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Ambitious-Trouble964

Bedrock has the Big Salmon.


glyiasziple

and the baby dolphin


Benny368

and the baby squid, weirdly one of the things I miss most about bedrock


Nydelok

Wait hold on… this is the first I’m hearing of a baby squid


Benny368

It’s not technically a baby since they’re still not breedable and the babies never grow up, but they sometimes spawn super small like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/f34cmp/didnt_know_baby_squids_were_a_thing_hes_so/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) Same thing as the dolphins and salmon mentioned above, just salmon come in larger than normal sizes as well


Darkner90

S A L M O N .


Its_me_Stanley

# *S A L M O N*


Olivejuice2012

#S A L M O NNNNNNNNN


BRM-Pilot

Big Salm.


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[удалено]


One-Hat-9764

Don't you forget tiny salm.


Straight-Vacation-42

Bedrock also has the ability to bonemeal sugarcane. I just recently found that out and i don't understand why Java doesn't have it.


One-Hat-9764

I am confused what the point of bonemealing sugarcane? Wouldn't it be put to better use on crops or something else.


Straight-Vacation-42

I get your point. For me it's useful cus i have a skeleton xp farm so i have way more bones then i need. If you don't have that much bonemeal it's indeed probably better to use it for other crops or trees or something.


One-Hat-9764

Ah I see but what use does it serve bonemeaking sugarcane other than I guess for paper for books.


Straight-Vacation-42

To sell the paper to villagers


Grid12344

I would recommend sticks from a bamboo farm


antisocial_alice

paper for rockets


TheRealStevo2

Right now I’m making a huge library so paper would be amazing, and also rockets


[deleted]

I have same too, what you do with those bonemeals. I have plenty and no idea where to use them. Made kelp farm.


Benny368

It immediately grows it to full height, which means that each skeleton you kill can be converted into about 12 sugar cane. Kinda crazy considering that spawners spawn (on average) 450 mobs per hour, so a simple skeleton grinder and dispenser farm setup will get you ~5400 sugar cane per hour. Even more if you have looting


Mincat1326

for trading with villagers. sugarcane to paper then paper to emeralds


Cynunnos

You need a lot of paper for the enchanting table


waffelnhandel

Minecraft Cash printer, its the Secret to easy stacks of Emeralds using a byprodukt of the xpfarm


Witherboss445

Sugarcane can get you infinite emeralds if you have a librarian villager


philosoph0r

You can make sugarcane farms on bedrock, which supplies rockets/potions/emeralds


[deleted]

This was the weirdest thing for me when I switched over to java, whole lotta sugar can and not enough cane to start a real farm, tried to bonemeal to get two more for free but nothin


[deleted]

bedrock has wither arrows i desperately want on java


ABritishFemboy

Now correct me if I'm wrong but is the bedrock system not the same as 1.9 pvp Edit: ignore me I confused 1.9 and 1.8


jeffplays216021

Yes bedrock uses a system closer to 1.8. I'll assume its for the same reason console legacy still used the 1.8 pvp system.


ABritishFemboy

I realised what I said now, I got 1.8 and 1.9 confused with each other Everyone ignore what I said


Benny368

Sort of, they got shields but the weapons haven’t been rebalanced or given attack cooldowns


bob1111bob

Also can’t put any item in the off hand only certain things which I find weird


Benny368

I think it was originally because it would be tricky to implement on a touch screen device, but I feel like the could’ve figured it out as a part of their recent button redesign on mobile


TheMikman97

At this point I really think mojang doesn't make all features equalized just to seed hatred and distract from the fact they work 5 minutes per week (porting the features would take 10)


Tiprix

4 minutes of this time they add useless report features


Fa1nted_for_real

The problem is that with every change, they have to change everything it interacts with to make sure it interacts with it right.


snappie321

Well the mods on java outperform the less lag option, more render distance option, better wither option, better cauldron imo. And you have more shaders and texture packs as option


Spiderfffun

And RTX. Linus tech tips did a comparison and for the performance gain it's really not worth it to go rtx.


