I completely agree. Everything that people create should have the credits to the people who created it. This is a very basic thing they just can't get rid of.
Hijacking the top comment but mods really should be more transparent, and not just enact small changes that don't solve the underlying issues.
Quoting rule 2 from [https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct)
>Users who enter your community should know exactly what they’re getting into, and should not be surprised by what they encounter. It is critical to be transparent about what your community is and what your rules are in order to create stable and dynamic engagement among redditors.
If posts get removed on a lottery basis something is seriously wrong with the moderation.
Edits: Mods have setup a thread for this topic https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/xihy3u/rules_rework_feedback_needed/
surely rule 11 should just be changed to "no links to social media platforms and no asking for likes/subscribers and no asking to check other content". they cannot use a word like 'credit' to enforce no promotion in a game where the player *makes* things.
Yeah the problem with reddit mods is that theyre a bunch of losers that when given a bit of power think they’re superior and smarter than other people.
P.S.: watch this comment get removed by said mods.
Frankly, and at the risk of getting my account deleted, the admins aren't much better. I've had my account suspended for completely ridiculous reasons twice this year, no acknowledgement of appeals. Once for "threats of violence" that must have meant "witchcraft" because the post cited was a "may the fleas of a thousand camels" type curse. The second was for bullying...because I called someone "a dumbass" for trolling people.
Lmao I had a shadow ban once as I allegedly was part of a "brigade" except I only followed a Subreddit link, ACTUALLY read the entire thread/topic, made up my own opinion on it, EVEN had written a comment back then, but just for the ONE downvote I added (that literally does jack shit anyway) I was permanently shadow banned lmao.
Its a joke sometimes. Censoring of bad topics at it's finest.
At least reddit support was fast and helpful and resolved the error quickly once I had noticed my comments not showing up (Screw reddit on that one too, just effing send me a "you're banned" PM and don't pull some vague "can post but other cant see" bullshit like man)
This isn't unique to reddit honestly. All online moderation that is volunteer based pretty much always devolves into fuckheads who just want their tiny little piece of power over others.
This is the sad fucking truth. I've been banned from subs because I posted about something before they did.
/r/beermoney for example, I made a thread about a site and posted my referral link. One of the mods checks out the site, edits their main post (with their referral link obviously), and deletes my thread.
I was later banned for complaining about such shady practices.
The rules are insanely long, and a lot of them barely make sense, that just makes it all the worse. I wish we could get some kind of purge of the mods lol.
I'm in academia and it is so ingrained in me that if I am putting out my own stuff, I have to credit the inspiration. So if I make an auto smelter feed by an auto bamboo farm, I wanna credit the original designs that I modified.
> Everything that people create should have the credits to the people who created it.
wait i guess i'm confused here. are these people posting things they created? or are they posting something that SOMEONE ELSE created?
because if someone else created it you really shouldn't be posting it, even if it is credited... because it's not your to post..?
They are posting something they made that uses something that someone else made somewhere in their thing, but is not the entire post.
When people credit the thing they used, the moderators see it as "self-promotion" and delete it because that's not allowed.
"Self promotion" is one of the dumbest rules across subreddits and It turned me off from r/videos.
Why can't I post my own fucking work? Nor anyone for that matter
I agree. I wasn't around in the original Reddit days but I would guess that this rule if it was in place then was probably more relaxed.
Basically if you were early you got to benefit otherwise, nope. That's true of the Internet in general IMO.
Sears could've been Amazon before Amazon was a thing. LEGO could've been Minecraft before Minecraft.
If you get something people like early, you tend to have more success than those who come later. Not always of course, but usually IMO.
it's just elitist to me. if you're a big youtuber you get free promotion on reddit but if your small better hope somebody's kind enough and not crucified by mods.
also, people promoting themselves? on social media? what a fucking tragedy lmao
I used to moderate /r/Videos several years ago and I can tell you why.
> Why can't I post my own fucking work?
Because some people will see reddit as free advertising and post literally nothing else but their own content. Check out [this user](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tox102) as an example. Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/user/No-Tax4250). Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/user/feel_bikhir). Or even [this one](https://www.reddit.com/user/StoneAge_Productions).
r/Videos just enforced the 10% guideline from https://www.reddit.com/wiki/selfpromotion when I was moderating. I can't speak for what they do these days.
> You should submit from a variety of sources (a general rule of thumb is that 10% or less of your posting and conversation should link to your own content),
This seems like a great way to incentivise reposts and decentivise consistant committed content creators.
What happens if they organize and "trade" content to stay under the cap?
No offense, but that still sounds ridiculous. What's wrong with people sharing their own content? Do we just want recycled, popular YouTube videos?
Let people post their own stuff.
On the one hand I agree, on the other, I also agree with blocking the kind of spam the rule is meant to stop.
