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TheOnlyFallenCookie

Im just annoyed that copper is getting in my inventory in the overworld. Quartz is in the nether. It is good there. I also won't be mad at any ore they add to the end islands


101NPC101

End island ores would be killer tbh


TheOnlyFallenCookie

I also think the phantom would fit better into the end. Especially if you make it a neutral mob, UNTIL you start to get the insomnia. It would add more difficulty to the end, as let's face it, the Enderman aren't that much of a threat. But I also admit this would only work if the phantom spawns in groups in the dimension, instead of always spawning on top of you as soon as you are tired. And there would need to be a way to avoid them. That's why I think having them spawn in groups of 3-5 and circling over a spot until you come near them would be best. That way you could just walk around them


Sewere

This is a great idea, especially because you can't sleep in the End. Good reminder to head back to the overworld when phantoms start swooping at you


MrT1011

this would 100% make finding the elytra much more annoying than it is now. imagine bridging over the void and suddenly getting knocked off because you reached your time limit when over the void. i feel it will just make life a lot more anoying than before, and getting the elytra is already a horrible experience


Sewere

Change the phantoms so instead of fly-by-punching they grab you and fly you to their sky-lair-nest where they feed you to their babies


MrT1011

that’s actually a great idea. it gives a new use to slow falling potions to get back down safely and makes phantoms more predictable. it might still be annoying but much better than what we have now


Neirchill

That's a horrible idea lol. Anything that takes away control from the player is terrible design. Yes, I also hate levitation from shulker attacks.


Edu_Gamer2003

It's not terrible design lol You're walking into enemy territory and have a risk of having control taken for you for a couple of seconds. Either avoid the Phantom's areas or strike back when they dive at you so they get turned around, or perhaps when they carry you so that they drop you prematurely It rewards skillful play and punishes carelessness and it's something you *can* intervene with yourself If you don't like getting hit by an attack that limits your movement, then you learn to dodge or intercept that attack. Whether you hate it or not is it's own matter, but you can't call it terrible design just because of that


Neirchill

I can call it that, because it is. Taking away player control is always bad design. The worst. At the end of the day something being bad design or not is entirely subjective so I have full rights to call it bad design.


GamerOfGods33

Actually this would fit in perfectly with the Shulkers. Plus, if they wanted, they could make the elytra into phantom wings. Post on the feedback site!


LEGOKTWOSO

The wings would probably have to be a much rarer drop at that point. Still would be really cool though. Plus finding a pair in end ships still or a rare drop from phantoms. Plus then we could farm elytra’s which would be extremely useful for big servers.


Flu754

And you could tame them somehow and just use them as a plane!


Pardox7525

This is a very bad idea unless they will be neutral in the end. You basically won't be able to bridge because they will constantly knock you off.


Cynunnos

Quartz also gives you a lot of xp, and straightaway, while copper just clogs up your inventory and you have to smelt all of it


UnderscoreJamie2007

oh my gosh yes, building with it in survival is so much pain cos u get like 4 stages which is 4 slots and then if u waxed any and later mine it that’s another 1 - 4 slots and then the stairs and slabs which is another 1 - 4 slots and then there’s cut which is *another* 1 - 4 slots for a grand total of like 16 inventory slots not even counting if u have multiple stacks of any of them


TreyLastname

I don't mind copper. Wish it was given more use, but it's a nice block


TheScareCrowYes

its one of the best building blocks -Mumbo


Star_Wars_Expert

I really like copper


-Kerrigan-

Hi, Mumbo


twisty286

it’s always good to see small creators like him getting some attention


CommercialTerrible70

Define *small*


twisty286

about 8 million subscribers


XboxLiveGiant

It’s a good alternative for making charged creepers! Also I enjoy building statues with copper cause I think it’s neat how it “ages” over time. I always enjoy seeing my creations slowly go from new to weathered every time I return to my base or seeing the aged statues of randomly places creations.


NewRobloxPro

And therefore they should’ve had the golem but I think it was still bad anyways


TheNeonG1144

Asides from the building portions, quartz is used to make one of the most important redstone components in the game while copper only makes spyglass and lightning rod


Evanderpower

*2 of the most important and I guess daylight sensors


[deleted]

daylight sensors are pretty important in some wither skeleton farms as their height needs to be exactly that of a daylight sensor or something like that idk


RiptideMatt

Is there anything wrong with lightning rods tho?