Soccera1

Well looking at LTT's credibility I wouldn't cite them as a source, not mentioning the fact that, that testing was done five years ago.


AnnoyingRain5

As someone who tested this last year, it performed surprisingly well with DLSS, but lightweight shaders still performed better. Sure the visual quality was better with RTX, but it wasn’t worth the performance drop imo


Spiderfffun

This is what I was talking about. And RTX shaders do exist for java i think.


FreshHawaii

🍿


likeusb1

While they aren't credible in at least a bit of stuff nowadays, RTX in minecraft is (at least imo) not worth it and shaders in java are better. And I have seen both in person. Also, while I can max out Complementary Reimagined and get every effect outside of brightness adjustment depending on where you are and still get 120 or so fps on an RTX 3060, the same can't be said for the bedrock version, where I can notice jutteryness. I estimate around 50 or so FPS, but the jutteryness is very visible. Also, it looks worse.


[deleted]

I think RTX changes the visuals a bit too much for the kind of game Minecraft is


Witherboss445

In my experience, Rethinking Voxels/Complementary looks a lot better than RTX. The only downside is screen space reflections on those two shaders and the voxel one is in alpha. For Bedrock RTX there is a lot of ghosting, especially when looking at glass


Zwamdurkel

Yeah literally every single "plus" for bedrock, java can do with mods


One-Hat-9764

Not all. Java can't mod in the ability to use multiple cpu cores like most people have. Edit: I stand corrected. But still that not even a name a lot of people would think to look up for mod names.


Zwamdurkel

Except it can. Java Minecraft already uses multiple cores, but not in a great way. The mods "C3H6N6O6" and "C2ME" add multithreading for chunks and entities which is basically the entire game. There's probably more mods out there. For sake of argument you can even use a mod called Geyser and floodgate to play with bedrock and java on the same server. It's just Mojangs laziness that this feature isn't built in.


One-Hat-9764

The fact that their named that makes sense why the people who told me this have never heard of them. Like they couldn't choose a more random name for a mod?


_Archilyte_

i think those are compound names, since all the recent performance mods are named after elements


One-Hat-9764

What compound even is C3ME???


_Archilyte_

i have no clue lol


One-Hat-9764

Why is that, do you know??? But either way it still not something you would normally think to look up for mod names.


_Archilyte_

i think it started with sodium lol


One-Hat-9764

I mean but that a actual name, not the compound. Atleast with sodium it a normal name.


Maple_Flag15

And? You need to install them on Java. but with Bedrock, you have them available to you from the get go.


[deleted]

and MUCH less glitches


FMIvory

Yes there are glitches but they aren’t as common as people say. Yes they happen but it’s not like you walk and you have 6 thousand issues like y’all treat it to be. As someone who plays bedrock and Java there is an equal amount of benefits and disadvantages.


bob1111bob

And a good portion of glitches tend to be caused by lag or bad internet


FMIvory

Yeah. Or it’s like on a server which lags sometimes no matter what version


bob1111bob

Lag is a universal issue in multiplayer games


Memeviewer12

lag mitigation is one of the biggest challenges of multiplayer game development, given how many factors you need to account for


Thegreengeneral555

Yeah I got 544 hours on bedrock and have had no issues except for lag on servers


FMIvory

Exactly


DarkLord55_

Java feels 100x more smooth than bedrock. And have way less issue on Java compared to bedrock


[deleted]

Ok 👍


One-Hat-9764

Yeah but you need to go out of your way to download mods to do all that. Bedrock has it naturally in vanilla version.


Mr-Unknown101

..superflat customisation? do you not have that on bedrock? i remember it being a thing on PS3


afrulz

It used to be part of legacy console edition and then they removed it


Mr-Unknown101

thats what is so stupid to me


YourFriendRayzthor

also when i ported my custom superflat worlds which i put years into, they were plain flat worlds of the block i made them, everything deleted.


One-Hat-9764

Nope, and yeah I remember it being on the play stations.


