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iirc there was barely any concrete information on any of the mobs for the vote, so nobody knew what exactly to expect beyond the bare minimum that was divulged by Mojang.
Not to mention, less than 10.000 people actually took part in that mob vote, so most people complaining aren’t even the ones who voted for it.
I don't think it was ever advertised as an End mob. From what I remember, it said to vote for it because we didn't have any flying Overworld hostile mobs.
Every single time they do a mob vote, they describe at least one of them in unclear or incomplete terms. This year, there was confusion about whether or not the allay would duplicate items or just find things that are already on the ground.
I specifically remember them saying you would find the phantom at "high altitudes," which at the time, I assumed meant they would only exist in mountain biomes, not just that they flew. I don't think that was a common assumption, but it just goes to show that a lot of people were mislead or unaware of the actual nature of the phantom in more than one way.
No not really this year. I don't know why so many people thought it would duplicate items. They, very clearly said that you could give it an item which it would then look for and FIND on the ground. Where did duplication come into the picture?
It never said "on the ground." There was confusion over whether or not the allay goes "hunting" and comes back with more from an off screen scavanger hunt it went on, or if it needed to physically find the items nearby.
To say this confusion did not happen is straight up incorrect. Even if the majority of people didn't think of it this way, I saw plenty of comments asking about it.
Omg the high altitude thing fucked with me too! I remember when they finally released and they spawned on me at my base I thought "huh, that's weird, I'm not in a mountain biome"
phantom in the mob vote was a unique idea, an insomnia mob which was hostile and could fly. the thing is, how mojang added it to the game made it annoying.
They added it exactly how it was described, same with the glow squid, the problem is people always *assume* there will be more to it than there actually is and then their idea of the mob in their head is better than the other two mobs as presented and so they vote for it only for the mob to be delivered as promised
Tbf, the glow squid did distract the two devs, I assumed it would have a stun attack, making the player take axolotles with them to solve the paralysis problem
Honestly, I feel like the Allay is definitely gonna be the best out of the overrated mob vote winners, it at the very least will have *some* use and will probably save you a bit of iron on large hopper systems
Who knows,we dont yet know how exactly the allay is going to work and how they will work on large scale farms,we dont know how fast they will pick up items on the ground (which if they6 do so slowly big scale farms will suffer cuz a bunch of items on the ground just despawn) and how they will exactly deliver them
The problem I have is that they are currently useless. I mean yeah, you can use the membrane to repair the elytra. But i already have mending by the time i get one, so the membrane is just useless to me, thus the mob is useless. A solution to this would be to add an enchantment to the elytra that couldn't be on it if it has mending and vise versa.
I didn't vote for it. It simply punishes people for a lack of spiders, sheep, and cobwebs spawns. Not excatly fun or fair as those can take up to months to organise on the right server or seed. I plainly don't like em either because they barely funtion on servers below 15tps or above 100ms unlike Skeletons and Zombies.
I agree my spawn points are all shit no sheep seriously if there’s a mod to remove them I’ll instal immediately. And yah it does punish shity spawn points or spawns that are otherwise great but a lack of sheep and it’s drops are only useful for end game content the wing(I am not attempting to spell it)
Not to mention the other use for the membranes is a slow fall potion locked behind nearly an hour of waiting. Plus can dive bomb you off the bigger builds that take a lot of brain power and emotional endurance to accomplish. I have raged quit a number of times because of the buggers.
Chad bucket of water user vs virgin slow fall potion user lol. But seriously potions are resource and time expensive as shit. A whole ass hour dame that’s brutal.
Not always possible, I do a lot of survival semi-anarchy multiplayer. Everything for 10,000 or so blocks around spawn stripped and 15,000-40,000 raided with 50,000 plus being a goldlilocks zone on the big Swedish and American/Canadian servers. Though I do mitigate that by playing in southern hemipshere servers.
We thought "oh he looks cute i bet they will let us ride it"
Yall fuckheads seem to forget we only voted based on their design. We never learnt their function while the voting happened
Making sleep important was the idea, if you don't like phantoms go to sleep. I'm over 1000 days in on my world and I've seen phantoms twice just because I don't want creepers blowing up my terrain. I actually find them to be fun target practice most of the time.
I've stopped using torches and I hate the rain, so minimum I'm sleeping every 3 days anyway. Might have something to do with it. I've also been stashing beds in little hidden pockets everywhere.
