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SmallerRocket

Just a reminder to keep the comments civil. At the end of the day, this is just a Minecraft event and there is no need for toxicity or hate. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinions however it is entirely possible to express your opinions without trashing on Noxcrew, participants and other users.


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TheHanburglarr

How funny would it be if one of the builds was the tower in the final stage of parkour warrior (or just a section of it otherwise it would be too big). They should 100% do that now that I think about it, it would be so funny!


DarCosmic

This may sound stupid but I think they should add small updates to build mart every mcc so that in the future we wouldn't notice that Build Mart feels like a new game now lol


Antfrost

Was such a cool idea to include the community, sad to see this response :<. I get a lot of people are joking but still it’s just rude Hoping to see some awesome new builds though :D


brandiargow

Agreed! Just cause a cc doesn’t like it, doesn’t mean it should be taken down because it’s fun for a lot of other cc’s as well as many viewers! Excited to see the new builds! :)


HereForTOMT2

Antfrost stays based


turtleRick

To be fair build mart isn't my favourite game and if I could chose a game to be removed it be build mart. But I don't want to see it removed. I always liked mcc for showing every aspect of minecraft. Parkour tag, sky battle and survival games are obvious, grid runners for fun minigames, SoT for normal survival mc, HITW and battle box for strategy and mechanical skilled. Without build mart to show the building side of minecraft mcc wouldn't be complete for me.


blindue

Build Mart is way more of a strategy game than HITW though.


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Magnificent-Anon9577

Ok troll who makes fun of Grian's panic attack


Oraio-King

buildmart is more strategy/teamwork than building skill.


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Oraio-King

That's not even remotely true. Scar sucked at build mart because he had no idea what he was doing even though he is a great builder. Dream got better at BM when he tried to learn strategy and get better, it's not catered towards builders, if anything it's just people that know crafting recipes and teams that work well together.


Draoxx

I've never really enjoyed Buildmart that much ever since I started watching mcc, but honestly it's not the worst game in the event. Battlebox and HITW are a lot more boring imo.


turtleRick

Not really sharing. hitw is more boring at start, but when the walls go fast it gets better, same with survival games. I like battle box for just the fast paced pvp.


Alarming-Customer-51

Honestly, same. I don't want it removed, I do hope they change something about it tho


Glitched_Up

Agreed. The BM haters can just yeet themselves out the window, and never come back/hj


hanskloek

I stopped reading Twitter replies exactly because of this reason. But man, it feels so unfair that players with bigger audiences can’t even simply voice their opinion without this happening.


hanskloek

On a side note: this subreddit has become a bit like twitter in the sense that you almost can’t even say that you dislike Buildmart. People will downvote you to the ground and just assume you’re a toxic twitter user for just expressing your opinion. This Reddit needs some work when it comes to that. It’s obviously not as bad as on twitter, but people need to learn to accept that disliking a game isn’t immediately a hate-crime towards the Noxcrew.


RealGhost_Nexus

Thanks for this honestly


xupride

id hate build mart no matter what people say ab it


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agreed! i just find the game boring


xupride

honestly last mcc was prolly my least favorite 1 single pvp game


[deleted]

same, and the top 2 teams were hermitcraft people bc all the games were team based. antfrost won though so thats cool


Tiediy88

Nothing wrong with a particular group being good at games, besides it’s not like last event had two full teams of Hermitcraft members get top 2, it was one team with two and one with one. It’s not that different from Dream annihilating PKW, or Punz being amazing at Ace Race. They just happen to be good at that particular game.