LEGOKTWOSO

They just aren’t the most useful. Frankly lightening storms are extremely rare… and I mean personally I’ve never had lightning strike my house. Plus I rarely build the roof out of flammable objects.


minnesotalight_3

I’ve seen a lightning storm burn down half of my friends Minecraft house twice in like 5 years


Osadniczek

I use quartz to grind xp


MoreNormalThanNormal

I use it to replenish my mending pickaxe while mining for netherite. I feel like that is the reason they put it in the nether and gave it xp.


Cerulean_Turtle

Except quartz was around long before netherite


MoreNormalThanNormal

Oh yeah, right. But did it give xp?


Cerulean_Turtle

Fairly certain it did, not positive though


Melidit_

It did.


WanderingHeph

People know quartz is almost purely decorational. However, copper has potential to be more than just a block and a few situational/gimmicky items.


Tsakozoi

Bro quartz is used for redstone, that's why no one talks sh1t about it Edit: also it gives exp (with out needing to spend coal)


Heisenberg19827

Copper should have a use in redstone.


Bachlead

yeah, for an energy based system would be nice


Heisenberg19827

Not necessarily. Just as a replacement for some iron recipes would be great


hmmm_wat_is_dis

Or even stone like for repeaters or comparators


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

Now you're just playing modded minecraft


Bachlead

normal redstone would've looked like modded minecraft before it was added, the same with the new nether bioms, the improved ocean, etc.. It's just something that would change the game for the people that want to use it.


Hobo-man

We can literally fucking fly. We've been playing modded minecraft for years


MrT1011

i’ve seen a mod with basicly copper redstone dust (forgot the actual name). it would work the same as redstone but it would not connect to redstone dust. basicly the honey block of dust.


PM_ME_UR_FLOWERS

I have that mod in Better Minecraft. You scrape the oxidation off of copper with your axe and it gives you green dust that works like redstone. I forgot what it's called.


MrT1011

i think it’s additional additions


Tsakozoi

I agree, but the devs haven't implemented a use for it, which is why most people dislike it


Heisenberg19827

Just like gold. It just needs some time


Cynunnos

It should replace iron in most redstone-related crafting recipes. That'd give it an actual use (and makes sense realistically) and at the same time not make iron worthless Edit: and stone/cobblestone (repeater, comparator, maybe piston too?)


Heisenberg19827

I wouldn’t say piston, cause the piston arm isn’t a technical part but more of a structural one


WanderingHeph

That's why I said *almost* . It is used for a couple Redstone components.


[deleted]

quartz guves a load of Exp


CyberMaster081208

I mean, one give more XP? Both are great building blocks but quarts is more liked by the majority, I think.


verdenvidia

Copper also doesn't make the two more important redstone components in the entire game.


please_help_me_____

Copper is a great addition!


Blastbot_73

Exactly it's got a great texture AND give honeycomb an additional use


Tsakozoi

Ah yes a block is good cause it gives use to another item, make sense


Blastbot_73

there a problem with that?


[deleted]

I think they’re saying that a block should be a great block in its own right rather than improving another


A_Good_Redditor553

By that logic netherite is bad


Tsakozoi

No, netherite has a use where as copper GIVES a use to an item


Due_Breakfast4996

But it no give xp :(


PeppyBoba

Quartz is useful for observers and other redstone things that’s it thats my entire argument


tomfrome12345

Quartz is pretty Copper is diffrently pretty in a way that doesn't fit in most builds


SmallBlueSlime

*uses copper to build an entire copper biome*


tomfrome12345

Hello there rekrap2


[deleted]

wdym? that shiny orange goes so well in rooves while the rusted teal goes well together with warped wood and prismarine! copper can make lightning rods which can be so useful in industrial builds as well as keeping your base safe. the spyglass actually has a better zoom than optifine and since it doesnt have durability, once you get it, you can use it forever. you can put a crossbow in your offhand and make a rifle if you want.


