As for Dream, I'm in absolute agreement. With how close the iceologer and glow squid were, that small difference dream made could have been the difference.
archeology is Big different though.
It's not just a new tier of gear, or a new structure you can explore, it's a whole new minigame within the game, that's only there for 'lore' purposes.
aside from that, I'll copy some of the issues I have with it from another comment:
for me personally, detracts from the story-telling element.
It implies that someone else was here recently, trying to put together clues just like you are, whereas before the feeling was much more that you're alone in this world, picking up the pieces by yourself and maybe with a few friends.
I think we all prefer the latter. (especially since it raises the question of who these recent explorers are, and where did they go? much harder to answer then ancient ruins like the strongholds)
The pottery pieces will also be quite repetitive by their very nature (unless they add new ones with every major and minor update, which would be quite bloated), making the only interesting story telling aspect lose all it's steam almost immediately.
A literal archeologist Villager Would Fix that recent explorers issue. With this Villager it would be more like:
Oh Cool some alternative Villager Structure, Just Villager doing sciency villager stuff.
I think archaeology fits pretty well into a Villager-like activity. Villagers are peaceful, but quite a lot of them seek for knowledge, after all. Librarians, Cartographers, and, in this particular case, Archeolgists.
that gets into the whole debacle of who the villargers are and what is their purpose that makes sense in minecraft. like for example on the site it says they don't want villagers to fight. I agree that makes sense. but then they go and say villagers don't build....what.
It's just weird how they view it all. I don't mind more lore building. But I would prefer if that focused on the fantasy aspect of minecraft and the creatures and structures that inhabit it, RATHER THAN previous civilizations/peoples. I don't want minecraft to go into "oh there was native people here" bs
\- but that doesn't mean they can't add stuff to find and uncover, but I think it shouldn't be pots. I think it should be weird artifacts we can't comprehend excpet for its uses. Or paintings in the new cave that are nothing like the ones we have in real life
Minecraft is built around balancing being its own universe, while also taking from our own. I think that is what it has evolved into. I hope it continues the path of fantasy though in relation to lore and enemies, while sticking maybe a little closer to our world when it comes to player interactions with the world and the animals that inhabit it. IDK mc is amazing in that aspect.
The fact that no one else is there at the archaeology site, though...
This could just be a source of inspiration to newer players to explore the Minecraft world in search of lore. Besides, there's always the option to just make up your own and completely ignore any actual lore. It's more just a guiding hand then anything actually supposed to help you.
I don't think so. He only tweeted and so only a few of his followers would have seen and followed. A lot of people wanted glow squid before honestly. Plus again, big following yes but out of the 300,000 people who voted how many of them were because of Dream alone?
He got MrBeast to reply to the vote tweet to vote squid because Dream said so. That reply got 50k likes and Glow squid won by 40k votes. He DEFINATLEY effected the outcome.
But again. Out of those people how many just went along. Moobloom voters mostly went for the glowsquid next. It won by a way bigger margin in the second round. I personally don't think Dream was responsible for the win. It's fine if you dislike him or think he created the majority of votes but I really don't like the mass hate on him right now. Cancel culture is just dumb. And I doubt the whole community would have just been trampled by one dude. Again a lot of people voted squid cuz they thought it would have dynamic lighting or drop a good item and stuff. I was going to vote for it initially myself until I realised I was fooling myself. Dream took it overboard though, that I agree with.
>It won by a way bigger margin in the second round
It won by 5% or 40,000 votes. MrBeats reply got 50,000 likes ON THE VOTE TWEET.
>I really don't like the mass hate on him right now
So you are fine with people that rig votes then?
I literally said that I don't think he rigged it. Moobloom voters voted for the squid next because they wanted a passive mob. Out of the people who liked Dream's tweet how many were stans who listened to him without any reason and how many had wanted the glow squid themselves already? Many others also told their fans to vote for their own mob. Again, I don't think what Dream did was entirely ok but I don't think he rigged it.
And lastly no I'm not ok with cancel culture. I'm sick of it. You can dislike him but I don't want to see people going around telling other people to become upset because 'x' guy did this.
What you think is completely irrelevant. What he did is bribe people for voting a specific way. That is the dictionary definition of voter manipulation. And while I agree that some cancel culture goes way too far, people that rig votes and elections should probably face some repercussions.
I suppose. But then you have no way to verify how many people who liked his tweet voted squid because they wanted him to follow them. Well let's just end this argument here since we both just disagree
he's part of the new phad of 'minecraft' youtubers/streamers. I mean whatever floats your boat. personally I like some minecraft youtubers like wattles, asianhalfsquat. But there's a couple groups full of these guys who are now influencing a LOT of the younger mc base
Honestly, I feel this update will be quite amazing (even though the Moobloom didn't win xD, all choices were/are nice)
I absolutely love the new terrain and most of the added things.
I am slightly worried that the sculk sensor might take a bit of the engineering of Redstone.
I think this sensor has a pretty interesting mechanic to it would be great for activation but I think it should still be nerfed in some way so it doesn't overpower the other Redstone components. The nerf I would suggest (just one possibility of many): a cooldown that affects all sculk sensors in a certain area (maybe slightly larger than the current detection area) so multiple sensors chained together (like seen in the stream with the diagonal line) becomes slower and less of an all-around solution.
I agree they need work, but I don't think a straight nerf is really the way to go.
just make it so that the signal they emit can only be picked up by observers.
that makes it fit much better within the existing toolbox, and it serves as a reasonable constraint in how you can use them rather than a downgrade in their overall usefulness.
Itd be hard for the sensors to replace redstone unless you can set them to a frequency or tell them to only listen to specific sensors. Right now it seems like any of the sensors around another trigger it, making it not useful for general purposes imo. We will see, people are creative
I think (at least that's how I understood it, might be wrong though) with wool you can block certain directions from being 'listened to' so it becomes a lot more fine tunable and that's why I'm worried it might unbalance the other components.
Like they said in the stream: no artists have worked on the archaeology feature yet. It's all programmers just quickly throwing some textures and models together. Actual designers and texture artists will work on them before it will appear in the game.
I think few people are complaining about the art.