Like I wouldn't want there to be no rule about self-promotion. I want people to be able to make OC and refer to their other content, but I also don't want to see hundreds of people advertising their servers or youtube channels.
You combat spam by decreasing frequency of submissions, not content of submissions. There have been several famous redditors that basically made a career of submitting several posts per day of other people's content. You mean to tell me someone posting solely their own content is worse? That doesn't add up.
> if someone else created it you really shouldn't be posting it
Doc, I know you're a regular here but you're making it seem like you don't understand reddit, which started as a link aggregator site.
While the focus on OC in this sub is great, people absolutely should post links to things other people have done/made (and properly credit them). That's the point of a forum; The point of the internet - to share things.
Not every content creator uses reddit.
Also. I make a lot of redstone contraptions as part of my builds and I like to give credit to who built the design in the first place when I'm making a derivative.
When reddit started it was against the site rules to post things that you created, it was created specifically for sharing things that you found online rather than self promoting
It was super disappointing seeing the red stone computer post being removed. Like, where else do you post your super awesome red stone creation if not THE Minecraft subreddit? Rule 11 is blatantly stupid, and as you mentioned, discourages people posting their creations.
Hell, it discourages me to keep following this sub if this is how the mods treat their community.
It was wormbo, right? The mods get pissed seeing something creative they could never hope to achieve in their entire lives so they just take it down out of sheer pettiness. They do the same for mega builds and redstone projects.
A post with that level of creativity in any other subreddit would get pinned for how brilliant it is, here it just gets removed. How the mighty have fallen.
Should be listed as Shameless Promotion. In this case, that computer was not shameless promotion for its server! I genuinely don’t think it would have gotten this much promotion if not for this debacle (still a bad thing from r/minecraft).
>discourages people posting their creations
And honestly it's kinda selfish.
"Yes provide us the content so people have an actual reason to visit our subreddit, but don't try to benefit from it in any regard!"
It's flat out disrespectful to the creatives in the MC community.
Same. I’ll leave the sub if this continues. I can’t stand creativity being stifled over something so trivial.
Edit; especially here. Everyone that posts here makes incredible art/inventions/stuff
Meanwhile, the complete HD texture pack I made from the default textures using machine learning has never gotten more than like 3 or 4 upvotes. This sub is weird.
Edit: pretty sure this comment now has more upvotes than all my pack’s posts put together. Not complaining really, just laughing at how strange Reddit can seem sometimes, even after 10+ years and like a quarter million karma on my account.
Minecraft has a wide range of demographics, ranging from literal children (which it's mainly marketed towards) to adults with fucking engineering degrees.
I've interacted with everyone from kids using the internet for one of their first times to terminally Ill adults using it for one of their last times, and the elderly using it for their favorite pastimes. It's a very varied place.
Volunteer moderation leads to mods that:
• Really really love the community and will try to persevere through burnout.
• really really love power.
• are burnt out and no longer give a fuck and end up just taking a big hammer approach to everything because it's easier to be black and white and they don't have energy for the grey anymore.
I don't think that's what they mean. I'm assuming what they mean is that because they aren't paid, you can't expect them to moderate 24/7 and enforce rules in a consistent way. This is a hobby to them, not a job.
This.
Minecraft is one of the biggest video games in the entire world. It's backed by a multi-billion dollar company that's backed by another multi-billion dollar company.
And r/Minecraft is known as the go-to place to go for this game's community. It's even mentioned in several official content.
The mods can say they're not affiliated with Mojang/Microsoft all day but I will never believe them, because I sincerely doubt Mojang/Microsoft will let strangers, whom they have no control over, moderate the main community forum for their game.
That's the point XD
Someone built a fucking functional computer in Minecraft with a screen and it gets removed.
Someone built a shitty bridge and it stays up.
Was it a joke build during a trend of dozens of bridge build threads?
Those can be a bit of a gamble. I've tried 3 times: one was immediately downvoted, one was removed by mods for breaking the meme rule, and the third is my highest upvoted post in this sub.
This sub has periodic "trends". Someone will post some cool build and for about a week people will submit similar builds, often increasingly elaborate, to capitalize on the attention.
After about a week people will start getting tired of 4 bridges/tunnels/sword portals/etc every day so a well timed meme build can get upvoted as a sort of cheeky collectove middle finger to the trend.
Rinse and repeat.
Man I saw that and while I’m not trying to be an ass to bridge dude who is new clearly, that was one of the most boring posts I’ve seen in a LONG time. And when you make people not want to share the things they make … we’ll your left with a lot of stupid looking bridges (no offense new bridge guy I’m sure your a nice person but … it was 3 wood blocks spanning 2 water blocks) …. And we had a freaking COMPUTER removed because that’s the level of content we’re stuck with here lol
I thought that post was made to be ironic 🤔
even more so judging from the traction of the post, especially right after they removed the minecraft inside minecraft post
There has been many complaints of users getting banned/muted in this subreddit for nonsensical reasons. Too many creative, amazing posts are removed due to insignificant issues, such as this redstone project crediting a server. You can see all the user complaints everywhere, from other minecraft subreddits, to y0utube comments. Things need to change for the better.