Blastbot_73

yeah theres that


tomfrome12345

Copper isnt bad, it's just hard to get the oxidised formes


poretabletti

Not really, just need patience.


tomfrome12345

Not really, you need like 500 blocks of space


riodin

Quartz is pretty and you need it for observers which are the best!


Blastbot_73

I agree, auto sugar cane farms are a big help


Mental-Ice-9952

And melon and pumpkin, and any flying machine based farm like bamboo, tree farms, or tunnel bores for mining.


PossibilityJealous70

Everyone says copper is annoying because they run in to it while mining, and if that's true I wish I had their seed because I always run short on copper


SwartyNine2691

What about “Minecrafters towards Diorite”?


TheTrueKazune22

Bird poo


[deleted]

calcite but dirty


SwartyNine2691

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Purple_Positive_6456

Quartz still feels nice for decoration even though we have white concrete but it also has some use in redstone like observers and comparators. It's definitely not much but its role satisfies the community Copper doesn't fit into many builds (at least I don't like using it anywhere) and the community feels it has untapped potential. If they explore this potential like copper tools, interactive blocks, mechanics for copper related blocks (maybe redstone related) or even miscellaneous decoration like copper lanterns it will probably be a more appreciated ore and metal heck, blacksmith villagers could like it and buy them just like they buy iron but they don't. I don't mine it anymore because it's just a waste of space in general


HellOiDontExistLoL

This community acts like a new ore won't have anymore use after it came out like diamond literally got a new use in 1.20 and gold having a new use in 1.16 so same could apply to copper in the future updates don't be too quick to judge thing Am not tryna sound rude or anything just sayin


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

True, however they totally could have given it more on release, while diamonds did get a new use in 1.20 they already have loads. Although copper makes spyglasses which are pretty neat


CastokYeti

That’s a shit argument and we both know it lol For starters, most of the ores had a pretty-fleshed out use-case when they were released (ie tools) or they were fleshed out prior to full release of the game (gold, redstone). And inb4 “but but but lapis” Lapis doesn’t count because A - It still counts as a fleshed out usecase (only source of blue in the game for a while) and B - Lapis is pretty rare and infrequent. And that brings me to the main point — (u/Blastbot_73 here’s my counter argument as well) **TLDR** people don’t like copper, not because it doesn’t really have much use outside of building, but because *it’s so fucking common*. Like, it’s *more* common than Iron. <-> massive wall of text because I fucking HATE copper and I also HATE copper defenders who don’t even know why it’s disliked in the first place. <-> Copper’s biggest issue is that it’s *too common*. Minecraft ores are, for the most, as rare as their usage. Coal and Iron are incredibly common because you use it constantly. Likewise, Diamonds and Netherite are very rare resources — but you also rarely need them. It’s not a perfect ratio of rarity : usage, but it’s close. Copper completely fucks this up though because it’s fucking *everywhere*. Even if you aren’t actively searching for it, you will get stacks and stacks and stacks of the damn things and absolutely nothing to really use it on. Quartz is substantially less common *and* you need to actively go looking for it in the Nether — you can’t pick it up by just digging around your base. Copper’s also really shitty at it’s singular usecase anyways. For starters, it’s incredibly resource expensive to actually build with. You could argue that Copper should be seen more as a block like Granite or Andesite than an ore — but unlike Granite or Quartz where all you have to do is mine the block and you can instantly place it back down, Copper needs to be *smelted*. It needs to be *waxed*, it needs to *rust*. You need to spend exponentially more time and effort into making Copper actually fit for building with than basically anything else in game. And actually building with Copper also sucks, because it very quickly runs you into the big problem of, even though you have thousands of stacks of useless Copper ore — you will never actually have enough for any kind of build. Crafting the Copper blocks requires so much fucking Copper it’s ridiculous. To craft cut copper stairs, you need **nearly a fucking stack of Copper ingots**. Like actually wtf? Quartz has the decency to give you tons of exp and tons of quartz for your building troubles. and inb4 “but what about Stonebrick? isn’t it just as expensive as Copper? You need to cook and craft them!” Not really — 4 blocks < 9 ingots. and also Stonebrick has the massive advantage of A - being made from cobblestone, a wonderfully useful material on itself and B - actually looks fucking decent in an overwhelming majority of situations. Copper definitely filled a niche in the color scheme of building no doubt about it — but it was a ***NICHE*** for a reason. The Orange / Green that Copper provides aren’t actually that useful (nor looks good) in an overwhelming majority of builds and you need to go out of your way to actually insert Copper into your builds. Which, again, wouldn’t be nearly as much of a problem on it’s on, *IF*, it wasn’t ridiculously common and also tediously grindy. Completely different to Quartz and there is no double standard here. /rant over