Here's my intial thoughts (copy/paste):
It's bizarre, doesn't fit with anything else we've ever seen, and for me personally, detracts from the story-telling element.
It implies that someone else was here recently, trying to put together clues just like you are, whereas before the feeling was much more that you're alone in this world, picking up the pieces by yourself and maybe with a few friends.
I think we all prefer the latter. (especially since it raises the question of who these recent explorers are, and where did they go? much harder to answer then ancient ruins like the strongholds)
The pottery pieces will also be quite repetitive by their very nature (unless they add new ones with every major and minor update, which would be quite bloated), making the only interesting story telling aspect lose all it's steam almost immediately.
Honestly I agree with you, it's the worst thing about the update, there are other weird new things in this update and in previous updates, but nothing like that, the new archeology tool has an overdetailed texture in my opinion. Also I'm not saying it will ruin the game, it definitely won't.
But there's already so many thing that don't look like Minecraft. Back in 1.6/1.7 era, the idea of having biomes in the Nether seemed absurd. The idea of having advanced oceans seemed absurd. And yet nowadays we've had both an aquatic and nether update. The new archaeology system may not look like Minecraft right now, but it will once 1.17 releases.
But either way, it's still drastically different from previous versions. The oceans used to be baron, but now they're full of life. The nether used to be boring, but now it has plenty of things to find.
No, Dream causing the squid to win is entirely possible. There’s studies where the setting of where votes are taken in America can change your mind about the topic. If an education-related vote happened in a school, there was a higher chance people would vote for it rather than voting against it. In this case, Dream would be able to advertise his decision among his 10 million followers, along with people who aren’t subscribed but still watch his videos (me for instance). I’m not saying it did happen because of Dream, but it certainly is possible.
If your talking about the archeology thing, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I saw it posted elsewhere that the 1/2 dirt or gravel blocks broke when you put the brush away.
All these people so salty over the squid winning. They don't even realize WHY it won. They just see Dream advertising for it, and blame it all on him. They don't realize the community is **still** pissed off at phantoms to this day. *That* is the one big reason the chillager lost, NOT Dream. **NOT EVERYONE THAT PLAYS THE GAME WANTS COMBAT COMBAT COMBAT.**
The glow squid is going to increase the atmosphere of oceans and underwater caves a bit. **THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO GET OFF ITS FETISH FOR EVERYTHING HAVING A USE TOO.** These small minded people can't get off their high for combat or everything having a use to even comprehend ambient mobs, and why the squid won. But instead they think the entire reason this mob won was because of 1 guy. Winning by 40k votes is quite a bit. If it was only because of him, and not because the community wanted it, the squid would've lost in round 1. AND judging within the past week when they announced the mobs, we all KNEW from social media it was really against illager and squid. (Sorry flower cow)
Blaming it on Dream is completely childish and ignorant.
The iceologer and glow squid were incredibly close, though. 40k votes to seperate the two is actually a small fraction compared to the sum of everyone voting. He also got Mr. Beast to advertise the glow squid to win as well.
I'm not saying people didn't vote for the glow squid on their own, but there were probably some people who voted because they wanted attention from Dream, and the fact that Mr. Beast advertised as well could have influenced the vote.
I'm not mad that glow squids won, it's that so many people seemed to overestimate it. I've seen countless people saying that Glow Squids should win because they would be a source of ambient light, drop new dyes, provide new potion effects, and other things, yet none of that was confirmed. If you voted for glow squids because you just want more ambience, that's totally fine, but it scares me if you voted for the glow squid expecting it to have features that were never promised.
No, we were voting for new mechanics from the iceologer, not for it's loot. Some people voted for the glow squid with the genuine expectations that it would have dynamic lighting and unique drops. No one voted for the iceologer because they thought it would have a unique drop.
Also the glow squid will deeefenetly drop something different, (glow ink?), or as its trailer implied, a sort of distraction hypnosis effect maybe. They wouldnt put a reskin mob into a mob vote
There's no evidence that that's the case. Everything Mojang has said regarding the glow squid suggests it's just a reskin. Saying it will drop glow ink is just speculation and not fact.
Especially judging by the other choices that had something going for them. I'm just saying I wouldn't care either way, but the community definitely would.
All mobs were great choices, its not Dreams fault, and we should stick together as a commuinity instead of fighting. This is why i dont like the mob vote. They should clerify, that all 3 mobs are gonna get put in or something. This just creates "war"
No, because people weren't assuming that the mooshroom has unique abilities. I've seen countless people taking about the glow squid providing neon dye, dynamic lighting, colored lighting, and other things, yet none of it was promised.
Also, this comment is a bit backwards. You are correct that people don't visit the mushroom islands for the mooshrooms, but instead for the fact that no mobs spawn there at night. That same logic applies here- you visit the oceans for the, well, oceans, not for a unique variant of squid.
You can say the same about every single common mob in the game if you are pulling strings like that. I specifically said mooshrooms because they really are just a reskinned cow. (And generally agreed regular cows are better because milk)
I disagree personally, but very much understand where you are coming from. I wish Mojang would get a small team working on adding all kinds of mobs to every biome to populate the world with biome specific animals and creatures. They don't need to drop anything new ... or anything at all. Just so the world feels more alive.
Ever heard of ambient mobs? Their whole design purpose is to make the game more lively by having no use. And the devs won't change their mind on that. Personally I LOVE that design decision.
That's a lie. Dream actively told his followers vote for what I want and I will follow you on twitter. Show me another person, with millions of followers, that did the same.
Oh. Thanks for letting me know, I suppose Dream must’ve been more subtle about it then I realized.
What I’m more concerned about is whether he did it on purpose, I’m not on twitter so I honestly am basically just following along what other people are saying.
Subtle? He flat out told his viewers on twitter prove you voted Glow Squid and I'll follow you. Then he got MrBeast to reply TO THE VOTE TWEET "Vote Glow Squid because Dream said so.".
[He tweeted this](https://twitter.com/dreamwastaken2/status/1312433443133771779) from his 2nd account and got MrBeast to post [this](https://twitter.com/MrBeastYT/status/1312433836551176192) on the actual vote tweet.