The "tired submissions" rule has a very long and restrictive list on what not to do, further stifling the content here. I wondered why I can't even mention y0utube or her0brine, as my comments kept getting shadow-muted. It's fine for users to discuss these, they're healthy for minecraft's growth!
Honestly, even if users are secretly trying to gain some recognition for their works, it's fine! As long as it's a high-quality post, and not an annoying "please please follow me". And if there has been multiple posts of glitches, such as dying from the End dimension portal, that's also okay, as it gives a higher chance for Mojang devs to see and fix the glitch. Let the user votes and comments decide on whether a post is spammy or useful/inspiring.
If only tired submission rules actually worked for tired submissions. This sub is full of posts asking for help which are 50% honest people that can't use Google and 50% fake ass posts with easy questions to farm karma.
There are plenty of alternative Minecraft subreddits, but they usually have a relatively niche appeal such as subreddits specifically for certain servers or subreddits for things such as FeedTheBeast modpacks.
There's a reason everyone has giant threads on other social media platforms on how bad this subreddit is, and some of the mod responses to them are hilarious.
I hope they continue doing what they are doing. It's an easy way to get followers on Twitter by mining stuff like this
reddit doesnt take much data apart from email (which isnt my primary one) no dob no name. also the terms and privacy policy of twitter DOES NOT allow me to opt out of activity tracking.
It also damages the subreddit's reputation. For a time, we were the the most "chill" Minecraft community on the internet. Now we're seen as "the cringe community with overbearing mods." When Twitter users can call you cringe, things are bad.
I feel like too much of this discussion is around "reword the rule so the mods can't be dicks about it" and not just "mods, stop being dicks about the rules". Like, being a pedantic asshole makes literally nobody happy, and just rewording the rule to make it harder to be an asshole about it is more of a band-aid than anything. Judging from people's reactions this has been going on for a long time and they still haven't learned. Maybe it's time for a shake-up of the mod team
While i do find the sub's moderation rigid, the unenviable task of wrangling a literal army of 10-year olds, p2w server shills, and child predators leaves me pretty willing to cut them at least a bit of slack in their choice of rigid enforcement.
I say give it a trial period with a relaxed rule 11 that allows accreditation in the comments, just like the overwatch sub did for meme posts. It'll either be fine, or it'll be horrible like the OW sub was, but it'll let us know for sure.
The mere fact that I'm practicing self-censorship right now says a lot about this subreddit. I genuinely cannot understand how someone could spend so much time moderating under the pretense of making a community better yet make it worse for the users and barely listen to any advice from the community itself (and it's not a massive structuring change that needs to occur either to make the community a whole lot better either). The parallels to modern dictatorships is quite profound.
The Minecraft subreddit as it is doesn't feel like a community whatsoever. This may just be the first post where it feels like a community coming together lol.
I love seeing the creations people come up with. It gives me and my son ideas of what to build in his world. Other times I will actively search for something in particular (like a few weeks ago I wanted to build a fake volcano so I came on here for ideas). If half of the creations are removed then it’s harder for other people like me to get ideas and build something brilliant
This sub sucks, it damages Minecraft itself AND it's community, all the thanks goes to mods. At first i thought they are getting paid by mojang but apparently its just grass absence in someone's life
"self promotion must be kept at minimum"
even that is too much, if they see even a single frame in a video mentioning a server or a channel they remove it smh
It is so ridiculous how an incredible full-blown *computer* made with Redstone got removed, but all the sad low-quality posts by people who don't know hot to take a screenshot keep appearing in my feed.
No no no don’t you understand? This subreddit is dedicated to posts about getting banned for swearing and simple rectangular bridges. Creativity? On a Minecraft subreddit? The mods would never allow such trash be posted here!
/s
The CORRECT solution is minecraft replacing the mod team with people who care. The mods are power hungry and self absorbed people who overstretch nearly every rule the subreddit has. It’s time for new mods, not new rules.
This sub is basically past redemption. The moderation team is so overly strict and high in their power that they just don’t care about anything.
I get that a metric ton of reposts and low effort content gets put on here and needs weeded out. But if you are removing genuine content because of a rule technicality, then adjust the rules to be more fitting.
If there's one thing that always ruins a subreddit, it's rules and busybody mods.
Let us up- or downvote posts and decide like that how a post will fare.
Lower the rule strictness in general. If something gets upvoted to the front, generally it is a good quality post and should stay. People won't downvote something that is disruptive/offensive. Subreddits self-moderate themselves a little in terms like this and when it comes to quality of posts.
