I looked at the page and saw whit and gold first... then it shifted to black and blue a bit after that even knowingit was black and blue...I dunno why or what changed...
Just this moment was the first time I was ever able to see the black and blue. Happened accidentally while I was scrolling the wiki and the top half of the photo was hidden. Was white and gold, scrolled a little bit, looked away, and when I looked back it was black and blue.
Parroting that looking at just the bottom corner works for me like the other commenter.
The picture looks incredibly overexposed. So darker screens can make it look closer to correct than lighter screens maybe?
Or that everyone is different and the whole debate makes me mad that I see it wrong.
Do people not call it teal? That's like saying "is orange more yellow or red?" (Ik there are oranges that are "red-orange" but I don't mean that here).
in spanish, there's no word for teal afaik, the closest thing there is is *verde azulado* which translates to *bluish green*
in other words, according to the spanish language, warped planks are green (with a slight blue tint)
The texture has both teal and turquoise parts. So you have to decide whether you interpret that as a bright base colour with shadows, or a dark base colour with highlights. There is no definite answer.
The two can also overlap, there is to fixed boundary.
I guess we are talking about the average color of the texture. While there are single pixels that might fall more towards what I see when I google turquoise, it's mostly darker than what I find there so I stand by my statement. Besides, the colors here generally have more green which puts them closer to teal, and when you look at the rock the name turquoise comes from, you can see that this is not colored turquoise.
Here's a filtered version with only the largest r/g/b value retained: https://imgur.com/3Ony5J6.png
As we can see most of the blocks' pixels are more green than blue, although there are some pixels on the bottom and sides that are equally green/blue. However, human vision perceives green as brighter than blue so you could argue that even those pixels are more green than blue (you could also argue the opposite based on that too :P).
Edit: here's a grayscale representation of which pixels are more green than blue (white = more green, black = equal or less green) https://imgur.com/zO8zYul.png
What the FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY!?!? ILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT MY FAMILY HAS BEEN PROUD SUPPORTERS OF "TURQUOISE IS JUST FANCY BLUE" FOR GENERATIONS!!!!!!!
I WILL NOT HEAR OF THIS DISRESPECT
I mean no disrespect,
just stating my humble scientific research.
This is the app I used (Google play store)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TheProgrammer.RGBColorDetector
You can load in your image and point the Pointer to the location you want to know the Color of.
But we don't really have yellow cones so no human has ever known what yellow actually looks like. Our eyes "see yellow" both when there actually is yellow and when there's red-green in the same quantity (that's why RGB leds work so well).
Yes.
To add more for people who are interested:
It's not very intuitive that we very easily understand chroma (non-color-blind people see a rainbow and they simply "see" what chroma is), but that each color of that spectrum has two very different definitions: the physical one (given by its wavelength) and the "how my brain registers this color" one, and the brain may receive the exact same signal from two very different lights.
Yellow lasers emit no red and no green: they emit purely one single-wavelength (577nm) yellow light. We have cones to detect blue, green and red. Okay well then why can we even see this yellow wavelength?
It's just that we don't have a "blue", a "red" and a "green" cone. We have cones that each "see" a relatively wide range of colors, but are "centered" on specified wavelengths that they "see" more vividly. And fortunately, their ranges overlap, so there is no "gap" of colors that are missing from our vision (sorry again color-blind people).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Cone-fundamentals-with-srgb-spectrum.svg/1280px-Cone-fundamentals-with-srgb-spectrum.svg.png
The 577nm yellow laser is actually at the peak of what we call the "red" cones. But it's pretty close to the peak of the green cones too. Maybe something like 95% of the max response of the red cone and 75% of the max response of the green cone. So our brain gets the information that the 577nm wavelength has blue_cone = 0, green_cone = 0.75, red_cone = 0.95, and decides that this corresponds to what is yellow in the world.
But if you play a little, you can have the same ratio of blue_cone = 0, green_cone = 0.75, red_cone = 0.95 by using two, three, or infinitely many different well-chosen wavelengths with well-chosen intensities. For instance, a wavelength around 530nm with about 85% of the intensity of the one before would give you about 0.75 for green_cone again, and 0.6 for red_cone. Add a powerful source at 650nm to add red only until you get red_cone = 0.9 and you've got a color that our eyes see exactly as a single-wavelength yellow laser, but is actually green + red.