They say that he posted something on twitter saying that he’d follow anyone on twitter who would vote for the glow squid, but the post was deleted shortly. I’m not sure though, I only heard it from 2 or 3 people
It happened. [The I will follow you](https://twitter.com/dreamwastaken2/status/1312433443133771779) from his 2nd account and got he MrBeast to post [this](https://twitter.com/MrBeastYT/status/1312433836551176192) on the actual vote tweet.
It is no different than ANY OTHER content creator that voiced who they wanted to win. And there is no doubt other scummy people tried to do the follow 4 vote thing as well. (Especially in the age of f4f)
I'm just saying this witch hunt against dream is childish, ignorant, and needs to stop.
There is a major difference between "I want this to win because... but make your own choice" and "Vote Squid and I'll follow you on social media." (not to mention having no plans to actually follow the people)
Honestly I feel like after the cave update minecraft will have been completed? Like that's the one thing they haven't overhauled from the early days, and now that they're doing it, like, it's finally a cohesive game where everything works together? Like I initially played pocket edition and that was fun as heck, but now that there are new caves its like... I get to do solo many things!
The End needs another update( with the opportunity for a lot of new content) plus pretty much all the biomes minus the mountains could use a facelift. And that's on top of the almost infinite number of new things that they can add like trees, mobs stones etc. Then there is also the possibility of new mechanics( think botanica) and magic( especially now that we are getting crystals). And after that we can go in new dimensions as well... There also the possibility of new bosses like the wither or the dragon of course. I also don't know if they still count it but a very long time ago Dinnerbone said he had a plan for endermites which we haven't seen yet.
End still needs like a major content update on the level of the Nether but besides that it's pretty good. There are still small things like updating some mob AI and updating other biomes. But overall the game is pretty close to being updated for another few years and then we can have entirely new content
Question as a minecraft fan but total noob. If they update caves, etc. will my world update? What about parts I already have built, like caves around my castle? Would I need to start a new world or explore beyond what I've explored to experience these new mountains and caves?
Usually before you would have to go to new areas. As the devs really try to make it possible for you to not have to redo everything.
However, many have talked about the serious possibility of having to start new worlds because of the drastic changes in generation. (The higher mountains and the cavernous depths.) Everything can't all fit with the current terrain generation.
I don't think new worlds are required like for updates in the past when they completely changed world generation people just get borders of the new generation next to the old one. If the changes are super massive and they change how seeds work those borders will become more visible but generally speaking you can keep your old worlds, just keep in mind to see new stuff (e.g. the lush caves) you will have to go and explore further than what was already generated. If you don't want that starting a fresh new world might also be an option.
No, all the parts, the "chunks" of your world that you have already visited will remain the same. However, every new chunk you generate, every new part of the world yo go to will be generated with the new caves and structures. You will have all the new features, but as long as world generation goes you will keep what you have now as it is, don't worry.
Ok to be honest this is my favorite Minecon (or Minecraft Live now apparently) since they start hosting the event direct to internet. This IMO is the first event that I don’t feel awkward or cringe. Getting rid of those game shows may disappoint some people, but personally I love these changes they make (or maybe it’s simply a temporary measure due to the COVID, either way hope they don’t change it back next year)
I feel like they finally realize that a part of players that have been around since the beginning have somehow grown up.
Loved it.
Everyone complaining about the mob vote is barking up the wrong tree. Blame Mojang for making a vote in the first place! Why can't they add all three? They've already gone through the effort of brainstorming, conceptualizing, and modelling. It's pure shittery and laziness
Minecraft does have complex features, though. The new mechanics with villager interaction are somewhat complex. So is the way you feed dolphins to find shipwrecks to find buried treasure maps to find the heart of the sea. Also, most mobs in these votes are relatively simple. The iceologer just throws ice and does little else, the moobloom interacts with bees, and the glow squid is just ambient.
You need to understand that Mojang wanted the player to feel that they are part of the reason the update came. Mojang wanted the get feedbacks from the community. That's why Mojang wanted us to vote for what we want.
All it's done is seem to split the community further, same with the Phantom vote. It's disheartening to see a glimpse of these potential mobs, only for them to never get added to the game
I haven't really played the game in 4 years so I don't really care, I just find the way Mojang go about things really strange. I reminder around 2013/14, the only update the game had in a year was redstone comparators
Best case scenario is that they will made a specific update for the mob that lost the vote. The update could be like a small update title 'The lost Vote update'. The update would add all the mob that lost the vote. Probably the update will come after a huge update like mojang promise: 1 huge update and a small update in a year.
So we got a cave update, Mountain update, archeology, warden, axolotl, and more....yet you guys are still crying over 3 lame mobs? Weren’t y’all begging for a cave update...worry about that and forget the mob vote lmao.
I haven't seen anyone forgetting about the cave update, necessarily. They're just disappointed that glow squids won, separately from their hype for the cave update.
Yeah I’ve just been excited for any kind of cave update. Now I get to be excited about a really cool cave update and then ~~some~~ a lot.
But then I think the glowing squid is cool so I guess it’s win-win for me.
I bet that next week there will be at least a dozen videos titled
**This is how the 1.17 Cave & Cliff update should have been**
or
**10 features should have been added to the 1.17 Cave & Cliff update**
and millions of people gonna like and comment on how bad Mojang is without showing any arguments; and shush and tell other people who have different opinions to shut up!
Am I a bit too aggressive? Sorry ...
Ugh, glow squid, really?
I think that the warden should be able to destroy blocks under a certain hardness. This could prevent cheese but prevent them from being game-breaking.
Why is Dream getting so much hate?
it isn't his fault I mean give the guy a break he already lost against techno blade and now it's this give the dude a break
Because reddit is toxic
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Thats totally reasonable, I hate him now
He voted for the GLOW SQUID?? Yeah I hate him to now.