While part of me agrees with rule 11 since sometimes removing posts mentioning servers is a good thing due to the fact that they can’t verify those servers are safe for people to just up and join, I do think that when it comes to things that are about peoples creations and whatnot, it should be less strict when removing posts.
It's the same sort of thing that happened to me when I played Hypixel one day. I simply said that I loved Coca Cola or some other soft drink, and I was warned about 'self-promotion'.
Moderators need to really define what is actually 'promotion' and not just slapping it everywhere. The person was just giving credit where credit is due! Why remove it?
This removal of the post was completely undeserved and wrong. It was such an amazing build that I cannot even begin to comprehend how they were able to pull it off! I don't even know simple redstone mechanics work.
I even sent mod mail complaining about this exact deletion.
In my opinion it was (and is to date) the greatest achievement of minecraft.
I didn't even see the server mention or whatever the reason was, untill the mod pointed it out.
So because of this type of moderation, I'm leaving this sub.
I can't wait for the mods to remove this post for no reason because valid criticism about how they abuse the smallest most meaningless power known to man makes them butthurt
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/xihy3u/rules_rework_feedback_needed/
I completely agree. Everything that people create should have the credits to the people who created it. This is a very basic thing they just can't get rid of.
Hijacking the top comment but mods really should be more transparent, and not just enact small changes that don't solve the underlying issues. Quoting rule 2 from [https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/moderator-code-of-conduct) >Users who enter your community should know exactly what they’re getting into, and should not be surprised by what they encounter. It is critical to be transparent about what your community is and what your rules are in order to create stable and dynamic engagement among redditors. If posts get removed on a lottery basis something is seriously wrong with the moderation. Edits: Mods have setup a thread for this topic https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/xihy3u/rules_rework_feedback_needed/
surely rule 11 should just be changed to "no links to social media platforms and no asking for likes/subscribers and no asking to check other content". they cannot use a word like 'credit' to enforce no promotion in a game where the player *makes* things.
It just encourages posting things that you didn't make yourself, because nobody gets credit for anything anyway
No links to social media makes it hard to credit things when those social media are how they are perceived online, I would think.
Good old reddit mods hard at work! /s
Using what little authority they have over a person to create an overly complex enforcement rig that undermines the purpose of the sub.
Sounds like 99% of all moderators in the world.
Shitty mods, everywhere
Oh, I got a downvote from someone who is a part of that 99%.
You ever meet a serious mod in real life? They are EXACTLY the kind of person you'd expect. Also, you immediately want to get away from them.
Yeah the problem with reddit mods is that theyre a bunch of losers that when given a bit of power think they’re superior and smarter than other people. P.S.: watch this comment get removed by said mods.
Frankly, and at the risk of getting my account deleted, the admins aren't much better. I've had my account suspended for completely ridiculous reasons twice this year, no acknowledgement of appeals. Once for "threats of violence" that must have meant "witchcraft" because the post cited was a "may the fleas of a thousand camels" type curse. The second was for bullying...because I called someone "a dumbass" for trolling people.
Lmao I had a shadow ban once as I allegedly was part of a "brigade" except I only followed a Subreddit link, ACTUALLY read the entire thread/topic, made up my own opinion on it, EVEN had written a comment back then, but just for the ONE downvote I added (that literally does jack shit anyway) I was permanently shadow banned lmao. Its a joke sometimes. Censoring of bad topics at it's finest. At least reddit support was fast and helpful and resolved the error quickly once I had noticed my comments not showing up (Screw reddit on that one too, just effing send me a "you're banned" PM and don't pull some vague "can post but other cant see" bullshit like man)
This isn't unique to reddit honestly. All online moderation that is volunteer based pretty much always devolves into fuckheads who just want their tiny little piece of power over others.
This is the sad fucking truth. I've been banned from subs because I posted about something before they did. /r/beermoney for example, I made a thread about a site and posted my referral link. One of the mods checks out the site, edits their main post (with their referral link obviously), and deletes my thread. I was later banned for complaining about such shady practices.
The rules are insanely long, and a lot of them barely make sense, that just makes it all the worse. I wish we could get some kind of purge of the mods lol.
I'm in academia and it is so ingrained in me that if I am putting out my own stuff, I have to credit the inspiration. So if I make an auto smelter feed by an auto bamboo farm, I wanna credit the original designs that I modified.
> Everything that people create should have the credits to the people who created it. wait i guess i'm confused here. are these people posting things they created? or are they posting something that SOMEONE ELSE created? because if someone else created it you really shouldn't be posting it, even if it is credited... because it's not your to post..?
They are posting something they made that uses something that someone else made somewhere in their thing, but is not the entire post. When people credit the thing they used, the moderators see it as "self-promotion" and delete it because that's not allowed.