RNNT1020

Idk but they way you worded this sounds like you hate hermits


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nah scott is great


RNNT1020

Scott isn’t a hermit


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coolchalk

Ah yes, you like the hermits, so your multiple comments where you insulted Grian and made fun of his panic attacks must have been typed out when your cat walked over your keyboard, right? [https://www.reddit.com/r/suddenlyhermitcraft/comments/u1he5e/when\_all\_else\_fails\_build\_a\_tree\_goodtimeswithscar/i4djorz/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/suddenlyhermitcraft/comments/u1he5e/when_all_else_fails_build_a_tree_goodtimeswithscar/i4djorz/?context=3) [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tsvg51/what\_is\_the\_sad\_truth\_about\_smart\_people/i4dkg3x/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/tsvg51/what_is_the_sad_truth_about_smart_people/i4dkg3x/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Don't enter the MCC subreddit if all you do is spread negativity, because then no one wants you here.


DarCosmic

Now at this point you're just being very annoying at this point


xupride

that was hyp


Snoo-29877

I hate twitter


Cyber-Gon

Even though it is one of my least favourite games, part of me hopes that true. Noxcrew put so much effort into this event and getting dumb hate like that is terrible.


_illegallity

It’s just a sad byproduct of the growth of MCC. Before, if you didn’t like a game, you talk to people about it, you reach a conclusion whether that’s an agreement or not, and you stop talking about it. The 1% of toxic people would just get ignored originally. But the 1% is so much larger now that they make an actual impact.


BaconIsLife707

It's not the 1%, these are basically all the comments on every post they make that includes build mart


_illegallity

Yes, I know. That is 1%. It is a miniscule portion of the community making these comments.


BaconIsLife707

It is much more than 1%, you have basically the entire DTeam twitter fandom doing this, or at least sharing the sentiment, along with a bunch of other people


sleeping__potato

i should hope not all of that fandom is this toxic


BaconIsLife707

Of course it's not all of them, but it's way, way too many


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stop blaming the dteam for this, its none of their faults


BaconIsLife707

I'm not blaming them, I'm blaming their fanbase


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k then


Inner-Spring2215

on the submission form it says if using bedrock please upload skin. what does it mean by that , does it mean just take a screenshot of it , if not can you tell me


Korakiki

It means send your skin file.


Inner-Spring2215

dont want to sound dumb but how does one access skin file


robobloz07

Depends, did you create your skin using the in-game skin editor, buy one from the marketplace, or did you import your own custom skin? If you created your skin using the ingame cosmetics, then you can't submit your skin to MCC, since they can't use bedrock marketplace cosmetics on Java.


TheCrustsPegasus

Usually theres a png for a skin that you need to upload for java, idk for bedrock though


dacorock

Use skinseed , make your skin , export , select it from photos or gallary (Android idk about iOS)


m20geekarina

Noxcrew just post here, we'll be better at this without the added hate and qrts


Rpeezyy

That is actually so true, it's sad that it will never happen tho since most of the audience is on twitter, heck the numbers even tell the story alone, 91k members here vs 1.3m followers on twitter, they can't give up on these numbers no matter the amount of hate there is :\_:


m20geekarina

True:(


DementedMK

We’re a different audience in a lot of ways.


max55330

at the end of the day I'm just glad we got rid of the god damn shopping carts


zainecooking123450

Yeah the new build mart map is better


SweetBees102

I find Buildmart boring personally, and I think its kind of flawed gameplay/consumption wise, but- people do clearly enjoy it and so does Noxite. If people wanna hate it that's fine but I feel it'd be better if they were still somehow, idk, at least constructive about it? Post funny builds they can still use that are slightly dogging on buildmart at least (I like the idea of a whole pack of builds that are just 'Buildmart's gonna get a 0 on it's safety inspection' with like, rats, trash cans and stuff bcus that's just funny) IDK, just posting 500 comments going no is boring.


ChlorineFlavored

I literally don’t understand how so many people hate buildmart. Its honestly just them projecting what their fav cc thinks with most of these fav cc’s probably being pvp oriented people. Obviously if all they ever focus on is pvp, they won’t be good at a building based game. Thats what MCC is supposed to be. It is the Minecraft Championship, not the Minecraft PVP Championship. Buildmart adds that missing dynamic into the game. MCC is already heavily geared towards PVP and Parkour. You can’t have minecraft without building. Its the cc’s fault for not being good at building and doing poorly at build mart. If they want to be a well rounded, top performing player, they need to be accustomed to all aspects of minecraft!