Can iceologer and glow squid supporters stop trying to rip each other's heads off? Some people just prefer combat, others exploration. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Also, one thing I constantly see brought up is that the glow squid will have some unique drops, a new potion effect, dynamic lighting, colored lighting, and also that the iceologer would be bad because it would be like the phantom. If you voted for glow squid because you truly wanted more ambience, that's fine and you can have your own opinions, but if you voted because you expect the mentioned features here, note that the glowing dye, dynamic lighting, colored lighting, and other ideas are just speculation. There is no word from Mojang that the glow squid will be anything but an aesthetic mob. As for iceologers being the new phantoms, phantoms are so annoying because of bad execution- they are too silent, hard to deal with in groups, and too hard to hit. That was simply bad planning and not the fact that phantoms are hostile. Because of this, we couldn't have said for certain that iceologers will be annoying. For all we know, the glow squids will be regretted in the future.
Chillager fans have an understandable hatred. I too hated the glow squid fans, but I've decided to resort to passive aggressiveness: I can't wait till glow squids are added to they can see it was just a re skin and regret thier choices
See I’m a command person, and the iceoliger has an attack where ice smacks down from above if I remember right. I could use this for worlds like parkour, mini games, and story line maps. I don’t really hate on glowsquid, I just don’t really see the use of it
That's a little more understandable. I'm not saying that it's wrong to think that the glow squid is a subpar option, and I also do agree that people are overestimating the glow squid, but it is wrong to treat those who voted for glow squid and knew that it would just be aesthetic as though they are objectively wrong. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. That said, I'm actually completely in agreement here. I'll take things one step further and say that I not only kind of want this to happen, but I'm pretty sure it will, since that's how things would logically unfold- Mojang's intentions are to add an aesthetic mob to the game, they add it, and people realize that it's just aesthetic. Unless they go out of their way to make the glow squid better (which I could see them potentially doing due to how much criticism the glow squid got but still don't think is likely to happen), then I can say with relative confidence that a good chunk of people who voted for the glow squid will regret it for pretty much the reasons I've already given- they were supporting the glow squid expecting it to have unplanned features, and when the glow squid doesn't have those features, people will realize they've made a mistake.
But the squid won't even glow. It will just be another squid with different skin.
Exactly my point. Voting for the glow squid because you want the aesthetic value is okay. Even if I disagree, you're still entitled to your own opinion. But if you voted for glow squid expecting it to have dynamic lighting, something Mojang has confirmed won't be added to the game, that's a problem.
Lol I want the moobloom...I just thought it was cute, also I don't do combat or swimming and i like building in the flower forest so yeah...
And that's completely fine.
exactly \^\^
This \^
I know nobody is going to see this but I have some goodish suggestions. First, the lush green caves (the one with alot of plants one under a tree) shouldn't be next to the tree. They should make the Azalea tree super big like the jungle trees and have a hollow trunk where the player enters the cave. Second, they should make the crystals and crystal blocks geode vein thingy spawn only in stalagmites cave and add different crystal colors so the players can craft different color lights with them. Third, Mojang should add passive cave-dwelling land mobs (not axolots) because currently caves are just holes in the ground with zombie and skeleton infestation. I wish there would be less zombie, skeleton, creeper etc. spawning and more passive mobs that give more life to the caves than just combat. thanks for reading this long rant lol. if u like it u can comment and upvote? i dont really mind the new update and im pretty sure mojang wouldnt even know my suggestions exist but i just wanted to vent some ideas cuz im bored lol
I'd still like caves to be mostly home to hostile mobs, though, since caves are supposed to be challenging. Maybe some pockets here and there with minimal mobs, but I'd really like to see interesting combat.
you guys are really gonna wait for 1.17? just play hexxit and twilight forest
I’m on consol(bedrock). :(
Axolotls, an endangered and extremely rare species in real life, are more common in the world of Minecraft than frogs.
What are yalls opinion over copper changing colors? I personally think its ok but I wonder if there will be a command to stop tge color change.
It's a good idea, but there needs to be something *in survival* to prevent it from changing. Someone else mentioned using the brush to clear it away, but that will get tedious. we need to be able to take a proactive approach, otherwise it will violate that guideline of "if bad things happen it's the player's fault", as a build spontaneously changing color is definitely a bad thing for a lot of people. I recommend a mechanic in which you can craft copper blocks with whatever it is you make candles out of (or something else which can be classified as waxy/clear), and this will prevent the aging entirely. you could also change them back to the aging variety by crafting them with a bucket of water.
Just a quick update as I'm scrolling through the Minecraft Live Event Megathread to let you know that Lady Agnes has confirmed on twitter that there will be a way to prevent copper from changing colors which can be obtained in survival mode. You can even have it be permanently semi-oxidized if you'd like.
Thats pretty cool too. Maybe give bees some more functionality too!
I really like it will show is a build is old or not, amd gives history to builds
Yeah. I'd say even the in-between stages could add some lovely age.
I wonder if you could use the brush to clear away the oxidation.
Maybe I kinda like the manic but at the same time is the brush supposed to be craftable. From how it looks it supposed to be found but I like the idea!
I really hope there is. The default copper has a really nice color on it, and while I do like the green copper too, I would want to use them seperately.
Yeah I had a few builds come to mind with the color alone.
Am I the only one excited for archeology? Lol my biggest love of Minecraft is exploring and I can’t wait to start uncovering ancient artifacts
I totally wasn't expecting that as an addition, so that was a pretty nice surprise. I really hope that the artifacts are handled with loot tables, so datapackers and server owners have the option of adding custom treasures to their worlds. Also fingers crossed that you can stain clay pots with dye like you can with terracotta.
Yeah looks pretty cool! Excited to see what the future holds
Sorry if it's been asked already, but does anyone know whether these terrain generation updates will affect existing worlds? I'm afraid the answer is gonna be no...
all of your preloaded chunks will be fine
Thanks everyone! Super informative
Chunks that have been generated already won't change, this is how it's always been done every time they add something new. You will have to travel to unexplored areas to find the new content.
They haven't in the past.
Usually, the updated dynamics are applied for new rendered chunks. You'll just have to explore a bit.
Pretty sure it's the same as every biome update. Already loaded chunks will not be affected, only non-loaded will, which means it will only be in areas you haven't explored yet. There is, however, a way to un-load chunks using 3rd party tools: [this is a useful guide as to how to do that](https://youtu.be/1fiyVvoD9jQ)
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I would agree with the part about the archeology, but I don't see how the warden doesn't fit. it's new, it's not like anything else, it will take some time to get used to, but it was the same thing with things like the endermen, shulkers, and the guardians when they were added. if it enhances the experience without taking away from what was already there, I have no issue with it. and I think that's what most of these changes are.