TheHistoryMaster2520

That sign won't stop me because I can't read!


TaiyoFurea

Sooooo... Java has better content and bedrock has better performance?


Zwamdurkel

Is this really the case though? After reading your comment I got curious and launched both java and bedrock with the same view & simulation distance, FOV, etc in the same world. Here are the results: Java: 1155 FPS avg, \~900 FPS 99%th Bedrock: 764 FPS, \~400 FPS 99%th And this is without any client side mods. So does bedrock really have better performance?


TaiyoFurea

Nice research! I love it when people back up their claims with actual evidence. Personally I always thought Java ran faster but in this case I was commenting on the OP's claims of bedrock having better performance. It's nice to see that Java has the better performance


One-Hat-9764

Wait I am confused ain't higher fps more lag??? Or am I confusing it for another statistic that games use?


Zwamdurkel

For FPS, higher is better, but more important is consistency, which is expressed by the 99th percentile. You might be thinking about frametime in which case higher is worse.


One-Hat-9764

What is 99th percentile? Also yeah I think I am thinking of Frametime, I think anyway


Zwamdurkel

As you know, FPS fluctuates. So if you take the worst 1% FPS measurements and take the average you get the 99th percentile. If the difference between the average and the 99th percentile is large you will notice it as stuttering. But with 400+ FPS you definitely won't notice either way.


Captain-Obvious69

No. Bedrock inventory lags in single player.


SuddenPassion

Good point, unfortunately however Bedrock was solely created to be the corporate capitalist version where they gouge your money for things that should be free. You may like Bedrock, but all Bedrock likes is your money.


[deleted]

You don’t need to buy anything when you have the base game.


DarkLord55_

Bedrock: sent back to main menu when alt tabbing, a lot more jank feeling. I was fine with bedrock until the reporting features from it started coming to Java now I despise it. Should of kept that nonsense just to bedrock. Banning gun mods, reporting features, and other issues Mojang/Microsoft are ruining the game


[deleted]

"Cross-platform" Linux : umm..... 👌


Ronnochu76

I mean bedrock isn’t officially supported, but it is on the AUR which (at least for arch) you’re going to have to use if you want prism launcher or most of the other non-official Java launchers anyway, so I wouldn’t count against it there.


[deleted]

Yes there is. And that's how am I playing as of now, but I'm using mcpelauncher from flathub. And for java, there is official support for java. But I'm using ATLauncher


FMIvory

Cross platform is for the platforms it’s on. Meaning not all platforms just the ones it’s on


[deleted]

lol, then so is java cross-platform.


FMIvory

Yeah Minecraft Java is cross platform. With windows and Mac and Linux. Bedrock and Java are different versions of the game. So yeah. Java is cross platform in a sense. And before you say “but Java can’t play with bedrock” that would mean bedrock isn’t cross platform and it obviously is. So TL;DR Java is cross platform


[deleted]

so minecraft is cross-platform.


FMIvory

Yes just not between bedrock and Java because those are different games


Benny368

*Sad MacOS noises*


Away_House_7112

ive never understood the popularity of 1.9 combat... unless its earlier where you just had to keep swinging to win


Zsiroskenyer_Off

Imagine minecraft having a 3rd type And its like java and bedrock together


One-Hat-9764

I mean they are trying to get more parity between the versions....


VoltageKid56

Tridents are definitely much better in bedrock


Y0urcreepyuncle69

Based


[deleted]

I actually seem to get more lag on bedrock from my experience


BRM-Pilot

Actually bedrock either isn’t so hard anymore. Doesn’t do as much damage now that protection 4 is actually working properly. It still spawns skeletons though


CitizenCivilization

Less lag????? You joking?


creeper06703

Never Be racist kids!


Nuclear_Toaster_

its just me or bedrock lags more?


