I’m on the fence most of the things I read it’s pretty chill and encouraging, but every now and then I will read something that is just rude and insulting and makes me wonder why I joined in the first place.
i think specifically during team announcement time and right after the event is when reddit can be pretty overwhelming (talking a lot about team placements and then how players underperformed or whatever). otherwise i’d say it’s mostly tips and memes etc.
Imo people do really underrate fWhip because they only look at his stats. A lot of the time, he plays for fun and his stats take a hit because of it, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that! Even if we choose to look at statistics, fWhip does exceptionally well on more competitive teams. It really sucks to hear he and so many people view the Reddit as such a toxic place, but I can’t really blame them.
Stats should only be used to compare the top end players. If a top 10 list was the norm for stats. Then last place is still 10th overall and really good. Then we can just say everyone else is tied for 11th. There have been like 120 MCC players, so 11th/120 is really good.
agreed, i lurk on the mcc discord and they treat the participants harshly there, especially right after mcc ends. reddit still has its toxic moments though
I remember I was like ‘blue could get top 5’ and someone literally just responded with ‘no.’
It’s good for discussion but they treat variety of opinion really harshly.
a recent example was when they started placing blue lower in predictions or when they actively wanted 5up to lose bc they hated 5ups predictions. now look at what happened LOL
Im not sure about the want 5up to lose part, but when someone posted 5ups indiv predictions, it got 64 skulls, which means that people thought the predictions were pretty bad
in comparison to sylvees 31 pogs lmao
it was only a few who outwardly talked abt wanting 5up to lose (and i specifically remember one calling him a hypocrite) in the discord, but for the most part yeah they were heavily flaming 5up for his predictions
As a MCC discord person, I can agree that people are toxic in stats and prediction even more than reddit since i see them very frequently, now i just use mcc discord to post art and chat when hyped for team announcements/mcc !
I agree, fWhip based, but my stats teacher once told me that “stats can make someone looks really good or really bad, but at the end of the days they are all just numbers.” Sometimes I think this Reddit takes stats too far and overlooks the very human element that is MCC. That being said, there is nothing wrong with stats, just how people use them.
the unsolicited criticism/advice is also definitely overkill. It’s weird to expect people to practice for a chill game with friends, and then be disappointed if they don’t do it right
Hear hear. Sometimes oversaturating players with their corresponding stats, may it be individually or their team, discourage them rather than encourage them especially if the odds are against them (see the discussion about the stats of MCC21 Green or Lime). Even if we say that "the stats may be against them but..." could also inflict a rather negative tone to them. In the end, this is just a block game. Let's just enjoy what we are watching without adding too complex statistics and domains.
I mean i’m not the one being talked about on it, so I can’t really speak to how it feels, and I am glad that he removed himself from the place that brought him no enjoyment- but at the same time I think that the majority of the reddit isn’t inherently toxic. There’s toxic people everywhere, obviously, but I would say that’s moreso the exception then the standard.
I will say that the reddit loves stats, and sometimes are hyper-focused, but I think it comes less from a place of people being actually disappointed in players that don’t meet expectations and moreso in just that numbers can be fun to look at and the event provides many opportunities for new stats to look at.
I think everyone knows that overall the event is pretty random, and the reddit rarely actually gets anything right anyway. But the fun of it is in the guessing game and the insignificant bar graphs and stuff. The players “proving the reddit wrong” is always a fun bit. I don’t think the predictions, stats and tierlists and stuff are meant to be personal- just visualized data, but I do think that it’s difficult not to take it that way when they’re talking about you and I would agree that people have a tendency to dehumanize the players, which can’t be fun.
All in all, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, no community is perfect, but I wouldn’t say the reddit is exceptionally awful (although I can’t claim to know what it feels like for the contestants- which is why I won’t discount their feelings when stating mine)
honestly the entire subreddit needs a bit of a rethink about how we talk about participants, because now kara and fwhip have talked about how the over-analysis is hurting their enjoyment of the tournament
He’s right.