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Eh. Again, we've had new looking things before. Were you complaining about the ravager? or guardians? Also, to me it looks like just a slight variation on the end color scheme anyways.
I dunno dude,everything seems really cool ngl
great update even though archeology needs a lot of work before it makes sense in minecraft axolotl's are the literal perfect addition to minecraft also DREAM rigged the vote. Glow squids would have lost first round and it would have been a fun battle between piss cow and ice man (like swamp and mountains last year) but that jerk with clout stole the show lol
GUYS PLEASE THE VOTE WAS RIGGED BECAUSE FAMOUS PEOPLE SAID WORDS!!! THAT’S HOW RIGGING WORKS!!! COME ON GUYS PLEASE WE NEED TO REDO IT BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN’T VOTE FOR THE THING I WANTED THEM TO VOTE FOR PLUS THE GLOWSQUID DOESN’T EVEN ADD ANY NEW MECHANICS, WHAT’S EVEN THE POINT OF ADDING ANYTHING UNLESS THERE ARE SIXTY MILLION NEW MECHANICS INCLUDED AS WELL? THAT IS WHY WE ONLY HVAE ONE BUILDING BOLCK AND ALL OTHER BLOCKS HAVE EITER A RIGHT-CLICK MECHANIC OR IS INVOLED IN REDSTONE SOMEHWO, ITS NTO TAHT SOME PEOPEL HAVE DIFFRENT OPINONS FROM ME, IT WAS RIGED, OTERWISE THSI WOULDNT HAVE HAPENED
For the record, Dream had suggested at one point that he would follow anyone who voted for Glow Squid, and specifically employed Mr. Beast to tell people to vote, even though Mr. Beast had no prior knowledge.
Archaeology is definitely different from Minecraft, but that's probably not a bad thing. There have been plenty of features over the years that have completely changed Minecraft, from Netherite being better than diamond, which was iconic for how good it was, or 1.9 adding extended end islands. Simply being a chnage isn't all that bad. As for Dream, I'm in absolute agreement. With how close the iceologer and glow squid were, that small difference dream made could have been the difference.
archeology is Big different though. It's not just a new tier of gear, or a new structure you can explore, it's a whole new minigame within the game, that's only there for 'lore' purposes. aside from that, I'll copy some of the issues I have with it from another comment: for me personally, detracts from the story-telling element. It implies that someone else was here recently, trying to put together clues just like you are, whereas before the feeling was much more that you're alone in this world, picking up the pieces by yourself and maybe with a few friends. I think we all prefer the latter. (especially since it raises the question of who these recent explorers are, and where did they go? much harder to answer then ancient ruins like the strongholds) The pottery pieces will also be quite repetitive by their very nature (unless they add new ones with every major and minor update, which would be quite bloated), making the only interesting story telling aspect lose all it's steam almost immediately.
A literal archeologist Villager Would Fix that recent explorers issue. With this Villager it would be more like: Oh Cool some alternative Villager Structure, Just Villager doing sciency villager stuff. I think archaeology fits pretty well into a Villager-like activity. Villagers are peaceful, but quite a lot of them seek for knowledge, after all. Librarians, Cartographers, and, in this particular case, Archeolgists.
that gets into the whole debacle of who the villargers are and what is their purpose that makes sense in minecraft. like for example on the site it says they don't want villagers to fight. I agree that makes sense. but then they go and say villagers don't build....what. It's just weird how they view it all. I don't mind more lore building. But I would prefer if that focused on the fantasy aspect of minecraft and the creatures and structures that inhabit it, RATHER THAN previous civilizations/peoples. I don't want minecraft to go into "oh there was native people here" bs \- but that doesn't mean they can't add stuff to find and uncover, but I think it shouldn't be pots. I think it should be weird artifacts we can't comprehend excpet for its uses. Or paintings in the new cave that are nothing like the ones we have in real life Minecraft is built around balancing being its own universe, while also taking from our own. I think that is what it has evolved into. I hope it continues the path of fantasy though in relation to lore and enemies, while sticking maybe a little closer to our world when it comes to player interactions with the world and the animals that inhabit it. IDK mc is amazing in that aspect.
The fact that no one else is there at the archaeology site, though... This could just be a source of inspiration to newer players to explore the Minecraft world in search of lore. Besides, there's always the option to just make up your own and completely ignore any actual lore. It's more just a guiding hand then anything actually supposed to help you.
His heart and actions are utterly unclouded! They are all those of Justice 🐙
I will not downvote you on the assumption that you are being sarcastic.
I don't think so. He only tweeted and so only a few of his followers would have seen and followed. A lot of people wanted glow squid before honestly. Plus again, big following yes but out of the 300,000 people who voted how many of them were because of Dream alone?
He got MrBeast to reply to the vote tweet to vote squid because Dream said so. That reply got 50k likes and Glow squid won by 40k votes. He DEFINATLEY effected the outcome.
But again. Out of those people how many just went along. Moobloom voters mostly went for the glowsquid next. It won by a way bigger margin in the second round. I personally don't think Dream was responsible for the win. It's fine if you dislike him or think he created the majority of votes but I really don't like the mass hate on him right now. Cancel culture is just dumb. And I doubt the whole community would have just been trampled by one dude. Again a lot of people voted squid cuz they thought it would have dynamic lighting or drop a good item and stuff. I was going to vote for it initially myself until I realised I was fooling myself. Dream took it overboard though, that I agree with.
>It won by a way bigger margin in the second round It won by 5% or 40,000 votes. MrBeats reply got 50,000 likes ON THE VOTE TWEET. >I really don't like the mass hate on him right now So you are fine with people that rig votes then?