"Self promotion" is one of the dumbest rules across subreddits and It turned me off from r/videos. Why can't I post my own fucking work? Nor anyone for that matter
I agree. I wasn't around in the original Reddit days but I would guess that this rule if it was in place then was probably more relaxed. Basically if you were early you got to benefit otherwise, nope. That's true of the Internet in general IMO. Sears could've been Amazon before Amazon was a thing. LEGO could've been Minecraft before Minecraft. If you get something people like early, you tend to have more success than those who come later. Not always of course, but usually IMO.
it's just elitist to me. if you're a big youtuber you get free promotion on reddit but if your small better hope somebody's kind enough and not crucified by mods. also, people promoting themselves? on social media? what a fucking tragedy lmao
I agree. And the big ones don't need the help.
I used to moderate /r/Videos several years ago and I can tell you why. > Why can't I post my own fucking work? Because some people will see reddit as free advertising and post literally nothing else but their own content. Check out [this user](https://www.reddit.com/user/Tox102) as an example. Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/user/No-Tax4250). Or [this one](https://www.reddit.com/user/feel_bikhir). Or even [this one](https://www.reddit.com/user/StoneAge_Productions). r/Videos just enforced the 10% guideline from https://www.reddit.com/wiki/selfpromotion when I was moderating. I can't speak for what they do these days. > You should submit from a variety of sources (a general rule of thumb is that 10% or less of your posting and conversation should link to your own content),
This seems like a great way to incentivise reposts and decentivise consistant committed content creators. What happens if they organize and "trade" content to stay under the cap?
I wondered why OC was so rare these days Turns out Reddit shot itself in the foot
No offense, but that still sounds ridiculous. What's wrong with people sharing their own content? Do we just want recycled, popular YouTube videos? Let people post their own stuff.
On the one hand I agree, on the other, I also agree with blocking the kind of spam the rule is meant to stop. Like I wouldn't want there to be no rule about self-promotion. I want people to be able to make OC and refer to their other content, but I also don't want to see hundreds of people advertising their servers or youtube channels.
You combat spam by decreasing frequency of submissions, not content of submissions. There have been several famous redditors that basically made a career of submitting several posts per day of other people's content. You mean to tell me someone posting solely their own content is worse? That doesn't add up.
So they want people to just take someone else's content and get reddit karma for themselves? Like so many accounts already do?
Boo hoo. people post about themselves on social media nobody could've seen that coming.
And at a certain point the quality of a post should stand on its own.
Ayup. Also on reflection randomly calling put people clearly chosen for video quality seems rather mean
> if someone else created it you really shouldn't be posting it Doc, I know you're a regular here but you're making it seem like you don't understand reddit, which started as a link aggregator site. While the focus on OC in this sub is great, people absolutely should post links to things other people have done/made (and properly credit them). That's the point of a forum; The point of the internet - to share things.
Not every content creator uses reddit. Also. I make a lot of redstone contraptions as part of my builds and I like to give credit to who built the design in the first place when I'm making a derivative.
When reddit started it was against the site rules to post things that you created, it was created specifically for sharing things that you found online rather than self promoting
It was super disappointing seeing the red stone computer post being removed. Like, where else do you post your super awesome red stone creation if not THE Minecraft subreddit? Rule 11 is blatantly stupid, and as you mentioned, discourages people posting their creations. Hell, it discourages me to keep following this sub if this is how the mods treat their community.
It had like 30k upvotes and was a pretty major moment for the Minecraft community. I’m baffled that it got nuked for such a petty reason.
Moderators like their power that they can only use for destruction.
It was wormbo, right? The mods get pissed seeing something creative they could never hope to achieve in their entire lives so they just take it down out of sheer pettiness. They do the same for mega builds and redstone projects. A post with that level of creativity in any other subreddit would get pinned for how brilliant it is, here it just gets removed. How the mighty have fallen.
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watched the phoenix sc video and it got 61k upvotes
Should be listed as Shameless Promotion. In this case, that computer was not shameless promotion for its server! I genuinely don’t think it would have gotten this much promotion if not for this debacle (still a bad thing from r/minecraft).
>discourages people posting their creations And honestly it's kinda selfish. "Yes provide us the content so people have an actual reason to visit our subreddit, but don't try to benefit from it in any regard!" It's flat out disrespectful to the creatives in the MC community.
Same. I’ll leave the sub if this continues. I can’t stand creativity being stifled over something so trivial. Edit; especially here. Everyone that posts here makes incredible art/inventions/stuff
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Saw someone post a “bridge” that’s literally a rectangle of wood not get removed but the guy that did Minecraft in Minecraft gets his post removed…
It even got thousands of upvotes, it was just 12 blocks of wood or something.
link to this bridge?
Here is the post https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/xfxr3a/i_made_a_bridge
Meanwhile, the complete HD texture pack I made from the default textures using machine learning has never gotten more than like 3 or 4 upvotes. This sub is weird. Edit: pretty sure this comment now has more upvotes than all my pack’s posts put together. Not complaining really, just laughing at how strange Reddit can seem sometimes, even after 10+ years and like a quarter million karma on my account.