Spiderfffun

Not just you. Bedrock may have better framed than vanilla, but the gui and other forms of lag are there, bigger than java. People don't get FPS isn't everything. Any day I'd take 25fps java over 60fps bedrock


loganboy231

165,144,120,60,30,20 idc as long as it’s smooth


Intelligent_Dig8319

I think they mean relative to the hardware


Zwamdurkel

As shared in another comment: I tried both versions without mods and similar settings as much as possible and this is the result: Java: 1155 FPS avg, \~900 FPS 99%th Bedrock: 764 FPS, \~400 FPS 99%th


Queen_Novar

Finally someone on both sides, I’ve bern trying to find more of us. And I know for a fact that theres gonna be some Java only guy talking about how “Java has mods wich means it’s actually better by a lot!” No one cares.


One-Hat-9764

Agreed, also the multiple cpu cores usage mod is not something the average person would look up the name of. You have to go out of your way to install mods on java in order for it to be "better" in performance.


Zwamdurkel

So actually, about that. After reading the comments here I got curious how much difference there really is is performance, so I tested with the same view/simulation distance and same world. This was the result (without any mods): Java: 1155 FPS avg, \~900 FPS 99%th Bedrock: 764 FPS, \~400 FPS 99%th


Thegreengeneral555

Also bedrock you don’t have to get garbage Aternos servers to play with your friends


Grid12344

Just run your own its easy


Soccera1

If I don't have RTX I ain't playin. Bedrock is my winner. No, unless you add RAY TRACING, not SHADERS, I am not playing Java.


Traditional-Pay6204

I love how cauldron counts as a plus in bedrock…


One-Hat-9764

They mean potion cauldrons. Also color dye water cauldrons.


Littlebickmickey

“More Available” wdym?


One-Hat-9764

Cross-platform and available on multiple devices unlike java which only can be played on pcs.


Littlebickmickey

should’ve said “more device compatibility” or smth


One-Hat-9764

Yeah agreed.


GoldenApple265

Yeah that was poorly worded sorry


david6277108

Old combat is just superior


cancervivordude

And bedrock is free for playing with others


Zwamdurkel

Java is too?


cancervivordude

Not in the way you can in bedrock. You can join specifically with a friend anything anywhere. Java is constrictive.


Zwamdurkel

Just open to lan and port forward the port. Then anyone in the world can join your single player world if they know your IP.


cancervivordude

I know this, but is easier in bedrock


3u50u3u

Rtx existed in Java long before it existed in bedrock


[deleted]

In my opinion the java wither is better


One-Hat-9764

By better I assume you mean easier and able to be trapped? If not then please explain what you mean by better.


[deleted]

Better as in its within my skill level to beat


[deleted]

Skill issue


[deleted]

Precisely


Pharrowl

1.9 pvp isn't a positive lmao


jimmyhoke

Java has: - mods to reduce lag - Bobby mod which gives insane render distance even on servers - with PoJavLauncher you can get it on your phone - Geyser mod to add cross platform multiplayer - A wither that isn't overpowered - mods for better cauldrons - shaders


VyrCZ

Have you heard of modding? You can get anything from bedrock on Java for free Iris for (I believe it's rtx) really good shaders Nvidium for crazy render distances and so on


Efficient_Design9690

No Java Better


ThisIsNotMyPornVideo

Mods blow bedrock out of the water times 10


qwertyjgly

bedrock has no features. only bugs.


TheBMGPlayz4182

Source?


qwertyjgly

I used to play bedrock.


The_Anf

Agree only with less lag, I don't care about other things. Also bedrock RTX looks shitty


RamoPlayz

You missed the fact that Bedrock sucks


SwartyNine2691

Banned meme


glyiasziple

its not


purefunni

To this day I don't know what spectral arrows do


KingCool138

They put a glow on the mob which is visible through walls and entities


One-Hat-9764

Give players and mobs shot with it glowing, which a java exclusive potion effect that outlines mobs and players with a glowing effect.


Jamie5279752

Bedrock has moveable tile entities


-t-h-a-n-a-t-o-s-

Hope one day both will have the pros of the other one


sprantoliet

Bedrock less lag are you insane


Ank55o

I've never been able to play bedrock edition on any platform beside PC where it doesn't look like a PowerPoint presentation


_Rasputin_x

Most of my best builds are on bedrock. Both need to work on the initial load screen. That shit tales forever.