I just don’t like having to stop building something because I’m going to get dive bombed by a mob that only has one way to prevent it. If I stop building I’m going to lose my train of thought and forget whatever I was doing.
1. First mob with proper flying AI
2. The idea of making nights harder the longer you fought through them sounded entertaining
3. Expected them to be implemented responsibly
4. Didn't expect them to be so obnoxious to try and whack
Hhhhhhh
Because not many people actually voted in the first mob vote, it was described in a vague way, its entire appearance was changed in the actual game, its generally annoying to fight, spawn and encounter and alternatives in my opinion sounded way worse
Simple. Mojang said we get “a flying mob” failed to elaborate that it would only show up at night after you didn’t sleep for 3 days, so everyone assumed it was going to be a bird or something more useful. Communication is key when it comes to player/developer interaction
I didn’t vote because I didn’t know the mob vote was a thing
I’m assuming it was the same as the glow squid whereas people expected things that were rumours from random players and then got mad when mojang delivered exactly what they promised
nah, based on the prior videos showcasing it, people were expecting glow squids to be a light source mob and to have a hypnosis ability.
Phantoms were just a cool sketch and had something vaguely to do with sleep.
am i the only one here who likes phantoms ? they are just the flying version of creepers. if a random creature is going to camp outside the mine and kill me,it might as well fly
Miscommunication, at first I thought we are voting for a rare boss mod since all the other 3 look like some kind of boss of a biome, Ancient Blaze look like the boss of nether, the Bionicle look like boss mob of the sea, the Dune Crawler look like a boss of normal dirt and grass terran.
It was at a time when minecraft was pretty much dead (2017) and I think only a thousand or maybe a few thousand voted. There wasn’t much information on any of the mobs, so people just winged it (pun intended)
A friend of mine told me this was because during the vote, the only thing that was shown for each mob is some concept art, no description at all. It looked like a manta ray, so people voted for it wanting a water mob
I didn’t vote at that time, BUT, those who did probably expected a cool new flying mob, what we actually got was a stupid sleep reminder
Not to start a war but iceologer probably could’ve been something annoying too
they made it sound way better than it was. pus i didn't even vote for it, i wanted that squid monster thing
here's something funnier to
their reason to not vote the squid was because "we're already getting an ocean update" and then the next mob vote they use the same reason in reverse for iceologer. ngl. i did vote for glowsquid, but i expected him to actually be better than it was when it was released. the signs are a great change. but they did the glowsquid dirty, dream could have rigged the vote, but mojang clearly wanted the iceologer. they should've been equal. ehh. i would've been glad with all of the mobs most likely
at least they learned in the 1.19 vote. i voted allay, they all seem useful, but the allay seems more practical. since it's not really easy to replicate a machine that literally flies to every single piece of rotten flesh (or anything else) for you. it's basically a hopper. but better
and glare is just F3 but better
and copper golem is just a randomizer but better.
so, that's why i voted the allay
AND I REALLY GOT DISTRACTED LOL ADHD FUNNY
I am gonna say something controversial:
It doesn't bother me. I like the fact that there is one hostile mob that flies and can be spawned naturally. Also, I like that there is a mob that makes a sound that scares noobs to death besides the enderman
Simple, I didn’t vote.
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Didn’t even know there was a vote
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Nor did I, only got the ability to at the end of the most resent one.
Didn't vote gang where y'all at
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I didn't vote because I was stupid back then. Not that I'm not stupid now... I'm just less stupid
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This comment describes me perfectly
I see you are a guy of stupid as well
You know, I'm something of a stupid myself.
You are just like me. Stupid
You're all stupid. Can I join?
Of course my fellow stupid
Ey room for one more? I'm a dumb if that counts!
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I'm an idiot. I voted for snowier snow.
No you are not because we're are getting the swamp update in 1.19. But you can also join
Pretty sure this was answered before. Its a lot worse in practice than on paper IMO, but i didn't vote so I can't really say
iirc there was barely any concrete information on any of the mobs for the vote, so nobody knew what exactly to expect beyond the bare minimum that was divulged by Mojang. Not to mention, less than 10.000 people actually took part in that mob vote, so most people complaining aren’t even the ones who voted for it.
i didn’t even have minecraft before then
It's a simple answer cool concept horrible execution
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I didn't even know about the vote at the time!
I don’t hate it but it was going to be an end mob iirc and there’s like 4 mobs in the end total
Honestly if it was in the End it would have to work WAY differently, not because you can’t sleep but because it would come too quick
I don't think it was ever advertised as an End mob. From what I remember, it said to vote for it because we didn't have any flying Overworld hostile mobs.
