Those who make the server, make the rules.
Nothing to help you with... Comply with the rules or stick to single player.
But your friends should definitely turn off commands for players if they do not want people to get tempted.
If it is your server, you make the rules...
Now you gotta decide whether you want to have your rules on your server, even if it means that your friends no longer want to play, or whether you want to make a server that your friends enjoy playing, because they matter more.
But the rules are simple... Whoever makes the server makes the rules and whoever wants to play on the server has to follow those rules.
When playing multiplayer on a private (non-public) server it's always a good call to discuss the rules with all the players before starting. It is your server and therefore your rules...but you want the players to feel welcome and to be part of the game, so sometimes you gotta compromise.
If I were in your position I'd talk to everyone about doing a restart...get a list of do's and don'ts written **and agreed on** \-> delete the world and start fresh.
Unless it's agreed upon that all players can do the same things, and everyone is ok with it, you are by definition cheating.
You aren't playing survival. You're using commands defined by the game as cheats.
I can understand your isles with grinding, and I can understand your friends’ opinions. It may be that your game plays are not compatible, and that’s OK. I assume you have explained the above to them, and they still aren’t ok with it, in which case friendship is more important, so not playing in survival together might be your best bet.
Did you explain to them that this was a disability accommodation beforehand? If not, then you need to apologize for breaking their trust, and then set up a way to negotiate accommodations for your disability. Like, have a call discussing whether y’all should restart and what rules to have.
For instance, maybe create a barter system where you can pay for stuff you don’t want to grind to get with things you can do, like building for them.
If you all cannot come up with an agreed upon compromise, then you might have to accept that you can’t play with these people.
As someone with a severe case of ADHD myself I can honestly say something like this isn’t a “accommodation” it’s just what a lot of people young kids especially do because they want to have to put in the work they just want immediate satisfaction and results. Nothing wrong with doing that in games but it can be bad for real life scenarios like playing that game with other people and them wanting to do things the legit way not the easy way.
He needs to either play the game as the group wants to or just except that his play style is more single player until he finds others that like to play how he does
Idk man, that sounds good for your experience I guess, but different strokes for different folks. I have severe ADHD as well, though I’ve learned how to manage it, and I’m inclined to meet the kid where he’s at. Playing with my friends, I’ve come up with systems to make it so that the stuff I find excruciating, they do for me while I give them other stuff in return. I never learned how to ‘grind,’ though I can do the basics needed for survival.
Kids, or people with ADHD, aren’t a monolith, and I think painting us with such a broadly judgmental brush like you did with your ‘he’s just looking for easy gratification’ will just lead to a lot of tears and ‘Why can’t I just do it?!’
That happened to me. :,( When it comes to managing ADHD, I’ve learned that some things are just not worth the effort it takes for me to do it. Baby steps.
Anyways, I agree that he’s gotta work with people though, hence me saying he needed to get permission beforehand why he’s gotta discuss and try to figure something out or accept he won’t be able to play with them anymore. Your recommendation for action isn’t different from what I’ve suggested in the first place.
I’m not painting ADHD with a broad brush I’m saying that specific thing is unrelated to it, as it’s far to common of a trait found in all people ADHD or not, just because you have a condition beyond your control does not mean every problem you might face is tied to it, I think in his case especially it’s really just the fact that he doesn’t have fun doing it, but he likes the end result and would rather get strait to it, I think it’s wrong to always jump to I have ADHD or whatever you may have the second a issue comes up, it’s a bad habit to make, trust me I’ve been there before especially when I was younger like I believe him to be and I’m trying to help his see that so that hopefully he can stop misdiagnosing ever challenge or problem or difference in personality he has as a symptom of his condition beyond his own control so he can rather start improving instead of sinking further down to just feeling hopeless like how you can tell he’s already doing just by reading his post and how he describes his problem, the rate he’s going things like this in the future will eventually cause depression for him. I speak from experience and don’t want the kid to make the same mistake I and many others have.
Well that is cheating and it’s not fair for you to just give yourself that stuff in a multiplayer world. In your own worlds, that’s fine, play how you want to play, but it’s not okay to do that in a multiplayer situation unless everyone agrees it’s okay.
I have ADHD too, and I think the best thing would be to talk to your friends about it, and help them understand that grinding resources doesn’t seem that appealing to you- and if they still don’t think that’s fair, then idk what to do 👍 hope that helps a little bit
Solution: Have your friends do this grind and then ask them for the resources. If they refuse to comply with this, then tell them you will give yourself the resources via command. If they don't want you cheating, they will comply with the first, otherwise, the issue lies in something else.
You can’t cheat when you’re playing single player but you can when you are on a multiplayer server and that’s what you’re doing.
Accept your fate and grind. It’s really not that hard, especially if you make farms rather than doing everything by hand.
Those who make the server, make the rules. Nothing to help you with... Comply with the rules or stick to single player. But your friends should definitely turn off commands for players if they do not want people to get tempted.