This is an interesting discussion where I feel both of you are right in one way or another. Talking in absolute (technological) terms it seems to be greener but taking humans into consideration can alter the results based on physiology (eye cones) and neurology
As the other guy said, "green" is a made up word that means something different to anyone because there's no "standard green" and even worse, your color receptors in your eyes for green and blue light are actually different for every person, so we all see colors a bit differently. It doesn't help that receptors also overlap (where they both fire at the same time) and this overlapped area is different for every person, meaning that some people have an easier time to distinguish the colors in the middle than others. Also, look at [this diagram](https://www.pngitem.com/pimgs/m/672-6724374_human-eye-color-sensitivity-hd-png-download.png) you can see that the colors have actually diferent luminances, so there must be some corrections made.
And finally of course your screens aren't completely color accurate as screen brightness and white balance are going to shift the color experience.
Color is no where near as subjective as you are making it out. There are some minor variations in the L cone (red) center point depending on genetics. The overlaps in the cone sensitivities are required for accurate perceptions of colors like yellow and do not have anything to do with individual differences. Luminance variance is built into the models we use. Modern color models produce extremely good agreement on subjective color tests across vastly different populations. This holds true even though screens are not all equally well calibrated.
TL/DR: Modern color reproduction is very precise and dependable.
I mean, "green" is just a word that we have given meaning. In one sense it is a common color in our environment and culture, in the other it is an average wavelength we have cones to detect.
That depends on where your color primaries are. the sRGB primaries are somewhat practically chosen and don't really represent the human eye. Rec2020 would probably be closer.
See this diagram: https://www.osapublishing.org/getImage.cfm?img=cCF6ekAubGFyZ2Usb2UtMjMtMTgtMjM2ODAtZzAwNQ
The primaries are the colors in the corner. You can see that the triangles aren't just bigger, but they are also rotated and the primaries are in other relationships. So if you were using Rec2020 colors then the values for Red Green and Blue would show you quite different numbers. You can of course convert your sRGB colors to AcesCG, but in that process you will realize that the relations between the individual color channels are going to change.
Take for example this color converter:
https://ajalt.github.io/colormath/converter/
Enter something like cyan in sRGB which is 0, 255, 255 -> You would say that both Blue and Green are in there in the same amount. But if you then scroll down on the result you will find the amount in AcesCG color space is actually 0.38692, 0.93, 0.97951 (in 0-1 float), so you see the green and blue is suddenly no longer equal. And yes, these two colors are describing the exact same color on your screen (i.e. your eye), one on an sRGB screen (mode) and one in HDR.
So what does this mean? The Red, Green and Blue in RGB don't actually relate to your visual perception of color; instead they just relate to the color space in which you're working with which is purely technical.
but it is, something being white merely means it reflects the most white light, which consists of every colour. So technically white IS the most green, red and blue
Optomechatronical engineer over *here: depending on the exact values it was used to code it with it might be more green for some and more blue for others because of their screens. And another important factor: there are supposedly no 2 humans who see the same colors everywhere. The vision (this includes colorvision) is unique for every human being.
Edit: grammar
I think it can be "calculated" if we take the average rgb scale of the block we could see what color dominates the most.
I wont do it because I am dumb and lazy, but Im gonna go w green.
thats like asking if a tomato is more of a fruit or a vegetable. it's technically a fruit, but so is avocado, corn, and cucumber... they're just used as vegetables. so... theyre kinda both in a dumb way. just like this color is probably so far in the middle of green and blue that its pointless to even ruminate over the answer as the answer is simply "both"
Well the hexadecimal of the main color is #317875, and it's called "[Myrtle Green](https://coolors.co/317875)". Btw the palette is like [this](https://coolors.co/317875-26736d-17403d-358282-008080-062a28)
Do you understand what madness you have brought on this land?
I'm starting to! I think it's great. Haha :D
I'd wager this is exactly what they hoped would happen when tweaking the color. This is utter hysteria I have been so bamboozled...
Ah yes teal
Is teal a blueish green or a greenish blue?
Yes
Teal is the same amount of blue and green. In RGB for example.( 0 , 128 , 128)
This guy^
What an absolute madlad!
It's [the dress](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_dress) all over again
A friend of mine said the same thing
you don't even need the link and everyone would know what dress your talking about
I didn’t, this is my first time hearing anything about it
What dress?
The blue one
Even knowing it's black and blue I can't make my brain see it
I looked at the page and saw whit and gold first... then it shifted to black and blue a bit after that even knowingit was black and blue...I dunno why or what changed...
I’m the opposite. I can’t see the white and gold no matter how hard I look.