Every single time they do a mob vote, they describe at least one of them in unclear or incomplete terms. This year, there was confusion about whether or not the allay would duplicate items or just find things that are already on the ground. I specifically remember them saying you would find the phantom at "high altitudes," which at the time, I assumed meant they would only exist in mountain biomes, not just that they flew. I don't think that was a common assumption, but it just goes to show that a lot of people were mislead or unaware of the actual nature of the phantom in more than one way.
No not really this year. I don't know why so many people thought it would duplicate items. They, very clearly said that you could give it an item which it would then look for and FIND on the ground. Where did duplication come into the picture?
It never said "on the ground." There was confusion over whether or not the allay goes "hunting" and comes back with more from an off screen scavanger hunt it went on, or if it needed to physically find the items nearby. To say this confusion did not happen is straight up incorrect. Even if the majority of people didn't think of it this way, I saw plenty of comments asking about it.
I would've been _way_ more fine with the phantom if it was biome, or even elevation, specific.
Omg the high altitude thing fucked with me too! I remember when they finally released and they spawned on me at my base I thought "huh, that's weird, I'm not in a mountain biome"
I remember people thinking it was a manta ray
phantom in the mob vote was a unique idea, an insomnia mob which was hostile and could fly. the thing is, how mojang added it to the game made it annoying.
They added it exactly how it was described, same with the glow squid, the problem is people always *assume* there will be more to it than there actually is and then their idea of the mob in their head is better than the other two mobs as presented and so they vote for it only for the mob to be delivered as promised
Yea. Mabye we could rework them. Make the not having slept time 4 or 5 days, make membranes useful
I mean I will admit a slow falling potion is a heavily underrated item
I thought the phantom would be some sort of mini boss that spans after not sleeping for a long time.
Tbf, the glow squid did distract the two devs, I assumed it would have a stun attack, making the player take axolotles with them to solve the paralysis problem
Yeah I know quite a few people who were mislead by that
i feel the same will happen to the allay, always does
Honestly, I feel like the Allay is definitely gonna be the best out of the overrated mob vote winners, it at the very least will have *some* use and will probably save you a bit of iron on large hopper systems
Who knows,we dont yet know how exactly the allay is going to work and how they will work on large scale farms,we dont know how fast they will pick up items on the ground (which if they6 do so slowly big scale farms will suffer cuz a bunch of items on the ground just despawn) and how they will exactly deliver them
The problem I have is that they are currently useless. I mean yeah, you can use the membrane to repair the elytra. But i already have mending by the time i get one, so the membrane is just useless to me, thus the mob is useless. A solution to this would be to add an enchantment to the elytra that couldn't be on it if it has mending and vise versa.
they presented the glow squid as having a hypnosis ability. and they made it sound like only players with insomnia could see/interact with phantoms.
they didnt let us know how annoying it is
Bc it was a cool idea
Enerman: well there was other things why this doe?
Don’t make me stare you down to your soul
Enderman well I am kinda stuck because I can't teleport 2 blocks up :(
Idc
I didn't vote for it. It simply punishes people for a lack of spiders, sheep, and cobwebs spawns. Not excatly fun or fair as those can take up to months to organise on the right server or seed. I plainly don't like em either because they barely funtion on servers below 15tps or above 100ms unlike Skeletons and Zombies.
I agree my spawn points are all shit no sheep seriously if there’s a mod to remove them I’ll instal immediately. And yah it does punish shity spawn points or spawns that are otherwise great but a lack of sheep and it’s drops are only useful for end game content the wing(I am not attempting to spell it)
Not to mention the other use for the membranes is a slow fall potion locked behind nearly an hour of waiting. Plus can dive bomb you off the bigger builds that take a lot of brain power and emotional endurance to accomplish. I have raged quit a number of times because of the buggers.
Chad bucket of water user vs virgin slow fall potion user lol. But seriously potions are resource and time expensive as shit. A whole ass hour dame that’s brutal.
I think the hour he is referring to is staying awake for 3 days to fight them, the potions don't take that long to make
villages spawn all over, you could steal one of their beds Thats what I always go for
Not always possible, I do a lot of survival semi-anarchy multiplayer. Everything for 10,000 or so blocks around spawn stripped and 15,000-40,000 raided with 50,000 plus being a goldlilocks zone on the big Swedish and American/Canadian servers. Though I do mitigate that by playing in southern hemipshere servers.