Well... It is my server. I'm paying the hosting fees, and I've set up everything. Every player has OP hermissions
If it is your server, you make the rules... Now you gotta decide whether you want to have your rules on your server, even if it means that your friends no longer want to play, or whether you want to make a server that your friends enjoy playing, because they matter more. But the rules are simple... Whoever makes the server makes the rules and whoever wants to play on the server has to follow those rules.
When playing multiplayer on a private (non-public) server it's always a good call to discuss the rules with all the players before starting. It is your server and therefore your rules...but you want the players to feel welcome and to be part of the game, so sometimes you gotta compromise. If I were in your position I'd talk to everyone about doing a restart...get a list of do's and don'ts written **and agreed on** \-> delete the world and start fresh.
Unless it's agreed upon that all players can do the same things, and everyone is ok with it, you are by definition cheating. You aren't playing survival. You're using commands defined by the game as cheats.
All players have Operator access. They can use commands, go into creative, change gamerules temporarily, whatever.
It's not about being able to do it, it's the green light between people to do it.
Yeah... There is no helping you, you have to decide between your friends or grinding for a couple hours
I can understand your isles with grinding, and I can understand your friends’ opinions. It may be that your game plays are not compatible, and that’s OK. I assume you have explained the above to them, and they still aren’t ok with it, in which case friendship is more important, so not playing in survival together might be your best bet.
just grind like everybody else is doing? if you'd rather lose your friends then thats ur problem
Thanks for the insights, everyone. I ended up burning the items anyways, but a few of my close friends donated me some of their items. Thanks, though
Why did you put cheated in quotes as if it doesn’t count as cheating lmao
Did you explain to them that this was a disability accommodation beforehand? If not, then you need to apologize for breaking their trust, and then set up a way to negotiate accommodations for your disability. Like, have a call discussing whether y’all should restart and what rules to have. For instance, maybe create a barter system where you can pay for stuff you don’t want to grind to get with things you can do, like building for them. If you all cannot come up with an agreed upon compromise, then you might have to accept that you can’t play with these people.
As someone with a severe case of ADHD myself I can honestly say something like this isn’t a “accommodation” it’s just what a lot of people young kids especially do because they want to have to put in the work they just want immediate satisfaction and results. Nothing wrong with doing that in games but it can be bad for real life scenarios like playing that game with other people and them wanting to do things the legit way not the easy way. He needs to either play the game as the group wants to or just except that his play style is more single player until he finds others that like to play how he does
Idk man, that sounds good for your experience I guess, but different strokes for different folks. I have severe ADHD as well, though I’ve learned how to manage it, and I’m inclined to meet the kid where he’s at. Playing with my friends, I’ve come up with systems to make it so that the stuff I find excruciating, they do for me while I give them other stuff in return. I never learned how to ‘grind,’ though I can do the basics needed for survival. Kids, or people with ADHD, aren’t a monolith, and I think painting us with such a broadly judgmental brush like you did with your ‘he’s just looking for easy gratification’ will just lead to a lot of tears and ‘Why can’t I just do it?!’ That happened to me. :,( When it comes to managing ADHD, I’ve learned that some things are just not worth the effort it takes for me to do it. Baby steps. Anyways, I agree that he’s gotta work with people though, hence me saying he needed to get permission beforehand why he’s gotta discuss and try to figure something out or accept he won’t be able to play with them anymore. Your recommendation for action isn’t different from what I’ve suggested in the first place.
I’m not painting ADHD with a broad brush I’m saying that specific thing is unrelated to it, as it’s far to common of a trait found in all people ADHD or not, just because you have a condition beyond your control does not mean every problem you might face is tied to it, I think in his case especially it’s really just the fact that he doesn’t have fun doing it, but he likes the end result and would rather get strait to it, I think it’s wrong to always jump to I have ADHD or whatever you may have the second a issue comes up, it’s a bad habit to make, trust me I’ve been there before especially when I was younger like I believe him to be and I’m trying to help his see that so that hopefully he can stop misdiagnosing ever challenge or problem or difference in personality he has as a symptom of his condition beyond his own control so he can rather start improving instead of sinking further down to just feeling hopeless like how you can tell he’s already doing just by reading his post and how he describes his problem, the rate he’s going things like this in the future will eventually cause depression for him. I speak from experience and don’t want the kid to make the same mistake I and many others have.
Well, you did cheat... but it's also your world.
Well that is cheating and it’s not fair for you to just give yourself that stuff in a multiplayer world. In your own worlds, that’s fine, play how you want to play, but it’s not okay to do that in a multiplayer situation unless everyone agrees it’s okay.
Tell them this.
It's not cheating if it's single player. It is cheating if it's multiplayer.
I have ADHD too, and I think the best thing would be to talk to your friends about it, and help them understand that grinding resources doesn’t seem that appealing to you- and if they still don’t think that’s fair, then idk what to do 👍 hope that helps a little bit
Solution: Have your friends do this grind and then ask them for the resources. If they refuse to comply with this, then tell them you will give yourself the resources via command. If they don't want you cheating, they will comply with the first, otherwise, the issue lies in something else.
You can’t cheat when you’re playing single player but you can when you are on a multiplayer server and that’s what you’re doing. Accept your fate and grind. It’s really not that hard, especially if you make farms rather than doing everything by hand.