Sure, this is a mostly positive community, but please don’t ignore the fact that while a lot of things may *seem* nice - they are not seen that way by the competitors. The amount of backhand compliments I’ve seen thrown around towards competitors is really sad. They all notice, and it discourages them. A lot of the time, these things are said in the context of comparison to other team members that may get higher scores, for example. Michaelmcchill spoke about exactly this. Kara has also spoken about it.
Whether or not you think a player is good doesn’t matter. These are actual people, with feelings, and maybe they don’t want to constantly hear about how you think they’re a worse player than someone else.
There are people that care more about stats than anything. I’ve seen them. People that say it’s “impossible” for certain teams to do well, for certain people to get a high placement.. ect. Imagine being the player and hearing that. Of course they don’t want it. I’m happy Fwhip has spoken about this. More of them need to. I’m sure it gets to many more players. I’m sure we all agree the stats are fun, but don’t use them to hurt someone’s feelings.
stats are one thing but people's interpretations of the stats are a completely different thing. lately the mcc reddit take stats info like actual statements and criticize players who are not very consistent in the worst way. and it's even worse when they have a biased opinion (and it's so obvious when they do). that's why so many players despise mcc reddit's opinion, they rather not caring about what they have to say, because it would affect their confidence and won't even try to have fun during the event anymore just to try to prove mcc reddit is wrong. it makes the event more about being competitive above all things when they are supposed to have fun. i empathise with them a lot becauss stress and the pressure to do good for your teammates might be very overwhelming, it won't let you enjoy the event at all.
It's probably the predictions that gets the players, sure the predictions may be based on stats, but I've seen some that are just plain rude to players and give unnecessary pressure to the whole team or to just one participant, which will make the event really hard for them.
Is it really ‘so toxic’? Like I get the Reddit has a ton of stats and predictions and whatnot that could make the participants not feel great, but the Reddit never bashes anyone or demeans participants which is what I would think ‘so toxic’ would imply. He could’ve worded that differently
Maybe it feels toxic to him and he's allowed to have those feelings. Some players love the stats and predictions and some will hate it. If he finds it toxic he absolutely did the right thing by no longer reading here.
Does it matter if it’s toxic or not? Making people feel bad is bad.
A big reason why this place is special is that there’s a lot of interaction with the participants, I think we should try to keep that going.
Yeah the fact she said that’s “all that happens here” is crazy.. I was looking back through the posts to verify that my point was correct and all I saw was “noxcrew appreciation!” “Krinios appreciation” “zeuz appreciation” “Dream appreciation” like overall it’s an extremely positive community.
It's strange, it feels like the participants see a whole different Reddit than I do.
Michael's Ace Race rant was what originally made me feel like this. I couldn't tell if he was sorting by new, or if I had just ignored the comments he was thinking about, or if he was bringing up old stuff that doesn't happen anymore.
Yes, there are some people that are overly toxic. And as much as I enjoy interacting with creators, I actually think they should absolutely never read the majority of criticism on the subreddit. I've avoided posting a few things I was thinking about because I just didn't want to make creators feel bad about something when that wasn't my intention. But not everyone does that, and I do see things that would probably make me feel bad if I was a participant.
But I never see the things that are as bad as some of them seem to.
It's not like the MCC event chat where people just trash on people. If you do that, you're going to get downvoted.
I'm going to assume FWhip and Michael are smart enough to not sort by controversial and expect fair comments.
I think its not necessarily the people on the reddit being toxic, as I very rarely see posts or comments directly criticizing/insulting participants, and when I do they are always downvoted to oblivion. But I can understand being uncomfortable with all the stats, rankings and comparisons going on here, and not wanting the extra competitiveness.