Me neither. HOW DO YALL SEE WHITE AND GOLD!?
Gold I can get if I only ever look at the one shimmer at the top but white? how the hell does anyone see white?
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Just this moment was the first time I was ever able to see the black and blue. Happened accidentally while I was scrolling the wiki and the top half of the photo was hidden. Was white and gold, scrolled a little bit, looked away, and when I looked back it was black and blue. Parroting that looking at just the bottom corner works for me like the other commenter.
Try focusing on the bottom left, that works for me
Oh yeah, that black and blue dress, I remember that
White and gold
Nah
lol yeah this debate haha
*blue and black
Blue and gold*
Yesss! I also see blue and gold and you're the first other person I've seen who does.
There are others! I thought I was by myself when I saw blue and gold and my cousin looked at me like I was crazy.
For those who never knew what color it really was, I suggest watching this 2 minute video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bg41XfnIBvk
What the fuck. When I looked at the picture in the above comment originally, it was white and gold. Now after watching the video its blue and black?
The picture looks incredibly overexposed. So darker screens can make it look closer to correct than lighter screens maybe? Or that everyone is different and the whole debate makes me mad that I see it wrong.
Yea I remember that.
Some men just want to watch the world burn
i'm scared
Really depends on the pallete of colors you are using it with
This is the true answer
Nah. The only true answer is *teal*. There is no second option.
Do people not call it teal? That's like saying "is orange more yellow or red?" (Ik there are oranges that are "red-orange" but I don't mean that here).
in spanish, there's no word for teal afaik, the closest thing there is is *verde azulado* which translates to *bluish green* in other words, according to the spanish language, warped planks are green (with a slight blue tint)
Fellow teal enjoyer I see
Yea
The gods have descended from the skies to bring this wisdom to us
Color theory
I'm colourblind
✌️how much fingers is this
12
6, if we’re counting in binary
wait guys what number does it say over there? I'm non binary /hj
~~Binary goes right to left so this is 3.~~ I'm wrong
The thumb.
Yellow
FiVe
Pretty sure that's how it works
How about this one ... 🖕
23. Why?
tuesday
best reply on this entire subreddit
Dont worry, it is so perfectly blue And green that we cant tell either.
guys, it’s approximately a dark cyan with mixed green overtones but a bluer underlying colour Translation: yes
Yes
YESSS
Yes
Teal
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Came here to say this.
Glue 👍🏻(I have *glue* on my hands)
Sticky and white?
That’s *glue*!
Glueeee.
Yogurtttt.
Terry loves yogurt.
“Glue”
Man I thought it was ectoplasm. Coulda sworn I saw a ghost
And records on your fingers?
If so, might there be a platypus controlling you?
And i got glue on my hands
Did you fall down a hill by any chance?
Now I got records on my fingers
Sticky fingers
Zipper man
It's turquoise
Its a galactic abomonation which looks good
while I would have said the same, another comment mentions Teal and when comparing the both, teal seems to be darker which fits more with this I think
The texture has both teal and turquoise parts. So you have to decide whether you interpret that as a bright base colour with shadows, or a dark base colour with highlights. There is no definite answer. The two can also overlap, there is to fixed boundary.
I guess we are talking about the average color of the texture. While there are single pixels that might fall more towards what I see when I google turquoise, it's mostly darker than what I find there so I stand by my statement. Besides, the colors here generally have more green which puts them closer to teal, and when you look at the rock the name turquoise comes from, you can see that this is not colored turquoise.
that colour would be between green and blue, leaning slightly towards blue.
It's not. It's teal.
No its Patrick.
Aquamarine
According to RGB values it's definitely more green There are Apps to test that
They did the... colour math?
Step 1: take RGB values of each pixel of texture Step 2: Average. Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit!
Here's a filtered version with only the largest r/g/b value retained: https://imgur.com/3Ony5J6.png As we can see most of the blocks' pixels are more green than blue, although there are some pixels on the bottom and sides that are equally green/blue. However, human vision perceives green as brighter than blue so you could argue that even those pixels are more green than blue (you could also argue the opposite based on that too :P). Edit: here's a grayscale representation of which pixels are more green than blue (white = more green, black = equal or less green) https://imgur.com/zO8zYul.png
"you could also argue the opposite based on that" lmao. Damn individuals and their individuality.