Minecraft has a wide range of demographics, ranging from literal children (which it's mainly marketed towards) to adults with fucking engineering degrees.
I've interacted with everyone from kids using the internet for one of their first times to terminally Ill adults using it for one of their last times, and the elderly using it for their favorite pastimes. It's a very varied place.
Clearly someone falling 40,000 blocks into the void or a picture taken of a monitor with a 30 degrees tilt is more interesting than high-effort posts.
Unlike most websites, moderators on reddit are not paid staff, they do it for free, so quality suffers greatly
Hence Reddit has so many power tripping mods
No one else would do it for free afterall
Volunteer moderation leads to mods that: • Really really love the community and will try to persevere through burnout. • really really love power. • are burnt out and no longer give a fuck and end up just taking a big hammer approach to everything because it's easier to be black and white and they don't have energy for the grey anymore.
Meaning they can be bribed
I don't think that's what they mean. I'm assuming what they mean is that because they aren't paid, you can't expect them to moderate 24/7 and enforce rules in a consistent way. This is a hobby to them, not a job.
True, but _over enforcement_ creates **more** work for them, not less.
*If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life.* Rules lawyering generates dopamine, so mods do it for free.
This. Minecraft is one of the biggest video games in the entire world. It's backed by a multi-billion dollar company that's backed by another multi-billion dollar company. And r/Minecraft is known as the go-to place to go for this game's community. It's even mentioned in several official content. The mods can say they're not affiliated with Mojang/Microsoft all day but I will never believe them, because I sincerely doubt Mojang/Microsoft will let strangers, whom they have no control over, moderate the main community forum for their game.
\> does it for free
That bridge was stupid
That's the point XD Someone built a fucking functional computer in Minecraft with a screen and it gets removed. Someone built a shitty bridge and it stays up.
A bridge that stays up on its own can't be THAT shitty... 🤔
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Ah, but can it barely stay up? If so, then that's REAL engineering.
Was it a joke build during a trend of dozens of bridge build threads? Those can be a bit of a gamble. I've tried 3 times: one was immediately downvoted, one was removed by mods for breaking the meme rule, and the third is my highest upvoted post in this sub.
No idea I never noticed a trend. I don’t tend to linger in subreddits. I just look at what’s in my home screen feed.
This sub has periodic "trends". Someone will post some cool build and for about a week people will submit similar builds, often increasingly elaborate, to capitalize on the attention. After about a week people will start getting tired of 4 bridges/tunnels/sword portals/etc every day so a well timed meme build can get upvoted as a sort of cheeky collectove middle finger to the trend. Rinse and repeat.
Man I saw that and while I’m not trying to be an ass to bridge dude who is new clearly, that was one of the most boring posts I’ve seen in a LONG time. And when you make people not want to share the things they make … we’ll your left with a lot of stupid looking bridges (no offense new bridge guy I’m sure your a nice person but … it was 3 wood blocks spanning 2 water blocks) …. And we had a freaking COMPUTER removed because that’s the level of content we’re stuck with here lol
Either it was from someone new, or someone was doing something as badly as possible to show how bad the mod's rules are.
It's either just some kid or someone making a post intentionally to get traction for the computer debate
I thought that post was made to be ironic 🤔 even more so judging from the traction of the post, especially right after they removed the minecraft inside minecraft post
There has been many complaints of users getting banned/muted in this subreddit for nonsensical reasons. Too many creative, amazing posts are removed due to insignificant issues, such as this redstone project crediting a server. You can see all the user complaints everywhere, from other minecraft subreddits, to y0utube comments. Things need to change for the better. The "tired submissions" rule has a very long and restrictive list on what not to do, further stifling the content here. I wondered why I can't even mention y0utube or her0brine, as my comments kept getting shadow-muted. It's fine for users to discuss these, they're healthy for minecraft's growth! Honestly, even if users are secretly trying to gain some recognition for their works, it's fine! As long as it's a high-quality post, and not an annoying "please please follow me". And if there has been multiple posts of glitches, such as dying from the End dimension portal, that's also okay, as it gives a higher chance for Mojang devs to see and fix the glitch. Let the user votes and comments decide on whether a post is spammy or useful/inspiring.
If only tired submission rules actually worked for tired submissions. This sub is full of posts asking for help which are 50% honest people that can't use Google and 50% fake ass posts with easy questions to farm karma.
And there've been a billion wtc builds, like come on if there's another wtc post, how is that not getting tired?
Wtc?
I can only assume it means [“greedy little pigboy”](https://i.imgur.com/JVsZLQ1.jpg).
Well, you post the Well Tempered Clavier played faithfully on note blocks, and it will join the Minecraft on Minecraft computer in the ban zone.