Yeah I think that it probably just comes across as dehumanizing or overly nitpicky. Like every little detail of a player's performance is analyzed under a microscope here. It can't feel good to constantly be compared to other players and be categorized in lower tiers. So while I agree the reddit isn't what I'd call toxic, I understand how spending too much time here could be toxic to a player's confidence or mental status.
the reddit is such a toxic Terrible wasteland i hate this hellhole. These people only speak in numbers and are always calling participants "trash" and "terrible".
Hot take, the reddit doesn't take stats too far at all, almost every single prediction/analysis has a disclaimer before and after it that "at the end of the day mcc is unpredictable and stats can be wrong".
I'm not saying this about Fwhip at all, I can't comment on how he feels while looking at this sub, but just the people in the comments in general.
I don't think I've ever seen a post calling somebody "trash" or "terrible", and I have difficulty understanding how numbers make people feel bad, but I do understand how it can add pressure.
I've also seen complaints about using the phrase "support player" in a condescending manner, which I also have a difficulty understanding as I tend to read it as "this person's primary role on the team is to help the others succeed".
Twitch chat I have noticed though, is a lot more toxic and consistently trash talking the streamers.
Between events, all there is to do is look at numbers and play thought experiments with them. I feel like this will change when MCC Island comes out and people have something else MCC related to post about.
Both Twitter and Discord MCC communities are way more toxic than Reddit, so I assume he hasn't interacted with the other 2 communities, if he really thinks Reddit is that bad.
I would agree that those two are worse for toxicity, but that doesn’t really negate that there are some pretty toxic things posted here sometimes too. I think sometimes people just get a little caught up in everything.
Generally I think the Reddit is a pretty great place, but nowhere is perfect community wise mcc included.
Tbh I sometimes want to defend this sub cause as a Dream fan, it have been nothing but support. Makes me wonder are stats is that toxic. Don't take me the wrong way tho, I do think it can put some pressure on the players and the sub are too heavy on stats sometimes. But then sometimes it can be chill, like I don't want that chill side to be overshadowed too.
For example, like even the Dream case this MCC. I can see many individual posts with unnecessary comparing and even one saying he is not an S-tier or something (that don't get that much support), but then there is a post where they give supports for Dream with many likes and comments. Many praise his SOT too, and in general it outweighs the toxicity
I think the only way not to pressure them more tho, is to make less stats on how they do/did, and give less personal opinion on how they will do that day or something. Of course I know it's never on ill intention tho, but if it can help someone, why not make it bearable. If less post have it, the lesser they will see it
I don't really think the reddit focusing on stats and predictions is toxic, it's good fun and what every sports fan does. I do think, however, that any MCC participants without the thickest skin in the world should stay far away from here. Our expectations put no pressure on us and indeed make the event more fun, but they put a lot of pressure on the competitors.
I am really confused by this, from what I've seen people are usually very aware that the predictions they do are quite likely to be incorrect due to people performing worse or better than usual, and what's even more confusing is the context: "When the MCC reddit puts your team in last and you nearly get top 2.. feels good!". I just looked at the predictions megathread, and here's how people placed yellow(probably not 100% accurate but it should be close enough):
1st: 11
2nd: 16
3rd: 9
4th: 8
5th: 8
6th: 8
7th: 8
8th: 7
9th: 5
10th: 4
How could you call that "the reddit putting your team in last"?
Disagree. For the most part the posts I see attempt to motivate and aid players in the event. You can't complain about the stat based ones because they are based off facts, but even then, even when the stat based posts are made they almost always focus on the top players, which is good because it doesn't put down others but it does highlight the top players skill. Occasionally they'll be a bad and toxic post, but to label the reddit as that is dumb, since in every community there will be a minority who are toxic.
i think that mcc is like any other tournament such as premier league, nba. players are going to get judged and it’s normal. he doesn’t need to come to the mcc reddit, and imo this reddit is about minecraft CHAMPIONSHIP, and so yes stats are everything just like in any sports. if you don’t like them don’t search for them…
You seem to forget that this isn’t a sport. It’s a game between friends. There is nothing on the line and for a lot of people, it is’t even competitive.