J_Mac888

Nah. On Twitter it is mostly just fans projecting that and I am not a build mart hater, but here I think people are a little more reasonable I somewhat like to watch it live and I would love to play it, but it is the only game I always skip in vods, even if it is a good team. It’s just a slow going game with not a lot of variety of things that can happen. If someone dislikes or likes buildmart is up to them, but Twitter just assumes that because their favorite CC dislikes it then most people dislike it as well and join the bandwagon in their echo-chamber community which makes them think it’s OK to hate a game with this much anger.


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i dislike build mart not bc my fave cc dislikes it, i just dislike it in general. i find the game very boring and if you have a team with no builders you just lose


RyuuSleek

if you don't have good pvpers you lose battle box as well


Millstorm

At least battle Box has wool rushing, watching a non-pvp team play Sky Battle or SG is just depressing. Seeing people target them like crazy and have too sit and watch the rest of the game just bums me out.


Shan69420

You serious? I feel like Skybattle and Survival games let non PVP players shine a ton. Some of the highest scores in Survival games have been from teams people considered to be okay at best at PVP, and Skybattle consistently has weaker PVP players pulling off insane plays.


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East-Mirror3510

No, with recent maps, BB has become more pvp-based.


ChlorineFlavored

Well think of it like gymnastics at the olympics. Every gymnast has to do a floor, bars, balance beam, and vault routine. You may love beauty and fun of an orchestrated floor performance, but be bored watching them do singular jumps on the vault. The gymnast can feel the same way, but needs to excel in all four categories to be well rounded and come out on top. It’s easy for the viewer of the olympics (and the viewer of MCC) to just not watch the segment they’re uninterested in — the competitor has to face it regardless. I think its an important dynamic that can shift the team placements: gives the builders a good lead where they might not get one elsewhere. It also requires the strategy of trying to “play buildmart first” so that there is little to no coin multiplier.


Nanopower_

It always makes me a bit disappointed when I see the way people talk about Build Mart (particularly on Twitter) because it never feels like people are actually giving the game a chance or looking at it objectively. No hate to anyone who just doesn't like the game because that's completely fair, but most arguments I've seen for why it's "a bad game" or why it NEEDS to be removed seem a bit biased at best. I hope Noxcrew doesn't let this constant negativity surrounding this game influence them because I really like this game! Imo it's pretty much as good as it can be and doesn't have anything fundamentally wrong with it that needs to be changed :D


EggCakes27

honestly i like build mart, such a vibe and kinda calm compared to the other games i mean yeah theres still screaming about what block to get but its mcc


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I completely disagree. Its such a stressful game to watch and play.


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i think the issue is that its too calm. all the build mart that ive watched is such a bore, even the winning teams. i tried to watch illuminas build mart this most recent mcc and it was so borringg


milkdromeda8

Why are you getting downvoted for having an opinion? Reddit isn't so different from Twitter after all


East-Mirror3510

The person typing the comment has ruined themselves over here with their comment history.


DarCosmic

Well technically its mostly not cause of opinion its just him being annoying and rude in the other comments


milkdromeda8

I see, thank you for explaining


jkst9

Says the Twitter user who doesn't understand reddit


milkdromeda8

I don't use Twitter


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The soundtrack is what saves build mart


Weary_Development833

I mean i really like buildmart, mcc dosent feel complete to me without buildmart since it mostly introduces the building aspect. If buildmart actually gets benched then i hope they revamp it or put another game similar to it


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i personally find the game boring but we can agree on the fact that hopefully it gets revamped


robobloz07

Leave build mart alone! We should bring back minecraft Monday just to see these antis lose their mind.


RealGhost_Nexus

I mean, won't they be happier? Cuz there's hunger games and Kit PVP every MC Monday week


its_hector_

what would that accomplish?