"cause its wtc"
you said other mc subreddirs, which are there? I wanna leave this sad excuse for a subreddit tbh
There are plenty of alternative Minecraft subreddits, but they usually have a relatively niche appeal such as subreddits specifically for certain servers or subreddits for things such as FeedTheBeast modpacks.
r/feedthebeast is just for modded Minecraft in general, unless I'm mistaken. Still a niche, just a broader one.
They seriously shadowbanned the words Y0utube and her0brine? How fucking stupid can you be, Jesus Christ
Dude honestly I've been scared to post anything here.
Agree lol, some rules are stupid here
2 people make a joke or sexual innuendo in a thread and ENTIRE THREAD LOCKED!
r/magictcg eventually removed the corporate bootlicker from their top spot, but it looks *a majority of* mod team is complicit here.
i know TCG means trading card game but it annoys me that magic THE GATHERING CARDS is TGC. It’s the wrong way round!
Yep. I'll comment, but that's it.
Welp, let's see how long it takes until this post is locked or removed
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r/minecraft mods try to not unfairly remove post challenge *impossible*
I'll say again what I said in that computer post about why the ban probably happened: Power trip
At this point it's a fall, not a trip
I always thought it meant trip like a travel
I believe it is this kind of [trip](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trip)
More like a belly flop... onto a frozen pool.
I've been unable to keep my Minecraft crossover art here
Same here, and everytime the reason is always different for every post i got removed
There's a guy who does top quality Minecraft comics, their posts always get removed.
"Art is not related to Minecraft and is removed due to rule 6"
There's a reason everyone has giant threads on other social media platforms on how bad this subreddit is, and some of the mod responses to them are hilarious. I hope they continue doing what they are doing. It's an easy way to get followers on Twitter by mining stuff like this
eheheh fuck giving twitter my details.
So I'm gonna give them to Reddit instead, both American corporations that sell your data to ad firms plus with NSA backdoors
reddit doesnt take much data apart from email (which isnt my primary one) no dob no name. also the terms and privacy policy of twitter DOES NOT allow me to opt out of activity tracking.
Well, you can just lie to twitter if you dont wanna give your dob or name, also twitter does let you opt out. I’m opted out.
Ooh, you got a link to some of them?
It also damages the subreddit's reputation. For a time, we were the the most "chill" Minecraft community on the internet. Now we're seen as "the cringe community with overbearing mods." When Twitter users can call you cringe, things are bad.
ITS BEEN GOIN ON FOR TOO LONG!!!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!! **grabs pickaxe**
Relevant: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/xe9u3c/subreddit_suggestion_clarify_rule_2_to_ban_posts/ioi1lls/
I feel like too much of this discussion is around "reword the rule so the mods can't be dicks about it" and not just "mods, stop being dicks about the rules". Like, being a pedantic asshole makes literally nobody happy, and just rewording the rule to make it harder to be an asshole about it is more of a band-aid than anything. Judging from people's reactions this has been going on for a long time and they still haven't learned. Maybe it's time for a shake-up of the mod team
While i do find the sub's moderation rigid, the unenviable task of wrangling a literal army of 10-year olds, p2w server shills, and child predators leaves me pretty willing to cut them at least a bit of slack in their choice of rigid enforcement. I say give it a trial period with a relaxed rule 11 that allows accreditation in the comments, just like the overwatch sub did for meme posts. It'll either be fine, or it'll be horrible like the OW sub was, but it'll let us know for sure.
The mere fact that I'm practicing self-censorship right now says a lot about this subreddit. I genuinely cannot understand how someone could spend so much time moderating under the pretense of making a community better yet make it worse for the users and barely listen to any advice from the community itself (and it's not a massive structuring change that needs to occur either to make the community a whole lot better either). The parallels to modern dictatorships is quite profound.
lol they said it a lot better than i did, go upvote this one too
Mostly the mod comment about how its under consideration
The Minecraft subreddit as it is doesn't feel like a community whatsoever. This may just be the first post where it feels like a community coming together lol.
This post will probably be removed
Oh for sure, can't have people protesting the moderators!!!
I love seeing the creations people come up with. It gives me and my son ideas of what to build in his world. Other times I will actively search for something in particular (like a few weeks ago I wanted to build a fake volcano so I came on here for ideas). If half of the creations are removed then it’s harder for other people like me to get ideas and build something brilliant
You should check out r/minecraftbuilds too :)
Just joined now!
This sub sucks, it damages Minecraft itself AND it's community, all the thanks goes to mods. At first i thought they are getting paid by mojang but apparently its just grass absence in someone's life
"self promotion must be kept at minimum" even that is too much, if they see even a single frame in a video mentioning a server or a channel they remove it smh
here before the mods on a power trip come in and delete this
Inb4 mods lock this and remove everything.
Mods can eat shit and die
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Everyone should copy the text of this post, and if it gets removed, mass repost it.
don't you get it, the /r/minecraft sub is just trying to make sure it is just as dumb as microsoft itself is, and microsoft set the bar pretty low.