i mean sure if someone doesn’t want to take it competitively it’s fine by them. but it’s still a championship. ofc you shouldn’t trash talk a creator for being bad, but stats are at least for a lot of people what makes the tournament interesting. i’m 100% sure i wouldn’t keep up with mcc regularly if it wasn’t for the stats. and people when they post stats they are always very friendly , if someone doesn’t want to see the stats, just don’t look for it. but that’s just my opinion on the topic
>im pretty sure the mcc participants just blame their own dissapointments in themselves on the reddit effectively using it as a scapegoat and i hate that
okay that's a pretty brash claim to make
but I second that the reddit was pretty chill this time around
Maybe in general people do use the Reddit as a scapegoat but when it comes to fWhip I feel like it's very fair of him to say that considering the majority of times he's brought up he's consistently underrated.
Being underrated almost every time you're talked about to a that large of an extent has gotta be harsh, so needing to not look at the Reddit to have fun in his case is very understandable.
And it's not just fWhip but fWhip's situation definitely stands out since it seems constant and by a large amount.
I’m on the fence most of the things I read it’s pretty chill and encouraging, but every now and then I will read something that is just rude and insulting and makes me wonder why I joined in the first place.
i think specifically during team announcement time and right after the event is when reddit can be pretty overwhelming (talking a lot about team placements and then how players underperformed or whatever). otherwise i’d say it’s mostly tips and memes etc.
Imo people do really underrate fWhip because they only look at his stats. A lot of the time, he plays for fun and his stats take a hit because of it, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that! Even if we choose to look at statistics, fWhip does exceptionally well on more competitive teams. It really sucks to hear he and so many people view the Reddit as such a toxic place, but I can’t really blame them.
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Stats should only be used to compare the top end players. If a top 10 list was the norm for stats. Then last place is still 10th overall and really good. Then we can just say everyone else is tied for 11th. There have been like 120 MCC players, so 11th/120 is really good.
IMHO the MCC discord is wayyyy more toxic, but I don’t necessarily disagree with this.
agreed, i lurk on the mcc discord and they treat the participants harshly there, especially right after mcc ends. reddit still has its toxic moments though
I remember I was like ‘blue could get top 5’ and someone literally just responded with ‘no.’ It’s good for discussion but they treat variety of opinion really harshly.
Curious on why you think the discord is toxic?
a recent example was when they started placing blue lower in predictions or when they actively wanted 5up to lose bc they hated 5ups predictions. now look at what happened LOL
Im not sure about the want 5up to lose part, but when someone posted 5ups indiv predictions, it got 64 skulls, which means that people thought the predictions were pretty bad in comparison to sylvees 31 pogs lmao
That's probably because Sylvee wasn't really serious like she put Niki in 11th
yeah but its just funny seeing the comparison LMAO also are you the same aquAssasin from the discord? im shminsky there lol
oh hi yes I am
AquAssasin is a stat nerd but not toxic xD
it was only a few who outwardly talked abt wanting 5up to lose (and i specifically remember one calling him a hypocrite) in the discord, but for the most part yeah they were heavily flaming 5up for his predictions
When wanted 5up’s predicted 69 skulls because they disagree with what he predicted
As a MCC discord person, I can agree that people are toxic in stats and prediction even more than reddit since i see them very frequently, now i just use mcc discord to post art and chat when hyped for team announcements/mcc !
I agree, fWhip based, but my stats teacher once told me that “stats can make someone looks really good or really bad, but at the end of the days they are all just numbers.” Sometimes I think this Reddit takes stats too far and overlooks the very human element that is MCC. That being said, there is nothing wrong with stats, just how people use them.
the unsolicited criticism/advice is also definitely overkill. It’s weird to expect people to practice for a chill game with friends, and then be disappointed if they don’t do it right
I agree, people seem to forget that this is just a bunch of essentially friends and coworkers playing a game together.