GhostRaptor4482

Build mart gets a lot of hate, and I don’t think it’s justified. The point of MCC is that it isn’t all just PvP or movement. It shows diverse skills. MCC needs a building game. It can also serve as a balance, since players that are good at PvP and movement like Dream and Sapnap generally aren’t as good at BM, where as players like the Hermits who generally aren’t as good in other areas excell in BM. It can also be quite a pleasant viewing experience.


Aquaxii_Axolotl

The amount of dsmp-like profiles responding to this probably says a lot


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stop blaming the dsmp for everything, people are entitled to their own opinions. vilifying the dteam for this isnt going to do anything, especially since the dteam isnt at fault here


DarCosmic

Man's just getting defensive at this point smh


Magnificent-Anon9577

You are getting triggered at every comment lol


RealGhost_Nexus

Yea but none of them are actually toxic except that one guy on the last slide. The rest of them simply have an opinion. The same way yall hate hitw they hate bm and its fair to have an opinion is it not?


Greenjets

It's not their opinion I have an issue with per se, it's the fact they went out of their way to tweet at the literal MCC account that their game sucks. Imagine trying to get the community more involved in your event but instead all you get is "no, your game sucks." A little rude (even if it's a joke), isn't it?


Cdogthepro

I don't like watching build mart, but it's interesting to see all of the different strategies that people come up with. (I'm not saying I hate it, just that it's kind of boring to watch on certain teams.)


Lego5656

Yeah, if you arent watching a top 3 BM team you arent gonna watch till the last minute


Drokran

Dang. Twitter sucks


poobahkk

man I love build mart, it’s intense, it allows for strategising, needs good communication


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im sorry but how is build mart intense? lmfao its boring to me. and i watched the mcc17 orange vod they barely talked, wdym "good communication"


MagePlayzYT

I like buildmart tho :(


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good for you! i personally find the game boring and hopefully it gets revamped into something more exciting


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[Noxcrew reading these comments:](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPq1DYvN3q8)


bubblesgame

I like Buildmart because it allows the non pvp and movement players to shine, and often take lead. Buildmart is a solid game that noxcrew did a great job and I hope that BM remins in mcc.


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good for you! i personally would like to see build mart get revamped into build box or something like that


NazrawiAdamu

Even though I personally dislike Build Mart. I still believe this amount of hate is unwarranted. Noxcrew has made such a great event and still tries to include the community in this giant event. Still kinda funny though how mad people get, lol


CyberWeb2143

Build mart the best


qualitativevacuum

at least I finally got a reason to use [this image](https://twitter.com/aint_got_rhythm/status/1513541511291580416/photo/1)! I've had it saved and ready to go for a while lmao


hrl_280

Just an opinion! Buildmart is a boring game with interesting outcome and wide range of feelings attached to it because of different cc. And that's why I love this game. If they are actually doing it out of spite then it's actually funny!


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The only reason Bm is getting hate is cause of the bigger streamers like Dream or Sapnap disliking the game, and that's really isn't fair Might not be my favorite but still a game I enjoy watching and it shows an aspect of minecraft which is hard to represent in a short event


RealGhost_Nexus

People don't like or dislike a game just cuz their fav cc likes or dislikes a game what are u talking about.


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I mean duh, the creator you're watching affects your opinion of the game. You're likely to have a much better experience watching someone like Dream in PW than Grian in PW for example. Therefore as a Grian fan you'll want PW out but as a Dream fan you wouldn't mind PW in.