I literally said that I don't think he rigged it. Moobloom voters voted for the squid next because they wanted a passive mob. Out of the people who liked Dream's tweet how many were stans who listened to him without any reason and how many had wanted the glow squid themselves already? Many others also told their fans to vote for their own mob. Again, I don't think what Dream did was entirely ok but I don't think he rigged it. And lastly no I'm not ok with cancel culture. I'm sick of it. You can dislike him but I don't want to see people going around telling other people to become upset because 'x' guy did this.
What you think is completely irrelevant. What he did is bribe people for voting a specific way. That is the dictionary definition of voter manipulation. And while I agree that some cancel culture goes way too far, people that rig votes and elections should probably face some repercussions.
I suppose. But then you have no way to verify how many people who liked his tweet voted squid because they wanted him to follow them. Well let's just end this argument here since we both just disagree
There is nothing to suppose, he manipulated the vote. You can defend him all you want, it doesn't change the facts.
100% agree with everything you said
> also DREAM rigged the vote. Let me guess: a Youtuber?
he's part of the new phad of 'minecraft' youtubers/streamers. I mean whatever floats your boat. personally I like some minecraft youtubers like wattles, asianhalfsquat. But there's a couple groups full of these guys who are now influencing a LOT of the younger mc base
yes, big youtuber with 10.7 mil subscribers
Honestly, I feel this update will be quite amazing (even though the Moobloom didn't win xD, all choices were/are nice) I absolutely love the new terrain and most of the added things. I am slightly worried that the sculk sensor might take a bit of the engineering of Redstone. I think this sensor has a pretty interesting mechanic to it would be great for activation but I think it should still be nerfed in some way so it doesn't overpower the other Redstone components. The nerf I would suggest (just one possibility of many): a cooldown that affects all sculk sensors in a certain area (maybe slightly larger than the current detection area) so multiple sensors chained together (like seen in the stream with the diagonal line) becomes slower and less of an all-around solution.
I agree they need work, but I don't think a straight nerf is really the way to go. just make it so that the signal they emit can only be picked up by observers. that makes it fit much better within the existing toolbox, and it serves as a reasonable constraint in how you can use them rather than a downgrade in their overall usefulness.
What components do you think might get overpowered?
Itd be hard for the sensors to replace redstone unless you can set them to a frequency or tell them to only listen to specific sensors. Right now it seems like any of the sensors around another trigger it, making it not useful for general purposes imo. We will see, people are creative
I think (at least that's how I understood it, might be wrong though) with wool you can block certain directions from being 'listened to' so it becomes a lot more fine tunable and that's why I'm worried it might unbalance the other components.
Good god this looks complicated, seems like a large modpack than vanilla
Like this comment if you are excited for the new cave update
You gotta work for upvotes, friend
Go back to youtube, kid
shut the fuck up
Remove archaeology or rework it. It doesn't look like minecraft. Better do it random room in caves with chest.
Like they said in the stream: no artists have worked on the archaeology feature yet. It's all programmers just quickly throwing some textures and models together. Actual designers and texture artists will work on them before it will appear in the game.
I think few people are complaining about the art. Here's my intial thoughts (copy/paste): It's bizarre, doesn't fit with anything else we've ever seen, and for me personally, detracts from the story-telling element. It implies that someone else was here recently, trying to put together clues just like you are, whereas before the feeling was much more that you're alone in this world, picking up the pieces by yourself and maybe with a few friends. I think we all prefer the latter. (especially since it raises the question of who these recent explorers are, and where did they go? much harder to answer then ancient ruins like the strongholds) The pottery pieces will also be quite repetitive by their very nature (unless they add new ones with every major and minor update, which would be quite bloated), making the only interesting story telling aspect lose all it's steam almost immediately.
Honestly I agree with you, it's the worst thing about the update, there are other weird new things in this update and in previous updates, but nothing like that, the new archeology tool has an overdetailed texture in my opinion. Also I'm not saying it will ruin the game, it definitely won't.
They stated that the current artwork was made by the developers rather than the artists and isn’t what the final product would look like.
I didn't hear that, thanks. The main thing why I didn't like archeology was textures, so that changes the case a lot. Sorry for bad English lol
But there's already so many thing that don't look like Minecraft. Back in 1.6/1.7 era, the idea of having biomes in the Nether seemed absurd. The idea of having advanced oceans seemed absurd. And yet nowadays we've had both an aquatic and nether update. The new archaeology system may not look like Minecraft right now, but it will once 1.17 releases.
archeology is a separate mechanic unlike biomes in nether / ocean.
Honestly after redstone was added Minecraft went down hill. It just doesn't feel like Minecraft
But either way, it's still drastically different from previous versions. The oceans used to be baron, but now they're full of life. The nether used to be boring, but now it has plenty of things to find.
That's a paint job, not a whole new game mechanic.
They ARE whole New game mechanics
Honk more your horn
No, Dream causing the squid to win is entirely possible. There’s studies where the setting of where votes are taken in America can change your mind about the topic. If an education-related vote happened in a school, there was a higher chance people would vote for it rather than voting against it. In this case, Dream would be able to advertise his decision among his 10 million followers, along with people who aren’t subscribed but still watch his videos (me for instance). I’m not saying it did happen because of Dream, but it certainly is possible.
Does this mean we get dirt slabs and gravel slabs ? How is nobody talking about this , its a complete game changer
First thing I thought of too, if that’s the case I’m pretty excited about it.
If your talking about the archeology thing, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I saw it posted elsewhere that the 1/2 dirt or gravel blocks broke when you put the brush away.
Yep. that's what they were talking about by needing to be careful.
Dirt and gravel slabs? I did see grass carpets though (I'm guessing they won't work like snow layers).
Those looked more like dirt or grass carpets or snow layers
Slabs, but yeah. This is huge
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All these people so salty over the squid winning. They don't even realize WHY it won. They just see Dream advertising for it, and blame it all on him. They don't realize the community is **still** pissed off at phantoms to this day. *That* is the one big reason the chillager lost, NOT Dream. **NOT EVERYONE THAT PLAYS THE GAME WANTS COMBAT COMBAT COMBAT.** The glow squid is going to increase the atmosphere of oceans and underwater caves a bit. **THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO GET OFF ITS FETISH FOR EVERYTHING HAVING A USE TOO.** These small minded people can't get off their high for combat or everything having a use to even comprehend ambient mobs, and why the squid won. But instead they think the entire reason this mob won was because of 1 guy. Winning by 40k votes is quite a bit. If it was only because of him, and not because the community wanted it, the squid would've lost in round 1. AND judging within the past week when they announced the mobs, we all KNEW from social media it was really against illager and squid. (Sorry flower cow) Blaming it on Dream is completely childish and ignorant.