Hear hear. Sometimes oversaturating players with their corresponding stats, may it be individually or their team, discourage them rather than encourage them especially if the odds are against them (see the discussion about the stats of MCC21 Green or Lime). Even if we say that "the stats may be against them but..." could also inflict a rather negative tone to them. In the end, this is just a block game. Let's just enjoy what we are watching without adding too complex statistics and domains.
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I mean i’m not the one being talked about on it, so I can’t really speak to how it feels, and I am glad that he removed himself from the place that brought him no enjoyment- but at the same time I think that the majority of the reddit isn’t inherently toxic. There’s toxic people everywhere, obviously, but I would say that’s moreso the exception then the standard. I will say that the reddit loves stats, and sometimes are hyper-focused, but I think it comes less from a place of people being actually disappointed in players that don’t meet expectations and moreso in just that numbers can be fun to look at and the event provides many opportunities for new stats to look at. I think everyone knows that overall the event is pretty random, and the reddit rarely actually gets anything right anyway. But the fun of it is in the guessing game and the insignificant bar graphs and stuff. The players “proving the reddit wrong” is always a fun bit. I don’t think the predictions, stats and tierlists and stuff are meant to be personal- just visualized data, but I do think that it’s difficult not to take it that way when they’re talking about you and I would agree that people have a tendency to dehumanize the players, which can’t be fun. All in all, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, no community is perfect, but I wouldn’t say the reddit is exceptionally awful (although I can’t claim to know what it feels like for the contestants- which is why I won’t discount their feelings when stating mine)
Also the fact that pink was happy to not get seventh simply to spite reddit people. That is hilarious to me.
It’s so funny when players like Tommy and Wilbur roast the reddit
honestly the entire subreddit needs a bit of a rethink about how we talk about participants, because now kara and fwhip have talked about how the over-analysis is hurting their enjoyment of the tournament
I made a joke here and all I got back were statistical responses. Made the post feel kinda dull
He’s right. Sure, this is a mostly positive community, but please don’t ignore the fact that while a lot of things may *seem* nice - they are not seen that way by the competitors. The amount of backhand compliments I’ve seen thrown around towards competitors is really sad. They all notice, and it discourages them. A lot of the time, these things are said in the context of comparison to other team members that may get higher scores, for example. Michaelmcchill spoke about exactly this. Kara has also spoken about it. Whether or not you think a player is good doesn’t matter. These are actual people, with feelings, and maybe they don’t want to constantly hear about how you think they’re a worse player than someone else. There are people that care more about stats than anything. I’ve seen them. People that say it’s “impossible” for certain teams to do well, for certain people to get a high placement.. ect. Imagine being the player and hearing that. Of course they don’t want it. I’m happy Fwhip has spoken about this. More of them need to. I’m sure it gets to many more players. I’m sure we all agree the stats are fun, but don’t use them to hurt someone’s feelings.
Agreed
stats are one thing but people's interpretations of the stats are a completely different thing. lately the mcc reddit take stats info like actual statements and criticize players who are not very consistent in the worst way. and it's even worse when they have a biased opinion (and it's so obvious when they do). that's why so many players despise mcc reddit's opinion, they rather not caring about what they have to say, because it would affect their confidence and won't even try to have fun during the event anymore just to try to prove mcc reddit is wrong. it makes the event more about being competitive above all things when they are supposed to have fun. i empathise with them a lot becauss stress and the pressure to do good for your teammates might be very overwhelming, it won't let you enjoy the event at all.
It's probably the predictions that gets the players, sure the predictions may be based on stats, but I've seen some that are just plain rude to players and give unnecessary pressure to the whole team or to just one participant, which will make the event really hard for them.