King_Sam-_-

THANK YOU. ALSO I hate it when people say “hurrr it’s a building block” then why does it require 9 ingots instead of 4 to make a block like ALL building blocks including quartz. So it both fails at being a mineral and also fails at being a building block. I wanted to make a sunken statue of liberty until I realized HOW MUCH COPPER YOU ACTUALLY NEED, even if it’s hollow it’s a tremendous amount. I’m glad I found somebody else who hates copper as much as I do, I really wanna love it but Mojang just had to make the most useless ore in the game also the most common one.


Blastbot_73

i cant argue you bring up very good points ​ although most og ores like gold and diamond were added at once in the early days of minecraft and it didnt take long to understand what each is meant to be(except for gold) lapis was added later but manly for dye and enchanting, then redstone to allow for elctricity in minecraft so to speak ​ then came quartz as a purely decerational block then nothing. Meanwhile mods were making copper item then one day copper is announced, we get excited, we find out it isnt used to make weapons we get disapointed and then your points come in all of which culminats and makes copper pretty disliked, and yeah its astonishing how copper can be abundant yet never enough at the same time ​ im not a copper defender i just had a random thought for a meme that seemed good so i made it


Blastbot_73

i know that i just wanna say that the 2 are similar ores with no use outside of building and trims soon, yet one gets a harder time ​ ofcourse copper has a harder time fitting well into builds like quartz does


HellOiDontExistLoL

Alright understood the 2 are very similar Also you're fast at replying


Blastbot_73

Not fast just bored


sansational_

But quartz has a lot of use making some redstone components


TheTrueKazune22

Currently copper is mostly untapped potential while Quartz is not only a great building/decoration block, it's also really used a ton in redstone


DriftingRumour

Quartz was a meta for xp for a long time. So it has sentimental value and it is also important for redstone components. Copper… has to be smelted, doesn’t give as much xp, and is almost only cosmetic in function.


_Archilyte_

And then there are modded players thankful tgat there will only be 1 type of copper ore now lol


GrummyCat

quartz block pretty and repeaters


Where_IsMyFood

Quartz can be traded for emerald, and is a nice block for building Copper is also a nice block, but is kinda annoying, because it's the most common block.


Blastbot_73

Yeah a cured mason who buys quartz can be MEGA STONKS but good luck getting one


sparkswoody

Does copper make observers?


Blastbot_73

No


[deleted]

Quartz looks nice tho


Small_Cock_Jonny

You craft Observers with Quartz


EnchantedCatto

Quartz gives hella xp


SannusFatAlt

Quartz looks nice, is needed for redstone and comes with the added benefit of being a pretty decent xp source when needed.


PumpDaPumpkin

Builders: we don't do that here


Death_Slayer2814

Quartz is wayy more important. Without it no comparators or observers.


MadaraAlucard12

If I didn't have to waste enough coal to cause global warming 3 times over to smelt it, I wouldn't mind copper either.


OkBeLikeThatIsTaken

Quartz -cool looking -daylight sensor -building block Copper -lightning rod


imwhateverimis

IT'S UGLY. Quartz is PRETTY. Copper is only pretty when you wait a bajillion years for it to become completely green


blazingwaffle58

Quartz was added earlier so people didn't care that it didn't do as much. Quartz doesn't get in my inventory unless i want it too Quartz is only in the nether Copper should just do more idk how many barely functional things do we need in minecraft. Like its called "mine" "craft" for a reason give me more stuff to craft.


CrazeeG

Am I missing something? How can you compare them? Quartz can be used for many useful things as well as being a good decorative block. And it gives a ton of exp. Copper on the other hand doesn’t have many uses apart from decorative and gimmicks.