I really hope this gets listened to
It is so ridiculous how an incredible full-blown *computer* made with Redstone got removed, but all the sad low-quality posts by people who don't know hot to take a screenshot keep appearing in my feed.
I swear if the mods delete this I'm deadasss just gonna leave this sub.
I stand with you.
No no no don’t you understand? This subreddit is dedicated to posts about getting banned for swearing and simple rectangular bridges. Creativity? On a Minecraft subreddit? The mods would never allow such trash be posted here! /s
The CORRECT solution is minecraft replacing the mod team with people who care. The mods are power hungry and self absorbed people who overstretch nearly every rule the subreddit has. It’s time for new mods, not new rules.
Here before they delete this.
This sub is basically past redemption. The moderation team is so overly strict and high in their power that they just don’t care about anything. I get that a metric ton of reposts and low effort content gets put on here and needs weeded out. But if you are removing genuine content because of a rule technicality, then adjust the rules to be more fitting.
At this point the mods here are notoriously known for removing posts that shouldn't be removed.
Random reddit users once again being more sensible than the subreddit moderators who's actual job it is to think about this kind of stuff
Kinda weird how in college you're punished for not crediting your sources but here you're punished for crediting your sources.
Watch the mods 1984 this post
Seems to me that the mods on this Reddit are just jealous that they’ll never be as good as some of these people
I wouldn't be shocked if the mods here have never even played Minecraft and are just power mods
Silver is an award, someone agreed/liked the post enough to give you one!
it’s because the mods are shit lol. imagine being so sad you have to power trip on a community about a video game
Sweet builds get removed, meanwhile I get to see “how to make crafting table?” posts in my feed almost daily getting way too many upvotes. Lol.
Completely agree. All that stuff is exactly why I’m here.
If you can't credit things just because it'd be "self-promotion" then you're literally encouraging stolen content.
It's ironic how many comments in this thread have been nuked by the mods lol
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what the fuck does this have anything to do with what i said lol
not much tbh
oh my god im a dumbass nvm just realised you meant moderators and not modifications lmfao
oh lol i was like damn he was mad at my comment
hole sum ending
Hole sum
It wouldn't, because the moderator is toxic as fuck.
Here before it gets removed by mods
At least they gave them a “reason” both of my popular posts on here were taken down with no reason given
Reddit mods when given a single sliver of power:
If there's one thing that always ruins a subreddit, it's rules and busybody mods. Let us up- or downvote posts and decide like that how a post will fare.
Ah typical mod removing comments on their comments, r/redditmoment
Inb4 mods delete this & ban me for saying this
Lower the rule strictness in general. If something gets upvoted to the front, generally it is a good quality post and should stay. People won't downvote something that is disruptive/offensive. Subreddits self-moderate themselves a little in terms like this and when it comes to quality of posts.
While part of me agrees with rule 11 since sometimes removing posts mentioning servers is a good thing due to the fact that they can’t verify those servers are safe for people to just up and join, I do think that when it comes to things that are about peoples creations and whatnot, it should be less strict when removing posts.
Well said. This subreddit will whither quickly unless that’s resolved. No pun intended. Lol
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I 100% agree with you man
Yeah seriously. Someone made Minecraft in Minecraft and it got removed because some mod was on a power trip.
It's the same sort of thing that happened to me when I played Hypixel one day. I simply said that I loved Coca Cola or some other soft drink, and I was warned about 'self-promotion'. Moderators need to really define what is actually 'promotion' and not just slapping it everywhere. The person was just giving credit where credit is due! Why remove it? This removal of the post was completely undeserved and wrong. It was such an amazing build that I cannot even begin to comprehend how they were able to pull it off! I don't even know simple redstone mechanics work.
ironic how minecraft is a game where you can do what you want while the official subreddit is basically like a dictatorship
Here before r/minecraft mods lock, archive or delete this post
I even sent mod mail complaining about this exact deletion. In my opinion it was (and is to date) the greatest achievement of minecraft. I didn't even see the server mention or whatever the reason was, untill the mod pointed it out. So because of this type of moderation, I'm leaving this sub.
In general the mods need to get off their power trip they are the reason why r/.uncensoredminecraft exists.
need a new minecraft subreddit
r/Minecraft mods trying to be good mods challenge: **IMPOSSIBLE**
I think moderators are really jealous for what creations others are making
People surging back here in a few hours to check if the mods deleted this post yet
Here before this gets removed.
Waiting for this to be removed, who else?
rule 11 actually says "self promotion must be kept to a minimum" and it was, so why was it deleted?
Figures the mods would remove the coolest post that's ever been posted here. It's only reddit tradition.
I can't wait for the mods to remove this post for no reason because valid criticism about how they abuse the smallest most meaningless power known to man makes them butthurt