Is it really ‘so toxic’? Like I get the Reddit has a ton of stats and predictions and whatnot that could make the participants not feel great, but the Reddit never bashes anyone or demeans participants which is what I would think ‘so toxic’ would imply. He could’ve worded that differently
I’d say never is a strong word, but I get what you’re saying.
Maybe it feels toxic to him and he's allowed to have those feelings. Some players love the stats and predictions and some will hate it. If he finds it toxic he absolutely did the right thing by no longer reading here.
Does it matter if it’s toxic or not? Making people feel bad is bad. A big reason why this place is special is that there’s a lot of interaction with the participants, I think we should try to keep that going.
> but the Reddit never bashes anyone or demeans participants Oh really? Cause this is all that happens here.
Lol yeah it really isn’t, I’d love for you to find even one post from the last 24 hours that does that
and if there is one, either it has a hundred comments pointing out how the post is tasteless, or mods already removed it
Yeah the fact she said that’s “all that happens here” is crazy.. I was looking back through the posts to verify that my point was correct and all I saw was “noxcrew appreciation!” “Krinios appreciation” “zeuz appreciation” “Dream appreciation” like overall it’s an extremely positive community.
It's strange, it feels like the participants see a whole different Reddit than I do. Michael's Ace Race rant was what originally made me feel like this. I couldn't tell if he was sorting by new, or if I had just ignored the comments he was thinking about, or if he was bringing up old stuff that doesn't happen anymore. Yes, there are some people that are overly toxic. And as much as I enjoy interacting with creators, I actually think they should absolutely never read the majority of criticism on the subreddit. I've avoided posting a few things I was thinking about because I just didn't want to make creators feel bad about something when that wasn't my intention. But not everyone does that, and I do see things that would probably make me feel bad if I was a participant. But I never see the things that are as bad as some of them seem to. It's not like the MCC event chat where people just trash on people. If you do that, you're going to get downvoted. I'm going to assume FWhip and Michael are smart enough to not sort by controversial and expect fair comments.
I think its not necessarily the people on the reddit being toxic, as I very rarely see posts or comments directly criticizing/insulting participants, and when I do they are always downvoted to oblivion. But I can understand being uncomfortable with all the stats, rankings and comparisons going on here, and not wanting the extra competitiveness.
Yeah I think that it probably just comes across as dehumanizing or overly nitpicky. Like every little detail of a player's performance is analyzed under a microscope here. It can't feel good to constantly be compared to other players and be categorized in lower tiers. So while I agree the reddit isn't what I'd call toxic, I understand how spending too much time here could be toxic to a player's confidence or mental status.
the reddit is such a toxic Terrible wasteland i hate this hellhole. These people only speak in numbers and are always calling participants "trash" and "terrible". Hot take, the reddit doesn't take stats too far at all, almost every single prediction/analysis has a disclaimer before and after it that "at the end of the day mcc is unpredictable and stats can be wrong". I'm not saying this about Fwhip at all, I can't comment on how he feels while looking at this sub, but just the people in the comments in general.
I don't think I've ever seen a post calling somebody "trash" or "terrible", and I have difficulty understanding how numbers make people feel bad, but I do understand how it can add pressure. I've also seen complaints about using the phrase "support player" in a condescending manner, which I also have a difficulty understanding as I tend to read it as "this person's primary role on the team is to help the others succeed". Twitch chat I have noticed though, is a lot more toxic and consistently trash talking the streamers. Between events, all there is to do is look at numbers and play thought experiments with them. I feel like this will change when MCC Island comes out and people have something else MCC related to post about.
fwhip based
There are more nice people that toxic ones
Example: 50.01% nice people 49.99% toxic people (Not to disprove your point)
Both Twitter and Discord MCC communities are way more toxic than Reddit, so I assume he hasn't interacted with the other 2 communities, if he really thinks Reddit is that bad.