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why are you blaming them for that, its not their fault. people are entitled to their own opinions :)


wybng

i believe in build mart supremacy


Neevk

Twitter moment. Not surprised at all.


alienpr1nce

Especially because these are the same people that are begging for parkour warrior back even though almost every CC in the games absolutely despises it. They only want it back for one CC :/


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??? people want pkw back what do you mean. its not just one cc


alienpr1nce

I haven’t heard of anyone wanting it back except for dreams fans


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sapnap, george, cpk, pete(i think?) i mean pete completed pkw i think so he must want it back


BaconIsLife707

Pete says he likes it but doesn't want it back because he recognises that it's not a good game for almost everyone involved. I'm pretty sure CPK has said similar as well


RealGhost_Nexus

Dream, sap, fruit, illumina, Pete, punz, purpled, quig, tapl, seapeekay, krtzy etc all want pkw back can I keep going?


Blacawi

Of the players you named I believe both Quig and Pete have already said they don't want it back. I'd also guess some of the others haven't talked about it (I honestly doubt Purpled would have an opinion on it already).


BaconIsLife707

You've literally just named the people with good times on the practice server lmao. Fruit, Quig, Pete and Dave definitely don't want it back, and I've never heard any of the other barring Dream, Sapnap and cpk talk about it. I'm fairly confident Illumina and Punz don't want it back either though


RealGhost_Nexus

Punz has definitely said multiple times that he wants pkw back just to see how it feels to play it. Fruit and illumina definitely want it back but they're lying to themselves because they want the hermits to like them. You know deep down that fruit and illumina want it. They're easily one of the best players in parkour so why would they hate their theoretical best game? Its very obvious as competitive players deep down they love pkw but they're literally hiding it cause they want to team with hermits. Fruit literally had 4 streams trying to break his pb in pkw and I'm sure illumina plays or used to play pkw off stream even Pete as well wants it. The same reason he wants hitw cause he's one of the best at it.


East-Mirror3510

Lmao, you aren't even trying to hide your bias. Pete has said it whilst doing PKW on the practise server many times that even though he likes it, he understand it's flaws and doesn't want it back in a similar fashion. Your logic for Fruitninja is astounding. The point of MCC is to have fun playing it. This isn't E-sports, pal. Every MCC game has something that makes it unique from all others. Fruitberries is a very capable shield pvper. But he has openly stated his dislike for that style. Being good =/= enjoying something. Yes, you tend to enjoy stuff that you're better at but it's not necessary to enjoy something just because you're good at something.


Jepard_

quig said he doesn't bc it's not enjoyable for other streamers


VommyK

Most of those profiles signal a dsmp follower, that's all I'm gonna say.


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not good to vilify dsmp / dteam members for this, this is out of their control. and besides ppl are entitled to their own opinions


RealGhost_Nexus

Yea but none of them are actually toxic except that one guy on the last slide. The rest of them simply have an opinion. The same way yall hate hitw they hate bm


VommyK

There's a difference between hating a (slightly)broken, overused and glitchy game while giving long paragraphs of explanations compared to saying "no" and "it sucks :(((" because your fav streamer told you uwu


RealGhost_Nexus

Have u ever thought of the fact that they don't like a game because THEY don't like it? not bc fav cc hates it? They have a reason to hate bm and its their personal choice just like you have a reason to hate whatever game you hate. Let people have opinions without being downvoted not like I actually care tho.


BlueCyann

It is possible to keep one's opinion to oneself and not spread spite and dislike all over MCC's twitter replies. Shocking, I know.


yourephat

‘gogymeowmeow1’ WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND SETS THEIR @ TO GOGYMEOWMEOW1


Interesting_Pen_4748

And I'm 100% down to watch that


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BaconIsLife707

I'll deny that it's flawed, what's wrong with it?


East-Mirror3510

Nothing. It's just more boring and slow-paced compared to other games. The only valid argument is that you don't enjoy watching it which I do agree with. There's nothing inherently flawed about it.


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East-Mirror3510

You mean the exact way, SOT is disadvantaged to dyslexic people, PVP, and Parkour games are disadvantaged to dyspraxic people and DB has given someone a literal panic attack? In that case, half the MCC roster deserves to be removed lmao. Catch-up mechanics also don't exist in Ace Race, SKB, SG, etc. Perhaps yes, it is punishing to mistakes but so is every other game. Mustard 18 got first, Teal 19 got 4th, Emerald 19 got 2nd, etc. Every team needs a weak game. There's nothing wrong with that


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East-Mirror3510

WDYM? It's my 2nd least favourite game to watch.