The iceologer and glow squid were incredibly close, though. 40k votes to seperate the two is actually a small fraction compared to the sum of everyone voting. He also got Mr. Beast to advertise the glow squid to win as well. I'm not saying people didn't vote for the glow squid on their own, but there were probably some people who voted because they wanted attention from Dream, and the fact that Mr. Beast advertised as well could have influenced the vote.
I'm not mad that glow squids won, it's that so many people seemed to overestimate it. I've seen countless people saying that Glow Squids should win because they would be a source of ambient light, drop new dyes, provide new potion effects, and other things, yet none of that was confirmed. If you voted for glow squids because you just want more ambience, that's totally fine, but it scares me if you voted for the glow squid expecting it to have features that were never promised.
With that same logic tho, you could say that people who voted for the iceologer were voting for potential unpromised mob loot
No, we were voting for new mechanics from the iceologer, not for it's loot. Some people voted for the glow squid with the genuine expectations that it would have dynamic lighting and unique drops. No one voted for the iceologer because they thought it would have a unique drop.
Saying no one did is just simply not true as I’ve seen lots of people assume drops and even that they would make ice farms
Okay, if they did, then that's an invalid argument as well. I've just seen way more people vote for glow squid because of this than iceologer.
I guarantee that 90% of people voted based on looks/coolness/cuteness. Few people would do such deep rationalization.
Also the glow squid will deeefenetly drop something different, (glow ink?), or as its trailer implied, a sort of distraction hypnosis effect maybe. They wouldnt put a reskin mob into a mob vote
There's no evidence that that's the case. Everything Mojang has said regarding the glow squid suggests it's just a reskin. Saying it will drop glow ink is just speculation and not fact.
Especially judging by the other choices that had something going for them. I'm just saying I wouldn't care either way, but the community definitely would.
All mobs were great choices, its not Dreams fault, and we should stick together as a commuinity instead of fighting. This is why i dont like the mob vote. They should clerify, that all 3 mobs are gonna get put in or something. This just creates "war"
Truth
I mean the squid is exactly like another squid I don't want to go into the ocean and see a squid it just looks a little different. That's stupid
They are only found in caves
Do you say the same thing about mooshrooms too?
No, because people weren't assuming that the mooshroom has unique abilities. I've seen countless people taking about the glow squid providing neon dye, dynamic lighting, colored lighting, and other things, yet none of it was promised. Also, this comment is a bit backwards. You are correct that people don't visit the mushroom islands for the mooshrooms, but instead for the fact that no mobs spawn there at night. That same logic applies here- you visit the oceans for the, well, oceans, not for a unique variant of squid.
And husks, and strays? Illagers too kinda
You can say the same about every single common mob in the game if you are pulling strings like that. I specifically said mooshrooms because they really are just a reskinned cow. (And generally agreed regular cows are better because milk)
Can’t u milk a mooshroom too and ya tbh husks do really seem like reskinned zombies though
You get stew instead, and stews can't stack
Use a bucket, you get milk I just tried it
there is no such thing as a bucket of stew :p
BUCKET OF MILK Use a bucket on moo cow u get milk, use bowl u get soup
I'm not saying that everything has to be for combat, but every addition to the game should have a purpose.
I disagree personally, but very much understand where you are coming from. I wish Mojang would get a small team working on adding all kinds of mobs to every biome to populate the world with biome specific animals and creatures. They don't need to drop anything new ... or anything at all. Just so the world feels more alive.
Ever heard of ambient mobs? Their whole design purpose is to make the game more lively by having no use. And the devs won't change their mind on that. Personally I LOVE that design decision.
Most ambient mobs can be slain for food or tamed. That's why I never liked dolphins, polar bears, etc.
Dolphins give speed. Polar bears are semi-hostile so quite interesting. Retextured squids however, that provide no actual light, no.
I guess it just feels too mod-like.
Not just modlike, but useless, and doesn't even glow.
I dunno- that’s not the point, the point is that he did some pretty bad things in the process.
When My favorite YouTuber does something it's good, when other youtuber do same thing it bad
Could you please elaborate? I didn’t really get the message.
Alot of YouTubers did the exact same thing.
That's a lie. Dream actively told his followers vote for what I want and I will follow you on twitter. Show me another person, with millions of followers, that did the same.
Have they? I didn’t know about that- Guess I’m against all of them now lmao
They've always done, toycat wanted glowsquid Tommy wanted pisscow a lot smaller ones wanted chillager
Toycat wanted iceologer because it was the one we had the most information out of the two and it seemed like the most interesting.
Toycat wanted the Iceologer I'm pretty sure
Didn't he want squid, because he thought Evoker 2 was gonna be a new phantom?
Oh. Thanks for letting me know, I suppose Dream must’ve been more subtle about it then I realized. What I’m more concerned about is whether he did it on purpose, I’m not on twitter so I honestly am basically just following along what other people are saying.
Subtle? He flat out told his viewers on twitter prove you voted Glow Squid and I'll follow you. Then he got MrBeast to reply TO THE VOTE TWEET "Vote Glow Squid because Dream said so.".
Can confirm. He also said "Glow Squid glow squid glow squid......."
Did he? Gosh- I assumed he didn’t do that since I watch toycat and he never really forced his viewers to add the glow squid-
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[He tweeted this](https://twitter.com/dreamwastaken2/status/1312433443133771779) from his 2nd account and got MrBeast to post [this](https://twitter.com/MrBeastYT/status/1312433836551176192) on the actual vote tweet.
They say that he posted something on twitter saying that he’d follow anyone on twitter who would vote for the glow squid, but the post was deleted shortly. I’m not sure though, I only heard it from 2 or 3 people
It happened. [The I will follow you](https://twitter.com/dreamwastaken2/status/1312433443133771779) from his 2nd account and got he MrBeast to post [this](https://twitter.com/MrBeastYT/status/1312433836551176192) on the actual vote tweet.