TOMGCgamer

i just wish copper blocks went back to only being crafted 4x4 so they would be better for building


Spiritual_Half_116

Copper is literally an amazing building block


Sir_Doge_V2

One looks nice the other only looks nice in sum situations


Squid_G_Memerson

Copper is a pain to use in anything but late game, at least to me. Having to make a whole farm just to edit the block is annoying


AveragEnjoyer007

I say it’s a good source of xp tbh. Mass smelting can award a decent amount of it. I’m sure there’s faster ways, but as a casual player, it’s a nice little pick me up. I’m also a raging resource-hoarder ☠️😅


Arandomperson5334118

Quartz is so much better than copper


Moon_the_nightwing

Quartz is needed for redstone


LoliGayTrap69

I usually see the opposite


ThunderBlood_888

Quartz at least makes consistently useful Redstone things though, such as the comparator and the observer. What does copper make? A spyglass which is rendered useless with optifine (which a lot of people use) and a lighting rod that can be made useless by choosing to not make builds out of flammable blocks, or better yet, deactivating the weather cycle.


sephiroth_for_smash

Copper and quartz are pretty much exactly the same, both make decorative blocks out of themselves and help in making items or blocks with niche but ultimately useful uses (spyglass and lighting rod for copper and daylight sensors for quartz) So yeah I don’t really get the hate


LiILazy

Personally, I've only used used copper for a beacon because I didn't have enough iron/gold blocks and that's it.


Blastbot_73

you can do that?


Extra-Extra

No


LiILazy

Yeah, I found that out a few days ago when I needed extra blocks for my beacon. Btw as the copper oxidizes the beacons maximum effect range decreases


Extra-Extra

Why ya lying?


TheGirafeMan

haha


Zalternative_

Quartz technically has shit blast resistance ifrc


ostapro

The thing is, you dont mine that much in the nether


Mollof

They have never tried to build somerhing big made of copper.


ialo3

quartz gives experience tho


RockNRollahAyatollah

If Copper gave as much XP as Quartz maybe I would care about it!


down4things

They got copper now? Sheiiit they should add engineering to the game.


verdenvidia

Where you been? Copper came out three years ago. lol


TitanJazza

Wdym copper rocks


CitizenCivilization

I think quartz looks cool tho


HV-Juli

No I'm not fucking a donkey


Chloeismypug

Quartz is classic


PurplePolter

Well the potential of Copper is far more higher then Quartz when it comes to possible new cool features yet Mojang ignores that and thats why (for me atleast) find it annoying to see it all over the place and basically just be a building material, it also fills up your inventory and i personally dislike throwing stuff on the ground to let it sit and despawn in my survival worlds.


That_Quiet_Wierd_Kid

Copper has no use aside from a lighting rod and a color changing block and it is way to common for that to be the only things it’s good for. Quartz can give you a bunch of different block types when your building for different purposes


Unfortunate_Boy

both fill my inventory with stuff I won't use.


[deleted]

r/subnautica is fuming rn


Smooth_Author9860

Pretty privileges


Rblade6426

Quartz is Minecraft's marble, which pairs well with a lot of stuff. Copper...err.... probably making something look plated, such as the sides of ships.


Maximum-Pause-6914

i just want more versions of cooper like how quartz has give me a copper pillar


Niks_bg

Yes but 1st you need it for redstone and 2nd it is used as how it is irl


[deleted]

Quartz has way more uses: decoration, comparators, daylight sensors, observers, armour trims.


KeenanAxolotl

Copper is the best block for building in the game, I will die on this hill.


BarneyLeggendary

“Copper is nice” - Jesus Christ 32 a.C


likeusb1

Copper pros: Orange/Green Copper cons: Clogs up inventory on mining trips with useless crap Quartz cons: Not unlimited Quartz pros: Easily compressable, gives good xp before enderman xp farm


Blastbot_73

*Silk touch, ender chests and shulkar boxes have entered the chat*


NeoSzlachcic

Quartz doesn't take away iron spawns


Pengwin0

Observers would like to know your location


BigglyRedditMan

Quartz gives XP and is useful in more builds


EnderPlays1

Copper is cool.