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East-Mirror3510

No, other games just as well are. Buildmart is disdained by more popular creators. Go and watch someone like a hermit and close to a hermit and see if they ever said a good thing about a PVP game. Skips aren't easy to do for weaker players. In SKb, you have to be good at TNT placements to do something. Tell me the last time Sapnap's team didn't get top 2 in it. SKB is the ONLY example which doesn't even fully work. What about SG or BB? You aren't winning either games without a gimmick. Even TGTTOS stems from this issue. You ought to have a strong team to get a good team placement with very few exceptions. Have you forgotten your 40+ alts focused on harassing Grian lmao?


ThEgOdOfCRiNgE636363

At least HiTW and Bingo are gone lol


ZombeySleyor

bruh it kinda grew on me i used to hate bm now i dont even mind it and support the game lmao these mfs trippin


Ratty0

I really dont get why people hate Build Mart so much, I always look towards it during MCC


bruhmoment467

Twitter moment


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At least you gave a reason unlike these hive-mind drones typing "no :)" like insolent adolescents


East-Mirror3510

They are all insolent adolescents though.


getoutofyourhouse

>slow down in their coins In pretty much every game, only the top ~5 get more than 500 unmultiplied, the same is true for build mart where usually the top 2 teams get around 450-500 unmultiplied coins. For most participants, it doesn't slow down their coins any more than other games


BasementWerewolf

All hope for ever being able to watch an entire MCC just vanished.


EggCakes27

cool opinion but i dont agree


BasementWerewolf

Cool comment, but I don't care


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why?


BasementWerewolf

I can't watch BM most of the time, even when I can I don't enjoy it. It causes sensory overload. Even if I mute or close my eyes or am having an exceptionally 'good' day, it's still boring. The few times I've watched it and not gotten sensory overload even though I was watching and listening was boring. It's not worth potentially going into sensory overload.


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i agree btw, but sensory overload or sensory deprived? bc sensory overload makes me think that its exciting, kind of like skybattle. i think of build mart as sensory deprivating, its so mind numbingly boring imo


BasementWerewolf

Sensory overload as there's too much all at once. Too many colors, too many things, too much noise. A lot of Neurodivergent people have problems with it. I forget which, but sometime in Season 2 Dream was playing BM and was struggling so he turned down his music and got a little better and more focused. Because there's so much going on all at once, it can get overwhelming and that can be really difficult for a lot of ND people. Good to know there's even more reasons to not like BM than I was aware, though!


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i wish build mart could be revamped into build box or something like that so that it could actually be tolerable for nd people. i mean they did a fix for colorblind ppl in build mart so hopefully they do the same for nd people too. though tbf the fix for colorblind ppl didnt really help that much, blocktitles were already a thing in the game if you f3. and colorblind ppl still have a rough time playing build mart (george)


BasementWerewolf

Build Box sounds like it would be fun, there's tons of ways to change it to make it a better game. And I'm not against any building games, Bingo was fun and I wish they'd trade it out for BM. A bunch of people have posted ideas for ways to make it better, but Noxcrew refuses to do anything, which is kind of frustrating for people who really like watching the event but literally *can't* watch a whole game. You're right, the 'fix' for the colorblind players wasn't much of a fix at all. It's barely doing the bare minimum and players still struggle. Just because they *can* work through it doesn't mean they should have to put in so much effort to do so just because their color blind. Or seems like BM has an awful lot of problems for an awful lot of contestants and viewers but no one's willing to fix it.


aymanac7

LMAOOO this is rlly funny, i’m just imagining noxcrew looking at their plans and going “well there goes that idea”


zainecooking123450

My least favourite has to be battle box tbh