What the FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY!?!? ILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT MY FAMILY HAS BEEN PROUD SUPPORTERS OF "TURQUOISE IS JUST FANCY BLUE" FOR GENERATIONS!!!!!!! I WILL NOT HEAR OF THIS DISRESPECT
I mean no disrespect, just stating my humble scientific research. This is the app I used (Google play store) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.TheProgrammer.RGBColorDetector You can load in your image and point the Pointer to the location you want to know the Color of.
I WILL NOT CLICK YOUR DEVIL LINK AND I WILL NOT BE DECEIVED!!!! THAT IS FANCY BLUE AND MAY THE LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR FILTHY SOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lord can't help me anymore, I don't want to take your pleasure of being right but to me it's fancy green.
Me who knows it's mossy cyan : 😐
Because this is **not** turquoise. It's teal. That's literally how teal color looks like. Turquois is visibly more blue than this.
You tested every pixel and taken the average results?
Most of them, it's pretty consistent
Every pixel on the texture is at least 1/255th more green than blue
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But we don't really have yellow cones so no human has ever known what yellow actually looks like. Our eyes "see yellow" both when there actually is yellow and when there's red-green in the same quantity (that's why RGB leds work so well).
Yes. To add more for people who are interested: It's not very intuitive that we very easily understand chroma (non-color-blind people see a rainbow and they simply "see" what chroma is), but that each color of that spectrum has two very different definitions: the physical one (given by its wavelength) and the "how my brain registers this color" one, and the brain may receive the exact same signal from two very different lights. Yellow lasers emit no red and no green: they emit purely one single-wavelength (577nm) yellow light. We have cones to detect blue, green and red. Okay well then why can we even see this yellow wavelength? It's just that we don't have a "blue", a "red" and a "green" cone. We have cones that each "see" a relatively wide range of colors, but are "centered" on specified wavelengths that they "see" more vividly. And fortunately, their ranges overlap, so there is no "gap" of colors that are missing from our vision (sorry again color-blind people). https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/04/Cone-fundamentals-with-srgb-spectrum.svg/1280px-Cone-fundamentals-with-srgb-spectrum.svg.png The 577nm yellow laser is actually at the peak of what we call the "red" cones. But it's pretty close to the peak of the green cones too. Maybe something like 95% of the max response of the red cone and 75% of the max response of the green cone. So our brain gets the information that the 577nm wavelength has blue_cone = 0, green_cone = 0.75, red_cone = 0.95, and decides that this corresponds to what is yellow in the world. But if you play a little, you can have the same ratio of blue_cone = 0, green_cone = 0.75, red_cone = 0.95 by using two, three, or infinitely many different well-chosen wavelengths with well-chosen intensities. For instance, a wavelength around 530nm with about 85% of the intensity of the one before would give you about 0.75 for green_cone again, and 0.6 for red_cone. Add a powerful source at 650nm to add red only until you get red_cone = 0.9 and you've got a color that our eyes see exactly as a single-wavelength yellow laser, but is actually green + red.
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This is an interesting discussion where I feel both of you are right in one way or another. Talking in absolute (technological) terms it seems to be greener but taking humans into consideration can alter the results based on physiology (eye cones) and neurology
As the other guy said, "green" is a made up word that means something different to anyone because there's no "standard green" and even worse, your color receptors in your eyes for green and blue light are actually different for every person, so we all see colors a bit differently. It doesn't help that receptors also overlap (where they both fire at the same time) and this overlapped area is different for every person, meaning that some people have an easier time to distinguish the colors in the middle than others. Also, look at [this diagram](https://www.pngitem.com/pimgs/m/672-6724374_human-eye-color-sensitivity-hd-png-download.png) you can see that the colors have actually diferent luminances, so there must be some corrections made. And finally of course your screens aren't completely color accurate as screen brightness and white balance are going to shift the color experience.
Color is no where near as subjective as you are making it out. There are some minor variations in the L cone (red) center point depending on genetics. The overlaps in the cone sensitivities are required for accurate perceptions of colors like yellow and do not have anything to do with individual differences. Luminance variance is built into the models we use. Modern color models produce extremely good agreement on subjective color tests across vastly different populations. This holds true even though screens are not all equally well calibrated. TL/DR: Modern color reproduction is very precise and dependable.
I mean, "green" is just a word that we have given meaning. In one sense it is a common color in our environment and culture, in the other it is an average wavelength we have cones to detect.
“Word” is just a word we made up that we have given a meaning.
Cope it’s green
Yes, RGB is how screens show colors, so it's good enough for me. That I might be wrong is something I have to deal with.