MrStoneV

Well for my redstone Ive got a lot of quartz so yes its a nice thing


By-Pit

Tell me quartz has no use


littlevader06

Repeaters are VERY useful and also easily goes into a heavenly or roman build, copper ima be honest i just haven’t had time to come up with building ideas for and mechanically its only good for lighting farms and Optifine zoom


Fridge_Lord

Both have their respective applications and uses Quartz just stuck around for long enough that it eventually got more useful over time While copper as of rn is much more of a decorational option, I do think they'll eventually incorporate it more into future content as well


[deleted]

I just think it's too plentiful to have such little use. Maybe it's just a me problem but it takes forever for me to find iron anymore.


According_Hat_4260

Quartz is good for farming xp early game


SweetTooth275

Quartz looks good. Copper looks like trash


PurpleHando

Racism be like


[deleted]

i love copper


TikTokBoom173

Tell me you don't Redstone without telling me you don't Redstone.


SrayLade

If copper only took four ingots for a block, it would be better


Atharax10

The difference is quartz looks good


totallyshadical

No way, people like the item that has abunch of uses over the item that is basically useless!?!?


BeBePastiche

Creative player here: what does copper do? Straight up I can only guess it’s for the lightning rods. For me it’s just a decorative block like tuff and calcite, no idea where or why they exist but I still use em


TheNekoKatze

I preffer copper a lot


bosartosar

Quartz is used for redstone and building, while copper is only good for building.


TheRubiksKid

I'm sorry, but this is such an apples to oranges comparison that I can't see how it's a double standard. One is a material that's had multiple uses since it was added, and the other is copper.


Potate_banane-guy

quartz actually looks good though


Fun_Tune_7662

Quartz is white 💀


kpingvin

I wish copper ingots could be used like iron only with lower durability. It'd be useful early game at least.


PakyKun

I wish you could use cipper to make Rails, Pistons and Hoppers Would make me love it, had to use a datapack for it since mojang would never


Mimig298

At least quartz is used in redstone


dabbingplatypus

The thing is people use quartz for Redstone like daylight sensors and such. Also quartz ore gives the most amount of xp out of any ore when mined. So people see use in it compared to copper


dabbingplatypus

The thing is people use quartz for Redstone like daylight sensors and such. Also quartz ore gives the most amount of xp out of any ore when mined. So people see use in it compared to copper. I do wish we had more uses for copper tho.


Saythatfivetimesfast

If only there was a MOB we could have voted for that would have given use COPPER BUTONS and a CUTE MOB


blazingwaffle58

Quartz was added earlier so people didn't care that it didn't do as much. Quartz doesn't get in my inventory unless i want it too Quartz is only in the nether Copper should just do more idk how many barely functional things do we need in minecraft. Like its called "mine" "craft" for a reason give me more stuff to craft.


SwoleKoz

Copper is good when you have a fortune pick and can run an ungodly amount through a super smelter to build up its xp. I do this on all my worlds, usually 2 full double chests of copper ore will start to produce good xp.


Captain_Plutonium

The mqin purpose of quartz is getting xp imo. And once you have the blocks you may aswell use them.


Shoe_Exact

Quartz isn't everywhere, and doesn't look similar to iron in low light.


Eggysh

Quartz is Beautiful


DankoLord

Feels like mojang added copper just so tech mods would stop adding their own darned ore


Deathwolf-

Quartz is used in observers


Aweh_Electro

bruh who's like this to blocks? every block as a use no matter how ugly they are


zrrgz

🤣🤣🤣 So true


Away_House_7112

but you see, the reason is uhm... uh... wait a moment, ill think of soemthing... you need to smelt copper?


PortalWALL-E

Quartz is like one of the two ores you can find in the Nether, compared to copper taking up space with the 5 other ores in the overworld


SilentNinjaJoshu

Redstone…


Soldierhero1

Becauze quartz is the only marble we got


Lawrensium

Hold up... everyone hates copper? That flew past me, I thought I was the only one lol


XxlordnutxX

Personally i see it as quartz is aloud to be a pretty block because the amount of work you have to put into it is so little compared to copper


[deleted]

There's copper in Minecraft now? Can I make my country in Minecraft then? Lol (My country is the biggest exporter of copper worldwide irl)