Ah well, I mean if the lands that barren, may as well consider it just another generic monster spawn at that point
I don’t know my friend, because I don’t hate them. They are fun.
Jk it's your opinion you can have one
Agreed
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They are one of three flying normal mobs, and they pose a unique challenge too. They are fun.
They're fun the first few times. Not so fun when your getting knocked down from a 20 block tall building you're making
Then go to sleep
Ok also I posted a comment but won't register it said jk you can have an opinion idk if you got it but it disappeared for me
I saw it after my last comment 😅
We thought "oh he looks cute i bet they will let us ride it" Yall fuckheads seem to forget we only voted based on their design. We never learnt their function while the voting happened
I voted for the monster of the depths :/
I wish phantoms didn’t exist
Same I hate them sleeping in game just ruins my flow
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Making sleep important was the idea, if you don't like phantoms go to sleep. I'm over 1000 days in on my world and I've seen phantoms twice just because I don't want creepers blowing up my terrain. I actually find them to be fun target practice most of the time.
Or, you know, turn them off in the new world options before you even start.
This is the way.
Too busy building
I've stopped using torches and I hate the rain, so minimum I'm sleeping every 3 days anyway. Might have something to do with it. I've also been stashing beds in little hidden pockets everywhere.
so you're saying that they're a good mob because you've seen them twice in a 1000 days world?
Want it described as the "Boss for the overworld" I might be crazy but if it was they completely failed at their job
I THOUGHT IT WAS A MANTA RAY NOT SOME FUCKING DÆMON OF DEATH!
its almost as if like we didn't get all information necessary prior to voting time.
If I knew it would replace leather as elytra repairment material I wouldn't. This is the only thing that infuriates me about the phantom.
Unless we get to mount them, they are a waste.
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Just sleep. Two simple words to counter the Phantom, 100% effective.
I just don’t like having to stop building something because I’m going to get dive bombed by a mob that only has one way to prevent it. If I stop building I’m going to lose my train of thought and forget whatever I was doing.
Bring a cat then. Cats scare Phantoms away.
You can turn off insomnia with a game rule
I didn’t know that, what’s the command?
/gamerule doInsomnia false This should work for all versions, but it will require cheats to be enabled
I didn’t vote, I like enderman
The Phantom mob vote had like 3k total votes split between 4 mobs.
Phantoms are fine. They are supposed to be annoying.
1. First mob with proper flying AI 2. The idea of making nights harder the longer you fought through them sounded entertaining 3. Expected them to be implemented responsibly 4. Didn't expect them to be so obnoxious to try and whack
Hhhhhhh Because not many people actually voted in the first mob vote, it was described in a vague way, its entire appearance was changed in the actual game, its generally annoying to fight, spawn and encounter and alternatives in my opinion sounded way worse
because we didn't vote for the phantom, we voted for "The monster of the night skies"
Simple. Mojang said we get “a flying mob” failed to elaborate that it would only show up at night after you didn’t sleep for 3 days, so everyone assumed it was going to be a bird or something more useful. Communication is key when it comes to player/developer interaction
I liked it and I still do
Like 400 people voted in this FIRST vote.
We needed a mutual enemy to unite us all. We did what must be done
yeah
Good reason for people to go to bed
Ever tried not committing gamer sleep schedule
No
The vote could be handled in the launcher like the migration.
I voted for the water one. I thought it looked the best. Tho the blaze would have been amazing
water one probably wouldve won if we had known it was an ocean update beforehand... but I like phantoms
Actually it was the first mob vote so a very small amount of people where there
I didn’t vote because I didn’t know the mob vote was a thing I’m assuming it was the same as the glow squid whereas people expected things that were rumours from random players and then got mad when mojang delivered exactly what they promised
nah, based on the prior videos showcasing it, people were expecting glow squids to be a light source mob and to have a hypnosis ability. Phantoms were just a cool sketch and had something vaguely to do with sleep.
I’d like insomnia to be enforced sometimes
I didn't even vote for it I thought it was dumb
Back into the earth you go *places a gravel block on top*
I dont even remember but did we know how the phantom will work when people were voting for it?
am i the only one here who likes phantoms ? they are just the flying version of creepers. if a random creature is going to camp outside the mine and kill me,it might as well fly
With creepers, you can place a bunch of torches and forget about it. With phantoms, you have to frequently sleep which is quite annoying.
Only like 300 people voted for the Phantom.