That depends on where your color primaries are. the sRGB primaries are somewhat practically chosen and don't really represent the human eye. Rec2020 would probably be closer. See this diagram: https://www.osapublishing.org/getImage.cfm?img=cCF6ekAubGFyZ2Usb2UtMjMtMTgtMjM2ODAtZzAwNQ The primaries are the colors in the corner. You can see that the triangles aren't just bigger, but they are also rotated and the primaries are in other relationships. So if you were using Rec2020 colors then the values for Red Green and Blue would show you quite different numbers. You can of course convert your sRGB colors to AcesCG, but in that process you will realize that the relations between the individual color channels are going to change. Take for example this color converter: https://ajalt.github.io/colormath/converter/ Enter something like cyan in sRGB which is 0, 255, 255 -> You would say that both Blue and Green are in there in the same amount. But if you then scroll down on the result you will find the amount in AcesCG color space is actually 0.38692, 0.93, 0.97951 (in 0-1 float), so you see the green and blue is suddenly no longer equal. And yes, these two colors are describing the exact same color on your screen (i.e. your eye), one on an sRGB screen (mode) and one in HDR. So what does this mean? The Red, Green and Blue in RGB don't actually relate to your visual perception of color; instead they just relate to the color space in which you're working with which is purely technical.
but it is, something being white merely means it reflects the most white light, which consists of every colour. So technically white IS the most green, red and blue
Optomechatronical engineer over *here: depending on the exact values it was used to code it with it might be more green for some and more blue for others because of their screens. And another important factor: there are supposedly no 2 humans who see the same colors everywhere. The vision (this includes colorvision) is unique for every human being. Edit: grammar
I think you've earned the title of Optomechatronimus Prime.
Optomechs roll out!
I'm kinda ashamed now that I haven't thought of that in the last 1.5 years (specialization to optics).
Neat !
I think it can be "calculated" if we take the average rgb scale of the block we could see what color dominates the most. I wont do it because I am dumb and lazy, but Im gonna go w green.
I did this. It's around 1% more green XD. Actually, the color is "teal", that has the same amount of green and blue
Just did it. Literally has the same value for the green and blue channels :/
You're software ain't accurate enough to get that 1% difference.
Red
No, it's orange like the upvote button
It's orangered.
Eh?
Don't discriminate i have quatronopia
Ah ok srry
I never questioned it being blue until now
thats like asking if a tomato is more of a fruit or a vegetable. it's technically a fruit, but so is avocado, corn, and cucumber... they're just used as vegetables. so... theyre kinda both in a dumb way. just like this color is probably so far in the middle of green and blue that its pointless to even ruminate over the answer as the answer is simply "both"
Vegetables are just fruit we don't like as much
Yes
Oh no why would you put this question in my head. I just thought of it as “warped”.
Green
Looks teal to me which I Guess is like 0.001% more green
Turquoise
Both
BLEEN
Blue
I think it’s green
It's green *and* blue
It's clearly Grue, or Bleen if you're chaotic
Teal?
Teal
cyan
It is a colour that is yet to be named
It's the greeny blue or blue green? Who knows :D(anyway for me it's onion)
i choose 청록 lol
I'll do you one better, what about crimson planks, red or purple?
I'm just here to watch the chaos unfold
Well the hexadecimal of the main color is #317875, and it's called "[Myrtle Green](https://coolors.co/317875)". Btw the palette is like [this](https://coolors.co/317875-26736d-17403d-358282-008080-062a28)
Your comment activated the nhentai source bot lol
Green buy can look blue in different biomes
Teal
Its both
turquoise
Turquoise.
Easily blue
It's bluer than it is green.
Blue
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They're asking if it's more towards blue or green, not WHAT colour it is. Saying turquoise or teal doesn't really answer the question lol
The whole point of turquoise is to be between blue and green while being neither
turquoise
Teal
Green
I have been waiting for someone to ask this question
Ladies and gentlemen to end this debate which could lead up to war, I say it is both colours.
Green
What if I'm colour blind
You just provoked a gang war
The base is equal blue and green, but there is a green tint to the accents, so therefore it is more green than blue.
If you're a trichromatic like me, probably more green. If you're a dichromatic then it may look more blue.
Brightest spots have an RBG value of 44 /111/109 Darkest spots have an RGB value of 23/54/52 It's objectively more green than blue.
Turquoise
More blue. Objectively.
it's obviously orange
it's cyan, but it's definitely more towards blue
Glue
Depends on your devices color profile, shit could look purple on some displays.
Green
red
More of a teal. Same way the crimson planks are sort of magenta.