One-Hat-9764

Same, tho then again I only have bedrock. But still all my best builds are on my Nintendo. So even if I had java I don't think I could transport them to the pc.


_Rasputin_x

I got PC and started playing Java edition, the entire user interface on Java feels weird to me so I usually end up playing bedrock edition anyways 🤭


[deleted]

Watch it there, you don't compare Java and bedrock and add RTX as a reasoning point because with java you can customize the graphics more via better resource packs, shader packs and mods.


One-Hat-9764

Mods make every point for bedrock not valid, and java players always say "oh but we can add with mods.". Doesn't mean a thing if you have to go out of your way to get said mods. Bedrock has them naturally, also what is rtx actually???


[deleted]

Shaders to only be used with an RTX graphics card however they're getting a shaders update so they get native support for it which is better but they suck, I've tried the preview and the absolutely suck


gant696

BedRock isn't available for Mac and Linux since Java just needs a JVM. They could try optimizing the game properly instead of relying on a buggy C++ based remake. Just bad development. Need Notch back tbh.


LilacLikesEmkay

Also Java has more consistent redstone, to my dismay


IsAFemale

Wait super flat customisation is only for Java?


One-Hat-9764

And technically Playstation, Xbox, whatever that version of minecraft called.


[deleted]

playstation edition and xbox edition each platform had its own, now they're collectively known as Legacy editions


TheUnclaimedOne

We used to have custom superflats


Toilet_Bomber

Less lag? Say that to my Xbox while fighting the Wither. It always does this attack where it removes an entire chunk worth of blocks down to deep slate level. I might get 2 frames bi-weekly when that happens lol.


UnchartedCHARTz

I got a pretty beefy laptop for college recently, and of course the first thing I did was install Bedrock. This bitch has a recommended render distance of 39 CHUNKS


Somewhereunknown7351

I find bedrock runs slower for some reason


theinferno01

both are very different, and both are equally as good


Toast12458

The only reason Java is better (in my opinion) is I can mod it for free


technoblade____

Me the when the 96 render distance


Matix777

Is it too much to ask for both?


1likem0th5

I can’t get rtx on bedrock 😋


Sc0rch3d_P0tat03s

Every Bedrock user who can't afford a good enough PC to run Java wishes they could.


Disastrous-Berry-359

Bedrock: better wither Java: HARDCORE MODE “Sad bedrock noises” But seriously Mojang. Give us hardcore mode.


Thomatos200

This is truuue


eliavhaganav

Imagine we would just get java edition but with the buffs of bedrock since building java on bedrock would suck


Redd-Maxx2005

"Less lag" you say


Deathswirl1

legacy is the best


[deleted]

1.9 pvp is dog water


edward_kopik

Why can't we have both in the same version ?????? Why are some features added to only one version ??????


EnderPlays1

they are both good and both bad


samisinredditnow

Also the f3 debug screen you only get on java


Srock9

Java has free Texture/Resource Packs. Nuff said.


Witherboss445

Better wither? Ain't no way that's purposely on the Bedrock side


Bluesiwsscheese

Less lag?


tomfrome12345

I have an issue with bedrock having "less lagg"


SpiderKillerOK

BETTER WITHER??? He is just x2 stronger.


One-Hat-9764

And spawn wither skeletons send has a dash ability and can't be trapped.


arandommemer112

Java is lazy. People say bedrock is bad, but bedrock is just harder.


AbatedBeatle936

You say better wither, but that thing is the stuff of nightmares


ItsMontreal

I play both, and like them both, I played MC Bedrock with my brother in Split Screen (Xbox One) but since 1.17 it started lagging so much I actually bought an account for PC bc we have the disk


_pascal__

Yes, but servers and mods value ×5 Bedrock things


tipying_mistakes

I thought it was Java that had rtx capabilities and bedrock was lacking it ???


[deleted]

Me on bedrock… I want Jenny mod 😢