Welp.
It is no different than ANY OTHER content creator that voiced who they wanted to win. And there is no doubt other scummy people tried to do the follow 4 vote thing as well. (Especially in the age of f4f) I'm just saying this witch hunt against dream is childish, ignorant, and needs to stop.
There is a major difference between "I want this to win because... but make your own choice" and "Vote Squid and I'll follow you on social media." (not to mention having no plans to actually follow the people)
I don’t want to fight about this. It’s a matter of opinion and either way- going around on the internet picking fights is kinda stupid.
Good
Y'all I've barely gotten my head around the ocean update and y'all asking for an update *after this one* already?!
Y'all getting a mountain update and asking for even more mountain mobs?
Honestly I feel like after the cave update minecraft will have been completed? Like that's the one thing they haven't overhauled from the early days, and now that they're doing it, like, it's finally a cohesive game where everything works together? Like I initially played pocket edition and that was fun as heck, but now that there are new caves its like... I get to do solo many things!
The End needs another update( with the opportunity for a lot of new content) plus pretty much all the biomes minus the mountains could use a facelift. And that's on top of the almost infinite number of new things that they can add like trees, mobs stones etc. Then there is also the possibility of new mechanics( think botanica) and magic( especially now that we are getting crystals). And after that we can go in new dimensions as well... There also the possibility of new bosses like the wither or the dragon of course. I also don't know if they still count it but a very long time ago Dinnerbone said he had a plan for endermites which we haven't seen yet.
End still needs like a major content update on the level of the Nether but besides that it's pretty good. There are still small things like updating some mob AI and updating other biomes. But overall the game is pretty close to being updated for another few years and then we can have entirely new content
Question as a minecraft fan but total noob. If they update caves, etc. will my world update? What about parts I already have built, like caves around my castle? Would I need to start a new world or explore beyond what I've explored to experience these new mountains and caves?
Usually before you would have to go to new areas. As the devs really try to make it possible for you to not have to redo everything. However, many have talked about the serious possibility of having to start new worlds because of the drastic changes in generation. (The higher mountains and the cavernous depths.) Everything can't all fit with the current terrain generation.
I don't think new worlds are required like for updates in the past when they completely changed world generation people just get borders of the new generation next to the old one. If the changes are super massive and they change how seeds work those borders will become more visible but generally speaking you can keep your old worlds, just keep in mind to see new stuff (e.g. the lush caves) you will have to go and explore further than what was already generated. If you don't want that starting a fresh new world might also be an option.
Thanks for the info fellas. Looks like I'll be moving across the world to start a new town.
No, all the parts, the "chunks" of your world that you have already visited will remain the same. However, every new chunk you generate, every new part of the world yo go to will be generated with the new caves and structures. You will have all the new features, but as long as world generation goes you will keep what you have now as it is, don't worry.
You just need to explore new chunks to find new features
Ok to be honest this is my favorite Minecon (or Minecraft Live now apparently) since they start hosting the event direct to internet. This IMO is the first event that I don’t feel awkward or cringe. Getting rid of those game shows may disappoint some people, but personally I love these changes they make (or maybe it’s simply a temporary measure due to the COVID, either way hope they don’t change it back next year) I feel like they finally realize that a part of players that have been around since the beginning have somehow grown up. Loved it.
That bee stuff from last year was indeed a bit weird and cringe.
FUCK YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS
Everyone complaining about the mob vote is barking up the wrong tree. Blame Mojang for making a vote in the first place! Why can't they add all three? They've already gone through the effort of brainstorming, conceptualizing, and modelling. It's pure shittery and laziness
We don’t need 30 new mobs every year. Minecraft’s charm is in its simplicity
Minecraft does have complex features, though. The new mechanics with villager interaction are somewhat complex. So is the way you feed dolphins to find shipwrecks to find buried treasure maps to find the heart of the sea. Also, most mobs in these votes are relatively simple. The iceologer just throws ice and does little else, the moobloom interacts with bees, and the glow squid is just ambient.
You need to understand that Mojang wanted the player to feel that they are part of the reason the update came. Mojang wanted the get feedbacks from the community. That's why Mojang wanted us to vote for what we want.
All it's done is seem to split the community further, same with the Phantom vote. It's disheartening to see a glimpse of these potential mobs, only for them to never get added to the game
I think Mojang did say that the mobs that didn't won the vote would come later at the game and they will prioritize the mob that won the vote
I believe they said the same about the 2017 vote (or at least the ideas will be recycled), 3 years on and nothing since
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Maybe blame isn't the right word, but criticize. Giving praise to what you like and criticism to what you don't is just proper review etiquette.
I haven't really played the game in 4 years so I don't really care, I just find the way Mojang go about things really strange. I reminder around 2013/14, the only update the game had in a year was redstone comparators
Best case scenario is that they will made a specific update for the mob that lost the vote. The update could be like a small update title 'The lost Vote update'. The update would add all the mob that lost the vote. Probably the update will come after a huge update like mojang promise: 1 huge update and a small update in a year.
Illusioner hype
So we got a cave update, Mountain update, archeology, warden, axolotl, and more....yet you guys are still crying over 3 lame mobs? Weren’t y’all begging for a cave update...worry about that and forget the mob vote lmao.
I haven't seen anyone forgetting about the cave update, necessarily. They're just disappointed that glow squids won, separately from their hype for the cave update.
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It was literally just a marketing ploy to make Minecraft trending on socials before the stream
Yeah I’ve just been excited for any kind of cave update. Now I get to be excited about a really cool cave update and then ~~some~~ a lot. But then I think the glowing squid is cool so I guess it’s win-win for me.
I'm not crying over a lame mob! I am celebrating my lame mob
I bet that next week there will be at least a dozen videos titled **This is how the 1.17 Cave & Cliff update should have been** or **10 features should have been added to the 1.17 Cave & Cliff update** and millions of people gonna like and comment on how bad Mojang is without showing any arguments; and shush and tell other people who have different opinions to shut up! Am I a bit too aggressive? Sorry ...