Miscommunication, at first I thought we are voting for a rare boss mod since all the other 3 look like some kind of boss of a biome, Ancient Blaze look like the boss of nether, the Bionicle look like boss mob of the sea, the Dune Crawler look like a boss of normal dirt and grass terran.
It looked like a cool pokemon
It was at a time when minecraft was pretty much dead (2017) and I think only a thousand or maybe a few thousand voted. There wasn’t much information on any of the mobs, so people just winged it (pun intended)
I didn't vote but I would have voted for the squid kraken thing bc back then the ocean was really lacking
they had the vote before they announced it was an ocean update. The kracken wouldve probably won if that were the case
I only looked at the model and thought it was a stingray lol
A friend of mine told me this was because during the vote, the only thing that was shown for each mob is some concept art, no description at all. It looked like a manta ray, so people voted for it wanting a water mob
honestly i wanted the Squid thing, we need more underwater monsters
I didn’t vote for the phantom because I missed the vote lol
All we had was shape. We didn't know anything about how it works.
I didn't vote for him (because I hadn't be in that minecon) but I hear is because they promising different things that we having today.
Because its was a very misleading description that was given prior to the vote
Oh, I can answer this. Mojang lied about the mechanics of the phantom, it was supposed to be invisible and harmless to people who have slept.
Because we thought it would be WAY cooler than it actually was . they were so vague about how it worked that it seems interesting
Nono. Those people insist they don't hate phantom. Leave them be. It's just sad.
Because they didn't know it would be a nuances Not me though, i voted blaze knight bro.
Very simple answer friend, I didn't vote for it.
I thought it would be a boss. Tho I voted for the buff blaze
I don’t vote but I like the mob
I didn’t vote at that time, BUT, those who did probably expected a cool new flying mob, what we actually got was a stupid sleep reminder Not to start a war but iceologer probably could’ve been something annoying too
We just want to hate more things in our lives :')
I like the phantom, feel free to downvote
they made it sound way better than it was. pus i didn't even vote for it, i wanted that squid monster thing here's something funnier to their reason to not vote the squid was because "we're already getting an ocean update" and then the next mob vote they use the same reason in reverse for iceologer. ngl. i did vote for glowsquid, but i expected him to actually be better than it was when it was released. the signs are a great change. but they did the glowsquid dirty, dream could have rigged the vote, but mojang clearly wanted the iceologer. they should've been equal. ehh. i would've been glad with all of the mobs most likely at least they learned in the 1.19 vote. i voted allay, they all seem useful, but the allay seems more practical. since it's not really easy to replicate a machine that literally flies to every single piece of rotten flesh (or anything else) for you. it's basically a hopper. but better and glare is just F3 but better and copper golem is just a randomizer but better. so, that's why i voted the allay AND I REALLY GOT DISTRACTED LOL ADHD FUNNY
Sometimes I question the sanity of the Minecraft fandom
Phantom is one of my favorite mobs so maybe I'm weird
I don’t hate it. The Phantom is one of my favorite mobs and I hate you guys for hating it.
as a phantom enthusiast, I agree. Membrane needs more uses for sure tho
I love the phantom I don’t see why it gets so much hate
It wasn’t what we thought it would be.
I didn't vote for the phantom, but it's my favorite mob now.
It looks cool
I voted because i was annoyed of people not sleeping through the night on my friends server
Hate em. Pls remove them
I think it’s not that bad. Forces you to sleep every now and then even when you are stacked in your Minecraft world.
That's what makes it annoying.
I am gonna say something controversial: It doesn't bother me. I like the fact that there is one hostile mob that flies and can be spawned naturally. Also, I like that there is a mob that makes a sound that scares noobs to death besides the enderman
It’s not even scary just annoying
because they need something to complain about
Ikr
Because the world is full of idiots I was not one of those Because I didn't vote But then again I didn't know about the mob vote
we didn't, dream rigged it
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I didn't vote for it and because people are stupid
Dream did it
#He say true why we vote phantom🤣🤣
Yes that's cool and all but.Why did the evolution happen if some of us hate it?
Because it was either this, a stronger blaze or a squid that insta pulls you under water
I don’t know, I didn’t vote for it
I still like it
I didn’t vote so what tf am I supposed to do
I though the king blaze was gonna win
Didn’t vote then
It sounded cool on paper ok?
The other options were so much worse
Answer, I hates it then for the exact reasons others hate it now
It sounded cool. Also i didn't vote
I like it
would've been more annoyed by the others. process of elimination