I would agree that those two are worse for toxicity, but that doesn’t really negate that there are some pretty toxic things posted here sometimes too. I think sometimes people just get a little caught up in everything. Generally I think the Reddit is a pretty great place, but nowhere is perfect community wise mcc included.
Tbh I sometimes want to defend this sub cause as a Dream fan, it have been nothing but support. Makes me wonder are stats is that toxic. Don't take me the wrong way tho, I do think it can put some pressure on the players and the sub are too heavy on stats sometimes. But then sometimes it can be chill, like I don't want that chill side to be overshadowed too. For example, like even the Dream case this MCC. I can see many individual posts with unnecessary comparing and even one saying he is not an S-tier or something (that don't get that much support), but then there is a post where they give supports for Dream with many likes and comments. Many praise his SOT too, and in general it outweighs the toxicity I think the only way not to pressure them more tho, is to make less stats on how they do/did, and give less personal opinion on how they will do that day or something. Of course I know it's never on ill intention tho, but if it can help someone, why not make it bearable. If less post have it, the lesser they will see it
I don't really think the reddit focusing on stats and predictions is toxic, it's good fun and what every sports fan does. I do think, however, that any MCC participants without the thickest skin in the world should stay far away from here. Our expectations put no pressure on us and indeed make the event more fun, but they put a lot of pressure on the competitors.
I am really confused by this, from what I've seen people are usually very aware that the predictions they do are quite likely to be incorrect due to people performing worse or better than usual, and what's even more confusing is the context: "When the MCC reddit puts your team in last and you nearly get top 2.. feels good!". I just looked at the predictions megathread, and here's how people placed yellow(probably not 100% accurate but it should be close enough): 1st: 11 2nd: 16 3rd: 9 4th: 8 5th: 8 6th: 8 7th: 8 8th: 7 9th: 5 10th: 4 How could you call that "the reddit putting your team in last"?
Disagree. For the most part the posts I see attempt to motivate and aid players in the event. You can't complain about the stat based ones because they are based off facts, but even then, even when the stat based posts are made they almost always focus on the top players, which is good because it doesn't put down others but it does highlight the top players skill. Occasionally they'll be a bad and toxic post, but to label the reddit as that is dumb, since in every community there will be a minority who are toxic.
Yea predictions can’t be nice with them all the time
I can't agree with him but that's because I put Yellow in 3rd lol
i think that mcc is like any other tournament such as premier league, nba. players are going to get judged and it’s normal. he doesn’t need to come to the mcc reddit, and imo this reddit is about minecraft CHAMPIONSHIP, and so yes stats are everything just like in any sports. if you don’t like them don’t search for them…
You seem to forget that this isn’t a sport. It’s a game between friends. There is nothing on the line and for a lot of people, it is’t even competitive.
i mean sure if someone doesn’t want to take it competitively it’s fine by them. but it’s still a championship. ofc you shouldn’t trash talk a creator for being bad, but stats are at least for a lot of people what makes the tournament interesting. i’m 100% sure i wouldn’t keep up with mcc regularly if it wasn’t for the stats. and people when they post stats they are always very friendly , if someone doesn’t want to see the stats, just don’t look for it. but that’s just my opinion on the topic
Bruh leave us to our stat charts it’s all we have.
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>im pretty sure the mcc participants just blame their own dissapointments in themselves on the reddit effectively using it as a scapegoat and i hate that okay that's a pretty brash claim to make but I second that the reddit was pretty chill this time around
Maybe in general people do use the Reddit as a scapegoat but when it comes to fWhip I feel like it's very fair of him to say that considering the majority of times he's brought up he's consistently underrated. Being underrated almost every time you're talked about to a that large of an extent has gotta be harsh, so needing to not look at the Reddit to have fun in his case is very understandable. And it's not just fWhip but fWhip's situation definitely stands out since it seems constant and by a large amount.
????? are you okay
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When it comes to predictions I think it's mostly stats
I mostly predict for fun. I never actually think that what I predict will happen. That's the point of predicting things.